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ከም'ዚ ሰብኣይ'ዚ ፊያካ ዝኾነ ሰብ ይህሉ'ዶ ይኸውን?

Post by sarcasm » 16 Nov 2023, 19:58

32 ዓመታት ዘረባ ጥራይ ፍረ ኣልቦ ኮይኑ ተሪፉ።
sarcasm wrote:
02 Sep 2014, 19:25
RwandAir has become one of the fastest growing airlines on the African continent. It was established only 12 years ago and now flies to 15 destinations in East, Central , West and Southern Africa and the Middle East from its main base at Kigali International Airport in Kigali. In September 2013, The Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI), the main international index evaluating companies on their performance in terms of sustainable development, has awarded Rwandair the Best Short Haul Airline in Africa. In only 12 years they have managed to be ranked 8th in the "Best Regional Airlines in Africa" category in the "World Airline Award".

RwandaAir launches new African hub with Qatar Airways Cargo, Cargo Hub

The major new African cargo hub, Kigali Cargo Hub, will help RwandAir develop Kigali into a regional cargo powerhouse,


RwandAir, has partnered with Qatar Airways Cargo to launch a major new African cargo hub, Kigali Cargo Hub.

The new Kigali Cargo Hub is part of a long-term strategic plan for the cargo division of RwandAir, which has seen cargo carried rise by nearly 26% in the last five years.

The initiative will help RwandAir develop Kigali into a regional cargo powerhouse, boosting exports and imports around Africa and strengthening links with key overseas markets.

https://www.internationalairportreview. ... ays-cargo/


The $2 billion Rwandan airport that could help African aviation take off

By Jack Bantock, CNN
Updated 4:37 AM EDT, Thu July 20, 2023


Africa's busiest airport in 2022, by a large margin, was <strong>Cairo International Airport</strong>, according to Airports Council International, with more than 20 million passengers passing through.
Africa's busiest airports
1 of 11
PrevNext
CNN

Some 40 kilometers south of the Rwandan capital of Kigali in the Bugesera District, construction vehicles and high-visibility vests swarm across an arid expanse of land.

Here, two strips of tarmac are the cornerstone of a $2 billion airport, whose developers want it to be the jewel in the crown of Africa’s aviation industry.


Slated for completion in 2026, the new facility will boast a 130,000-square-meter main terminal building capable of accommodating 8 million passengers a year, a figure expected to rise to over 14 million in the following decades. Adjacent will be a dedicated cargo terminal, capable of accommodating 150,000 tons of cargo a year.

It’s a significant upgrade on the existing Kigali International Airport, which is set to remain operational for special arrivals, some chartered flights, and a pilot training school.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html


sarcasm wrote:
02 Sep 2014, 19:25
Ethoash wrote:
sarcasm wrote:
gearhead wrote:Wow sarcasm,

Those are huge drops in transportation time and cost by just establishing customs-union. Not that I don't take your word for it but it will highlight some urgency amongst the officials that read this thread if you can back the numbers with some sources.

Thanks
It is really amazing why this has not been done years ago. Here's the link for the numbers:

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Ug ... index.html

this is my last input in this subject

Dear sarcasm

what Uganda did is what i was saying

Uganda wavered visa requirement ... is that not what i was saying ?

second Uganda waived double taxation is that not what i say

here is what i say


No visa, no taxation free movment of good and service
on 31 Aug 2014, 06:30

okay what i say doesnt even ask for one time tax....my idea is if i took 100 kg teff to harar from Gojam there is no tax on the teff because i crossed state line the same way if one Kenyan bring good and service to harar i want him to be treated just like an Ethiopian trader who bring teff to harar no tax same treatment ,,,,


now let assume one South African traveler what to travel to Germany

now he have two choice to take any airlines and fly to Egypt stop over and fly to Germany

but he need Egypt visa because he want to visit Egypt while the stop over is more then 12 hours he wan to come out from airport

now the same guy doesnt need visa to come to Ethiopia and he can come out from airport and visit Ethiopia for 90 days visa which one do you think he will choice Egypt or Ethiopia now add no taxation

second example

let assume Ethiopia doesnt have taxation one Nigerian trader brining Chinese goods if he take all his goods at one time he will face Nigerian tax man but if he kept half in Ethiopian and come back for it next time instead of going to Chinese he save money by storing it in Ethiopia tax free


what i say is what uganda doing is great but they are doing it for few country that they deal with business there are already business between those country in Ethiopia we dont get Kenyan business as Ugandan so my point is to create business from zero to billion dollar business no visa not for few country but to all African country this alone encourage 10 POINT that would be good business

now you wander where the governmental get money if not tax at source the government get their money form sale tax...
gearhead wrote:Thanks sarcasm!

Lifting visa requierment is going to be difficult as emigration out of most of the countries is at its highest. But the customs union along transportation of goods can happen easily and without negative effects.
I believe visa waiver is a bold move that could benefit any country that takes the courageous step withstanding the never ending intelligence officers' fear-mongering of phantom security threats. For example, nationals of all African countries do not need to apply for visa to visit Rwanda as they are issued with one month visa on arrival. This welcoming gesture is sparing them the often cumbersome, tedious, and at times intimidating process of having to apply weeks in advance to secure a visa.

This bold farsighted policy has enabled RwandAir to gain more passengers spared from obtaining a transit visa in advance. They can now even stopover in Kigali for a day or two when traveling from one side of Africa to the other. RwandAir has become one of the fastest growing airlines on the African continent. It was established only 12 years ago and now flies to 15 destinations in East, Central , West and Southern Africa and the Middle East from its main base at Kigali International Airport in Kigali. In September 2013, The Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI), the main international index evaluating companies on their performance in terms of sustainable development, has awarded Rwandair the Best Short Haul Airline in Africa. In only 12 years they have managed to be ranked 8th in the "Best Regional Airlines in Africa" category in the "World Airline Award".

One Ethiopian meat exporter told a [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24542406]BBC[/b] reporter why it was cheaper to send his products to the Gulf than across the border to another African country. The reporter wrote: "He gave me a long list of complaints from red tape bureaucracy to transportation costs and other "hidden fees". Ironically he claimed that someone in the Gulf was re-exporting his meat with a different label to the African countries that he found too expensive to export to. His sentiments are backed by numbers: Whereas roughly 60% of Europe's trade is with other European countries, only 12% of African trade is with other African countries."

Ethoash,

Visa waver is one of many steps to be taken by any country that is serious in leading the region into better Horn of Africa. I hope you are not suggesting Ethiopia should introduce visa waver and fold its hands and declaring mission accomplished. One legislation cannot solve all the problems the country / region faces.

Gearhead,

I don't want us to divert into a different topic, but let's assume Ethiopia follows Rwanda's example and issues nationals of all African countries with 1 month visa on arrival or abandon visas for all African as suggested by Ethoash. Africans will not flood into Ethiopia to take Ethiopians' jobs. But African diaspora with their full pockets will flock into Addis connecting flights into their home countries. Many of them will definitely want to visit historic sites in the regions. Can you imagine the increase in tourist business in the regions and the goodwill the country gets among Africans? Note that Kenyans do not require visa to visit Ethiopia but you don't see them taking Ethiopians' jobs.

I believe uncorroborated fear is the first and biggest hurdle African governments and nationals should face in the long journey to promise land of regional integration. Nothing to fear but fear itself .....
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86092&start=40

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Post by sarcasm » 21 Nov 2023, 05:37

"ኣበይ ዘሎ ናይ ቱሪዝም ትሕተቅርጺ'ዮ ንስኻ ንወፍሪ ከተባብዕ ኢልካ ትዛረብ?" ኢሰያስ ንሓደ ኣብ ዓድና ከንውፍር ንደሊና ዝበሎ ዝመለሰሉ

ኢሰያስ ዓዲ ጥርሓ ባኮ ኣትሪፈያ ኢሉ ክናዛዝ፤ ደገፍቱ ዓዲ ትሕምበብ'ያ ዘላ ኢሎም ከመኽንዩሉ፤ መን ከም ዘረብርብ ጠፊኡና!

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Post by sesame » 21 Nov 2023, 06:05

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sarcasm
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Re: ከም'ዚ ሰብኣይ'ዚ ፊያካ ዝኾነ ሰብ ይህሉ'ዶ ይኸውን?

Post by sarcasm » 21 Aug 2024, 19:14

sarcasm wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 19:58
32 ዓመታት ዘረባ ጥራይ ፍረ ኣልቦ ኮይኑ ተሪፉ።
sarcasm wrote:
02 Sep 2014, 19:25
RwandAir has become one of the fastest growing airlines on the African continent. It was established only 12 years ago and now flies to 15 destinations in East, Central , West and Southern Africa and the Middle East from its main base at Kigali International Airport in Kigali. In September 2013, The Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI), the main international index evaluating companies on their performance in terms of sustainable development, has awarded Rwandair the Best Short Haul Airline in Africa. In only 12 years they have managed to be ranked 8th in the "Best Regional Airlines in Africa" category in the "World Airline Award".

RwandaAir launches new African hub with Qatar Airways Cargo, Cargo Hub

The major new African cargo hub, Kigali Cargo Hub, will help RwandAir develop Kigali into a regional cargo powerhouse,


RwandAir, has partnered with Qatar Airways Cargo to launch a major new African cargo hub, Kigali Cargo Hub.

The new Kigali Cargo Hub is part of a long-term strategic plan for the cargo division of RwandAir, which has seen cargo carried rise by nearly 26% in the last five years.

The initiative will help RwandAir develop Kigali into a regional cargo powerhouse, boosting exports and imports around Africa and strengthening links with key overseas markets.

https://www.internationalairportreview. ... ays-cargo/


The $2 billion Rwandan airport that could help African aviation take off

By Jack Bantock, CNN
Updated 4:37 AM EDT, Thu July 20, 2023


Africa's busiest airport in 2022, by a large margin, was <strong>Cairo International Airport</strong>, according to Airports Council International, with more than 20 million passengers passing through.
Africa's busiest airports
1 of 11
PrevNext
CNN

Some 40 kilometers south of the Rwandan capital of Kigali in the Bugesera District, construction vehicles and high-visibility vests swarm across an arid expanse of land.

Here, two strips of tarmac are the cornerstone of a $2 billion airport, whose developers want it to be the jewel in the crown of Africa’s aviation industry.


Slated for completion in 2026, the new facility will boast a 130,000-square-meter main terminal building capable of accommodating 8 million passengers a year, a figure expected to rise to over 14 million in the following decades. Adjacent will be a dedicated cargo terminal, capable of accommodating 150,000 tons of cargo a year.

It’s a significant upgrade on the existing Kigali International Airport, which is set to remain operational for special arrivals, some chartered flights, and a pilot training school.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html


sarcasm wrote:
02 Sep 2014, 19:25
Ethoash wrote:
sarcasm wrote:
gearhead wrote:Wow sarcasm,

Those are huge drops in transportation time and cost by just establishing customs-union. Not that I don't take your word for it but it will highlight some urgency amongst the officials that read this thread if you can back the numbers with some sources.

Thanks
It is really amazing why this has not been done years ago. Here's the link for the numbers:

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Ug ... index.html

this is my last input in this subject

Dear sarcasm

what Uganda did is what i was saying

Uganda wavered visa requirement ... is that not what i was saying ?

second Uganda waived double taxation is that not what i say

here is what i say


No visa, no taxation free movment of good and service
on 31 Aug 2014, 06:30

okay what i say doesnt even ask for one time tax....my idea is if i took 100 kg teff to harar from Gojam there is no tax on the teff because i crossed state line the same way if one Kenyan bring good and service to harar i want him to be treated just like an Ethiopian trader who bring teff to harar no tax same treatment ,,,,


now let assume one South African traveler what to travel to Germany

now he have two choice to take any airlines and fly to Egypt stop over and fly to Germany

but he need Egypt visa because he want to visit Egypt while the stop over is more then 12 hours he wan to come out from airport

now the same guy doesnt need visa to come to Ethiopia and he can come out from airport and visit Ethiopia for 90 days visa which one do you think he will choice Egypt or Ethiopia now add no taxation

second example

let assume Ethiopia doesnt have taxation one Nigerian trader brining Chinese goods if he take all his goods at one time he will face Nigerian tax man but if he kept half in Ethiopian and come back for it next time instead of going to Chinese he save money by storing it in Ethiopia tax free


what i say is what uganda doing is great but they are doing it for few country that they deal with business there are already business between those country in Ethiopia we dont get Kenyan business as Ugandan so my point is to create business from zero to billion dollar business no visa not for few country but to all African country this alone encourage 10 POINT that would be good business

now you wander where the governmental get money if not tax at source the government get their money form sale tax...
gearhead wrote:Thanks sarcasm!

Lifting visa requierment is going to be difficult as emigration out of most of the countries is at its highest. But the customs union along transportation of goods can happen easily and without negative effects.
I believe visa waiver is a bold move that could benefit any country that takes the courageous step withstanding the never ending intelligence officers' fear-mongering of phantom security threats. For example, nationals of all African countries do not need to apply for visa to visit Rwanda as they are issued with one month visa on arrival. This welcoming gesture is sparing them the often cumbersome, tedious, and at times intimidating process of having to apply weeks in advance to secure a visa.

This bold farsighted policy has enabled RwandAir to gain more passengers spared from obtaining a transit visa in advance. They can now even stopover in Kigali for a day or two when traveling from one side of Africa to the other. RwandAir has become one of the fastest growing airlines on the African continent. It was established only 12 years ago and now flies to 15 destinations in East, Central , West and Southern Africa and the Middle East from its main base at Kigali International Airport in Kigali. In September 2013, The Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI), the main international index evaluating companies on their performance in terms of sustainable development, has awarded Rwandair the Best Short Haul Airline in Africa. In only 12 years they have managed to be ranked 8th in the "Best Regional Airlines in Africa" category in the "World Airline Award".

One Ethiopian meat exporter told a [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24542406]BBC[/b] reporter why it was cheaper to send his products to the Gulf than across the border to another African country. The reporter wrote: "He gave me a long list of complaints from red tape bureaucracy to transportation costs and other "hidden fees". Ironically he claimed that someone in the Gulf was re-exporting his meat with a different label to the African countries that he found too expensive to export to. His sentiments are backed by numbers: Whereas roughly 60% of Europe's trade is with other European countries, only 12% of African trade is with other African countries."

Ethoash,

Visa waver is one of many steps to be taken by any country that is serious in leading the region into better Horn of Africa. I hope you are not suggesting Ethiopia should introduce visa waver and fold its hands and declaring mission accomplished. One legislation cannot solve all the problems the country / region faces.

Gearhead,

I don't want us to divert into a different topic, but let's assume Ethiopia follows Rwanda's example and issues nationals of all African countries with 1 month visa on arrival or abandon visas for all African as suggested by Ethoash. Africans will not flood into Ethiopia to take Ethiopians' jobs. But African diaspora with their full pockets will flock into Addis connecting flights into their home countries. Many of them will definitely want to visit historic sites in the regions. Can you imagine the increase in tourist business in the regions and the goodwill the country gets among Africans? Note that Kenyans do not require visa to visit Ethiopia but you don't see them taking Ethiopians' jobs.

I believe uncorroborated fear is the first and biggest hurdle African governments and nationals should face in the long journey to promise land of regional integration. Nothing to fear but fear itself .....
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86092&start=40

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