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you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by TGAA » 25 Oct 2020, 18:25

You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.Abraham Lincoln .

Abiy has made many calculated moves some of it very successful, such as cornering Weyanes without a single bullet , but the one he kept under his shirtsleeves for so long to Oromize Ethiopia is going to end in disaster. He has used his bait and switch fraud for so long, but now he is utterly naked. He uses these deceptive sales tactics to tranch his Oromoma tribalist in every sector of government position, while we were perplexed by his close confidant ranging from Lema Megersa , Shemelis , Addisu ,and Takele Uma , he kept them, promoted them, and gave them cover. They take an anti-Ethiopian action in public he takes a posture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. This has been done, which became clear as night and day, under Abiy's guidance. Convince and confusion is after all the motto. Here is the danger Abiy has not taken into an account. His disregard and contempt for the Amharas is going to hunt him for good. And he is going to pay for it. At some point, Abiy has to deal with weyanes , either he has to submit to them, which is not going to spear him from their wrath or has to have full support from all Ethiopians to face off Weyane's . His political shenanigans, despite support from all Ethiopians, and specifically from Amharas have already ruffled feathers. People at this point they don't see the difference between Abiy and Daud ebsa. Both wanted to do the same as an imposition of their way of life on other Ethiopians. What Abiy and his bodys doing is the summation of everything under Oromuma, it is not adding every part to use it as a synergy to produce greater value out of the many parts. Abiy who promised us to get us across the finishing line is busy changing the rule of the game and putting his finger on the scale on his tribal ilks in the open. There is not mistaking it. It is for all to see. So for Ethiopians, they need to know that while they thought they have arrived to the land of democracy Abiy and his tribal goons are Moving the goalposts. So What appears to be it ain't so. Need one more time to tighten our belt to make sure Ethiopia is for all not for any particular nationality. If the moggassa crowed are not feeling the rumbling yet they soon will. Patients should not be taken as fear, that is though what all tribalist dictators miss till it is too late.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by EPRDF » 25 Oct 2020, 20:44

Wendime TGAA,

የጃንሆይና የሚኒሊክን ሓውልት ሲያሰራልህ፣ ሙሴ መጣ ሊያሻግረን፣ ከእንግዲህ የዓብይ ኢትዮጵያ እንጂ ወይም ሞት ስትል አልነበር እንዴ፣ በል ያሻግርህ አባ፣ እኛም እንፀልይለሃለን። አይዞኝ እንግዲህ!

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by tolcha » 25 Oct 2020, 21:33

TGAA wrote:
25 Oct 2020, 18:25
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.Abraham Lincoln .

Abiy has made many calculated moves some of it very successful, such as cornering Weyanes without a single bullet , but the one he kept under his shirtsleeves for so long to Oromize Ethiopia is going to end in disaster. He has used his bait and switch fraud for so long, but now he is utterly naked. He uses these deceptive sales tactics to tranch his Oromoma tribalist in every sector of government position, while we were perplexed by his close confidant ranging from Lema Megersa , Shemelis , Addisu ,and Takele Uma , he kept them, promoted them, and gave them cover. They take an anti-Ethiopian action in public he takes a posture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. This has been done, which became clear as night and day, under Abiy's guidance. Convince and confusion is after all the motto. Here is the danger Abiy has not taken into an account. His disregard and contempt for the Amharas is going to hunt him for good. And he is going to pay for it. At some point, Abiy has to deal with weyanes , either he has to submit to them, which is not going to spear him from their wrath or has to have full support from all Ethiopians to face off Weyane's . His political shenanigans, despite support from all Ethiopians, and specifically from Amharas have already ruffled feathers. People at this point they don't see the difference between Abiy and Daud ebsa. Both wanted to do the same as an imposition of their way of life on other Ethiopians. What Abiy and his bodys doing is the summation of everything under Oromuma, it is not adding every part to use it as a synergy to produce greater value out of the many parts. Abiy who promised us to get us across the finishing line is busy changing the rule of the game and putting his finger on the scale on his tribal ilks in the open. There is not mistaking it. It is for all to see. So for Ethiopians, they need to know that while they thought they have arrived to the land of democracy Abiy and his tribal goons are Moving the goalposts. So What appears to be it ain't so. Need one more time to tighten our belt to make sure Ethiopia is for all not for any particular nationality. If the moggassa crowed are not feeling the rumbling yet they soon will. Patients should not be taken as fear, that is though what all tribalist dictators miss till it is too late.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, disgruntled Cadre. Now started feeling the heat. I don't think the guy gets information as to what is going on in that country. His main focus is dreaming how to continue being king and thinking how to prosper by attracting tourism. If he hears, probably after you idiots start crying and some of your inept party members starts to complain. I told you long time ago, the guy is Narcisstic. He doesn't care about your facking pain, just his own delusion. Egnama, Gim le gim abreh Azigim", bilen ke Baburu lay ke woredin senebabitenal!! LOL

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by Noble Amhara » 25 Oct 2020, 21:39

U iq63 cadre of abi r the real reason why Amhara nation is in such a mess

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by Dawi » 25 Oct 2020, 21:53

tolcha wrote:
25 Oct 2020, 21:33
Ha ha ha ha ha ha, disgruntled Cadre. Now started feeling the heat. I don't think the guy gets information as to what is going on in that country. His main focus is dreaming how to continue being king and thinking how to prosper by attracting tourism. If he hears, probably after you idiots start crying and some of your inept party members starts to complain. I told you long time ago, the guy is Narcisstic. He doesn't care about your facking pain, just his own delusion. Egnama, Gim le gim abreh Azigim", bilen ke Baburu lay ke woredin senebabitenal!! LOL
Did you see today's news?

Dr. Abiy has told you that he is not an "incident" oriented leader; he mainly works on development and deals with incident as well. If you look at the latest Seyoum's interview, when it comes to language Abiy shared his personal experience in learning languages in parliament so, don't get out of shape of his support of being bilingual. He is Oromo so he may understand & accept some of the wishes of the "Oromuma" advocates but, we know the hard core ones are fake; they don't believe it themselves as Seyoum pointed out. First, let us see you practice geda yourself; after, bring it to us to buy it! Can you do that? NOT!

Check the following out!


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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by gagi » 25 Oct 2020, 23:47

If PM Abiy is the champion of Orommuma and Amhara surrogate at the same time, he must be the right leader that Ethiopians have awaited for long. He is keeping the right balance in this highly complex multi ethnic society.

PM Abiy is the right person for Ethiopia who has arisen at the right time!

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all to the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by TGAA » 26 Oct 2020, 00:05

Well gagi you only know how champion of Orommuma and Amhara surrogate is the only thing we can aspire as Ethiopan citizens . I know you are Eritrean with a postive look toward Ethiopia, so Can you elaborate if that works for Eritrea, if so to whom Issayas should be a champion and to whom a surrogate, give me an honest answer that you might convince me. I am all ears to hear your advice. What we Ethiopan need is not a champion or a surrogate but a leader who treat all Ethiopan citizens equally under the law and work for Equality and justice regardless of Nationality.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 26 Oct 2020, 04:46

TGAA wrote:
25 Oct 2020, 18:25
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.Abraham Lincoln .

Abiy has made many calculated moves some of it very successful, such as cornering Weyanes without a single bullet , but the one he kept under his shirtsleeves for so long to Oromize Ethiopia is going to end in disaster. He has used his bait and switch fraud for so long, but now he is utterly naked. He uses these deceptive sales tactics to tranch his Oromoma tribalist in every sector of government position, while we were perplexed by his close confidant ranging from Lema Megersa , Shemelis , Addisu ,and Takele Uma , he kept them, promoted them, and gave them cover. They take an anti-Ethiopian action in public he takes a posture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. This has been done, which became clear as night and day, under Abiy's guidance. Convince and confusion is after all the motto. Here is the danger Abiy has not taken into an account. His disregard and contempt for the Amharas is going to hunt him for good. And he is going to pay for it. At some point, Abiy has to deal with weyanes , either he has to submit to them, which is not going to spear him from their wrath or has to have full support from all Ethiopians to face off Weyane's . His political shenanigans, despite support from all Ethiopians, and specifically from Amharas have already ruffled feathers. People at this point they don't see the difference between Abiy and Daud ebsa. Both wanted to do the same as an imposition of their way of life on other Ethiopians. What Abiy and his bodys doing is the summation of everything under Oromuma, it is not adding every part to use it as a synergy to produce greater value out of the many parts. Abiy who promised us to get us across the finishing line is busy changing the rule of the game and putting his finger on the scale on his tribal ilks in the open. There is not mistaking it. It is for all to see. So for Ethiopians, they need to know that while they thought they have arrived to the land of democracy Abiy and his tribal goons are Moving the goalposts. So What appears to be it ain't so. Need one more time to tighten our belt to make sure Ethiopia is for all not for any particular nationality. If the moggassa crowed are not feeling the rumbling yet they soon will. Patients should not be taken as fear, that is though what all tribalist dictators miss till it is too late.
In all of this rambling mumbling or whatever it is, you forget one basic thing, which makes everything of your claim an empty bravado.

Abiy Ahmed is a servant of his party, first and formost. He is not a king, you didn't bring him to power, his party did. If his party says, we have to remove you tomorrow, then it can do it also tomorrow, the members of his party voted him in and they are the ones who can vote him out at the time of their wish. And those people you listed are the members and as such the true actors of the party, not those who are barking at them from a distance.

In all of this mumbling it is clear that you are not cognizant of party politics. Those on the scene do know what it is and that is why they are contented with what he is doing (may be not perfect, but still the better option), while those from distance are barking on the empty space.

The other point here is that you must be from the right field, refusing to accept the fact that Ethiopia is multi-polity (diverse) state, not a singular polity, like you try to tell us all along. It would have been better if you could have wakened up to the true reality.


The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by Noble Amhara » 26 Oct 2020, 05:06

DefendTheTruth wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 04:46
TGAA wrote:
25 Oct 2020, 18:25
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.Abraham Lincoln .

Abiy has made many calculated moves some of it very successful, such as cornering Weyanes without a single bullet , but the one he kept under his shirtsleeves for so long to Oromize Ethiopia is going to end in disaster. He has used his bait and switch fraud for so long, but now he is utterly naked. He uses these deceptive sales tactics to tranch his Oromoma tribalist in every sector of government position, while we were perplexed by his close confidant ranging from Lema Megersa , Shemelis , Addisu ,and Takele Uma , he kept them, promoted them, and gave them cover. They take an anti-Ethiopian action in public he takes a posture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. This has been done, which became clear as night and day, under Abiy's guidance. Convince and confusion is after all the motto. Here is the danger Abiy has not taken into an account. His disregard and contempt for the Amharas is going to hunt him for good. And he is going to pay for it. At some point, Abiy has to deal with weyanes , either he has to submit to them, which is not going to spear him from their wrath or has to have full support from all Ethiopians to face off Weyane's . His political shenanigans, despite support from all Ethiopians, and specifically from Amharas have already ruffled feathers. People at this point they don't see the difference between Abiy and Daud ebsa. Both wanted to do the same as an imposition of their way of life on other Ethiopians. What Abiy and his bodys doing is the summation of everything under Oromuma, it is not adding every part to use it as a synergy to produce greater value out of the many parts. Abiy who promised us to get us across the finishing line is busy changing the rule of the game and putting his finger on the scale on his tribal ilks in the open. There is not mistaking it. It is for all to see. So for Ethiopians, they need to know that while they thought they have arrived to the land of democracy Abiy and his tribal goons are Moving the goalposts. So What appears to be it ain't so. Need one more time to tighten our belt to make sure Ethiopia is for all not for any particular nationality. If the moggassa crowed are not feeling the rumbling yet they soon will. Patients should not be taken as fear, that is though what all tribalist dictators miss till it is too late.
In all of this rambling mumbling or whatever it is, you forget one basic thing, which makes everything of your claim an empty bravado.

Abiy Ahmed is a servant of his party, first and formost. He is not a king, you didn't bring him to power, his party did. If his party says, we have to remove you tomorrow, then it can do it also tomorrow, the members of his party voted him in and they are the ones who can vote him out at the time of their wish. And those people you listed are the members and as such the true actors of the party, not those who are barking at them from a distance.

In all of this mumbling it is clear that you are not cognizant of party politics. Those on the scene do know what it is and that is why they are contented with what he is doing (may be not perfect, but still the better option), while those from distance are barking on the empty space.

The other point here is that you must be from the right field, refusing to accept the fact that Ethiopia is multi-polity (diverse) state, not a singular polity, like you try to tell us all along. It would have been better if you could have wakened up to the true reality.


The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.
I like what you have said but it is easily thrown out of the window guess what ADP (Amhara Democratic Party) Demeke & Gedu) and ODPO (Lemma Mergersa) lead Abiy Ahmed to becoming the Prime Minister in 2018 “Abiymania” year. Everything you have said goes to the garbage when Abiy Ahmed Fired Lemma Megersa the dude who put him to power. This mean PMAA doesn’t serve any Democratic Party system he is a Dictator that fired those who placed him into power. BY THE WAY “ Amhara Democratic Party” lead by Demeke Mekonnen and Gedu Andargachew AREN’T EVEN AMHARA ! They are “ Amhara Genocide/Marginalization Party” now thanks for reading my eye opening paragraph of the failure of 7th Narcissist
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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 26 Oct 2020, 05:11

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 05:06

I like what you have said but it is easily thrown out of the window guess what ADP (Amhara Democratic Party) Demeke & Gedu) and ODPO (Lemma Mergersa) lead Abiy Ahmed to becoming the Prime Minister in 2018 “Abiymania” year. Everything you have said goes to the garbage when Abiy Ahmed Fired Lemma Megersa the dude who put him to powe
NO, Abiy can't fire or dismiss anybody on his own, his party does that. Get that difference into your tinny head, then everything will be clearer.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by Noble Amhara » 26 Oct 2020, 05:22

DefendTheTruth wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 05:11
Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 05:06

I like what you have said but it is easily thrown out of the window guess what ADP (Amhara Democratic Party) Demeke & Gedu) and ODPO (Lemma Mergersa) lead Abiy Ahmed to becoming the Prime Minister in 2018 “Abiymania” year. Everything you have said goes to the garbage when Abiy Ahmed Fired Lemma Megersa the dude who put him to powe
NO, Abiy can't fire or dismiss anybody on his own, his party does that. Get that difference into your tinny head, then everything will be clearer.
What party are you even talking about it’s a one man show with his pagan delusional idolizers ABIY is the leader Demek Gedu are the puppets they serve abiy the other gojies like the Female president has done nothing for the benefit of the country all so called ethnic amharas in arat kilo have served TPLF Extremists for +10 years :shock: the APP “Amhara Prosperity Party” representing 35 Million Amharas is actually “Amhara Genocide/Killing Party” your abiy only visited wollo like a slave master because they don’t have access to information :x it’s clear that country will continue to hit rock bottom thanks to Former TPLF donkeys in arat kilo

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 26 Oct 2020, 07:15

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 05:22

What party are you even talking about it’s a one man show with his pagan delusional idolizers ABIY is the leader Demek Gedu are the puppets they serve abiy the other gojies like the Female president has done nothing for the benefit of the country all so called ethnic amharas in arat kilo have served TPLF Extremists for +10 years :shock: the APP “Amhara Prosperity Party” representing 35 Million Amharas is actually “Amhara Genocide/Killing Party” your abiy only visited wollo like a slave master because they don’t have access to information :x it’s clear that country will continue to hit rock bottom thanks to Former TPLF donkeys in arat kilo
One more lecture to the tinny head over your shoulder, which is so resistant that you can't get something in even if you may try the whole day.

Anyway, in the case of your complain here, then complain about those who failed to do their part of the job instead of whinning about Dr. Abiy the whole day and night all over the week and all over the year, which doesn't even make sense.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by TGAA » 26 Oct 2020, 22:02

DefendTheTruth wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 04:46
TGAA wrote:
25 Oct 2020, 18:25
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.Abraham Lincoln .

Abiy has made many calculated moves some of it very successful, such as cornering Weyanes without a single bullet , but the one he kept under his shirtsleeves for so long to Oromize Ethiopia is going to end in disaster. He has used his bait and switch fraud for so long, but now he is utterly naked. He uses these deceptive sales tactics to tranch his Oromoma tribalist in every sector of government position, while we were perplexed by his close confidant ranging from Lema Megersa , Shemelis , Addisu ,and Takele Uma , he kept them, promoted them, and gave them cover. They take an anti-Ethiopian action in public he takes a posture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. This has been done, which became clear as night and day, under Abiy's guidance. Convince and confusion is after all the motto. Here is the danger Abiy has not taken into an account. His disregard and contempt for the Amharas is going to hunt him for good. And he is going to pay for it. At some point, Abiy has to deal with weyanes , either he has to submit to them, which is not going to spear him from their wrath or has to have full support from all Ethiopians to face off Weyane's . His political shenanigans, despite support from all Ethiopians, and specifically from Amharas have already ruffled feathers. People at this point they don't see the difference between Abiy and Daud ebsa. Both wanted to do the same as an imposition of their way of life on other Ethiopians. What Abiy and his bodys doing is the summation of everything under Oromuma, it is not adding every part to use it as a synergy to produce greater value out of the many parts. Abiy who promised us to get us across the finishing line is busy changing the rule of the game and putting his finger on the scale on his tribal ilks in the open. There is not mistaking it. It is for all to see. So for Ethiopians, they need to know that while they thought they have arrived to the land of democracy Abiy and his tribal goons are Moving the goalposts. So What appears to be it ain't so. Need one more time to tighten our belt to make sure Ethiopia is for all not for any particular nationality. If the moggassa crowed are not feeling the rumbling yet they soon will. Patients should not be taken as fear, that is though what all tribalist dictators miss till it is too late.
In all of this rambling mumbling or whatever it is, you forget one basic thing, which makes everything of your claim an empty bravado.

Abiy Ahmed is a servant of his party, first and formost. He is not a king, you didn't bring him to power, his party did. If his party says, we have to remove you tomorrow, then it can do it also tomorrow, the members of his party voted him in and they are the ones who can vote him out at the time of their wish. And those people you listed are the members and as such the true actors of the party, not those who are barking at them from a distance.

In all of this mumbling it is clear that you are not cognizant of party politics. Those on the scene do know what it is and that is why they are contented with what he is doing (may be not perfect, but still the better option), while those from distance are barking on the empty space.

The other point here is that you must be from the right field, refusing to accept the fact that Ethiopia is multi-polity (diverse) state, not a singular polity, like you try to tell us all along. It would have been better if you could have wakened up to the true reality.


The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.
Though represented by the party as the head of the state he is the servant of the people. Weyanes were “the servant of the so-called party” but we know full well what the word “servants” entails. Had Weyans not faced a certain disaster because of the popular uprising, they would not have left their power from Arat Kilo. Sure, Abiy also is not going to leave his power till he can’t not anymore, that is a given. No leader has had as much a reservoir of goodwill from Ethiopian people as Abiy has, but he has blown it. So We don’t need to make an abstract out of the disaster we have faced as a country for the past two years.
Abiy’s fluffy speeches and his beatification projects are impressive but those are secondary issues. He need to get his hand dirty in Administrating the country. To achieve that he doesn’t need to do anything but use the power given to him as Prime minster of Ethiopian under Weyane’s constitution. He has been incapable of doing that , that is an incompetence of the highest order. In the country where there are thousands upon thousands of militia , police and the defense forces he lets people get killed on daily bases, these are places where a threat of ethnic cleansing known for the government officials or places where ethnic cleansing already had taken place. The only consoling Abiy has been able to do it there were more of us killed than the other, so some how that makes it palatable ; what makes it worst is that the whole world knows he is not telling the truth.
Just to correct your characterization of me I am not right of left I am in the center. I am cognizant of the fact that we live in very diverse society and we need to accommodate each other by relaying on independent democratic institution that are not beholden to this or that particular national group. The hope was that , as he promised publicly , he will get us there. What a promise? His Oromuma armies ranging from Takele Uma to Shimels are working to make that reality . This unelected officals who are given the position they have gotten because of Abiy are passing new laws , give public property to their bodies in the name of dispossessed farmers, they allocate tax revenues as if its their own money . Our new bosses concoct weyane type of kangaroo court in a vary slappy way, and they think that people going to fall for that. Takele Uma is promoted instead of being in prison, while the people who exposed him are in prison in trump up charges.
“The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.”
You have capsulated the current Ethiopian political situation very nicely. However, you are putting the cart before the horse. The way you withstand any external threat national security or otherwise is by keeping and strengthening the unity of Ethiopians. That is how Ethiopians were able to survive during colonization onslaught. This unity can be achieved when the majority stockholder feel that their vital interests are protected and honored. At Abiy’s Ethiopia that is not being the case, remotely. For you to accuse us as a barking dogs or to accuse us of being diversionary is missing the forest for a tree. What we are saying that don’t weaken us by not treating us equally and by not being equally concerned about our safety . What Abiy’s nonchalant attitude makes it clear is that he lost his moral compass , the sooner he find it the better for all of US.

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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 27 Oct 2020, 15:42

TGAA wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 22:02

Though represented by the party as the head of the state he is the servant of the people. Weyanes were “the servant of the so-called party” but we know full well what the word “servants” entails. Had Weyans not faced a certain disaster because of the popular uprising, they would not have left their power from Arat Kilo. Sure, Abiy also is not going to leave his power till he can’t not anymore, that is a given. No leader has had as much a reservoir of goodwill from Ethiopian people as Abiy has, but he has blown it. So We don’t need to make an abstract out of the disaster we have faced as a country for the past two years.
Abiy’s fluffy speeches and his beatification projects are impressive but those are secondary issues. He need to get his hand dirty in Administrating the country. To achieve that he doesn’t need to do anything but use the power given to him as Prime minster of Ethiopian under Weyane’s constitution. He has been incapable of doing that , that is an incompetence of the highest order. In the country where there are thousands upon thousands of militia , police and the defense forces he lets people get killed on daily bases, these are places where a threat of ethnic cleansing known for the government officials or places where ethnic cleansing already had taken place. The only consoling Abiy has been able to do it there were more of us killed than the other, so some how that makes it palatable ; what makes it worst is that the whole world knows he is not telling the truth.
Just to correct your characterization of me I am not right of left I am in the center. I am cognizant of the fact that we live in very diverse society and we need to accommodate each other by relaying on independent democratic institution that are not beholden to this or that particular national group. The hope was that , as he promised publicly , he will get us there. What a promise? His Oromuma armies ranging from Takele Uma to Shimels are working to make that reality . This unelected officals who are given the position they have gotten because of Abiy are passing new laws , give public property to their bodies in the name of dispossessed farmers, they allocate tax revenues as if its their own money . Our new bosses concoct weyane type of kangaroo court in a vary slappy way, and they think that people going to fall for that. Takele Uma is promoted instead of being in prison, while the people who exposed him are in prison in trump up charges.
“The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.”
You have capsulated the current Ethiopian political situation very nicely. However, you are putting the cart before the horse. The way you withstand any external threat national security or otherwise is by keeping and strengthening the unity of Ethiopians. That is how Ethiopians were able to survive during colonization onslaught. This unity can be achieved when the majority stockholder feel that their vital interests are protected and honored. At Abiy’s Ethiopia that is not being the case, remotely. For you to accuse us as a barking dogs or to accuse us of being diversionary is missing the forest for a tree. What we are saying that don’t weaken us by not treating us equally and by not being equally concerned about our safety . What Abiy’s nonchalant attitude makes it clear is that he lost his moral compass , the sooner he find it the better for all of US.
Yes, he is servant of the people, but it shouldn't be forgotten the mandate to serve the people was bestowed on him by the good will of his party. If the party revokes that good will, then he has no other choice than to relinquish his power and pass it to someone else. I don't think you miss this simple logic, it is rather an intentional will to make propaganda at all possible junctures in your camp.

You are entitled to your propaganda, my point here is just to remind you that the propaganda will only harm the country, first and foremost.

Talking of party politics, let alone his own party, former OPDO, current EPP, even if its Amhara counterpart ANDM says, we no more cooperate with you and we will withdraw our allegiance, then PM Abiy has no more a means to remain the PM. This is as simple as that.

Woyane lost this simple endorsement and was sent to its enclave in Mekele and now is reduced to a tooth less tiger issuing endless statements from there. The moment the party says the same to the current PM that will be the same procedure all over again.

But there is one thing that you or any layman shouldn't forget in whole of his/her life: people make decisions based on their own interests, not based on the interest of others.

OPDO or ANDEM has got their own respective interests as political actors to have endorsed the current set up in the country. And those actors are in the likes of the people you listed in your posts here and elsewhere.

In my view they served you in offering you the likes of PM Abiy Ahmed but you reciprocated in saying "you are criminals" as thank you for their offer.

I remember what Chairman Mengistu once said: ደሞ ለዚህ ወርቅ ቢያነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የምል ህዝብ። which I remembered last time after I heard from some of the day's "analysts" of the ubiquitous tv channels saying "he should tell us where he has got the money to build the Entoto Park" after the PM said, I used the expenditure for the project money donated to me from external sources and the parliament is not entitled to aduit this money because the money is not from government Koffer (you can't audit, what you have not allocated, a simple logic in my view).

Let me tell you one thing, I will not blame the PM if he too may going to say one day: "ደሞ ለዚህ ወርቅ ቢያነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የምል ህዝብ", I expected respectable citizens should learn about how to say sometimes also "thank you for showing us the way, PM" as simple as such, even when you have to keep tight eye on how he is doing his job for the country.

I think now Chairman Mengist did also have some good vision for his country and its people at one time in his leadership time, when he endorsed the following motivational song during his reign, I assume.

We all know how it ended finally and what befallen us afterwards. Don't tell me it is woyane, no, it was us who supported and clapped our hands left and right (propaganda was our tool those days as it is today) and betrayed Mengistu saying you are a dictator, we prefer the rebels to come in and kick us in the ar$ee like we have seen it well afterwards.

No one can guarantee you the fate of our nation would be any different if the current transition may got aborted one more time, we will be left in a perpetual misery for eternity, I am afraid to say but that is the truth in my view.

ለትንኮሳ በጣም ጎበዞች ነን።


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Re: you cannot fool all the people all the time, Mr Abiy!

Post by TGAA » 28 Oct 2020, 21:17

DefendTheTruth wrote:
27 Oct 2020, 15:42
TGAA wrote:
26 Oct 2020, 22:02

Though represented by the party as the head of the state he is the servant of the people. Weyanes were “the servant of the so-called party” but we know full well what the word “servants” entails. Had Weyans not faced a certain disaster because of the popular uprising, they would not have left their power from Arat Kilo. Sure, Abiy also is not going to leave his power till he can’t not anymore, that is a given. No leader has had as much a reservoir of goodwill from Ethiopian people as Abiy has, but he has blown it. So We don’t need to make an abstract out of the disaster we have faced as a country for the past two years.
Abiy’s fluffy speeches and his beatification projects are impressive but those are secondary issues. He need to get his hand dirty in Administrating the country. To achieve that he doesn’t need to do anything but use the power given to him as Prime minster of Ethiopian under Weyane’s constitution. He has been incapable of doing that , that is an incompetence of the highest order. In the country where there are thousands upon thousands of militia , police and the defense forces he lets people get killed on daily bases, these are places where a threat of ethnic cleansing known for the government officials or places where ethnic cleansing already had taken place. The only consoling Abiy has been able to do it there were more of us killed than the other, so some how that makes it palatable ; what makes it worst is that the whole world knows he is not telling the truth.
Just to correct your characterization of me I am not right of left I am in the center. I am cognizant of the fact that we live in very diverse society and we need to accommodate each other by relaying on independent democratic institution that are not beholden to this or that particular national group. The hope was that , as he promised publicly , he will get us there. What a promise? His Oromuma armies ranging from Takele Uma to Shimels are working to make that reality . This unelected officals who are given the position they have gotten because of Abiy are passing new laws , give public property to their bodies in the name of dispossessed farmers, they allocate tax revenues as if its their own money . Our new bosses concoct weyane type of kangaroo court in a vary slappy way, and they think that people going to fall for that. Takele Uma is promoted instead of being in prison, while the people who exposed him are in prison in trump up charges.
“The major challenge we face right now is not externally induced but internally by the likes of yourself, even in the face a major national security threat, you still want to divert the attention of the people from focusing on how to empower themselves and be self-reliant. Unfortunate.”
You have capsulated the current Ethiopian political situation very nicely. However, you are putting the cart before the horse. The way you withstand any external threat national security or otherwise is by keeping and strengthening the unity of Ethiopians. That is how Ethiopians were able to survive during colonization onslaught. This unity can be achieved when the majority stockholder feel that their vital interests are protected and honored. At Abiy’s Ethiopia that is not being the case, remotely. For you to accuse us as a barking dogs or to accuse us of being diversionary is missing the forest for a tree. What we are saying that don’t weaken us by not treating us equally and by not being equally concerned about our safety . What Abiy’s nonchalant attitude makes it clear is that he lost his moral compass , the sooner he find it the better for all of US.
Yes, he is servant of the people, but it shouldn't be forgotten the mandate to serve the people was bestowed on him by the good will of his party. If the party revokes that good will, then he has no other choice than to relinquish his power and pass it to someone else. I don't think you miss this simple logic, it is rather an intentional will to make propaganda at all possible junctures in your camp.

You are entitled to your propaganda, my point here is just to remind you that the propaganda will only harm the country, first and foremost.

Talking of party politics, let alone his own party, former OPDO, current EPP, even if its Amhara counterpart ANDM says, we no more cooperate with you and we will withdraw our allegiance, then PM Abiy has no more a means to remain the PM. This is as simple as that.

Woyane lost this simple endorsement and was sent to its enclave in Mekele and now is reduced to a tooth less tiger issuing endless statements from there. The moment the party says the same to the current PM that will be the same procedure all over again.

But there is one thing that you or any layman shouldn't forget in whole of his/her life: people make decisions based on their own interests, not based on the interest of others.

OPDO or ANDEM has got their own respective interests as political actors to have endorsed the current set up in the country. And those actors are in the likes of the people you listed in your posts here and elsewhere.

In my view they served you in offering you the likes of PM Abiy Ahmed but you reciprocated in saying "you are criminals" as thank you for their offer.

I remember what Chairman Mengistu once said: ደሞ ለዚህ ወርቅ ቢያነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የምል ህዝብ። which I remembered last time after I heard from some of the day's "analysts" of the ubiquitous tv channels saying "he should tell us where he has got the money to build the Entoto Park" after the PM said, I used the expenditure for the project money donated to me from external sources and the parliament is not entitled to aduit this money because the money is not from government Koffer (you can't audit, what you have not allocated, a simple logic in my view).

Let me tell you one thing, I will not blame the PM if he too may going to say one day: "ደሞ ለዚህ ወርቅ ቢያነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የምል ህዝብ", I expected respectable citizens should learn about how to say sometimes also "thank you for showing us the way, PM" as simple as such, even when you have to keep tight eye on how he is doing his job for the country.

I think now Chairman Mengist did also have some good vision for his country and its people at one time in his leadership time, when he endorsed the following motivational song during his reign, I assume.

We all know how it ended finally and what befallen us afterwards. Don't tell me it is woyane, no, it was us who supported and clapped our hands left and right (propaganda was our tool those days as it is today) and betrayed Mengistu saying you are a dictator, we prefer the rebels to come in and kick us in the ar$ee like we have seen it well afterwards.

No one can guarantee you the fate of our nation would be any different if the current transition may got aborted one more time, we will be left in a perpetual misery for eternity, I am afraid to say but that is the truth in my view.

ለትንኮሳ በጣም ጎበዞች ነን።

Let us not get distracted by unnecessary adjectives and name callings. Both of us want what is best for our country and people. If you say I am propagating something be specific so that I can reexamine what I am propagating about. It could be I have a blind spot for something that is obvious to you. To start with, I am really befuddled that the narcissist dictator Mengestu’s “ደሞ ለዚህ ወርቅ ያነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የምል ህዝብ” contemptuous statement you thought is worthy of mentioning it, let alone to be considered seriously. The end result of his 17 years of stupid governance and his wanton disregard for human life speaks for itself. With all his pseudo nationalistic furvert he single-handedly handover Ethiopia on a silver platter to its deadly enemy Weyane. He decimated the most up-standing Ethiopians because they stood for Ethiopia, not for his personal glory. Since he had the Hammer everything looked like a nail for him. On his watch, first-rate military generals was given a short order by his loyal cadres. So to blame the Ethiopian people for Mengestu's failure is puzzling. Weyanes succeeded because Mengestu failed to lead the Ethiopian people . Weyanes simply could have made Ethiopia another Yougoslavia the day they arrived in Addis, but soon enough weyanes understood that they can disjoin the country and can loot the whole country at their pleasure, mercilessly. That is exactly what they did for 27 years by making enemies out of brothers. Ethiopia has more than 55 billion in debt more than 33 billion of it deposited back in western financial institutions by weyane la bandas. This is a country we inherited from weyane, with a tone of problems. Those who promised to lead us were the same people who were instruments of oppression for weyanes. Granted few of them struggled from within to undo the weyanes system and we believed them and we followed them. What we are saying to them is that you can't use the same narrow tribal poison to heal Ethiopia. By nepotism, by favoring your own tribe, by stealing, giving preferential treatment by assigning government positions etc. Some of the statements coming out of ethno nationalist Oromo leaders mouth plus thier actions are out right ethinoaparthid both in form and content. ( you will say that just a propaganda piece) you are a true beliver so I understand why you will say somthing like that, but you don’t have an answer to any of the question raised by the public.
I do understand what you are saying about party politics. However, we know that had these so called EPDRF servals remained under firm weyanes tutelage, they would have ended up consumed by the popular uprising. So they promise us to depart from the old why of doing things. They promised to bring the rule of law , democracy , and national honor to all of us. We all supported them . We also knew the road ahead is going to bumpy, so we gave them leeway to introduce reforms. However, they decidedly have gotten busied themselves doing the same practices that we struggled to get rid of. I am not going to enumerate those here, cause I never read a single line critical of Abiy’s administration by you. You always line up justification to any kind of malfunction coming out this administration. , but we all need to note that the ethnic cleansing issue is going to undo this government and the country if it is not curtailed soon .
Your closing phrase ለትንኮሳ በጣም ጎበዞች ነን remind me of Battered wife syndrome . Since they are battered so often they start to believe that it is their fault why their husband is abusing them. They start to reason that “ had I not irritate him he wouldn’t have physically abuse me “ So according to you raising the issue of a legit public concern became “ትንኮሳ”? That kind of thinking is an invitation for dictatorship. while living enjoying the fruits western democracy in the west for you to think of your people aspiration at this low level is not healthy way of thinking. One more thing , I did support Abiy and I recognize what he has been able to accomplish in the past two years, not recognizing that is impossible, however, the pendulum is tilting not even to a dictatorship but towards a civil war. That is the worst thing the leader of a country can bring up on his people. You know dictatorship is a luxury when you have an anarchy . Hope he will muster the wisdom to choose the right path before it is to late.
“It is not the ship so much as the skillful sailing that assures the prosperous voyage”

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