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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by DefendTheTruth » 12 Feb 2022, 16:58

eden wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 08:57
Self hate my friend, self hate. It's the assimilation that is incomplete causing folks to hate their own. I think Ermias is evolving though. His tone towards his own people is not what it used to be. Tamrat can discover himself and start to love his own if he uses his time in prison to reflect and understand his inside and what his upbringing away from his folks did to him.

Aster is like zemeselo guy lurking here on this forum. She hates her own heritage deeply. The Oromos should help her, not hate her. She can be redeemed to love her own and still love all people. She can be like me. She doesn't have to be like zemeselo, deqi Arawit, Fiametaw, justo etc etc. One doesn't have to hate self to prove love for others. You don't even have to feel others are others.

What is wrong with Aster, Ermias and Tamrat is kindda what happened to my own Tigrigna speaking folks. The colonial experience has left us with self hate. We hamsen akeleguzai seraye folks are Tigre (amharic for Tigraway or Tegaru) but many of us hate Tigre . What happened to us? Colonization!

We have been running away from Tigreness for long. This phenomenon never existed before we went through colonization. DeqiArawit's self hate was not exhibited by his forefathers. They saw themselves as proud Tigre just like the folks today in axum adwa mekelle feel proud Tigre. Even those most enlightened among us like Professor Asmerom and Ambassador Sofia run away from Tigreness all their lives. Colonization is that strong and unshakable to most even after it ends. It's so strong, my folks invented another term for identity, Tigrigna, to replace Tigre.

50 years of colonization my friend. My own immediate family is not immune to this although nothing to the level of others we see here on this forum. These are irredeemable. They will hate their own till the end. Colonialism (or assimilation) does that and it's unfortunate.
Low-Landeru,

please take your time and just listen to Abebech in the following video, she is exceptionally sharp today in her analysis, I don't know if she took some thing for this.

Human evolution took over 4 Billions of years, when their thinking paradigm was developed to what it is today. Yours started just before few decades, still you dare to dictate your infant thinking pattern to the ages old one, what a world we live in?


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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by or1 » 13 Feb 2022, 05:18

eden wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 08:57
Self hate my friend, self hate. It's the assimilation that is incomplete causing folks to hate their own. I think Ermias is evolving though. His tone towards his own people is not what it used to be. Tamrat can discover himself and start to love his own if he uses his time in prison to reflect and understand his inside and what his upbringing away from his folks did to him.

Aster is like zemeselo guy lurking here on this forum. She hates her own heritage deeply. The Oromos should help her, not hate her. She can be redeemed to love her own and still love all people. She can be like me. She doesn't have to be like zemeselo, deqi Arawit, Fiametaw, justo etc etc. One doesn't have to hate self to prove love for others. You don't even have to feel others are others.

What is wrong with Aster, Ermias and Tamrat is kindda what happened to my own Tigrigna speaking folks. The colonial experience has left us with self hate. We hamsen akeleguzai seraye folks are Tigre (amharic for Tigraway or Tegaru) but many of us hate Tigre . What happened to us? Colonization!

We have been running away from Tigreness for long. This phenomenon never existed before we went through colonization. DeqiArawit's self hate was not exhibited by his forefathers. They saw themselves as proud Tigre just like the folks today in axum adwa mekelle feel proud Tigre. Even those most enlightened among us like Professor Asmerom and Ambassador Sofia run away from Tigreness all their lives. Colonization is that strong and unshakable to most even after it ends. It's so strong, my folks invented another term for identity, Tigrigna, to replace Tigre.

50 years of colonization my friend. My own immediate family is not immune to this although nothing to the level of others we see here on this forum. These are irredeemable. They will hate their own till the end. Colonialism (or assimilation) does that and it's unfortunate.
eden, interesting. self hate make sense. the one thing they fear is to be associated with oromia. the term አዲስ አበቤ was coined by these finfine oromos like ermias legesse who wrote different books on this topic of being አዲስ አበቤ. aster bedane loves to talk about አዲስ አበቤ identity the same for tamerat negera. the አዲስ አበቤ identity helps them to hide their true roots which they are running away from. self hate indeed. thanks

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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by eden » 13 Feb 2022, 11:24

Defend,

I watched the video and it's one perspective and i respect that.

Here's what I want you to watch:

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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by Abaymado » 13 Feb 2022, 12:26

The answer is very simple but this is not clear only to agames.

These people are mix of different ethnics. Probably they have Amhara blood. So what? Besides gallas are not native here, they should praise Amhara for allowing them to live peacefully. Otherwise the consequence is clear.

I know everything went in the wrong direction because of the cancer agames, they will pay the price.



by the way Kefyalew Tufa is another psycho who pretend as priest.


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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by DefendTheTruth » 13 Feb 2022, 12:46

eden,

here also one more snapshot of what your camp's infant thinking pattern can cause, so hating such a vulture is the least one should do against but for you that is self-hate.


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Re: why most finfine born oromos hate oromia? aster bedane, tamrat negera, ermias legesse ...

Post by Naga Tuma » 15 Feb 2022, 20:33

eden wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 08:57
Self hate my friend, self hate. It's the assimilation that is incomplete causing folks to hate their own.

These are irredeemable. They will hate their own till the end. Colonialism (or assimilation) does that and it's unfortunate.
Eden,

I remember when you were a one liner on this forum. I remember when you posted and deleted some of them. You didn't even give me a chance to respond to those you deleted because you got rid of them.

I considered both of them, writing one liners and deleting some of them, were conscious decisions respectful of the power of logic and mindful of your shortcomings.

I have argued for a very long time and continue to argue that the suggestion that ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ is a colossal fallacy that was introduced briefly into Ethiopia's age old history. So, it is either that you agree with my point that ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ is a colossal fallacy or that it is not a fallacy but has legitimacy. If you agree with my point, then it goes without saying that the faculties of those who harbored it at any point in the past was colonized and that those who continue to harbor it even today are terminally colonized and irredeemable.

So, which way are you going to surprise me? By agreeing with my point that ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ is a colossal fallacy or disagreeing with it and agreeing with those who say ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ has legitimacy? I don't get tired of reading or hearing wild imaginations, including from unexpected places.

In case you agree any bit with my point that ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ is a colossal fallacy, it can only get magnified when many realize that it was induced from without for a reason.

A couple of decades ago, a colleague approached me to invite me to go to a Protestant Church. I was a practicing Orthodox Christian who had stopped going to church at that time. I politely declined his invitation. He got offended asking me why I wouldn't go even when Professor A is going. Professor A is a widely respected individual. I found that suggestion even wilder and the discussion didn't go any further. If I remember correctly, my last words to my colleague was that if his interest was going to a Church, there was the age old Ethiopian Orthodox Church right there, which he could mind in a preferred language.

That invitation is one of three distinct ones about the same topic, going to the Church. All the time, I found our differences on the topic irreconcilable.

Years later, I heard what a Borana man reportedly said. I am sure many people get offended by what the man had to say but I honestly think that people need to resign their emotions and try to understand why the man said what he had to say after observing behaviors that are qualitatively different from what he knows. He reportedly said: ወለግ ዮ ኦሮሞ ተኤ ኑት ጋላ ታኔ።

If you agree with the point that ቃልቻ colonized ቃሉ is a colossal fallacy, and this fallacy was induced from without and accepted from within, I do not think that you fail to understand why people make such observations. It boils down to a clash of the organic with the induction. The organic endures. The induction crumbles.

Just under this thread, go back and read what makes you apologize to the Eritreans and refer to the Ethiopians irredeemable when you have lodged the same level of insults against both? What does that make you? A self-disrespectful Ethiopian? Is it possible that it explains your unreal perception of an organic difference between both the Eritreans and Ethiopians at whom you threw your insult equally?

That our country has gone through tribulations in the last half century or so doesn't mean that our age old organic would wilt for good because some among a crop of students that one of Ethiopia's leaders saw as technocrats that would transform a religious society into a scientific one can write sentences that say so. I am sure you have benefited more then I from the efforts of the credible visionary despite his shortcomings to transform a religious society into a scientific one.

What is more, it doesn't appear to make you sad that you don't have as many fruits as him in terms of having people who can write. This forum is a good sample assuming that most who write here are his fruits than they are yours and all have their biological clocks even if we wish them long lives.

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