Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
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DefendTheTruth
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Addis Ababa city rewards 1.5 Billion Birr to Ethiopian Defence Forces
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Defend,DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Fair enough! However, the Amhara had more than their fair share of trauma in the last 40 years.
የኦሮሞ ልዩ ሐይል ግን ኦነግን ሲያጠፋ ይሸለማል፣ እሺ? ~
ለነገሩ ውስጡ የኦነግ ጀሌዎችን ደምሮ በግማሽ ልብ መዋጋት እያስቸገረው ነው፤
የአማራ ልዮ ሀይል ፍትሐዊ የብሶት ጦርነት ሐሳብን ታጥቆ ትሕነግን ቀበረው፤ (per G. Berhanu Gula)
ሌላ ሚሥጥር የለውም።
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
They deserve it!!! Congratulations!!!
...In the meantime, Amhara Liyu Hayl and militia have the best gift to the people of Amhara. They sacrificed their dear lives to chase the coward TPLF militia out of every inch of their fertile lands: Kefta-Humera, Welkait, Tsegede, Tselemti, Raya and more


Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
አስካሁን ደረስ ባሳዩት ሰባዊነት ለጁንታው ቅጥረኞችም አንኩዋን ቢሆን ጠላትም ቢሆኑም ከኣይምሮ ባላይ የሆነ ጭካኔና አብሪት ቢያሳዩም የተራበውን ኣብልቶ የቆሰለውን ኣክሞ ኢትዮጵያዊነትን ምን ማለት አንደሆነ ለኛም ጭምር ያስተማረ ሃይል አና ህዝብ ነው። በደልኛን የሚጸየፍ ነገር ግን ይቅር ባይ የሆነ የእግዚያብሄርን መንገድ በወሬ ብቻ ሳይሆን አንደቃሉ በምኖር ተምሳሌት የሆነ ህዝብ አና ሃየል ነው።
ስለዚህ በዚህ ህዝብ አና ሃይል ላቡ የማይነካ ካለ የስበእና ችግር ያለበት መሆን ኣለበት ብዬ በኔ ሃሳብ ኣምናልሁ። ሌላ ኣንደነገር መጨመር የምፈልገው የኣዳነች ኣቤቤን በጣም ብዙ ስራውች አቃወማለሁ ግን የዛሬውን የተመሰገነ ስራ መሆኑን አና በዚሁ ኣይነት ሃቁን የምተመረኮዝ ከሆነ ሰልስዋ ያለንን ኣቋም የማንቀይርበት ምንም ምክኛት የለም። ማኒም ያጠፋል ግን ከስ ህተት መማር ደግሞ የበለጠ የትልቅ ሰው መለኪያ ነው።
ስለዚህ በዚህ ህዝብ አና ሃይል ላቡ የማይነካ ካለ የስበእና ችግር ያለበት መሆን ኣለበት ብዬ በኔ ሃሳብ ኣምናልሁ። ሌላ ኣንደነገር መጨመር የምፈልገው የኣዳነች ኣቤቤን በጣም ብዙ ስራውች አቃወማለሁ ግን የዛሬውን የተመሰገነ ስራ መሆኑን አና በዚሁ ኣይነት ሃቁን የምተመረኮዝ ከሆነ ሰልስዋ ያለንን ኣቋም የማንቀይርበት ምንም ምክኛት የለም። ማኒም ያጠፋል ግን ከስ ህተት መማር ደግሞ የበለጠ የትልቅ ሰው መለኪያ ነው።
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
You know that the first to defend and free Weyane circled Ethiopian Defense forces were the Amhara Liyu forces. Had weyanes win this war, you wouldn't even have a time to complain about it 300 million , had the Oromo Liyu forces went there and did the same sacrifice they should have gotten rewarded for that . Well ለራስ ሲቆርሱ አያሳንሱ እንዲሉ ፣ አዳነች አቤቤ የከንቲባ ስልጣኗን በያዘች በሁለት ወሯ ለአዲስ አበባ አካባቢ ለሚገኙ የኦሮሞ አስተዳደር ትምህርት ቤቶች 1。5 ቢሊየን ብር አንስታ ስጦታ አበርክታለች፡ ይህንን ሳታነብ የቀረህ አልመሰለኝም፡ የዚያን ግዜ ግን የአዲስ አበባ ከተማ የበጎ አድራጎት ድርጅት ነው ወይ ስትል አልሰማንህም ፡ ወይንም ታከለ ኡማ ኮንዶሚኒየም እና መሬት እንደ ትኩስ ኬክ ሲያድል ጠላት አድርገህ ታወግዝ የነበረው ስራውን የሚያገልጠውን እስክንድርን ነበር፤ ታከለ ኡማን በተመለከት የሚሰራውን ስራ ትደግፍ ነበረ ወይም ደግሞ you are the supporter of Franklin D Rooseevelt motto " Somoza may be a son of a [deleted] , but he's our son of a [deleted] " So much for principled stance .DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Look at how you think.Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 18:59There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Ethiopian defense force is the defense force of the country, the people of Ethiopia (including the people of A.A.). Supporting and encouraging them is not only morally, but also legally binding. It is not for any particular group, but for the whole.
The so called liyu hail is a private property of their own kilil. In federalism principle a kilil is an autonomous entitiy, independent of the other kilils. I don't think that Amhara kilil consulted with A. A. when recruiting and building a fighting force of the region that is bigger than what it can even maintain and sustain.
We were questioning the idea that took Ato Eskinder Nega to Bahirdar for the first time outside of A. A., where he claimed to stand for and represent its interest.
Geographically Adama would have been nearer to Addis Ababa than Bahirdar, but blood is thicker than water or so, like they say.
This so called liyu hail seems to me to not even understand what it is doing and what it is up to. It was created based on the provisions of the constitution of the country but then it went out to show in public trying to discard the constitution itself.
Now the country's president showed solidarity with the same entity that was disparaging the country's constitutionally established flag in public by taking photo posture along with and donating money to.
I have said long time ago that there is no need for the so called kilils to build such a massive fighting force that they can't even maintain and now the other regions have to spring in lending their supporting hands to the same force, which is created and maintained to kill and maim the people of the country itself.
Amhara's liyu hail is created to fight against Tigray, Oromiya, Beneshangul, etc. Oromia's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Tigray, Somali, etc.
Tigray's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Oromo, Afar etc.
Telll me if they were created to defend the country against any external adeversaries/aggressors.
The people of Addis Ababa should support and encourage the national defense force of the country, but it needed to send more of the children of the poor families to a school and care for before starting to donate the money to nurture the so called liyu hail of a different kilil.
That much I can say fpr my conscience,
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
it is not only to amhara region. addis ababa also donated for afar, oromia, tigray and beshangul
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
DefendTheTribe aka GaIIa tribe,
The fact of the matter is that anything related to Amhara strikes your nerves. Its a disease that can't be cured. Its called inferiority complex. Your reflection is on the same page as that of Taye Dendea, by extension the opdo circle aka olf aka the criminals they need to be removed as is tplf. You are an idiot, a real idi@t who can't make a simple analysis. All you think is through the tribal mirror. Why do you thing a higher official reward the special force if it acted illegally and anti constitutionally? Without saying the fact that the very special force was the one who helped and saved the encircled EDF. GaIIas like you are idi@ts who never get civilized. Your kinds are a disgrace opportunists. Moron
The fact of the matter is that anything related to Amhara strikes your nerves. Its a disease that can't be cured. Its called inferiority complex. Your reflection is on the same page as that of Taye Dendea, by extension the opdo circle aka olf aka the criminals they need to be removed as is tplf. You are an idiot, a real idi@t who can't make a simple analysis. All you think is through the tribal mirror. Why do you thing a higher official reward the special force if it acted illegally and anti constitutionally? Without saying the fact that the very special force was the one who helped and saved the encircled EDF. GaIIas like you are idi@ts who never get civilized. Your kinds are a disgrace opportunists. Moron
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 05:28Look at how you think.Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 18:59There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Ethiopian defense force is the defense force of the country, the people of Ethiopia (including the people of A.A.). Supporting and encouraging them is not only morally, but also legally binding. It is not for any particular group, but for the whole.
The so called liyu hail is a private property of their own kilil. In federalism principle a kilil is an autonomous entitiy, independent of the other kilils. I don't think that Amhara kilil consulted with A. A. when recruiting and building a fighting force of the region that is bigger than what it can even maintain and sustain.
We were questioning the idea that took Ato Eskinder Nega to Bahirdar for the first time outside of A. A., where he claimed to stand for and represent its interest.
Geographically Adama would have been nearer to Addis Ababa than Bahirdar, but blood is thicker than water or so, like they say.
This so called liyu hail seems to me to not even understand what it is doing and what it is up to. It was created based on the provisions of the constitution of the country but then it went out to show in public trying to discard the constitution itself.
Now the country's president showed solidarity with the same entity that was disparaging the country's constitutionally established flag in public by taking photo posture along with and donating money to.
I have said long time ago that there is no need for the so called kilils to build such a massive fighting force that they can't even maintain and now the other regions have to spring in lending their supporting hands to the same force, which is created and maintained to kill and maim the people of the country itself.
Amhara's liyu hail is created to fight against Tigray, Oromiya, Beneshangul, etc. Oromia's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Tigray, Somali, etc.
Tigray's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Oromo, Afar etc.
Telll me if they were created to defend the country against any external adeversaries/aggressors.
The people of Addis Ababa should support and encourage the national defense force of the country, but it needed to send more of the children of the poor families to a school and care for before starting to donate the money to nurture the so called liyu hail of a different kilil.
That much I can say fpr my conscience,
Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Blank check, or transfer of addis assets? Cause Check the size of the federal budget aint coming from addis revenues! By whose signature Mrs. Milosovic awarded her serbian amhara army is also at question. Kkkk
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
So you are saying, the Amhara Liyu should have sit tight while the TPLF army was massacring the ENDF that you so proudly seem to be supporting ? They should sit idle and let your strategic buddies, the TPLF boys ran thru Woldiya and Gondar to finally give you the liberation that you have been dreaming about?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 05:28Look at how you think.Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 18:59There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Ethiopian defense force is the defense force of the country, the people of Ethiopia (including the people of A.A.). Supporting and encouraging them is not only morally, but also legally binding. It is not for any particular group, but for the whole.
The so called liyu hail is a private property of their own kilil. In federalism principle a kilil is an autonomous entitiy, independent of the other kilils. I don't think that Amhara kilil consulted with A. A. when recruiting and building a fighting force of the region that is bigger than what it can even maintain and sustain.
We were questioning the idea that took Ato Eskinder Nega to Bahirdar for the first time outside of A. A., where he claimed to stand for and represent its interest.
Geographically Adama would have been nearer to Addis Ababa than Bahirdar, but blood is thicker than water or so, like they say.
This so called liyu hail seems to me to not even understand what it is doing and what it is up to. It was created based on the provisions of the constitution of the country but then it went out to show in public trying to discard the constitution itself.
Now the country's president showed solidarity with the same entity that was disparaging the country's constitutionally established flag in public by taking photo posture along with and donating money to.
I have said long time ago that there is no need for the so called kilils to build such a massive fighting force that they can't even maintain and now the other regions have to spring in lending their supporting hands to the same force, which is created and maintained to kill and maim the people of the country itself.
Amhara's liyu hail is created to fight against Tigray, Oromiya, Beneshangul, etc. Oromia's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Tigray, Somali, etc.
Tigray's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Oromo, Afar etc.
Telll me if they were created to defend the country against any external adeversaries/aggressors.
The people of Addis Ababa should support and encourage the national defense force of the country, but it needed to send more of the children of the poor families to a school and care for before starting to donate the money to nurture the so called liyu hail of a different kilil.
That much I can say fpr my conscience,
I didn't talk about why Liyu was created..in fact I am one of those who supports the disbanding of such forces. However, the reality is they are there until your kin decides what to do with them. In fact the existence of Liyu Hail is a security threat for the country to continue as one polity. Oromiya has trained Liyu for more than 32 rounds numbering in hundreds of thousands. Such large number of Oromiya Liyu is unable to defeat the few rag tag bandits roaming in Wellega. Oromiya Liyu in fact lend hands to help its soulmate OLF, to massacre innocent lives just because they are perceived to be none Oromos.
If you had carefully listened to your PM, you would have at least agreed with his statements regarding the Amhara Liyu that you are so hasty to denounce. They paid in blood to save the ENDF that you pretend to support at least for now. No amount of money could replace the lives lost but, you are concerned about the few pennies thrown at the Liyu of Amhara.
The People of Addis Ababa are 70% Amhara and 99% Amharic speakers. If they give a few pennies for those who died to save them, it is their responsibility. We all know why the OLF boys are so scared now that their backbone aka TPLF is routed within a few days of engagement.
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Za-Ilmaknun,Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 14:51So you are saying, the Amhara Liyu should have sit tight while the TPLF army was massacring the ENDF that you so proudly seem to be supporting ? They should sit idle and let your strategic buddies, the TPLF boys ran thru Woldiya and Gondar to finally give you the liberation that you have been dreaming about?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 05:28Look at how you think.Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 18:59There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Ethiopian defense force is the defense force of the country, the people of Ethiopia (including the people of A.A.). Supporting and encouraging them is not only morally, but also legally binding. It is not for any particular group, but for the whole.
The so called liyu hail is a private property of their own kilil. In federalism principle a kilil is an autonomous entitiy, independent of the other kilils. I don't think that Amhara kilil consulted with A. A. when recruiting and building a fighting force of the region that is bigger than what it can even maintain and sustain.
We were questioning the idea that took Ato Eskinder Nega to Bahirdar for the first time outside of A. A., where he claimed to stand for and represent its interest.
Geographically Adama would have been nearer to Addis Ababa than Bahirdar, but blood is thicker than water or so, like they say.
This so called liyu hail seems to me to not even understand what it is doing and what it is up to. It was created based on the provisions of the constitution of the country but then it went out to show in public trying to discard the constitution itself.
Now the country's president showed solidarity with the same entity that was disparaging the country's constitutionally established flag in public by taking photo posture along with and donating money to.
I have said long time ago that there is no need for the so called kilils to build such a massive fighting force that they can't even maintain and now the other regions have to spring in lending their supporting hands to the same force, which is created and maintained to kill and maim the people of the country itself.
Amhara's liyu hail is created to fight against Tigray, Oromiya, Beneshangul, etc. Oromia's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Tigray, Somali, etc.
Tigray's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Oromo, Afar etc.
Telll me if they were created to defend the country against any external adeversaries/aggressors.
The people of Addis Ababa should support and encourage the national defense force of the country, but it needed to send more of the children of the poor families to a school and care for before starting to donate the money to nurture the so called liyu hail of a different kilil.
That much I can say fpr my conscience,
I didn't talk about why Liyu was created..in fact I am one of those who supports the disbanding of such forces. However, the reality is they are there until your kin decides what to do with them. In fact the existence of Liyu Hail is a security threat for the country to continue as one polity. Oromiya has trained Liyu for more than 32 rounds numbering in hundreds of thousands. Such large number of Oromiya Liyu is unable to defeat the few rag tag bandits roaming in Wellega. Oromiya Liyu in fact lend hands to help its soulmate OLF, to massacre innocent lives just because they are perceived to be none Oromos.
If you had carefully listened to your PM, you would have at least agreed with his statements regarding the Amhara Liyu that you are so hasty to denounce. They paid in blood to save the ENDF that you pretend to support at least for now. No amount of money could replace the lives lost but, you are concerned about the few pennies thrown at the Liyu of Amhara.
The People of Addis Ababa are 70% Amhara and 99% Amharic speakers. If they give a few pennies for those who died to save them, it is their responsibility. We all know why the OLF boys are so scared now that their backbone aka TPLF is routed within a few days of engagement.
you can have your liyu if you like but there are some facts that you can't hide any more.
the operation was conducted to enforce the rule of law (ህግ ማስከበር) and the Amara liyu Hail was also deployed to be part of the law enforcement power of the state.
That is good, i have no problem with that, becuase the integrity of the nation itself was in grave danger.
But your Amhara liyu hail didn't understand what it means to enforce the rule of law. if you may claim otherwise, then you have to enlighten your audiences what it means to profane the national flag of the country and wave unconstitutional flag of the same country that they were supposed to enforce its rule of law and defend it.
I don't know how much they were involved in the whole of the operation but the little information i have says that they were deployed to only the border areas to the Amhara region.
If this is true, then their main mission was to avenge and there by reclaim the territory they considered was taken from them.
Then they turned around and claimed themselves about grabbing power at the regional level and start calling themselves deputy Administrator and responsible for the security of the area they forcefully occupied. This was how they were involved in the law enforcement operation, for your Amhara liyu hail.
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DefendTheTruth
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
For the record, according to many observers and testimonies of those directly involved in the operation itself a difference was made due to the way the national army was reformed and made to be efficient in the last over 2 and half years.
Commanders of the republican guard, of the national airforce, of the other units all said if the reform was not made the war could have been lost or could have been very costy to win.
Now, there are counterclaims of giving a big role to the Amhara liyu hail. I have nothing agains the liyu hail's deployment but distorting facts on the ground is not helpful for the future of the country, in my view.
Listen just what the guest in the following video is saying:
Commanders of the republican guard, of the national airforce, of the other units all said if the reform was not made the war could have been lost or could have been very costy to win.
Now, there are counterclaims of giving a big role to the Amhara liyu hail. I have nothing agains the liyu hail's deployment but distorting facts on the ground is not helpful for the future of the country, in my view.
Listen just what the guest in the following video is saying:
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Za-Ilmaknun
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
If you don't know then, better shut up and do your homework. Categorical against the Amhara people can never be sold as a knowledge based politics. I never did honestly expect this level of bone chilling hate is buried in your kin hearts and minds. Now that it is spilled out, we shall see what the end game is going to be.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 17:11Za-Ilmaknun,Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 14:51So you are saying, the Amhara Liyu should have sit tight while the TPLF army was massacring the ENDF that you so proudly seem to be supporting ? They should sit idle and let your strategic buddies, the TPLF boys ran thru Woldiya and Gondar to finally give you the liberation that you have been dreaming about?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 05:28Look at how you think.Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 18:59There was also more than a billion birr given/awarded to ENDF....why do you think the reason is?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 17:43negeru indet new?
indet new addis ababa ahun degmo ye lela kilil qalabi yehonaw? lol
Is Addis Ababa now officially a charity organization, or what?
lej ke lej belayu ametem ayqoyu new na, nege degmo ye Oromiyan, ye somaliyan, ye tigrayn na ye lelochinim leyu hailoch yeqelibulin enlalen. lol. I think that is fair enough to ask for.
Ethiopian defense force is the defense force of the country, the people of Ethiopia (including the people of A.A.). Supporting and encouraging them is not only morally, but also legally binding. It is not for any particular group, but for the whole.
The so called liyu hail is a private property of their own kilil. In federalism principle a kilil is an autonomous entitiy, independent of the other kilils. I don't think that Amhara kilil consulted with A. A. when recruiting and building a fighting force of the region that is bigger than what it can even maintain and sustain.
We were questioning the idea that took Ato Eskinder Nega to Bahirdar for the first time outside of A. A., where he claimed to stand for and represent its interest.
Geographically Adama would have been nearer to Addis Ababa than Bahirdar, but blood is thicker than water or so, like they say.
This so called liyu hail seems to me to not even understand what it is doing and what it is up to. It was created based on the provisions of the constitution of the country but then it went out to show in public trying to discard the constitution itself.
Now the country's president showed solidarity with the same entity that was disparaging the country's constitutionally established flag in public by taking photo posture along with and donating money to.
I have said long time ago that there is no need for the so called kilils to build such a massive fighting force that they can't even maintain and now the other regions have to spring in lending their supporting hands to the same force, which is created and maintained to kill and maim the people of the country itself.
Amhara's liyu hail is created to fight against Tigray, Oromiya, Beneshangul, etc. Oromia's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Tigray, Somali, etc.
Tigray's liyu hail is created to fight against Amhara, Oromo, Afar etc.
Telll me if they were created to defend the country against any external adeversaries/aggressors.
The people of Addis Ababa should support and encourage the national defense force of the country, but it needed to send more of the children of the poor families to a school and care for before starting to donate the money to nurture the so called liyu hail of a different kilil.
That much I can say fpr my conscience,
I didn't talk about why Liyu was created..in fact I am one of those who supports the disbanding of such forces. However, the reality is they are there until your kin decides what to do with them. In fact the existence of Liyu Hail is a security threat for the country to continue as one polity. Oromiya has trained Liyu for more than 32 rounds numbering in hundreds of thousands. Such large number of Oromiya Liyu is unable to defeat the few rag tag bandits roaming in Wellega. Oromiya Liyu in fact lend hands to help its soulmate OLF, to massacre innocent lives just because they are perceived to be none Oromos.
If you had carefully listened to your PM, you would have at least agreed with his statements regarding the Amhara Liyu that you are so hasty to denounce. They paid in blood to save the ENDF that you pretend to support at least for now. No amount of money could replace the lives lost but, you are concerned about the few pennies thrown at the Liyu of Amhara.
The People of Addis Ababa are 70% Amhara and 99% Amharic speakers. If they give a few pennies for those who died to save them, it is their responsibility. We all know why the OLF boys are so scared now that their backbone aka TPLF is routed within a few days of engagement.
you can have your liyu if you like but there are some facts that you can't hide any more.
the operation was conducted to enforce the rule of law (ህግ ማስከበር) and the Amara liyu Hail was also deployed to be part of the law enforcement power of the state.
That is good, i have no problem with that, becuase the integrity of the nation itself was in grave danger.
But your Amhara liyu hail didn't understand what it means to enforce the rule of law. if you may claim otherwise, then you have to enlighten your audiences what it means to profane the national flag of the country and wave unconstitutional flag of the same country that they were supposed to enforce its rule of law and defend it.
I don't know how much they were involved in the whole of the operation but the little information i have says that they were deployed to only the border areas to the Amhara region.
If this is true, then their main mission was to avenge and there by reclaim the territory they considered was taken from them.
Then they turned around and claimed themselves about grabbing power at the regional level and start calling themselves deputy Administrator and responsible for the security of the area they forcefully occupied. This was how they were involved in the law enforcement operation, for your Amhara liyu hail.
The operation is... yes to restore and enforce law and order. In doing so, Ethiopia has the obligation to hand over the Badime and other border lands of Eritrea occupied by TPLF for the past 30 years to its rightful owner. Do you have a problem with that? On the other hand I see that you are cheering for Samri Militia to come back to WolQait and Rayya and liquidate what is left of the indigenous community. This is without speaking about the more than 500K people who have been evicted and forced to become migrants so that your preferred people from Adowa and Axum could take over the lands. Like I said, If you don't know please refrain from making stupid claims the ramifications of which are much far reaching than you may imagine. It kind of puzzles me to see how the know it all Oromo elites suddenly are cheering for the cannibals that just become thin air within a few 3 weeks.
You don't bring the issue to be what it is not about. You are now talking about the flag that you hate to even see the color of. We heard a few days ago, the great Oromo General Bacha Debele recounting the story of how OLF flag touting fighters were among the TPLF renegades butchering the ENDF. I am sure you would have preferred to see that flag than the tri-color. It isn't a secret that there is sizable portion of the society that feel excluded by the pentagram flag. You should have tried to ask why instead of labeling them as something because they saved you to speak your spite.
Go find the remnants of Samri from Sudan and bring them to enforce law and order in WolQaiy and Rayya. Or if you think that the Oromo Liyu better serves the purpose, I am for it. Has it ever occurred to you that if the Amhara liyu has to vacate who would be filling the vacuum? Has it occurred to you that Ethiopia may not have enough Federal soldiers to safeguard every little enclave ? Why are you so mad if the People in WolQaiyt and Raya are now electing their true reps until things are cooled down for the legal process to take its course?
I am sure you have heard the flesh eating cannibals of OLF and Gumuz bandits. I am sure that you know who they are targeting and killing for the past so many years. However, your heart goes out to the genocide agents than the real victims. What a shame to live in the same country with your kinds. I for once is looking at the gates....
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DefendTheTruth
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
And you think that pile of garbages make someone knowledgeable?Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 17:47
If you don't know then, better shut up and do your homework. Categorical against the Amhara people can never be sold as a knowledge based politics. I never did honestly expect this level of bone chilling hate is buried in your kin hearts and minds. Now that it is spilled out, we shall see what the end game is going to be.
The operation is... yes to restore and enforce law and order. In doing so, Ethiopia has the obligation to hand over the Badime and other border lands of Eritrea occupied by TPLF for the past 30 years to its rightful owner. Do you have a problem with that? On the other hand I see that you are cheering for Samri Militia to come back to WolQait and Rayya and liquidate what is left of the indigenous community. This is without speaking about the more than 500K people who have been evicted and forced to become migrants so that your preferred people from Adowa and Axum could take over the lands. Like I said, If you don't know please refrain from making stupid claims the ramifications of which are much far reaching than you may imagine. It kind of puzzles me to see how the know it all Oromo elites suddenly are cheering for the cannibals that just become thin air within a few 3 weeks.
You don't bring the issue to be what it is not about. You are now talking about the flag that you hate to even see the color of. We heard a few days ago, the great Oromo General Bacha Debele recounting the story of how OLF flag touting fighters were among the TPLF renegades butchering the ENDF. I am sure you would have preferred to see that flag than the tri-color. It isn't a secret that there is sizable portion of the society that feel excluded by the pentagram flag. You should have tried to ask why instead of labeling them as something because they saved you to speak your spite.
Go find the remnants of Samri from Sudan and bring them to enforce law and order in WolQaiy and Rayya. Or if you think that the Oromo Liyu better serves the purpose, I am for it. Has it ever occurred to you that if the Amhara liyu has to vacate who would be filling the vacuum? Has it occurred to you that Ethiopia may not have enough Federal soldiers to safeguard every little enclave ? Why are you so mad if the People in WolQaiyt and Raya are now electing their true reps until things are cooled down for the legal process to take its course?
I am sure you have heard the flesh eating cannibals of OLF and Gumuz bandits. I am sure that you know who they are targeting and killing for the past so many years. However, your heart goes out to the genocide agents than the real victims. What a shame to live in the same country with your kinds. I for once is looking at the gates....
If yes, then you have got it.
Like TPLF when you are told your failure then try to take a shield behind the mass, which is not normally relevant.
No, I didn't and I don't have any "bone chilling hate" against the Amhara people or any other in the country, because I love my country. It looked to you so because your chauvinism is exploding into the open air just because your Amhara liyu hail has been involved in the recent operation of enforcing the rule of law. You are blinded with that, it should be better for yourself if you open your eyes and see wider and broader.
Otherwise you will not fit into the future Ethiopia based on diversity in unity.
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Za-Ilmaknun
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Re: Addis Ababa City awards 300 Million Birr to Amhara Liyu Hayl
Pile of garbage is what you are scribbling here and there trying to pass as independent. All I see is ... every time seemingly something good is said about Amhara, you are the very first to paint everything Amhara with wide black brush. Perhaps you don't realize that, for it is in your soul and you are programmed to act in such a way. You don't even know the definition of chauvinism let alone to speak about it to others. It ain't too late for you to go back and revisit the jargons coined for you by TPLF and get a good grip of what it is.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 18:21And you think that pile of garbages make someone knowledgeable?Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 17:47
If you don't know then, better shut up and do your homework. Categorical against the Amhara people can never be sold as a knowledge based politics. I never did honestly expect this level of bone chilling hate is buried in your kin hearts and minds. Now that it is spilled out, we shall see what the end game is going to be.
The operation is... yes to restore and enforce law and order. In doing so, Ethiopia has the obligation to hand over the Badime and other border lands of Eritrea occupied by TPLF for the past 30 years to its rightful owner. Do you have a problem with that? On the other hand I see that you are cheering for Samri Militia to come back to WolQait and Rayya and liquidate what is left of the indigenous community. This is without speaking about the more than 500K people who have been evicted and forced to become migrants so that your preferred people from Adowa and Axum could take over the lands. Like I said, If you don't know please refrain from making stupid claims the ramifications of which are much far reaching than you may imagine. It kind of puzzles me to see how the know it all Oromo elites suddenly are cheering for the cannibals that just become thin air within a few 3 weeks.
You don't bring the issue to be what it is not about. You are now talking about the flag that you hate to even see the color of. We heard a few days ago, the great Oromo General Bacha Debele recounting the story of how OLF flag touting fighters were among the TPLF renegades butchering the ENDF. I am sure you would have preferred to see that flag than the tri-color. It isn't a secret that there is sizable portion of the society that feel excluded by the pentagram flag. You should have tried to ask why instead of labeling them as something because they saved you to speak your spite.
Go find the remnants of Samri from Sudan and bring them to enforce law and order in WolQaiy and Rayya. Or if you think that the Oromo Liyu better serves the purpose, I am for it. Has it ever occurred to you that if the Amhara liyu has to vacate who would be filling the vacuum? Has it occurred to you that Ethiopia may not have enough Federal soldiers to safeguard every little enclave ? Why are you so mad if the People in WolQaiyt and Raya are now electing their true reps until things are cooled down for the legal process to take its course?
I am sure you have heard the flesh eating cannibals of OLF and Gumuz bandits. I am sure that you know who they are targeting and killing for the past so many years. However, your heart goes out to the genocide agents than the real victims. What a shame to live in the same country with your kinds. I for once is looking at the gates....
If yes, then you have got it.
Like TPLF when you are told your failure then try to take a shield behind the mass, which is not normally relevant.
No, I didn't and I don't have any "bone chilling hate" against the Amhara people or any other in the country, because I love my country. It looked to you so because your chauvinism is exploding into the open air just because your Amhara liyu hail has been involved in the recent operation of enforcing the rule of law. You are blinded with that, it should be better for yourself if you open your eyes and see wider and broader.
Otherwise you will not fit into the future Ethiopia based on diversity in unity.
As if you believe in diversity, your kinds are never ashamed of pontificating to others. First let your greedy ilk try to respect the very baseline of human quests ....the quest to live life. Your ilk is busy trying to cleanse its fiefdom off of any differences and, you have the nerve to tell us about unity in diversity. This is another of the meme that you vomit without truly grabbing the meaning of it.
It just is baffling for the kegna folks to speak about diversity and unity. Your history and your political adventures are out there for whoever is to judge fairly. In your fiefdom there are more than 15 million none Oromo people who are being beheaded by the sharp blades of OLF and its enablers or being forced to convert to be who they are not. The more than a million Gedeo displaced people are perfect examples of what your "unity in diversity" is all about. We are collecting more corpses every day as we speak while you and your kinds are speaking the hollow words.
When you are out of reason and valid argument, you habitually retreat to labeling of people one way or another. You belong to the past and, your lose will only be more bitter as we move forward with out your God father, TPLF. Now mourn your loss and be prepared to be more open and accommodative of realities than staying in you lala land. The Unity in Diversity is already showcased in other Regions in case you want to see things beyond the façade. Otherwise shut the hell up and leave the room for adults to speak.