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[Dark Energy]

On one condition. Provided that it admits to lack sovereignty rights in its lease agreement with the Abbiy government courtesy of the main beneficiary of the deal named the sheik of the Emirates.
Links will be provided if and when the deal is accepted by Somali Land. If you can’t win ‘em, join them is the very thing to do.

[Dark Energy]

BTW,
The Emirates promised to finance the deal. The Arab world are pondering how to control the run away crazy sheik from the Emirates.

[Zack]

If Somalia decides to recognise Somaliland on a condition that it shouldnt enter deal with Abiye. Then i am sure Somaliland would take it. Somalia and Somaliland have been hold talkings for the past 12 years and they havent moved an inch forward to either separate or to unite.

But i doubt it really that people of Somalia would accept Somaliland to be independent its more contentious then Eritrea and Ethiopia dispute. I believe nobody Somaliland wants to unite with Somalia. and Nobody in Somalia wishes to let Somaliland go. You should google the Somaliland and Somalia talks it will give u some insight indeed. And u will see the nature of the conflict and controversy.

Thats why u have a dead lock nobdoy can break. Its not like Eritrea and Ethiopia where the tigrayans inside Ethiopia had no issues with Eritrea separating. With Somalia and Somaliland it is a different case.

if hassan sheikh recognises Somaliland independence he would be welcomed in Hargeisa how ever he cant return to Mogadishu his people will stone him to death for treachery .


Dr Zackovich

[Abere]

What is the advantage Somalia then got in return? Nothing, but surely one thing. Somalia will live in peace stopping salivating on occupying Somaliland - realizing an impossible mission is a success. Great news for Somaliland and in fact for Ethiopia as well.

But, Ethiopia is unstoppable. I can tell this for sure. Trying so for the anti-Ethiopians is like embracing a loose explosive bomb close to ones chest.

[Dark Energy]

Zack,

That perhaps looks like from politicians fake viewpoints.. The people of Somalia are reasonable. The people of Somali Land are reasonable as well. Borders are artificial, man made concepts. Look at England, Australia, Canada and Great Britain relationships. The Somalis do not have to live on man made single boundary with controversies. Borders do not unite people. Common history and genealogy do. .

[Dark Energy]

Abere,

The idea of having a leased port is wonderful. But, you can’t own a port that does not belong to you in the first place. Had Ethiopia initiated this on its own and consulted with Somalia and Somali Land, it would have been a successful agreement. The problem in this deal is the Dracula known as the Emirates. Abbiy would say anything to get what he wanted. The man is a liar who try’s to play prima Donna in all of his nilly Willy dealings. Deja vu terrorism is what is awaiting in this deal.

[Somaliman]

If Somalia decides to recognise Somaliland on a condition that it shouldnt enter deal with Abiye. Then i am sure Somaliland would take it. Somalia and Somaliland have been hold talkings for the past 12 years and they havent moved an inch forward to either separate or to unite.

But i doubt it really that people of Somalia would accept Somaliland to be independent its more contentious then Eritrea and Ethiopia dispute. I believe nobody Somaliland wants to unite with Somalia. and Nobody in Somalia wishes to let Somaliland go. You should google the Somaliland and Somalia talks it will give u some insight indeed. And u will see the nature of the conflict and controversy.

Thats why u have a dead lock nobdoy can break. Its not like Eritrea and Ethiopia where the tigrayans inside Ethiopia had no issues with Eritrea separating. With Somalia and Somaliland it is a different case.

if hassan sheikh recognises Somaliland independence he would be welcomed in Hargeisa how ever he cant return to Mogadishu his people will stone him to death for treachery .


Dr Zackovich

I believe nobody Somaliland wants to unite with Somalia.

You're utterly wrong.

The majority of the population in Somaliland does not want to secede from the rest of Somalia.

This is a fact and I know it first-hand, as I worked myself in this region for a number of years just a few years ago.

Don't believe those public gatherings and protests in Somaliland. FYI, this is a business that only people in this breakaway region know, as this type of business is something totally new in Somalia. Here is the business:

Guess what - in Somaliland, you can buy protests or demonstrations. it's up to you how many people you want to stage a protest for you and for how many hours, and the size of the area to cover. it's entirely up to your pocket. If you want, they can even follow you from one city all the way to another shouting your chosen slogans and making noise.

In Hargeisa, there are people who make business out of this. You don't pay individuals taking part in the gatherings or protests directly. You make a deal with those who are running this business. You agree with them on the number of participants in the gathering, slogans, duration, size of the area to cover, dress, etc. and they do the rest in a way that looks genuine.

I swear to the almighty God, this is true.

Many people know this in Hargeisa.

So, please don't believe the Hu Ha on the streets.

This type of business is also known in Madagascar.

if hassan sheikh recognises Somaliland independence

Recognition is beyond the capacity of a president. It's not a president that decides this. Holding talks with these mindless fuc.kers doesn't mean the recognition is in the pocket of the Somali president. Your hypothesis goes even against common sense. Somalia is not a property of the president in office.

[Zack]

Well here where i live the People from that region seem to be hard core sepratists. i have visited Hargeisa back in 2009 and back then it was very. anti Somalia . now maybe things have changed in 14 years I dont know. But to put things into perspective we need to stop this Limbo because it is not in our interests.

Either force them to be back in the Union politically socially come with a plan to do so. Or ignore them ,. but every time a country wants something whether it is the bantu stan countries. or Kenya they will use it as some sort leverage or some sort of blackmail against Somalia. Didnt Kenya threaten Recognise Somaliland if Somalia doesnt buy its qat not that long ago and the secessionist were jumping up and down. Do you remember this is the same but the Ethiopians are a different breed. They are our historical advesery and they know us as we know them. Its sime we use their internal factors against them the Gallaas the Amhara the affar the tigrayans . They should all get support from Somalia.


Now Ethiopia is different , Ethiopia doesnt care about international law. And isnt as submissive as the Kenyans the Kenyans are Bantu . Ethiopia is an old state it believes it has a divine right access to the red sea . This is a major danger


byt way ur funny maxaad tiri dadka wala soo kiireysta way ku dabaal degeyaan hahaah aad baan u qoslay



Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Well here where i live the People from that region seem to be hard core sepratists. i have visited Hargeisa back in 2009 and back then it was very. anti Somalia . now maybe things have changed in 14 years I dont know. But to put things into perspective we need to stop this Limbo because it is not in our interests.

Either force them to be back in the Union politically socially come with a plan to do so. Or ignore them ,. but every time a country wants something whether it is the bantu stan countries. or Kenya they will use it as some sort leverage or some sort of blackmail against Somalia. Didnt Kenya threaten Recognise Somaliland if Somalia doesnt buy its qat not that long ago and the secessionist were jumping up and down. Do you remember this is the same but the Ethiopians are a different breed. They are our historical advesery and they know us as we know them. Its sime we use their internal factors against them the Gallaas the Amhara the affar the tigrayans . They should all get support from Somalia.


Now Ethiopia is different , Ethiopia doesnt care about international law. And isnt as submissive as the Kenyans the Kenyans are Bantu . Ethiopia is an old state it believes it has a divine right access to the red sea . This is a major danger


byt way ur funny maxaad tiri dadka wala soo kiireysta way ku dabaal degeyaan hahaah aad baan u qoslay



Dr Zackovich

All it takes is to drill and extract oil in Somalia, make Somalia booming, and then call a referendum in the north, and they would reject their secession en mass, just to take advantage of the economic boom like the rest of the Somalis.

Practically speaking, they don't need any recognition, as they're almost completely independent..

Frankly, I hate to discuss Mirqaanland and their bullsh.it. They can go to hell.

It sounds funny, but it's abssolutely true. I'm not funny at all. This is a fact. Why should I make up stuff that can be easily verified!

War haddaad rabtid, Hargeisa ilaa Burco ayey ku daba qeylinayaan, adiga iyo jeebkaaga.
Toos looma kireysto dadka, ee dad la yaqaan ayaa loo maraa, oo lacag aan caadi ahayn ka sameeya, oo qaarna lacag ayay siiyaan, kuwa kalena raashin.