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Discovery

Post by DefendTheTruth » 17 Apr 2022, 17:32

I have discovered today the reason why many of the Ethiopian youth are good at throwing stones and burning the properties of the people to the ground, all in the name of opposing the government. The enterprise is called Protest (Oromo Protest, Amhara Protest, Sidama Protest, Wolayita Protest, Guraghe Protest...., endless protest).

They are thought about a subject called civics, which seems to be mandatory in the national school leaving examination (commonly also called ESSLCE).

I have to admit that I didn't know what this subject is all about and had to search in google, after seeing the subject listed on the certification of the following student, Sifan Fita.





At the same time the home-grown languages are not (no more) mandatory in the country itself to pass the exam, where these students are going to join the workforce down the road and are expected to master at least one or more of those languages.

I was recently looking at a job-opening in which the fleuency in 3 languages was written out (it was for the Oromia region). Part of the requirements: fluency in Amharic, Afan Oromo and English.

I am not sure about the rest but in Europe the students are taught about Economics, Accounting, Language proficiency (in more than one language) but not in politics, at the secondary school level. That is why they don't throw stones and burn properties, because they understand "accounting".

The American universities will be sniffing at such talented students and will soon engulf them with admissions to their universities, with a relatively better paid scholarships. Such students will end-up serving the country which didn't contribute in bringing them up but catched them afterwards elsewhere and we turn around and complain about a phenomenon called "brain drain".

This young student will end-up in one of the American univesities and spend most of her time to use her talent for somewhere else, like many have done before her.

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Re: Discovery

Post by Ethoash » 19 Apr 2022, 11:16

Amhara universty




vs Wolkite University five star university



watch the whole thing if u have time. but i want u to compere the two kitchen

now about why student are goood at throwing stone instead of learning because edcucation is free in Ethiopia so they have nothing to lose they get fed/// so what those lazy students do is they know they going to fail the exam so they best thing is to throw stone and shut down the university and hopefully ESAT pickup the story and the next day they travel to Kenya to ask for refugee ... this is under golden time but now the protest is cooling down ... instead they start burning down factory for that i have a theory to

let say a cement factory hired 1000 workers but in the village there are ten thousand more unemployed . those unemployed always jealous of those who work in cement factory . so if the protest started and if the cement factory burned down they dont care because they have nothing to lose (in their little mind)

to stop this the cement factory must do their social obligation how by building school, road, drinking water, hospital and so on... i remember once the local hooligan demanding they should be given share in Cement factory. if the cement factory is smart they could have done their social obligation without harming their company CEMENT factory have leftover product called flyash. they dont use it they have store it with a lot of cost instead if they give this fly ash for the local youth to make brick .. in return they youth will never burn the factory because if they do they will lose.

next one is teaching the student how the factory hire their parent and provided the school and burning the factory means harming themselves this way the local will protect the factory and they grow together

this ownership feeling is very important .. even the Somalian hard man damaged the train railway because they dont care they r not benefited from the rail so they damage it ... but if the railway show them how they rail benefit them by giving them drinking water , school and hospital they will protect the rail way end of story .

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Re: Discovery

Post by DefendTheTruth » 19 Apr 2022, 15:20

ልጅ በጀርባ ተሸክማ፣ በእጅ እንጄራ ጋግራ ታሰድጋለች፣ ያልታደለች እናት ።
ልጁም ያድግና እናቴትን እንዴት አድርጌ መልሼ ልጦራት ብሎ እንደማሰብ፣ እስካሁን ያካበተቺዉን ሃብት (የአገርንም ሃብት ጨምሮ) እንዴት ላዉድም ብሎ ያስባል።

If we are not going to engineer a scape route out of this vicious cycle, then we shouldn't wounder ourselves about why we remained poor, dependent on aid from somewhere else.

That is where schooling in economics and accounting could help and that is also why many around the world care less about a civics education and focus on those subjects in teaching their children.

I heard also one of the reasons why people open a bank account for their small children is to teach them early enough on how to deal with their incomes and expenses, while being conscious of the balance sheet.

You teach the child about the simple fact that someone can't spend (debt) what is not on the credit side (deposit), early enough.

Those who lack this knowledge think burning the already dire resources of their own people would going to create more for them. They indebt themselves over the debt they have on themselves.

Ethoash wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 11:16
Amhara universty




vs Wolkite University five star university



watch the whole thing if u have time. but i want u to compere the two kitchen

now about why student are goood at throwing stone instead of learning because edcucation is free in Ethiopia so they have nothing to lose they get fed/// so what those lazy students do is they know they going to fail the exam so they best thing is to throw stone and shut down the university and hopefully ESAT pickup the story and the next day they travel to Kenya to ask for refugee ... this is under golden time but now the protest is cooling down ... instead they start burning down factory for that i have a theory to

let say a cement factory hired 1000 workers but in the village there are ten thousand more unemployed . those unemployed always jealous of those who work in cement factory . so if the protest started and if the cement factory burned down they dont care because they have nothing to lose (in their little mind)

to stop this the cement factory must do their social obligation how by building school, road, drinking water, hospital and so on... i remember once the local hooligan demanding they should be given share in Cement factory. if the cement factory is smart they could have done their social obligation without harming their company CEMENT factory have leftover product called flyash. they dont use it they have store it with a lot of cost instead if they give this fly ash for the local youth to make brick .. in return they youth will never burn the factory because if they do they will lose.

next one is teaching the student how the factory hire their parent and provided the school and burning the factory means harming themselves this way the local will protect the factory and they grow together

this ownership feeling is very important .. even the Somalian hard man damaged the train railway because they dont care they r not benefited from the rail so they damage it ... but if the railway show them how they rail benefit them by giving them drinking water , school and hospital they will protect the rail way end of story .

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Re: Discovery

Post by Ethoash » 21 Apr 2022, 11:26

DDT

you missing my point Bahir Dar University and Wolkite University given the same amount of money billion birr per years. and look how the Bahir Dar University managed their money and look how the Wolkite University manged their money...

Wolkite University start out from the same point like Bahir Dar በቅጠል እንጀራ መጋገር ከዚያ የአምስት ኮከብ ሁቴል ምግብ መስሪያ ገዝቶ ፣ ማድቤቱን ዘመናዊ አረገው። እንጨት ከመጨረስም በኤሌትሪክ መሆኑ የስራተኛው ጤንነት መጠበቁ ወዘተ የመጣው በመላ ምት ሳይሆን በዩኒቨሪስቲው አመራር ብቃትና ፍላጎት ነው። ስለዚህ አገር የሚሻሻለው እንደዚህ ያሉትን አስተዳድሮች ፈልጎ ወድ ከተማ አስተዳደርነት ቢተኩ ወልቂጤንም ያሳድጉዋታል ባይ ነኝ።

beside teaching the children about money is good advice but at our hand we have Bahir Dar University management who doesn't do their job so what can we do to motivate them the only thing is to crate computation... award the best University every years and give them management money reward in million birr that will motivate and show this university to other university so they would be embarrassed if the student visit from Bahir Dar and see how Wolkite university work then when they come back they demand more ....even voting system should be implemented to select the university board hence they will work hard to keep their job ... have a nice day

actually i mad that Bahir Dar university wasting our time and the students time ... it is wasted time .. the Students deserve more the workers deserve more the university must be like one industry that support the whole village for example if the university have bakery they can sale bread for local and feed the students ... if the university have milk cow they can feed the students and sale to local the university can generate their own income instead of getting yearly billion birr from the government ... the government can use this million to develop the local hospital, and crate job etc.

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Re: Discovery

Post by DefendTheTruth » 21 Apr 2022, 14:52

Ethoash wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 11:26
DDT

you missing my point Bahir Dar University and Wolkite University given the same amount of money billion birr per years. and look how the Bahir Dar University managed their money and look how the Wolkite University manged their money...

Wolkite University start out from the same point like Bahir Dar በቅጠል እንጀራ መጋገር ከዚያ የአምስት ኮከብ ሁቴል ምግብ መስሪያ ገዝቶ ፣ ማድቤቱን ዘመናዊ አረገው። እንጨት ከመጨረስም በኤሌትሪክ መሆኑ የስራተኛው ጤንነት መጠበቁ ወዘተ የመጣው በመላ ምት ሳይሆን በዩኒቨሪስቲው አመራር ብቃትና ፍላጎት ነው። ስለዚህ አገር የሚሻሻለው እንደዚህ ያሉትን አስተዳድሮች ፈልጎ ወድ ከተማ አስተዳደርነት ቢተኩ ወልቂጤንም ያሳድጉዋታል ባይ ነኝ።

beside teaching the children about money is good advice but at our hand we have Bahir Dar University management who doesn't do their job so what can we do to motivate them the only thing is to crate computation... award the best University every years and give them management money reward in million birr that will motivate and show this university to other university so they would be embarrassed if the student visit from Bahir Dar and see how Wolkite university work then when they come back they demand more ....even voting system should be implemented to select the university board hence they will work hard to keep their job ... have a nice day

actually i mad that Bahir Dar university wasting our time and the students time ... it is wasted time .. the Students deserve more the workers deserve more the university must be like one industry that support the whole village for example if the university have bakery they can sale bread for local and feed the students ... if the university have milk cow they can feed the students and sale to local the university can generate their own income instead of getting yearly billion birr from the government ... the government can use this million to develop the local hospital, and crate job etc.
Bahirdar University is busy teaching about the fantom of going to destroy somebody else, today or tomorrow, in all directions of the country.

Wolkite University, on the other hand, is keeping itself focused on winning by means of gaining knowledge, in this regard it is a role model of the country and beyond.

This sickness is not only a major drawback for the Bahirdar University alone, but also of many others around the country, I for sure know other similar universities, like Ambo University in the center.

Those who have knowledge will win at the end of the day.

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Re: Discovery

Post by DefendTheTruth » 21 Apr 2022, 16:57

Ethoash wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 11:26
DDT

you missing my point Bahir Dar University and Wolkite University given the same amount of money billion birr per years. and look how the Bahir Dar University managed their money and look how the Wolkite University manged their money...

Wolkite University start out from the same point like Bahir Dar በቅጠል እንጀራ መጋገር ከዚያ የአምስት ኮከብ ሁቴል ምግብ መስሪያ ገዝቶ ፣ ማድቤቱን ዘመናዊ አረገው። እንጨት ከመጨረስም በኤሌትሪክ መሆኑ የስራተኛው ጤንነት መጠበቁ ወዘተ የመጣው በመላ ምት ሳይሆን በዩኒቨሪስቲው አመራር ብቃትና ፍላጎት ነው። ስለዚህ አገር የሚሻሻለው እንደዚህ ያሉትን አስተዳድሮች ፈልጎ ወድ ከተማ አስተዳደርነት ቢተኩ ወልቂጤንም ያሳድጉዋታል ባይ ነኝ።

beside teaching the children about money is good advice but at our hand we have Bahir Dar University management who doesn't do their job so what can we do to motivate them the only thing is to crate computation... award the best University every years and give them management money reward in million birr that will motivate and show this university to other university so they would be embarrassed if the student visit from Bahir Dar and see how Wolkite university work then when they come back they demand more ....even voting system should be implemented to select the university board hence they will work hard to keep their job ... have a nice day

actually i mad that Bahir Dar university wasting our time and the students time ... it is wasted time .. the Students deserve more the workers deserve more the university must be like one industry that support the whole village for example if the university have bakery they can sale bread for local and feed the students ... if the university have milk cow they can feed the students and sale to local the university can generate their own income instead of getting yearly billion birr from the government ... the government can use this million to develop the local hospital, and crate job etc.
In the following video one of the participants said wordly:

"They decide to buy a gun before they could buy trousers for themselves" (referring to those who opted to terrorize the people in the name of freedom calling themselves Fano and Shane).


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Re: Discovery

Post by Tiago » 22 Apr 2022, 01:58



"The oromo retires me"

Shashamene Zuria (Ethiopia) (AFP) –

Girma had no choice but to watch from afar as a crowd chanting "This is our place!" set fire to the school he founded more than a decade ago.

Though he has lived his whole life in Shashamene, a fast-growing town in Ethiopia's Oromia region, Girma's parents are not members of the country's largest ethnic group, the Oromo, meaning he is often treated as an outsider.

Had he tried to intervene and save his school from the Oromo youths bent on destroying it, he thinks he may well have been killed.

"If you leave them to do whatever they want, they don't touch you. But if you try and save your place and property, they'll come to you," he said, asking to be identified only by his first name.

The unrest that left Girma's school a charred ruin was kicked off by the murder two weeks ago of Hachalu Hundessa, a pop star beloved by Oromos for giving voice to deep-rooted feelings of political and economic marginalisation.

Yet those numbers fail to capture the full devastation in places like Shashamene, where hundreds of homes, schools, hotels and other businesses owned by non-Oromos were targeted for destruction by mobs.

Similar property damage has been reported in towns across Oromia, which surrounds the capital Addis Ababa.

"Our research so far suggests that the property damage has been worse than in previous bouts of unrest," said Laetitia Bader of Human Rights Watch.

To non-Oromo victims, the damage indicates they may no longer be welcome in places they have long called home.

"With the strategy that they're using, to burn the key places... I don't know if they intend for people to come back," said Almaz Morgan Chapman, who lost her hotel in Shashamene to the violence.

- 'Oromo lives matter' -

Shashamene is best known for its large community of Rastafarians, but the town is also one of the busiest trading hubs in Ethiopia's Rift Valley.

That means there was plenty of high-value property to attack.

On a main road into town, businesses have been looted and burnt black, their front windows shattered, their walkways covered in twisted scrap metal.

Sidewalks are lined with torched vehicles, including five soda delivery trucks surrounded by broken bottles.

On the side of a looted insurance company building, someone scrawled the words "OROMO LIVES MATTER".

Yet certain buildings -- a school here, a restaurant there -- remain unscathed, and residents told AFP most of these are owned by Oromos.

Chapman, a native of Trinidad and Tobago who founded her 28-room Lily of the Valley hotel 15 years ago, said a mob set it alight mere hours after Hachalu's death was reported, forcing her to flee the compound while still in her pyjamas.

She noted that a neighbouring hotel owned by an ethnic Amhara was also looted, but a third hotel on the same strip owned by an Oromo went untouched.

"These attacks on property owned by non-Oromos are sadly only the latest bout of intercommunal violence in Ethiopia where political polarisation is often along ethnic lines," said William Davison of International Crisis Group.

- Scare tactics -

It is unclear how many people were killed and injured in Shashamene during the violence.

The government has not provided geographic breakdowns of fatality tallies, nor has it said how many deaths were caused by security forces or inter-ethnic violence.

Some Shashamene victims treated in nearby Hawassa were shot by security forces, while others were hurt with "sticks and stones", which are sometimes used in inter-ethnic attacks, said Dr Zinaw Serniso, CEO of Hawassa Referral Hospital.

Whatever the casualty count, relations between ethnic groups are clearly fraying.

At the height of the violence, young men in Shashamene dragged machetes along cobblestone roads, producing a grating sound intended to intimidate non-Oromos, said one resident, who insisted on anonymity for her safety.

With only native Afaan Oromo speakers feeling comfortable going outside, "it took three days before we started to hear Amharic in the street again," the resident said.

Witnesses stressed that many Oromos stood up for their non-Oromo neighbours, trying to prevent their homes and businesses from being destroyed.

One Oromo resident, who also insisted on anonymity, told AFP he took in an ethnic Gurage family who live next door, adding that he was "embarrassed by what happened" in Shashamene.

"It's very sad as an Ethiopian that I'm alive at this time, thinking about ethnicity when we should be focusing on the worst poverty ever," he said.

"We have nothing and we destroy what we have."

- Business is 'finished' -

Such shows of solidarity aside, several non-Oromo business owners said they were considering leaving.

One owner said two of her staff from the Amhara region recently packed up and fled after six years in Shashamene.

The government should prioritise "credible prosecution and redress" to prevent such violence from happening again, HRW's Bader said.

Chapman, the hotel owner, said she would stay in the area to see if the government would compensate her for her losses, but she has no plans to reopen.

"I still love Ethiopia... But as far as doing business, I'm finished. Retired," she said.

"The Oromo retired me."

© 2020 AFP


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Re: Discovery

Post by Ethoash » 22 Apr 2022, 18:03

Ato Tiago

how u doing ? why did u post this an unrelated post in here ?

Anyhow i try to answer your question to my best of my knowledge...

The article title "The oromo retires me" is wrong....the writer did not see the root of the problem.

Chapman, a native of Trinidad and Tobago who founded her 28-room Lily of the Valley hotel 15 years ago, said a mob set it alight mere hours after Hachalu's death was reported, forcing her to flee the compound while still in her pyjamas.

Chapman, a native of Trinidad and Tobago ask the question and answer her own question by saying

The oromo, mere hours after Hachalu's death was reported, the mob set it alight, on her 28-room Lily of the Valley hotel,

so, the cause of this mayhem belong to the Hachalu killers....u.

now the questions is

1. Why did they killed Hachalu ?
2. Who killed him?
3. What the oromo think who killed him?
4. Who have the motive to kill him?

to above 4 questions the answer is Amhara ...

the Amhara never say consequences

for example they will say


አረብ ይወጣ ካገራችን ይላሉ። ግን አረብ ያሉትን የእኛ እህቶችን ሲያባሩሩ ከአገራቸው ኡኡ እንላለን።
አለሙዲን የወርቁን መዐድን እንቀማለን ወይ አናስራም እንላለን ፣ አረቦች እልሀቸውን ሲወጡብን እናለቅሳለን።
አሜሪካኖች አምባሳደር አብይን ሊያነጋግር ሲመጣ አብይን አይመጥንህም አትየው ፣ አትቀበለው እንላለን ከዚያ አሜሪካ መሀቀብ ስታረግ እናለቅሳለን ለምን የምንስራው ስራ ሁሌ አላፊነት የጎደለው ነው እንጂያ።

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