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I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 14:05

I have been consistently telling you from day one, what Isaias is telling you today. Woyane is only an accidental enemy, Tigrai is a historical nemesis. If you focus only on Woyane, you will miss the goal post.

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Re: I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 14:09

Ethiopia has numbers, Eritrea has geography, Tigrai has a frame of mind, a plan.

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Re: I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 14:22

Drop this words from your vocabulary
ምግዋሕ
ኣዋዲዱ
ቅያ
ዛጊት
and many others

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Re: I told you so

Post by kebena05 » 07 Feb 2020, 14:25

Justo brother
No point beating the dead-horse, the Weyane….it was never been our threat and will never ever be again. Now, why use Weyane as buggy man again?
We have more important issues at home than giving endless discourse. He has no reason anymore not to release those who have been in jail for quarter of century. We all agree their crime was inconceivable; although not been proven in the court; however, let them free, have their few years left on this planet enjoy the fresh air in the land that they fought tirelessly for. He also should let the constitution ratified, we have one of the best constitution on planet; but never been ratified. Let free media and opposition parties allow. No ethnic or religion based parties be allowed be the constitution. We see the fire next door and it is a wake up call for those who want to create regional and ethic parties in our country. The bright days for Eritera is ahead; but I doubt if PIA is the one to take us there. Let him retire in peace like Juilus Nyerere or Keith Kaunda...he deserved respect and peaceful retirement in his own country.

Those who expected any new thing from PIA's speech are disappointed again,....I never expected anything from him knowing he has none to offer anymore.
justo wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:05
I have been consistently telling you from day one, what Isaias is telling you today. Woyane is only an accidental enemy, Tigrai is a historical nemesis. If you focus only on Woyane, you will miss the goal post.

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Re: I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 14:27

kebena05 wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:25
Justo brother
No point beating the dead-horse, the Weyane….it was never been our threat and will never ever be again. Now, why use Weyane as buggy man again?
We have more important issues at home than giving endless discourse. He has no reason anymore not to release those who have been in jail for quarter of century. We all agree their crime was inconceivable; although not been proven in the court; however, let them free, have their few years left on this planet enjoy the fresh air in the land that they fought tirelessly for. He also should let the constitution ratified, we have one of the best constitution on planet; but never been ratified. Let free media and opposition parties allow. No ethnic or religion based parties be allowed be the constitution. We see the fire next door and it is a wake up call for those who want to create regional and ethic parties in our country. The bright days for Eritera is ahead; but I doubt if PIA is the one to take us there. Let him retire in peace like Juilus Nyerere or Keith Kaunda...he deserved respect and peaceful retirement in his own country.

Those who expected any new thing from PIA's speech are disappointed again,....I never expected anything from him knowing he has none to offer anymore.
justo wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:05
I have been consistently telling you from day one, what Isaias is telling you today. Woyane is only an accidental enemy, Tigrai is a historical nemesis. If you focus only on Woyane, you will miss the goal post.
Our number one issue is woyane, everything else is a distraction

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Re: I told you so

Post by Cigar » 07 Feb 2020, 14:38

Justo, I second your view.
We are determine to put our wellbeing of our misery immune citizens at the back burner to destroy woyane once for all.
We do not want our next generation to go through what we went through because of these evil tegarus and their leaders.

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Re: I told you so

Post by kebena05 » 07 Feb 2020, 14:46

justo wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:27
kebena05 wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:25
Justo brother
No point beating the dead-horse, the Weyane….it was never been our threat and will never ever be again. Now, why use Weyane as buggy man again?
We have more important issues at home than giving endless discourse. He has no reason anymore not to release those who have been in jail for quarter of century. We all agree their crime was inconceivable; although not been proven in the court; however, let them free, have their few years left on this planet enjoy the fresh air in the land that they fought tirelessly for. He also should let the constitution ratified, we have one of the best constitution on planet; but never been ratified. Let free media and opposition parties allow. No ethnic or religion based parties be allowed be the constitution. We see the fire next door and it is a wake up call for those who want to create regional and ethic parties in our country. The bright days for Eritera is ahead; but I doubt if PIA is the one to take us there. Let him retire in peace like Juilus Nyerere or Keith Kaunda...he deserved respect and peaceful retirement in his own country.

Those who expected any new thing from PIA's speech are disappointed again,....I never expected anything from him knowing he has none to offer anymore.
justo wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:05
I have been consistently telling you from day one, what Isaias is telling you today. Woyane is only an accidental enemy, Tigrai is a historical nemesis. If you focus only on Woyane, you will miss the goal post.
Our number one issue is woyane, everything else is a distraction
No, Weyane is as dead as it's evil leader. The vast majority of Eritreans are tired of this excuse; when will it end? My fear is, if he is not willing to change through means of peaceful transformation of power, we could end up like Somalia and he would be forced out by means of gun and assassination. It is making sense now when the so called opposition people abroad are saying PIA does not want the boarder issue, such as Badme and other land resolved. He wants that as "Buggy Man" to continue his grip on power. I have to admit, I was one of those ardent defendant of President and called anyone who oppose him as "Agames" or Weyane Agents for them to suggest that, but not anymore. Believe me, I still have deep hate for those so called the oppositions who sold their dignity for our arch enemy, the Weyane during our tough times. We will never forgive them. But, we also should not be held hostage by the government using these traitors as example when we demand organic change.

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Re: I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 14:55

kebena05 wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:46
We will never forgive them. But, we also should not be held hostage by the government using these traitors as example when we demand organic change.
It is we Eritreans who want the woyane and the traitors to be the main issue, not only the government.

Isaias' biggest mistake is thinking that woyane is bad, but that Tigrai could be good.

And the opposition's biggest mistake is thinking that it is the government and not the Eritrean people who are against woyane and the treasonous opposition, including Durue.

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Re: I told you so

Post by kebena05 » 07 Feb 2020, 15:06

Cigar bro
We could do all those you mention while we have constitution, free press and free expressions. In fact it makes us more united and willing to die for our country if the enemy comes knocking again. My point is, why can't we have the above I mention while working to destroy our arch enemies? Those demands are not mutual exclusive to each other. It is easier for our enemies to attack us when we are divided than when we are united. The world has seen what we have achieved, the unachievable, by destroying 800,000 plus Ethiopian soldiers and their communist countries supporters pre-1991. It is because we were united. Those of us who were aboad during the struggle era, also fought tooth to nail, providing financial and moral support to our freedom fighters. I recently went to "Mebel 27 Be'al Natsenat" in DC. I was sadden to see only a few hundreds people showed up although the Eritrean community in D.M.V has doubled in the last 10 years. Pre 1991 and up to year 2004, there would have been 10k plus people show up. Today, many chose to stay home.

Cigar wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:38
Justo, I second your view.
We are determine to put our wellbeing of our misery immune citizens at the back burner to destroy woyane once for all.
We do not want our next generation to go through what we went through because of these evil tegarus and their leaders.

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Re: I told you so

Post by Temt » 07 Feb 2020, 15:50

I am with Justo. It is very naive on our part to think the Tegaru are okay when Weyane has been working hand and gloves with all the Agames.

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Re: I told you so

Post by justo » 07 Feb 2020, 16:01

justo wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:09
Ethiopia has numbers, Eritrea has geography, Tigrai has a frame of mind, a plan.
Tigrai's frame of mind has to be bended and broken.
That is why I've been telling you, to use their language, that "ትግራይ ክትስኩን ዘለዋ"
Abiy and Isaias have to implement "behaviour modifying" programs on Tigrai

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Re: I told you so

Post by Cigar » 07 Feb 2020, 16:06

The tegarus are even worse than their thuggish leadership for the fact that they are not forcing woyane to be lawful and accept its ethiopianism.
So, yes so long they are cheering for woyane while are begging Eritrea to open the border and calling us brothers, I say the whole tigray population should get 100 fold of the miseries our innocent Eritreans got from woyane in the last 2 decades.
So far there is no honest tigrawai/ti.
They all want to eat their cakes and have them too.
Yes they sure are going to eat, but it is not going to be cakes, but dirt.

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Re: I told you so

Post by Sabur » 07 Feb 2020, 21:18


Kebena05:

ኮራኩር ወዲ መድህን በራድ - the errand boys are more worried about the dictator and his grip to power than Eritrea and the Eritrean people.

Very true what you just said, "We could do all those you mention while we have constitution, free press and free expressions. In fact it makes us more united and willing to die for our country if the enemy comes knocking again."

Eritreans can defend and develop their beloved country Eritrea all united anytime so long Liberty, Rule of Law, freedom of expression, democracy,... become supreme in Eritrea (instead of One Man rule).

The compulsive liar ወዲ መድህን በራድ talks about the filthy Woyane and its dangerous ideology, but it was he who first aligned with his filthy cousins Woyane (TPLF) to drive Genuine Eritreans out of Eritrea to declare himself the sole ruler in Eritrea.

He abuses the unquestionable love Eritreans have for their beloved country and he pretends to appreciate the Eritrean people for their resolve while Eritreans are being driven out of their beloved country Eritrea deliberately by HIS OWN ACTIONS.

Eritreans did not sacrifice so much for Eritrea to be a playground for this clown ሓሳድ ቡዳ .


kebena05 wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 15:06
Cigar bro
We could do all those you mention while we have constitution, free press and free expressions. In fact it makes us more united and willing to die for our country if the enemy comes knocking again. My point is, why can't we have the above I mention while working to destroy our arch enemies? Those demands are not mutual exclusive to each other. It is easier for our enemies to attack us when we are divided than when we are united. The world has seen what we have achieved, the unachievable, by destroying 800,000 plus Ethiopian soldiers and their communist countries supporters pre-1991. It is because we were united. Those of us who were aboad during the struggle era, also fought tooth to nail, providing financial and moral support to our freedom fighters. I recently went to "Mebel 27 Be'al Natsenat" in DC. I was sadden to see only a few hundreds people showed up although the Eritrean community in D.M.V has doubled in the last 10 years. Pre 1991 and up to year 2004, there would have been 10k plus people show up. Today, many chose to stay home.

Cigar wrote:
07 Feb 2020, 14:38
Justo, I second your view.
We are determine to put our wellbeing of our misery immune citizens at the back burner to destroy woyane once for all.
We do not want our next generation to go through what we went through because of these evil tegarus and their leaders.

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