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FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Horus » 11 Sep 2024, 14:42

እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም! የዛሬ 9 ወር ያልኩትን ልድገም! ኢትዮጵያ ያፍሪካ ቀንድ ንጉስ ነች! ኢትዮጵያ የሁለቱ ታላቅ ውሃዎች ባለቤት ነች ፤ የአባይ ወንዝ እና የቀይ ባሕር ባለቤት! በቃ! ሃቁ ይህ ነው! የሚሆነውም ይህ ነው ! ኢትዮጵያ ለዘላለም ትኑር :!: :!: :!:


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Somaliman » 11 Sep 2024, 16:07

I've told you many times that it's not about signature, turning the unlawful MoU into an agreement, or recognising this mindless breakaway region as a country but materialising it - entering this region and owning the purported coastal land and start building it.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 11 Sep 2024, 16:30

Somaliman, I do not believe Ethiopia will proceed with such a course of action; it seems more likely a strategy of intimidation against the Somali government. However, let us consider the possibility that they might move forward. How, then, could we effectively prevent it and stop them since the mindless enclave is willing to open the doors ? While it is clear that they cannot claim ownership over what is undeniably Somali sovereign territory, how can we practically stop them? They may attempt to occupy it temporarily, but I am confident that the people will inevitably rise up in resistance. They can never own it even if they go and invade the Land it will be just be viewed as back in 2007.


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Somaliman » 11 Sep 2024, 16:57

Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 16:30
Somaliman, I do not believe Ethiopia will proceed with such a course of action; it seems more likely a strategy of intimidation against the Somali government. However, let us consider the possibility that they might move forward. How, then, could we effectively prevent it and stop them since the mindless enclave is willing to open the doors ? While it is clear that they cannot claim ownership over what is undeniably Somali sovereign territory, how can we practically stop them? They may attempt to occupy it temporarily, but I am confident that the people will inevitably rise up in resistance. They can never own it even if they go and invade the Land it will be just be viewed as back in 2007.


Dr Zackovich


Apart from, as you've said it, ordinary Somalis rising up and organising themselves to protect their ancestral lands, according to the National Committee for the Defence of Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity, the Somali government has carefully and strategically put in place its plans against any move from Ethiopia. I've heard this from Cabdiraxmaan Yuusuf Caynte who's a member of this committee. Faysal Rooble too is a member of this.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 11 Sep 2024, 18:58

I do trust FaIsal rooble he is actually one of the few Somalis who is well versed on Ethiopian issues.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Somaliman » 11 Sep 2024, 19:13

Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 18:58
I do trust FaIsal rooble he is actually one of the few Somalis who is well versed on Ethiopian issues.

Dr Zackovich


Faysal wuxuu ka mid yahay inta yar ee fara ku tiriska ah ee ann dhageysto.

Waa ninka kaliya ee ka hadla Amxaareynta uu JigJiga ka wado Cagjar. Amxaaro badan ayaa la sheegay inay wali ku qulqulayaan Jigjiga.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by kebena05 » 11 Sep 2024, 19:26

ፈሳም ጉራጌ
ወገኖችህ ጉራጌዎችም በማንነታቸው ምክንያት በየቀኑ በገጀራ እየተቀሉ ያልቃሉ አንተ እንክፍ የወገኑ ሞትና ስቃይ የማየው ሽማግሌ ተረት ተረት ላም አለች በሰማይ ትተርታለህ።

የሻዕቢያ የቀድሞ ሙርከኞች ጄነራሎችን ተማምነህ የኤርትራን ወይም የሶማሊያን መሬት እደፍራለሁ ካልክ ግን የዛች መከረኛዋ አገርህን አይቀሬ ሞት ማጣደፍ ብቻ ነው የሚሆነው።


Horus wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 14:42

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Dark Energy » 11 Sep 2024, 22:48

Old Guragie zHorsee,

You are too stupid to understand but I will try to explain it. Abbiy is just taking orders from the Emirates. Abbiy is just a condom. This confrontation is between Egypt and Abbiy’s boyfriend, the Emirati guy. Both the Saudi’s and the Turkish are really angry on the Emirati dude. If the fire cracker breaks between Egypt and Ethiopia, the Emirati dude will hide for the Saudis and the Turkish forces will join Egypt too. Ethiopia will serve at the center of the fire crackerif indeed war breaks. kiosks in Ethiopia will surely be a thing of the past. :oops: :lol:

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Horus » 12 Sep 2024, 01:19

Zack,
Slowly and lately you have began asking intelligent questions. Back in January I have said that Somaliland independence was totally separate from the MOU. If tomorrow, the MOU were to fail, Ethiopia could still recognize SLR, period. Or any other country can recognize SLR and the next day the legally sovereign SLR can sign the MOU. The essence of the issue is not Ethiopia, it is the independence of Somaliland.

Hassan Sheik so stupid he has no solution for Somaliland independence demand but he beats around the bush trying to start a fight with Ethiopia, get Egypt into this muddle. The somali-Egypt military alliance has accelerated the MOU by tenfold. Right now the global sympathy is for Somaliland, not Somalia. Not a single non-Arab country has said a single word in favor of Somalia. Ditto.

So, the Mou is a done deal. Either the current MOU will be signed or another country will recognize SLR and then Free Somaliland will sign it with us because the Ethio-Somaliland agreement is about all kinds of things - ports, trade, electricity, drinking water, a more general economic integration. Somaliland has a deep and far sighted vision of riding with Ethiopian power house to build a modern day Dubai on their coast. And, we will do what we can to help them achieve it because the return of Ethiopia to Red Sea is not something we forget. Somaliland will forever be a dear friend of Ethiopia and we will return her favor!!!

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 12 Sep 2024, 05:00

Horus wrote:
12 Sep 2024, 01:19
Zack,
Slowly and lately you have began asking intelligent questions. Back in January I have said that Somaliland independence was totally separate from the MOU. If tomorrow, the MOU were to fail, Ethiopia could still recognize SLR, period. Or any other country can recognize SLR and the next day the legally sovereign SLR can sign the MOU. The essence of the issue is not Ethiopia, it is the independence of Somaliland.

Hassan Sheik so stupid he has no solution for Somaliland independence demand but he beats around the bush trying to start a fight with Ethiopia, get Egypt into this muddle. The somali-Egypt military alliance has accelerated the MOU by tenfold. Right now the global sympathy is for Somaliland, not Somalia. Not a single non-Arab country has said a single word in favor of Somalia. Ditto.

So, the Mou is a done deal. Either the current MOU will be signed or another country will recognize SLR and then Free Somaliland will sign it with us because the Ethio-Somaliland agreement is about all kinds of things - ports, trade, electricity, drinking water, a more general economic integration. Somaliland has a deep and far sighted vision of riding with Ethiopian power house to build a modern day Dubai on their coast. And, we will do what we can to help them achieve it because the return of Ethiopia to Red Sea is not something we forget. Somaliland will forever be a dear friend of Ethiopia and we will return her favor!!!

I don’t think it’s gonne fly. I don’t think the mou is even close to finalising . I think Ethiopia is just using it as a sort of stick against the Somali government . That is the whole purpose of the mou. I have looked every where not a single Ethiopia source say the mou will be implemented apart from ur Indian bff. Not a credible source indeed. I can assure you there is no point for Somaliland to sign an an mou with Ethiopia if it was already recognised. Why would they lease a territory a sovereign part of their land for mere shares in some Ethiopia aircraft company . That couldn’t even keep their name on the website after being pressured . They are desperate in Somaliland for recognition, the one thing you can’t give them . So I don’t think your close to signing any thing . Somalia has every right to sign a defense deal with Egypt it’s free to do so just because you have issues with Egypt doesn’t mean we have issues with Egypt . And there is no indication that the world is opposed to Somali Interest just because we signed a deal with Egypt


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 12 Sep 2024, 05:04

Somaliman wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 19:13
Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 18:58
I do trust FaIsal rooble he is actually one of the few Somalis who is well versed on Ethiopian issues.

Dr Zackovich


Faysal wuxuu ka mid yahay inta yar ee fara ku tiriska ah ee ann dhageysto.

Waa ninka kaliya ee ka hadla Amxaareynta uu JigJiga ka wado Cagjar. Amxaaro badan ayaa la sheegay inay wali ku qulqulayaan Jigjiga.
Dhibta weyn waxa weye Mustafe cagjar oo nin wax bartay ah ayaa maskaxda Waxa ka haysta itoobiyaan. Waan dhegestey videogi Aad iso dirtay. Qofku hadi anu isku kalsoonyayn xaga maskaxda ma xorooobi karo


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Selam/ » 12 Sep 2024, 07:11

ቃላት መፍለጥ የማይመቸው፣ ረብዕና አርብ ጥሬ ሥጋ የሚጨረግደው፣ ጥንብ አንሳው የግብፁ አሮጌ ጩልሌ፥

- ዲሞክራቶች ሁለቱንም ቻምበር ይቆጣጠራሉ
- ትራምፕ ኢምፒች ይደረጋል
- ኢዜማ ሜጆሪቲ ያሸንፋል
- ፕሬዘዳንቷ በሊሞዚን እንጂ በአውቶብስ አልተጓዘችም
- ዓብዮት የአፍሪካ አታቱርክ ነው
- ዓብዮት የጉራጌ ህዝብ ጠላት ነው
- ዓብዮት የማያልቅ ጦርነት እንዲኖር ይፈልጋል
- ዓብዮት ከትግሬ ዲቃላ ወልዷል
- ዓብዮት ሺመልስን ያባርረዋል
- ኦሮሞዎች በሙሉ ዘረኞችና አረመኔዎች ናቸው
- ትግሬዎች መጤዎችና፣ የኢትዮጵያ ጠላቶች ናቸው
- ፋኖ ደብረ ብርሃንን ተቆጣጠረ
- ፋኖ ብቸኛው የኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ይሆናል
- ጉራጌ ዞን አይደለም፣ ጉራጌ ክልል ነው
- ጉራጌ ብልፅግና ላይ ትዕግስቱ አልቋል
- የጉራጌ ክልል ያ ግማታምም ቂንጥርሽ ውስጥ ነው ያለው
- ጉራጌዎች በምግብና በቤት አሠራር እንዲሁም በፈጠራ አንደኞች ነን
- MOU ለአድዋ በዓል ይፈረማል፤ ዓብዮት ሶማሊላንድን እውቅና ይሰጣል
- እንግሊዝ ለሶማሊላንድ እውቅና ልትሰጥ ነው
- ራሺያ ለሶማሊላንድ እውቅና ልትሰጥ ነው
- ለግብፅ Kemit እንደ እኔ እንደ ሆረስ የሚቀርብ የለም
- እኔ ሆረስ መንፈስ ነኝ
- እኔ ሆረስ ጭልፊት ነኝ
- ከታላቁ ፐርፐዝ ብላክ አክስዮን ሳልገዛ አመለጠኝ
- አንተ የስሙኒ ልጅ፣ የሸሌ ልጅ፣ እናትህ …
Horus wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 14:42
እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም! የዛሬ 9 ወር ያልኩትን ልድገም! ኢትዮጵያ ያፍሪካ ቀንድ ንጉስ ነች! ኢትዮጵያ የሁለቱ ታላቅ ውሃዎች ባለቤት ነች ፤ የአባይ ወንዝ እና የቀይ ባሕር ባለቤት! በቃ! ሃቁ ይህ ነው! የሚሆነውም ይህ ነው ! ኢትዮጵያ ለዘላለም ትኑር :!: :!: :!:


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Jikaar » 12 Sep 2024, 09:09

Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 16:30
Somaliman, I do not believe Ethiopia will proceed with such a course of action; it seems more likely a strategy of intimidation against the Somali government. However, let us consider the possibility that they might move forward. How, then, could we effectively prevent it and stop them since the mindless enclave is willing to open the doors ? While it is clear that they cannot claim ownership over what is undeniably Somali sovereign territory, how can we practically stop them? They may attempt to occupy it temporarily, but I am confident that the people will inevitably rise up in resistance. They can never own it even if they go and invade the Land it will be just be viewed as back in 2007.


Dr Zackovich

It's very simple , you accept Somaliland independence, and then we join our forces to turn against Ethiopia.

Or Ethiopia will accept Somaliland and we side with them against your Djib-eritrea and Somalia alliance.

We are not playing politics here, we are very seriously looking for some trouble. To end the status quo once for all. And we have nothing to loose here.

Either you give me what I want , or Ethiopia will. You have no choice here. A war is inevitable at the end of the day.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Dark Energy » 12 Sep 2024, 10:17

If Ethiopia violates Somalia’s sovereignty, Egypt will violate Ethiopian sovereignty. Actually, that is a great opportunity for Egypt to recover the free water it lost few years ago. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, no midget African [ deleted ] is going to control the RedSea basin. The super powers live there. Ethiopia under Abbiy is just been used as a condom to the Emirati guy. That is all. I bet you the Egyptians and the Emirati could be on the same page. Bomb the damn dam. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 12 Sep 2024, 10:35

Jikaar wrote:
12 Sep 2024, 09:09
Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 16:30
Somaliman, I do not believe Ethiopia will proceed with such a course of action; it seems more likely a strategy of intimidation against the Somali government. However, let us consider the possibility that they might move forward. How, then, could we effectively prevent it and stop them since the mindless enclave is willing to open the doors ? While it is clear that they cannot claim ownership over what is undeniably Somali sovereign territory, how can we practically stop them? They may attempt to occupy it temporarily, but I am confident that the people will inevitably rise up in resistance. They can never own it even if they go and invade the Land it will be just be viewed as back in 2007.


Dr Zackovich

It's very simple , you accept Somaliland independence, and then we join our forces to turn against Ethiopia.

Or Ethiopia will accept Somaliland and we side with them against your Djib-eritrea and Somalia alliance.

We are not playing politics here, we are very seriously looking for some trouble. To end the status quo once for all. And we have nothing to loose here.

Either you give me what I want , or Ethiopia will. You have no choice here. A war is inevitable at the end of the day.


We are not gonne let you divide our country Somaliland cannot have and will not have independence


The Ethiopians will refrain from proceeding with this course of action of implementing the MOU , they are fully aware of the grave consequences it would entail.


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Jikaar » 12 Sep 2024, 12:11

Zack wrote:
12 Sep 2024, 10:35
Jikaar wrote:
12 Sep 2024, 09:09
Zack wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 16:30
Somaliman, I do not believe Ethiopia will proceed with such a course of action; it seems more likely a strategy of intimidation against the Somali government. However, let us consider the possibility that they might move forward. How, then, could we effectively prevent it and stop them since the mindless enclave is willing to open the doors ? While it is clear that they cannot claim ownership over what is undeniably Somali sovereign territory, how can we practically stop them? They may attempt to occupy it temporarily, but I am confident that the people will inevitably rise up in resistance. They can never own it even if they go and invade the Land it will be just be viewed as back in 2007.


Dr Zackovich

It's very simple , you accept Somaliland independence, and then we join our forces to turn against Ethiopia.

Or Ethiopia will accept Somaliland and we side with them against your Djib-eritrea and Somalia alliance.

We are not playing politics here, we are very seriously looking for some trouble. To end the status quo once for all. And we have nothing to loose here.

Either you give me what I want , or Ethiopia will. You have no choice here. A war is inevitable at the end of the day.


We are not gonne let you divide our country Somaliland cannot have and will not have independence


The Ethiopians will refrain from proceeding with this course of action of implementing the MOU , they are fully aware of the grave consequences it would entail.


Dr Zackovich
We don't care whether Ethiopia refrains or you refrain. One of you is going home empty handed for sure. Let the war begin. For us this is an opportunity to make the Somaliland case a global problem.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Zack » 12 Sep 2024, 12:18

or perhaps you will remain isolated and unrecognised for the foreseeable future. A war in the region is inconceivable, as the prevailing powers that be will not allow such a development in the region. One thing is for sure they do not wish to break up Somalia and they wont allow Ethiopia to do it that is why Ethiopia is just using the MOU to get a favourable deal from Somalia. Jikaar you are being left behind , woow how the gallas have tricked you.


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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Jikaar » 12 Sep 2024, 12:21

Without tensions Somaliland case won't be addressed properly. We thank the Egyptianns, Ethiopians, turks, Chinese, the Eritreans. The imaratis , The Somalians, the terrorists , and every one involved in this cold war. I hope they keep the party going. The stakes are high ,and I don't see any of us retreating fron this boiling point.

No amount of diplomacy is solving this. One have to pull the trigger.

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Re: FINAL HOURS OF MOU SIGNATURE!

Post by Dama » 12 Sep 2024, 13:05

Selam/ wrote:
12 Sep 2024, 07:11
ቃላት መፍለጥ የማይመቸው፣ ረብዕና አርብ ጥሬ ሥጋ የሚጨረግደው፣ ጥንብ አንሳው የግብፁ አሮጌ ጩልሌ፥

- ዲሞክራቶች ሁለቱንም ቻምበር ይቆጣጠራሉ
- ትራምፕ ኢምፒች ይደረጋል
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Horus wrote:
11 Sep 2024, 14:42
እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም! የዛሬ 9 ወር ያልኩትን ልድገም! ኢትዮጵያ ያፍሪካ ቀንድ ንጉስ ነች! ኢትዮጵያ የሁለቱ ታላቅ ውሃዎች ባለቤት ነች ፤ የአባይ ወንዝ እና የቀይ ባሕር ባለቤት! በቃ! ሃቁ ይህ ነው! የሚሆነውም ይህ ነው ! ኢትዮጵያ ለዘላለም ትኑር :!: :!: :!:

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