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Post by Horus » 19 May 2023, 02:07

እግጅ እጅግ ድንቅ የሆነ ወይይት! የዘሞ ስዮም ሕገ መንግስታዊ እውቀት ትልቅ ነው። ነጃ ስለ ዲያስፖራ ጉራጌ መደራጀት የምስራች ምስር ብላ! ኤርሚ እናመሰግንሃለን!!!

ዘና በሉ!


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Post by Right » 19 May 2023, 11:13

If we have to judge by the way he handled his isolation, Ermias Legesse will end up like Lidetu Ayalew and Sisay Agena. A lot of talent used for the wrong purposes.

We Ethiopians are egoistic by nature and can’t get along easily because we we take opinion differences personal. If Ermias can’t get above it then he will be thrown in to the garbage can like a piece of garbage.

You can’t quit a major platform and end up talking bad about your former colleagues. And on top of that you focus on other people’s agenda because they share the same kind of hatred against a certain group. Not good.

There is a saying: once you are bitten by the Weyannies it will stay with you forever. That is what happened to Abiye Ahmed Ali. Despite all the support he got from Ethiopians, he has a hard time turning his back on the TPLF.
Ermias was a junior minster in the EPDRF government. The Weyannies recruit him for a reason.

Those who now support him doing what he is doing do not have the national agenda. If he chooses to walk in that narrow tunnel, he will remain in the tunnel.

Ermias better go back to the biggest platform you left off and be a voice. You are a gifted man and use it for a higher purpose. A person and his individual freedom are more important than a group label.

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Post by Horus » 19 May 2023, 13:17

Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 11:13
If we have to judge by the way he handled his isolation, Ermias Legesse will end up like Lidetu Ayalew and Sisay Agena. A lot of talent used for the wrong purposes.

We Ethiopians are egoistic by nature and can’t get along easily because we we take opinion differences personal. If Ermias can’t get above it then he will be thrown in to the garbage can like a piece of garbage.

You can’t quit a major platform and end up talking bad about your former colleagues. And on top of that you focus on other people’s agenda because they share the same kind of hatred against a certain group. Not good.

There is a saying: once you are bitten by the Weyannies it will stay with you forever. That is what happened to Abiye Ahmed Ali. Despite all the support he got from Ethiopians, he has a hard time turning his back on the TPLF.
Ermias was a junior minster in the EPDRF government. The Weyannies recruit him for a reason.

Those who now support him doing what he is doing do not have the national agenda. If he chooses to walk in that narrow tunnel, he will remain in the tunnel.

Ermias better go back to the biggest platform you left off and be a voice. You are a gifted man and use it for a higher purpose. A person and his individual freedom are more important than a group label.
Ato Right,
ፈስ ያለበት ይባላል! ኤርሚያ ብዙ ብዙ አይነት አላማና ፍላጎት ያላቸው ስዎችና ድርጅቶችን ይጠይቃል፣ ያወያያል! ያንተ ቅሬታ ሲጀመርም ጉራጌ ክልልነት የመጠየቅ መብት የለውም የምትል አንድ ግለሰብ ነህ ። የጉራጌ ፖለቲካ ልሂቃን እንደ ምንለው ጉራጌ ጠላት የለውም! ራሱን የመግዛት መብቱን ግን ፈጣሪ እንኳ አይከለክለውም! ግዜህን በጉራጌ ጥያቄ ላይ አታባክን፣ አንተ የምትወስነው ጉዳይ አይደለም! ኤርሚያስ ለገሰ ምን እንደ ሚፈልግ፣ ምን እንደሚጠቅመው፣ ምን ማድረግ እንዳለበት ማወቅም መወሰንም የሚችል ሰው ነው። ትንሽ ሂዩሚሊቲ ይኑርህ ከብዙ ችግር ይጠብቅሃል ኬር


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Post by Right » 19 May 2023, 16:44

Horus,
This is not about Gurage and it is not about Ermias. It is about Ethiopia. I think we have gone through that and we reached to a point where the consensus is getting rid off the Oromuma toxic group and replace it with a progressive system that will address all concerns.
It is in that context I am asking Ermias to join the big platform and for the higher good. Humility? Just take a note that except a few people with tribal agenda, much of the public had enough of Ermias Legesse. I believe (I hope I am correct) it is a misunderstanding.

Hey there is no much time for tribal competition and self adulations. But if that is the priority then good luck to you all. I really don’t give a &sh&it if Gurage, Welayeta or all the 86 ethnic groups are killil or not. What I care is about Ethiopia having a fundamental change to benefit all its citizens.

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Post by Horus » 19 May 2023, 16:58

Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 16:44
Horus,
This is not about Gurage and it is not about Ermias. It is about Ethiopia. I think we have gone through that and we reached to a point where the consensus is getting rid off the Oromuma toxic group and replace it with a progressive system that will address all concerns.
It is in that context I am asking Ermias to join the big platform and for the higher good. Humility? Just take a note that except a few people with tribal agenda, much of the public had enough of Ermias Legesse. I believe (I hope I am correct) it is a misunderstanding.

Hey there is no much time for tribal competition and self adulations. But if that is the priority then good luck to you all. I really don’t give a &sh&it if Gurage, Welayeta or all the 86 ethnic groups are killil or not. What I care is about Ethiopia having a fundamental change to benefit all its citizens.
" much of the public had enough of Ermias Legesse" ዉሸት! You need to go and look up the word 'humility' and ከዚያም ትንሽ አደብ ግዛ! አንዴ ልድገምልህ! Stop trying to teach the Gurage how to be an Ethiopian :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post by Right » 19 May 2023, 17:11

Horus,
Take it or leave it. I really don’t care if Guarage is a killil or not. If they are happy to be a killil that is fine with me.what they have asked is to self rule and it is commendable. Don’t try to label me.
I mentioned Lidetu Ayalew and Sisay Agena earlier for a reason. Today Lidetu sounds like as aTPLF spokesperson and Sisay as PP spokesperson. They are courted by tribalists with agenda.
Time will tell about Ermias. Remember time revealed who Abiye Ahmed is.

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Post by Horus » 19 May 2023, 17:30

Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 17:11
Horus,
Take it or leave it. I really don’t care if Guarage is a killil or not. If they are happy to be a killil that is fine with me.what they have asked is to self rule and it is commendable. Don’t try to label me.
I mentioned Lidetu Ayalew and Sisay Agena earlier for a reason. Today Lidetu sounds like as aTPLF spokesperson and Sisay as PP spokesperson. They are courted by tribalists with agenda.
Time will tell about Ermias. Remember time revealed who Abiye Ahmed is.
የጉራጌ ጥያቄ፣ ልደቱና ሲሳይ የሚያገናኛቸው አንድ ነገር የለም ። ኤርሚያስ ልዩ ልዩ ሃሳብና አቋም ያላቸው ሰዎችን የመጠየቅ መብት አለው ! እሱም እራሱ እኛ ከምንፈልገው የተለየ ሃሳብ የመያዝ መብት አለው ። When are you going to learn how to think clearly? :x :x

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Post by Right » 19 May 2023, 18:31

I was commenting about Ermias Legesse, you jumped in and said I am against Gurage and make it personal. It is you who twisted my opinion and make it about Gurage and you have no shame calling me to think properly.

Again my comment was about Ermias Legesse and Ethiopia. My suggestion is to him not to you nor to the Guraghies.
BERHANU Nega is on the record saying “killil for Gurage is unnecessary” but you didn’t call him names.
2 years ago you said we are against Abiye because “we want only Amhara to rule Ethiopia” but we didn’t call you names.
Time will tell.

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Post by Horus » 19 May 2023, 20:46

Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 18:31
I was commenting about Ermias Legesse, you jumped in and said I am against Gurage and make it personal. It is you who twisted my opinion and make it about Gurage and you have no shame calling me to think properly.

Again my comment was about Ermias Legesse and Ethiopia. My suggestion is to him not to you nor to the Guraghies.
BERHANU Nega is on the record saying “killil for Gurage is unnecessary” but you didn’t call him names.
2 years ago you said we are against Abiye because “we want only Amhara to rule Ethiopia” but we didn’t call you names.
Time will tell.
I have called Berhanu names - የፖለቲካ አልዛይመር የያዘው የፓርቲ መሪ ነው ያልኩት፣ ያም ማለት መሰረታዊ የዴሞክራሲንና የሰው መብትን ጽንሰ ሃሳቦች እየረሳ ያለ ማለት ነው። እሱ ቤተሰቦች የናዝሬት ነጋዴዎች ስለሆኑ ከረሙማ ጋር ቢልክሰከስ ጉራጌ ን እንደ ሚፈልግ የሚያውቅ ክቡር ሕዝብ ነው ። ብርሃኑ አቢይ ወይም ሌላ ቀባጣሪ እኔ አውቅልሃለሁ የሚለው ሕዝብ አይደለም! በቃ! እዚህ የለጠፍኩት ቪዲዮ ሁለት የጉራጌ ጥያቄ መሪዎች ከኤርሚያስ ጋር ያደረጉት ውይይት ነው ። አንተ ግን ሌላው ቀርቶ ውይይቱን እንኳ አልሰማህም። ጸረ ጉራጌ ውጥረትክን ነው እዚም እዛም ቱስ የምትለው? አንተ አቅም ካለህ ኤርምይስን ጽፈህ ወይም ደውለህ እስቲ ተግድሎህን ለጥፍልን! ሹካሻክ! በቃ እጅህን ከጉራጌ ጥያቄ አንሳ! አያገባህም!

ብርሃኑ ከሆነ ትምህርት እየሰጠነው ነው ! አንድ ጉራጌ የሱ ፓርቲ አባል ይሆንም! አንድ ኢዜማ ጉራጌ አይመረጥም? ልክ እንደ ብልጽግና !! ጉራጌ የራሱ ፓርቲ ገምብቷል! ከፒሽ!

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Post by sun » 19 May 2023, 21:17

Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 16:44
Horus,
This is not about Gurage and it is not about Ermias. It is about Ethiopia. I think we have gone through that and we reached to a point where the consensus is getting rid off the Oromuma toxic group and replace it with a progressive system that will address all concerns.
It is in that context I am asking Ermias to join the big platform and for the higher good. Humility? Just take a note that except a few people with tribal agenda, much of the public had enough of Ermias Legesse. I believe (I hope I am correct) it is a misunderstanding.

Hey there is no much time for tribal competition and self adulations. But if that is the priority then good luck to you all. I really don’t give a &sh&it if Gurage, Welayeta or all the 86 ethnic groups are killil or not. What I care is about Ethiopia having a fundamental change to benefit all its citizens.
Really? :lol:

You want to replace "the Oromuma toxic group" with the neftenya neftenyuma extremist Amaruma fanatic assassin group?

መንገዱን ንጥር ቅቤ የተቀባ እርጥብ ጨርቅ ያድርግልህ። Till then keep braying and ranting high and loud!



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Post by Abere » 19 May 2023, 21:24

sun wrote:
19 May 2023, 21:17

Who is smarter? These donkeys or sh!t head Orommuma "sun"? :mrgreen:

እነኝህ አህያዎች ከኦሮሙማ የተሻለ አእምሮ አላቸው። እራሳቸውን በመስተዋት በማየት ፊታቸው ላይ ያለ ጉድፍ ለማራገፍ ፉር ፉር ይላሉ። :mrgreen:






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Post by sun » 19 May 2023, 21:38

Abere wrote:
19 May 2023, 21:24
sun wrote:
19 May 2023, 21:17

Who is smarter? These donkeys or sh!t head Orommuma "sun"? :mrgreen:

እነኝህ አህያዎች ከኦሮሙማ የተሻለ አእምሮ አላቸው። እራሳቸውን በመስተዋት በማየት ፊታቸው ላይ ያለ ጉድፍ ለማራገፍ ፉር ፉር ይላሉ። :mrgreen:




Abere The paranoid dumbo Mad bere,

Just leave alone the good Oromos, Amharas and all the other beautiful nations and nationalities of Ethiopia to exercise their democratic rights and rule their country jointly. Politics and rational nation building is not for vagabonds and vulgar extremist rats like you. Up in to your wet ar$$$ so that you may say, ፉር ፉር!
:lol:



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Re: የሰሞኑ የሕገ መንግሥት ወሬዎችና የጉራጌ ክልልነት ጥያቄ (ኤርሚያ፣ ነጃና ስዩም)

Post by Selam/ » 19 May 2023, 22:25

ጥንብ ካድሬ - ራይት ገራገር ነው። ሙጃሂዲን አብይንና እንሰሳውን ኦነግ-ሸኔን ‘መርዛማ ኦሮሙማ’ ብሎ አሽሞነሞናቸው። ለእኔ ግን በኋላ ኪሳቸው የወንድ ብልት ይዘው የሚዞሩ በደም የሰከሩ የወሰንጋ ቦኩ ሃራም ናቸው።
sun wrote:
19 May 2023, 21:17
Right wrote:
19 May 2023, 16:44
is getting rid off the Oromuma toxic group and replace it with a progressive system that will address all concerns.


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