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[Horus]

አሁን ለምንድን ነው የፖለቲካው አየር ላይ ድራማ የጦዘው? 110 ሚሊዮን ህዝብ ቤቱ ውስጥ ታጉሮ ሚዲያ ላይ ስላፈጠጠ ነው፣ በቃ! ሌላ ምን አዲስ ነገር አለ?

ወያኔ 27 አመት ተጨማልቃ ወደ መጣችበት ሸሽታለች ።

እኔ እንደ ልደቱ ያለ ግርማ ሞገስ የነሳው ለፍላፊ እንኳን አገር ሊመራ ፓርላማ ውስጥ እንኳን ድራማው ትውከት ይስባል ።

ጃዋር እንኳን ኢትዮጵያን ሊመራ ኦሮሞን ያመሰ ማይክሮ ፎን

ሌላው ቀርቶ በመጠኑ እወዳት የነበርች ማነች በዳኔ በለፈለፈች ከልደቱ ጋር ረከሰች

[Horus]

ወይ ለምን እንደዚች አመሪካዊት የራሳቸው የጦር ዘብ አይገዙም !!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/armed-activi ... 00180.html

[Horus]

ጃዋርና ልደቱ አንድ የሚያደርጋቸው የአቢይ ጥላቻ እንጂ ያላማ አንድነት አይደለም ፣ ለዚህ ነው ሚወድቁት ። የጃዋር ግብ ያማራ ግብ አይደለም ። የሊደቱ ግብ የኦሮሞ ግብ አይደለም ። ለዚህ ነው ነገሩ ሁሉ ድራማ የሚሆነው !!

[Sam Ebalalehu]

I beg to differ Horus. It is not their hate of Abiy that groomed their friendship. In fact, They have no friendship per se. The two are collaborating on the mission given to them. Remember, a few months ago when the TPLF politicians sensed the political incompatibility between Abiy and Jawar, their cyber cadres took time to introduce Jawar to Ethiopians. We were told he was a genius. He is the future leader. He is the one who saves Ethiopia from disintegrating. Why they chose to build up a guy who played his part to their downfall ? Because their only hope to come to power is if tribal politics persists. At least for a few weeks they bet on the "savior" Jawar. What about Lidetu ? I am still not convinced TPLF "created" the political Lidetu. But I am convinced they have something on him. They are good at detecting weaknesses. They probably had known his opportunist nature before most of us did. They had something on him. Remember again Abiy had been only a few months in office when Lidetu went to Mekele to call him practically an opportunist, a man who seemed to have believed the politics of his party and the opposition parties as well. lidetu seemed to say he hated the tribal politics of TPLF. Does anyone expect him being in Mekele to share the TPLF's mourning when Abiy was in office only a few months ? Not a single sane person. Yes, they had something on him. I do not want to share it in social media , but I have a reasonable guess why LIdetu chose to be TPLF's foot soldier.
Why he is fixated on Isayes now ? Because the TPLF political elites are fixated on Isayes now.

[Dawi]

Remember again Abiy had been only a few months in office when Lidetu went to Mekele to call him practically an opportunist, a man who seemed to have believed the politics of his party and the opposition parties as well. lidetu seemed to say he hated the tribal politics of TPLF. Does anyone expect him being in Mekele to share the TPLF's mourning when Abiy was in office only a few months ? Not a single sane person. Yes, they had something on him.

Sam the man!

I am not an insider but, Lidetu, as he pointed out, will go anywhere invited; that to me is considered competency. He can defend his politics anywhere that is. Calling Dr. Abiy "opportunist" is not new; many with different views call him that. It's like the saying he's a "SOB" but, our "SOB"! . Whose "opportunist" is Abiy?

"sane"? I think you've "safe" in your mind instead? Those who play "safe" are you, Horus and I dude! Ledetu is "insane" for taking/playing a different path alright!

At least, let us respect that.

I buy Tedros's view on Ledetu. He makes a lot of sense.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

Dawi , you are arguing the point that is not existing. He has the right to argue his point of view. But to blame a prime minister who is in office a couple of months as an opportunist says more about Leditu than Abiy. In fact, he got a loud applause for that line. The issue is not why he went to Mekele. The issue is why he tailored his speech to appease a partisan crowd. Dawi, you probably are slogan worshipper. For that Lidetu feeds you good. However governing and throwing slogans tailored to particular groups are different . Abiy is the leader of Ethiopia. He has no the luxury of throwing feel good feelings to sectarian groups. As for your implicit suggestion that I might be an insider more than you, You got it absolutely wrong. I am absolutely certain the opposite is true, although the "insider" concept I have is different than of yours.

[Horus]

San -

No, I was not saying that Jawar and Lidetu are friends. I was simply stating that they are a case of two actors with different ends sharing common means. I am sure you more knowledgeable about the motives of Lidetu than I. In principle, Lidetu can only have one or more of these 4 motives - power, money, safety, and/or scandal driving his association with TPLF.

He may be associating himself with TPLF for some sort of power backing, power base or political support. He may be doing it for his business interests or for some kind of financial support from the cash rich TPLF. He may be doing it for fear of some kind threat he expects from TPLF or even as a security from a threat from Abiye. Lastly, he might be behaving the way he does for fear of exposure of some kompromat in the hands of TPLF. I am sure there could exist other deep motives.

In my view, the simplest explanation is this maxim: If a person can't do what he wants to do, then he will do what he can do . What he wants to do is to become a political somebody which he couldn't. But he can always joins this or that side to generate drama and self-fulfill himself. This is my take.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

Horus, you put it well when you write Lidetu and Jawar “ are a case of two actors with different ends sharing common means.” But I do think opportunist describes Lidetu best wether he is gravitated towards TPLF because of fear, power, money or any other thing. He always calculates the political wind, and tries not to be blown away by it. When Abiy came to power he and Berket Simon made a failing political calculation. They thought Abiy would not last long. I believe Berket signed his one way ticket to prison when he attended the Mekele conference. I am not saying he is an honest man wrongly accused. But I am saying there were many corrupt officials, and he would not have been singled out. Lidetu as well signed his political irrelevance when he attended the Mekele conference because Ethiopians heard naked opportunism in his presentation. As his political it relevance deepens, Lidetu chooses to hold on any conspiracy theory that he believes hurts Abiy politically.
I am not saying any politician should be immune from criticism, including Abiy. When he veers away from the right course, it is the duty of every Ethiopian to express their dislike. But every criticism should be based to further the interest of Ethiopia and Ethiopians.

[TGAA]

The way I look at it, Ledetu name has been soiled because of his actions. All politicians have a shortcoming. Anyone who is involved in politics can not have a clear political history that is not blemished by mistake. Politicians make mistake of different kinds, some make the wrong decision without having all facts, some say without much thought, Some make unwise decisions that they come to regrate later on. Ledetua is a different breed altogether. He was able to miraculously avoid imprisonment by vindictive weyanes for 27 years. Not only he avoided jail but he also was able to prosper. All who opposed Weyanes -- not only their property even their relative's property was targeted and appropriated or put out of business by Weyanes, to inflict maximum pain. Weyan's used Ledetu to showcase that opposition political parties were allowed to compete "in weyan's democratic Ethiopia" He always played that role with fineness. He was as opposition leader just the reporter was the weyanes version of the free press. Ledetu is a politically compromised man. That why he always ends up on the same side of weyanes.. He is crafty with his words, but you don't find a scintilla of difference between weyanes and him .

[banebris2013]

What about considering the case a of Jawar and Lidetu as part of exercising their democratic right? Why is the debate always focus on personalities than the content from them? How long it will take for Ethiopian to stop wasting time on individuals and start debating on content? Did anyone take in to account the two are representing a legally registered party?
If we really want democracy to have a root in Ethiopia, we all have the responsibility to promote democratic values with a mentality of tolerance.

[TGAA]

The way I look at it, Ledetu name has been soiled because of his actions. All politicians have a shortcoming. Anyone who is involved in politics can not have a clear political history that is not blemished by mistake. Politicians make mistake of different kinds, some make the wrong decision without having all facts, some say without much thought, Some make unwise decisions that they come to regrate later on. Ledetua is a different breed altogether. He was able to miraculously avoid imprisonment by vindictive weyanes for 27 years. Not only he avoided jail but he also was able to prosper. All who opposed Weyanes -- not only their property even their relative's property was targeted and appropriated or put out of business by Weyanes, to inflict maximum pain. Weyan's used Ledetu to showcase that opposition political parties were allowed to compete "in weyan's democratic Ethiopia" He always played that role with fineness. He was as opposition leader just the reporter was the weyanes version of the free press. Ledetu is a politically compromised man. That why he always ends up on the same side of weyanes.. He is crafty with his words, but you don't find a scintilla of difference between weyanes and him .