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Dear Ethiopians we are facing new enemies (turkey ) who are in bed with Egypt and Somalia. Clearly Somalia , Eritrea and djibouti have all decided to work with the enemies of our progress. It's more likely Turkiye Will occupy zaylac and lughaya coast with the collaboration of djibouti. The gadabursi and issa clans in that region are already working against both Ethiopia and somaliland. The only hope for the future of Ethiopia is to recognise somaliland before it's too late . Then we can counter the Turkish through the UAE and others. Turkey won't get into our Isaaq territorial waters. Together we can resist but if you do not show some courage , you are the only loosers here.
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Recognising somaliland Will enable us to receive advanced weapons from thirds parties through you. Our military hardware is outdated. It's the remains we have taken from the siad barre forces when we defeated them in 1991. The only advantage we have is the public support.
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Shut up. Why would Ethiopia go to war with Somalia and Turkey over Somali sea?
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Why would they accept to be sabotaged by all it's neighbours. Despite being the only country in the horn that is projected to be one of the super powers of the black continent. Ethiopia should openly support somaliland without hesitation. And secure a reliable maritime access through somaliland. It should gradually decrease it's dependence on djibouti and divert it's shipments to berbera.
It should pull out it's troops in Somalia. Why die for a country you have no interest. When they can put that energy to build the somaliland military capacity. It's clear as the sun that Ethiopia best interests lies with somaliland. The rest of it's neighbours are sleeping with the enemies including north Sudan. Kenya is a progressive nation but they too have no interests to see Ethiopia outperforming their economy. They are already jealous of Tanzania.
Ethiopia should have some courage to act and behave as the giant of Africa. If we are not scared to face turkey and China. Why should they be afraid of any one. There may never be a war. But it's crucial for Ethiopia to safeguard it's own long term interests.
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Abiy will not go to war with Somalia and Turkey over Somali sea. The bullshiiit is over.Jikaar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 11:48Why would they accept to be sabotaged by all it's neighbours. Despite being the only country in the horn that is projected to be one of the super powers of the black continent. Ethiopia should openly support somaliland without hesitation. And secure a reliable maritime access through somaliland. It should gradually decrease it's dependence on djibouti and divert it's shipments to berbera.
It should pull out it's troops in Somalia. Why die for a country you have no interest. When they can put that energy to build the somaliland military capacity. It's clear as the sun that Ethiopia best interests lies with somaliland. The rest of it's neighbours are sleeping with the enemies including north Sudan. Kenya is a progressive nation but they too have no interests to see Ethiopia outperforming their economy. They are already jealous of Tanzania.
Ethiopia should have some courage to act and behave as the giant of Africa. If we are not scared to face turkey and China. Why should they be afraid of any one. There may never be a war. But it's crucial for Ethiopia to safeguard it's own long term interests.
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This will change nothing. Freaking scared Somalia run like a mouse missed her hole in the face of a big cat to Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, U.S., even to tiny Eritrea and Djibouti, but none of these will change the game. This is just a show of desperation and failure. Somaliland is already free - there is nothing Turkey can do.
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Gurage donkey. You worry about your monkey people. Somalia is in good hands.Abere wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 12:16This will change nothing. Freaking scared Somalia run like a mouse missed her hole in the face of a big cat to Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, U.S., even to tiny Eritrea and Djibouti, but none of these will change the game. This is just a show of desperation and failure. Somaliland is already free - there is nothing Turkey can do.
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It works for Somali Landers. And it may be a good deal for Turkey for temporary exploitation and for having a foothold in the Horn of Africa.
Just watch as the Somalian insurgency will start very soon.
A very stupid move by Somalia. That is what you get when you are advised by Eritreans.
Turkey will work with Ethiopia and Somali Landers for mutual benefits. Somalia as a country will not exist in about 10 years.
Just watch as the Somalian insurgency will start very soon.
A very stupid move by Somalia. That is what you get when you are advised by Eritreans.
Turkey will work with Ethiopia and Somali Landers for mutual benefits. Somalia as a country will not exist in about 10 years.
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Isn’t this “tiny Eritrea” beat a sh@t out your beloved Derg mercilessly, with its huge military power and none stop help from its handlers, the Russians, the Cuba, South Yemen, Libya, E. German, N. Korea others. This “tiny Eritrea” chased your beloved leaser to Zimbabwe and the rest of his military officers and rank and file end up til this day as street beggars.Abere wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 12:16This will change nothing. Freaking scared Somalia run like a mouse missed her hole in the face of a big cat to Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, U.S., even to tiny Eritrea and Djibouti, but none of these will change the game. This is just a show of desperation and failure. Somaliland is already free - there is nothing Turkey can do.
Don’t brag about “big” country, this “big” country is nothing in front of the “tiny” one. Your PP is even much weaker than the Derg, thus, so you think you have a better chance this time winning against the “timy”? Come and try it. Of course if the war stars, you still be hiding behind your computer somewhere in the west and yell በለው so the poor kid would die for you.
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Stop defending their assss. How come we Somalilanders never asked you to protect us , even though we are very small nation nextRight wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 13:22It works for Somali Landers. And it may be a good deal for Turkey for temporary exploitation and for having a foothold in the Horn of Africa.
Just watch as the Somalian insurgency will start very soon.
A very stupid move by Somalia. That is what you get when you are advised by Eritreans.
Turkey will work with Ethiopia and Somali Landers for mutual benefits. Somalia as a country will not exist in about 10 years.
to your big nation. about 3.5 million people. But these Somalians are using you as a cannon fodders against alshabaab. While their youth are on Tiktok .
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Teens chased you out of Lascanood. Awdal region wants you out. There is more Gurage than you. There is division within your Isaac clan. Not even Abiy will recognize a clan.Jikaar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 14:46Stop defending their assss. How come we Somalilanders never asked you to protect us , even though we are very small nation nextRight wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 13:22It works for Somali Landers. And it may be a good deal for Turkey for temporary exploitation and for having a foothold in the Horn of Africa.
Just watch as the Somalian insurgency will start very soon.
A very stupid move by Somalia. That is what you get when you are advised by Eritreans.
Turkey will work with Ethiopia and Somali Landers for mutual benefits. Somalia as a country will not exist in about 10 years.
to your big nation. about 3.5 million people. But these Somalians are using you as a cannon fodders against alshabaab. While their youth are on Tiktok .
So stop begging Abiy. Somalia issues is none of his business. Mogadishu is in charge.
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Nothing is far from the truth. Eritrea /Shabia was in fact feasted on others kill, not really a fighter/a hunter. Shabia is an opportunistic one. Shabia alone could not even have seen Asmara in 100 years, if Derg was not fighting with TPLF, OLF, Somalia, EPP, etc. Derg was fighting at least 3 more rebels armed to teeth including Shabia. You guys play loud empty brag as a tactic to inflate yourself and look like hero. If your capacity, size and stature were comparable where were you at when your flee like a roach under light during the Badme war
You guys only pop up when Ethiopia fights multiple wars with manyfold enemy, other than that you are tiny and nothing in the face of Ethiopia army under normal circumstances. It is like a cat observing her image in a mirror thinking it is a lion.
euroland wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 13:40
Isn’t this “tiny Eritrea” beat a sh@t out your beloved Derg mercilessly, with its huge military power and none stop help from its handlers, the Russians, the Cuba, South Yemen, Libya, E. German, N. Korea others. This “tiny Eritrea” chased your beloved leaser to Zimbabwe and the rest of his military officers and rank and file end up til this day as street beggars.
Don’t brag about “big” country, this “big” country is nothing in front of the “tiny” one. Your PP is even much weaker than the Derg, thus, so you think you have a better chance this time winning against the “timy”? Come and try it. Of course if the war stars, you still be hiding behind your computer somewhere in the west and yell በለው so the poor kid would die for you.
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That's not true an entire daarod clan mobilised their population against our 5 thousand military units in tukaraq. That's 200 KMs deep into their territory . We stood our grounds for 8 months without air support. Isaaq have balls of steel. We voluntarily retreated because it costed us 1 million dollar per battle .Wordpad wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 15:06Teens chased you out of Lascanood. Awdal region wants you out. There is more Gurage than you. There is division within your Isaac clan. Not even Abiy will recognize a clan.Jikaar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 14:46Stop defending their assss. How come we Somalilanders never asked you to protect us , even though we are very small nation nextRight wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 13:22It works for Somali Landers. And it may be a good deal for Turkey for temporary exploitation and for having a foothold in the Horn of Africa.
Just watch as the Somalian insurgency will start very soon.
A very stupid move by Somalia. That is what you get when you are advised by Eritreans.
Turkey will work with Ethiopia and Somali Landers for mutual benefits. Somalia as a country will not exist in about 10 years.
to your big nation. about 3.5 million people. But these Somalians are using you as a cannon fodders against alshabaab. While their youth are on Tiktok .
So stop begging Abiy. Somalia issues is none of his business. Mogadishu is in charge.
Your folks will surrender to us as soon as we upgrade our military hardware. If we are weak you wouldn't call the Turks and Egypt to defend your territorial integrity. If we are weak we wouldn't offend the Chinese . We are not begging Abiy. We see Ethiopia as our natural allies. They actually need us hundred times more than we need them.
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We can simply join those who are trying block Ethiopia from prosperity , we have nothing to loose to do so . But we don't want be like the stupid Eritreans. We see Ethiopia as the china of Africa. If we help them today our future is bright. We are economically too ambitious.
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Of all the countries, Turkey as a protectorate or a colonizer is not going to end well for Somalia. An African country couldn’t convince the big powers to help for a resolution with internal problems went all the way to Turkey asking to be colonized. It is for reason we advised our Somalian brothers to stay away from Eritrea.Stop defending their assss. How come we Somalilanders never asked you to protect us , even though we are very small nation next
to your big nation. about 3.5 million people. But these Somalians are using you as a cannon fodders against alshabaab. While their youth are on Tiktok .
This may look bad for Ethiopia. Not at all. In about 10 years, Ethiopia, Somali Land and Turkey will work out a good economical relationship. No matter how you slice it for this mini states who cannot grasp their role and position in HOA they are irrelevant without Ethiopia.
Stupidity.
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If you are not bold , turkey won't work with us. Erdogan is an Islamist trying to score some old goals against you. He Will definitely dock his ships in zaylac . But he can't dare to come close to berbera. We are lucky because we are both allied to UAE who are protecting their investments.Right wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:08Of all the countries, Turkey as a protectorate or a colonizer is not going to end well for Somalia. An African country couldn’t convince the big powers to help for a resolution with internal problems went all the way to Turkey asking to be colonized. It is for reason we advised our Somalian brothers to stay away from Eritrea.Stop defending their assss. How come we Somalilanders never asked you to protect us , even though we are very small nation next
to your big nation. about 3.5 million people. But these Somalians are using you as a cannon fodders against alshabaab. While their youth are on Tiktok .
This may look bad for Ethiopia. Not at all. In about 10 years, Ethiopia, Somali Land and Turkey will work out a good economical relationship. No matter how you slice it for this mini states who cannot grasp their role and position in HOA they are irrelevant without Ethiopia.
Stupidity.
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Jikaar,
This was all expected. What we are witnessing is regional and world powers scrambling to have a piece of the action. This game is like a billiard table, you move one piece, then all the others move.
Turkish Ottoman Empire is back in full force. Believe me UAE, USA, Russia, etc will not sit idle. There will be a lot of dynamics.
I agree with you that Ethiopia and SLR move fast create realities on the ground. Somalilanders and Ethiopians live on the ground. They will eventually determine the final outcomes. My guess is that Adwal folks want to to be part of the game in terms of commercializing Zeila.
It is all a game of economics and some power. Very soon Turkey will face the complex issues of Somalian politics and the Horn of Africa.
It is true that right now Ethiopia doesn't have a strong nationally popular regime. That is why this deal has been delayed. Oromos are not in good terms with their own and Ethiopian people. That said, Turkey's ,Egyptian and even US obstructions can only slow down the process.
No body can stop SLR from deciding its destiny. If Ethiopia is bold enough, it will recognize SLR soon and put a stop to the madness. Or, another country will recognize SLR and then we will see what happens to the MoU.
As said weeks ago, the MoU has put the SLR on the world map and put its nationhood process on a fast lane. All of these dramatics are part of that fast motion.
This was what it looked in 16th century Ottoman empire. We are still here. We are still free.Nothing will change.
This was all expected. What we are witnessing is regional and world powers scrambling to have a piece of the action. This game is like a billiard table, you move one piece, then all the others move.
Turkish Ottoman Empire is back in full force. Believe me UAE, USA, Russia, etc will not sit idle. There will be a lot of dynamics.
I agree with you that Ethiopia and SLR move fast create realities on the ground. Somalilanders and Ethiopians live on the ground. They will eventually determine the final outcomes. My guess is that Adwal folks want to to be part of the game in terms of commercializing Zeila.
It is all a game of economics and some power. Very soon Turkey will face the complex issues of Somalian politics and the Horn of Africa.
It is true that right now Ethiopia doesn't have a strong nationally popular regime. That is why this deal has been delayed. Oromos are not in good terms with their own and Ethiopian people. That said, Turkey's ,Egyptian and even US obstructions can only slow down the process.
No body can stop SLR from deciding its destiny. If Ethiopia is bold enough, it will recognize SLR soon and put a stop to the madness. Or, another country will recognize SLR and then we will see what happens to the MoU.
As said weeks ago, the MoU has put the SLR on the world map and put its nationhood process on a fast lane. All of these dramatics are part of that fast motion.
This was what it looked in 16th century Ottoman empire. We are still here. We are still free.Nothing will change.
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Horus/Abere,
If you had a shred of intelligence, you would have asked this kid, calling himself jikaar, about what's going on in the open-air prison, known in Ethiopia as the fifth kilil, where he's from. He's an Issak but from Ethiopia and, from his own gibberish, he hates Ethiopians, as Issaks are nothing in the fifth kilil, and thus is searching for whom to wag his ar.se. He knows perfectly well that I'm right.
If you had a shred of intelligence, you would have asked this kid, calling himself jikaar, about what's going on in the open-air prison, known in Ethiopia as the fifth kilil, where he's from. He's an Issak but from Ethiopia and, from his own gibberish, he hates Ethiopians, as Issaks are nothing in the fifth kilil, and thus is searching for whom to wag his ar.se. He knows perfectly well that I'm right.
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Mr Eritrean,Somaliman wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:56Horus/Abere,
If you had a shred of intelligence, you would have asked this kid, calling himself jikaar, about what's going on in the open-air prison, known in Ethiopia as the fifth kilil, where he's from. He's an Issak but from Ethiopia and, from his own gibberish, he hates Ethiopians, as Issaks are nothing in the fifth kilil, and thus is searching for whom to wag his ar.se. He knows perfectly well that I'm right.
what are saying? what is your point? It doesn't matter, if he is from SLR or not. I am not a SLRian but I support the issue based principle and my national interest, so can Jikaar. You are Eritrean and diehard supporter of Sheik Hassan. Why?