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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Selam/ » 31 Aug 2022, 19:57

I heard someone else on ER say that too. Good job for blurring the the rhetoric gab between Amhara extremists and woyane thugs! :lol:

sarcasm wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 19:44
"ይሄ ጦርነት የአማራና የትግራይ ሕዝቦች ጦርነት አይደለም። ይሄ ስርዓት የጋራ ጠላት ነው።" የትግራይ ሰራዊት ዋና አዛዥ ታጋይ ታደሰ ወረደ የሰጡት ጋዜጣዊ መግልጫ


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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Meleket » 02 Sep 2022, 11:01

ወዳጄ Abere ለጨዋታና ለውይይት ያህል ነው፡ :mrgreen: ታድያ እነዚህ እላይ በአርእስትህ የጠቀስካቸው ኣካላት ምንም የሚያገናቸው የጋራ እሴት የላቸውም ማለት ነውን? ኢትዮጵያዊነታቸው ኣያገናኛቸውምን? ደግሞስ ከአማራውና ከወያኔው ኣብራክ የሚወለዱ ኣካላት የሉምን? እንደኛ እንደ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች ኣተያዪ፡ ኣማሮችና ወያኔዎች ኢትዮጵያዊነት የሚያገናኛቸው ይመስለናል። ለዚያም ነበር ባንድ ወቅት ወያኖች በመሩት በኤርትራ ላይ በተደረገ ወረራ ወቅት፡ ጥቂት የማይባሉ ኣማሮችና ወዘተዎች ተሳትፈው የነበረው፡ ያውም ፈንጂ ረጋጭ ሆነው።

ለመሆኑ "ኢትዮጵያዊነት" ማለት ምን ማለት ነው ብሎ የሚጠይቅ ቢነሳ፡ ምን ኣይነት መልስ ይሆን እዚህ ለመረጃ ታዳሚ የሚቀርበው። የነ Axumezana ኢትዮጵያዊነት " 'የእንግዴ ልጅ' ኢትዮጵያዊነት" መሆኑን መቼም ኣውቀናል። https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 7#p1247057
:mrgreen:
Abere wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 10:30
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Meleket/መለከት/,

በሂሳብ ንድፈ ሃሳብ ስለስብስብ አይነቶች እና ተዛምዶ ስንማር disjoint set የሚባል ነገር አለ። ሁለቱ ስብስቦች (sets) ሆድ እና ጀርባ ብቻ ሳይሆኑ ምንም ነገር አንድ ነገር የማያገናኛቸው አይነቶች - የሁለት የተለያዩ ዐለማት በምንም የማይገናኙ ጉዳዮች:: ይህን ያልኩበት ምክንያት በፓለቲካው አለም ቢሆንም እንድህ አይነት አለ። ለምሳሌ በሂትለር የሚመራው የጀርመኑ ናዚ አንድ የታሪክ ተሞክሮ ነው። ወያኔ ናዚ ነው ደብረጽዮን ሂትለር ነው። እንደዚህ አይነቱን በውይይት ሳይሆን በጥይት ነው የምትፈታው። የተግባር ሰው እወዳለሁ፤ የወሬ ሰው አልወድም - ለዚህ ነው አብይ አህመድ 4 አመት በወሬ ስለአስፈጅን ደግመን እህ እያለን ጆሮችንን ከፍተን አንጋጠን አናዳምጥ የምለው። It is better to learn from the success stories of others, genocide of Jew people was stopped when Nazi was defeated. So will the genocide of Amhara will stop when Woyane is eliminated from the surface of earth. Nothing short of this is a solution to Ethiopia. And the Amhara people should focus on this bigger picture

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Abere » 02 Sep 2022, 11:22

ይህን ልዩነት ለማብራራት ያህል የጀርመን ናዚ እና መሪውን ሂትለርን እንደ ምሳሌ ተጠቅሚያለሁ። የናዚ ድርጅት ከተደመሰሰ ሂትለርም ከተወገደ በኋላ እኮ ጀርመኖች እንደ አውሮፓዊያን የአውሮፓ ህበረት ሁነዋል። ዛሬ ጀርመን ዋና የአውሮፓ ህብረት ተዋናይ አገር ነች። ሁለት የማይገናኙት አለማት የወያኔ አለም የተለየ አለም መሆኑን ነው። የትግራይ ህዝብ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው - ከወያኔዋ የቅዠት አለም ባትቶ ነቅቶ ከተነሳ።

Meleket wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 11:01
ወዳጄ Abere ለጨዋታና ለውይይት ያህል ነው፡ :mrgreen: ታድያ እነዚህ እላይ በአርእስትህ የጠቀስካቸው ኣካላት ምንም የሚያገናቸው የጋራ እሴት የላቸውም ማለት ነውን? ኢትዮጵያዊነታቸው ኣያገናኛቸውምን? ደግሞስ ከአማራውና ከወያኔው ኣብራክ የሚወለዱ ኣካላት የሉምን? እንደኛ እንደ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች ኣተያዪ፡ ኣማሮችና ወያኔዎች ኢትዮጵያዊነት የሚያገናኛቸው ይመስለናል። ለዚያም ነበር ባንድ ወቅት ወያኖች በመሩት በኤርትራ ላይ በተደረገ ወረራ ወቅት፡ ጥቂት የማይባሉ ኣማሮችና ወዘተዎች ተሳትፈው የነበረው፡ ያውም ፈንጂ ረጋጭ ሆነው።

ለመሆኑ "ኢትዮጵያዊነት" ማለት ምን ማለት ነው ብሎ የሚጠይቅ ቢነሳ፡ ምን ኣይነት መልስ ይሆን እዚህ ለመረጃ ታዳሚ የሚቀርበው። የነ Axumezana ኢትዮጵያዊነት " 'የእንግዴ ልጅ' ኢትዮጵያዊነት" መሆኑን መቼም ኣውቀናል። https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 7#p1247057
:mrgreen:
Abere wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 10:30
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Meleket/መለከት/,

በሂሳብ ንድፈ ሃሳብ ስለስብስብ አይነቶች እና ተዛምዶ ስንማር disjoint set የሚባል ነገር አለ። ሁለቱ ስብስቦች (sets) ሆድ እና ጀርባ ብቻ ሳይሆኑ ምንም ነገር አንድ ነገር የማያገናኛቸው አይነቶች - የሁለት የተለያዩ ዐለማት በምንም የማይገናኙ ጉዳዮች:: ይህን ያልኩበት ምክንያት በፓለቲካው አለም ቢሆንም እንድህ አይነት አለ። ለምሳሌ በሂትለር የሚመራው የጀርመኑ ናዚ አንድ የታሪክ ተሞክሮ ነው። ወያኔ ናዚ ነው ደብረጽዮን ሂትለር ነው። እንደዚህ አይነቱን በውይይት ሳይሆን በጥይት ነው የምትፈታው። የተግባር ሰው እወዳለሁ፤ የወሬ ሰው አልወድም - ለዚህ ነው አብይ አህመድ 4 አመት በወሬ ስለአስፈጅን ደግመን እህ እያለን ጆሮችንን ከፍተን አንጋጠን አናዳምጥ የምለው። It is better to learn from the success stories of others, genocide of Jew people was stopped when Nazi was defeated. So will the genocide of Amhara will stop when Woyane is eliminated from the surface of earth. Nothing short of this is a solution to Ethiopia. And the Amhara people should focus on this bigger picture

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by ethiopianunity » 02 Sep 2022, 14:01

sun wrote:
29 Aug 2022, 21:29
ethiopianunity wrote:
29 Aug 2022, 20:32
You got it. If you recall during transitional govt, the Olf was welcomed by Sebhat Nega into Tigray from Eritrea ( proof of connection and coordination here between Shabia, Olf and Tplf the same Liberation Fronts who controlled Ethiopia in 1991). Since there were already Olf aka Opdo within the Eprdf at the time, I.e, Aba Dula Gemeda, Werkneh Gebeyehu ( Eritrean-Oromo), Aby Ahmed, Lemma Megersa, Shimelis Abdisa( last name of shimelis a lie), etc when these controlled Ethiopia after Tplf, they did not have problem the coordination of Shabia (Isayas) Tplf( Sebhat Nega), and Olf ( Dawd Ibsa) the veterans of liberation fronts when they welcomed in Olf lead by Dawd Ibsa. The new govt is part and parcel all the Liberation Fronts. As George Carlin said, " It is a big party, and you ain't in it!". These libertion fronts are all coordinating number one against Amara, then the rest of pro Ethiopians, including Tigrayans who are pro Ethiopians. They had two problems: Ethiopian elements in the government, two the pro Ethiooian Tigrayans who are resisting. So they decided to eliminate segment of Tigrayans with their other enemies without single sacrifice of any liberation fronts and its supported ethnics. The military, who is in the it is now being exposed by its inaction, including my doubts those who are in the front of the Ethiopian military such as Abebaw pausing as Amara?! And Bethanu Julla. Why people like Bacha Debele and Sleshi Bekele no longer are doing Ethiopia causes such as: no negotiation when it comes to Ethiopia and Abay.

Other evidence shows the destruction of Shewa and Wello as leaders against colonization is already taking place.

Perhaps, there is a reason what Ethio360 might know, we don't know. Ask why most pro Ethiopians are in jail: General Mamo, Fanos, the journalist critique of Isayas, and other journalists.

We ate waiting from Andargachew Tsige group, where Ethiopia is heading. They were my litmus test that since they are "pro Ethiopia" l can follow and support what they support. The foolishness of this group is they put all their eggs in one basket by trusting Any and Isayas forgetting that Politics and world issue today is prostitute, there is nothing and no one to trust anymore as all nations and leaders are choosing their survival from the dragon. Isayas or Aby following only what is best for them and those historical groups and not about populations. Populations are being used for bargain, look at Tigrayans, these ancient peoples are going extinct even as we speak as they are being controlled by the tentacles of the Dragon.

By the way, you know the history of Mongols in 1300. Their offsprings are now the ones in power to control the world. We are doomed The ancient Mongols ( not today's Mongols) under Gang his Khan from Europe, to As is, to Middle East ( especially in Turk ), China and non Indian Asians, Germans through Turk have the offspring of Ganghis Khan. are the one in control, they are dangerous than colonists the world is doomed. The Dragon head is in China although it seemed U.S. the ones in U.S in power are also descendants of Gangis Khan

From the way you are writing it seems that you are smoking, drinking and sniffing too much as a result of which you are mixing and confusing issues. Get sober and see issues as they are but not as you imagine. Keep in mind that we have one country and one government, elected democratically in a fair, transparent competitive election process.

And that government, its leaders and the country we have to support with one voice and one power. The same needs to be the case for the next leaders who may aspire to come to power through the peaceful transparent, competitive democratic election. Multiple redneck rural or urban gangs aspiring to grab power by means violence must keep away from Ethiopian politics and go to Haiti or Libya to fight for the various gang factions and earn their livelihoods.


Sun aka Werkneh Gebeyehu,

You have not debated ONE thing in my comment. You are the delusional one. It is not about Any l am talking about , it is reality on the ground you denied since starting the 60s because you are pro ethnic and impossible to communicate with that is why Tigrayans are dying because they didn't leave any room for their fellow Ethiopians and saw Tplf and foreigners like gods, especially those who thought Tigray will be greater who are descendants of Eritrea. The poor Tigray has no power and in late 1800 they were protected by King Minilik in WWl. Then in WWll, they were protected by King H Selassie. Today, WWlll, the enemies learned from their mistakes and realized to disintegrate Ethiopia is by its own people who are resentful against the Kings and ethnics like Amara. They organized them within with help of Illuminati Egypt causing havoc against Sudan, jebha turned Eplf, EPLF became 3( EPLF, Olf and Tplf so it is able to win giving big incentives for EPLF. They also organized Derg (Mengistu) internally who annihilated the educated, the king, brought Ethiopia to its knees.

By the way it is you the fake Ethiopia sayers like Derg/Mengistu who did the most damage because they have the core Ethiopia. The other ones, enemy within is Ehapa. It is amazing when the so called people like Horus worshipping such Ehapa who worshipped the Liberation Fronts who thought they will have the share of piece of pie and they got toasted. Who was fighting with Ziad Bare Somalia and helped the invasion if Ethiopia, isn't it Ehapa? I actually prefer the Liberation Fronts who are out saying they are anti Ethiopia and against Ethiopians. It is those within who organize by allying with such liberation fronts giving them power. I believe the so called Andargachew Tsige are deceiving Ethiopians and have their own agenda to keep allying with Liberation Fronts. They were toasted by Tplf and they thought EPLF aka Shabia is the good guy. They like to be appendix to organizations to gain and implenetnt their agenda but they don't say clearly what it is. We still see the so called, Adissu, Tamrat Layne, Yared Tibebu, etc allying with Tplf. While the so called Andargachew and Berhanu and Co. Allying with Shabia. For 60 years they are bleeding Ethiopia. They think they have power because they are talking to Aby and Shabia govt. They are not realizing that once again, they are just useful idiots. I still give them the benefit of the doubt but, they are the appendix of Liberation fronts that is duping Ethiopians for Liberation fronts.

Horus is amazing making Amaras responsible if they refuse Kilil, then all will refuse. Really? I am against ethnic fanaticism and there are still Amaras especially Gonder area acting like red necks way even in 50s who are bad but these are minority compared to those poorer than the Olf claimed them to be by misinformation. Galla aka Oromo lived very well compared to the Amaras. In addition OK not Amaras then Neftegnas, really? Your behind would be like Somalia long time ago if not for Neftegnas. The balme is not even the Kings, they themselves were struggling and achieved with so much diplomacy and war to protect Ethiopia. Compared to today, everyone lived in the best possible. However, there were always moles in the society opportunists and in kahoots with foreigners working and lurking inside the kings government among societies that wanted to overthrow the kings and destroy the cohesion and peace of the society like jebha, EPLF, but the ones dangerous are those within like Dejazmach Tessema close confidant of the king, many you won't expect they are anti Ethiopians. They climb up in power and target farmers line because of not just greed but to get the King hated, just like the way they coordinated with the British by creating Famine in Tigray and Wello to overthrow the king when he was older. His government were not ethnofascist like today and they were working as much as they can with what they have considering many challenges from outside. Their weakness was they thought all Ethiopians and Eritreans are peaceful and no such betrayal will take place. Ethiopia was heading towards true democracy, and the kings understood the moles inside the government oppressing the farmers so that the bad groups wanted the society to rise. Revenge against the king because of one individual, Dejazmach Tessema,bor the so called some Gojames want us to believe because of Belai Zeleke, because of Eritrea's colonization, etc a nation of over 100 million people disappear is lunacy and today, their own house is being destroyed because of revenge. They realized the struggle against Ethiopia just made them enslaved by foreigners.

Nack to Horus, that being said, the so called strangling Ethiopia right now that is Kilil is nothing but a carved Oromiya that is totally alien to what is Ethiopia. We have seen the Olf controlling Oromiua today its alliance with the rest of Liberation Fronts is more dangerous than Amara Kilil. Oromiya is making the population totally alien to what Ethiopia is, that everyone back then were proud to have their ethnics, cultures and language and religion without enforcing by anyone, especially the government. Everyone lived as they pleased. Today you are forced to choose ifbyou are within Kilil especially Oromiya and Sidama is acting like Oromiya. Horus, you gave your flag what your forefathers fought for to ethnic apartheid and created ugly flag, you are learning Latin, not the Geez your forefathers owned. Pretty soon, you will discard what is left of and speak only Arabic like Eritrea. Tigrigna will soon go extinct. So at least Amara is saving you your distant memory who your fathers were. Thus the need to fight besides Amara, not those Amara ethnofacists like Dawit W/Giorgi's who want enslave Amara for so called Nazi "friendly" nation. Amara staying as one is must as you obviously know, the attack it is taking from Tigray, Eritrea, Olf, Sudan, Egypt for not just to snatch their soul whom some are snatched already and acting typical enemies of Ethiopia, but also their resources, whom yourself fighting for Abay and others. We have seen Tigray bleed Wello sucking its resources for 30 years and not just its soul. I have no a drop of Amara, but l am intuitive and logical and you can see from patterns of since the 60s where Ethiopia is heading. There are lazy ones who have no energy to fight for Ethiopia, after boasting the history of what and who Ethiopia is ending up saying without lifting a finger " god will protect Ethiopia" how,bin air?/why dont they leave that to the priests and do something? Amaras are also fighting the descendants of Liberation fronts inside them acting like Amara. So you better wake up and see the truth. Some already kneeling for the enemies, they are by themselves and the rest of Ethiopians are also in barn Kilil like animals. Foreigners see this as advantageous and will not leave until they win.


Also especially Amaras, be very very careful with people like Tarik, he is Shabo Wahabi, who is now fighting Tplf, but he is after Ethiopia's disintegration and against Amara for greater Arab Eritrea over the body of Ethiopia. Go back all those in ER what they used to write and reach your conclusions.

Sadacca aka Tarik,

Yes, that is who you are, you were anti Ethiopia at first, then when Aby took over, you started advocating for Amara and Ethiopia. Then you recently realized the end of Tplf and you became anti Ethiopia. Just as expected your true self.

Right,

There is something about Algiers, that gives me the creeps. Remember, the Badme issue is held in Algiers. You mentioned jebha Eprp, EPLF connection with Algiers. Last week there was Algiers meeting with France and Dr. Aby was there....wonder what they are cooking for Ethiopia? I am afraid, it might not be good. I am getting to worry Aby is descendant of the core of Liberation Fronts, thus the reason for his election. What is sad is that the Eprps are at least hold the ethnics of majority and yet, somehow they are appendix to Liberation Fronts means personal gain for them and not even for the majority. Go head, spill all the beans of what you know, seems you know. That is Ethiopia's issue, hording the truth and the secrets who is who would educate Ethiopians to know their internal enemies.

Selam/:

To answer your questions if the topic all of the above. Even in mathematics with too many variables, you can't get answer. There you, that is what Kilil creates are so proud of what is happening in Ethiopia, one against the other, you can't even hold the tail of the tiger.

Abere,

With Tigreans coming to their senses "Kaferku Aymelsegn" niw negeru. Ethiopians must take peace building and conflict transformation courses. You will understand. Think about it, today's conflict is revenge and fear that you want power after words to stop them from resurrecting. If the enemies are mobilizing for this reason and defeat you, 50 years from now, you will also secretly organize and try to decimate this enemy who did you wrong. Thus, cycle of violence will continue among descendants. In the mean time, consider leaving in peace null and void, eventually you go extinct. The reason l brought this up, so many reasons l have to say Tigray deserved it and advocate even if they go extinct. I had friends who hate to speak to their core. Their secretiveness. However if you understand the course l took l mentioned above, both from scientific and spiritual perspective, it is foolish to allow the cycle of violence, the wiser must stop it through forgiveness. I do think whether people like GebreMedhin Araya, are faking it or not, the logic is, there will always be Tigrayans who would go against the mission of Tplf. Even if it is ONE Tigraya remaining, will be on the side against Tplf but has no power. That is why you have to forgive and be the bigger person not just for yourself or Tigrayans most of all for the nation. But this does not mean you have to be fooled over and over again. Or itbis foolish to be weaker so that you think they will negotiate. No! You have to be forbyours, the Tigrayans sake to save them from themselves, and most of all the priority should be for the nations sake that embraces all the ethnics, to be the stronger, the capable, to be not just on the defence but offence to bring peace. If you are not from the stronger position, you can't protect even the enemies within saving them from themselves because they can't see the bigger picture. You can only negotiate when you are strong otherwise you are just like mud waiting to be swamp to get everybody swallowed. Thus, l am thinking about the Endertan , Iron, etc. Info believe we Ethiopians only know about our village even those from mainstream only know limited concept who and what Ethiopia is. We just copy and paste what our kinship tells us or write based on what they know and too lazy to understand who and what Ethiopia is, including myself. Therefore we generalize as (Selam/) said about others and in fact we Ethiopia sayers are the one the enemies within, who pour gas onto the fire because of our lack of knowledge. We define Ethiopia based on purely our surroundings where we grew up and expect everybody to be like one. How many of us then know who is who in Tigray? None. We are generalizing all. But l know for the fact not the fake Alula Solomon who is slowly crawling to rise up by tweetingnon the internet today, "seeking Peace in Ethiopia" knowing the end of Tplf is approaching, the advocate of war and violence who wanted to destroy Ethiopia.

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Right » 02 Sep 2022, 15:06

EU,
Your broad analysis is good, but you have to articulate with a little bit of details.

The 60s generation is the mother of all trouble. I have said it before, if you want to understand PP Amhara / ANDM then connect all the dots and it will take you all the way to TPLF and EPRP. The higher you go, the JEBHA and Gemal Abdul Nasser of Egypt will be there to the link.
Horus disagreed. Not only that, he blatantly said I am pointing my finger on the subject that I don’t know much.
I believe Horus was part of the 60s generation and I was hoping we may learn from him. But as usual he refused to engage. That is the problem with Horus- one day he is against tribalism and the next day he is a tribalist. One day he will throw his full support behind Abiye and the next day when Abiye is against his tribal interest he opposes him.
As it is a standard character of his generation of folks from the minority tribe, he doesn’t like the Amharas. He knows his stuff well but he doesn’t elaborate honestly and in principle. It has no use at all.

The Ethiopian crisis including Somalia, Eritrea and the Sudan will be here to stay until a bright and progressive looking generation emerges. Until then Ethiopia will be in this quagmire for many decades. The Tigrai is the Gold, Eritrea the Diamond, Gurage super gold bla bla will continue until it consumes us all.

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Meleket » 03 Sep 2022, 02:17

ባንድ በኩል ወዳጃችን እያልክ ያለሀው ነገር ትልቅ ቍምነገር ኣለው፡ በተለዪ ምሳሌህን ከወያኔው ስብሃት ነጋ ከእስር መፈታት ኣኳያ ስናዬው፡ ብልጥግናዎቹ በዚህ ጦርነት ውስጥ ያላቸውን ሚና ጥያቄ ውስጥ ሳይገባ ኣይቀርም። ምድረ ወጣት ለጥይት ኣረር ግንባሩን ሰጥቶና ተሰውቶ ነጣ ያወጣውን መሬት፡ ነገ ተነገ ወድያ ይዞታህን ማቀብ ተስኖህ ለቀህ የምትወጣ ከሆነ። ምድረ ኣሸባሪን ኣይገቡ ገብተህ የያዝከውን ጋጠወጥ ጉምቱ ጉምቱ ወንጀለኛ ነገ ተነገ ወድያ “እኛም ሲነገረን ደንግጠናል ገርሞናል” እያልክ የምትፈታ ከሆነ’ማ፡ ኣንድ ሊደበቅ የታሰበ ነገር እንዳለ ፍንትው ብሎ፡ Abere እንዳበራሀው ይበራልሃል። :mrgreen:
Abere wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 11:22
ይህን ልዩነት ለማብራራት ያህል የጀርመን ናዚ እና መሪውን ሂትለርን እንደ ምሳሌ ተጠቅሚያለሁ። የናዚ ድርጅት ከተደመሰሰ ሂትለርም ከተወገደ በኋላ እኮ ጀርመኖች እንደ አውሮፓዊያን የአውሮፓ ህበረት ሁነዋል። ዛሬ ጀርመን ዋና የአውሮፓ ህብረት ተዋናይ አገር ነች። ሁለት የማይገናኙት አለማት የወያኔ አለም የተለየ አለም መሆኑን ነው። የትግራይ ህዝብ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው - ከወያኔዋ የቅዠት አለም ባትቶ ነቅቶ ከተነሳ።

Meleket wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 11:01
ወዳጄ Abere ለጨዋታና ለውይይት ያህል ነው፡ :mrgreen: ታድያ እነዚህ እላይ በአርእስትህ የጠቀስካቸው ኣካላት ምንም የሚያገናቸው የጋራ እሴት የላቸውም ማለት ነውን? ኢትዮጵያዊነታቸው ኣያገናኛቸውምን? ደግሞስ ከአማራውና ከወያኔው ኣብራክ የሚወለዱ ኣካላት የሉምን? እንደኛ እንደ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች ኣተያዪ፡ ኣማሮችና ወያኔዎች ኢትዮጵያዊነት የሚያገናኛቸው ይመስለናል። ለዚያም ነበር ባንድ ወቅት ወያኖች በመሩት በኤርትራ ላይ በተደረገ ወረራ ወቅት፡ ጥቂት የማይባሉ ኣማሮችና ወዘተዎች ተሳትፈው የነበረው፡ ያውም ፈንጂ ረጋጭ ሆነው።

ለመሆኑ "ኢትዮጵያዊነት" ማለት ምን ማለት ነው ብሎ የሚጠይቅ ቢነሳ፡ ምን ኣይነት መልስ ይሆን እዚህ ለመረጃ ታዳሚ የሚቀርበው። የነ Axumezana ኢትዮጵያዊነት " 'የእንግዴ ልጅ' ኢትዮጵያዊነት" መሆኑን መቼም ኣውቀናል። https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 7#p1247057
:mrgreen:
Abere wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 10:30
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Meleket/መለከት/,

በሂሳብ ንድፈ ሃሳብ ስለስብስብ አይነቶች እና ተዛምዶ ስንማር disjoint set የሚባል ነገር አለ። ሁለቱ ስብስቦች (sets) ሆድ እና ጀርባ ብቻ ሳይሆኑ ምንም ነገር አንድ ነገር የማያገናኛቸው አይነቶች - የሁለት የተለያዩ ዐለማት በምንም የማይገናኙ ጉዳዮች:: ይህን ያልኩበት ምክንያት በፓለቲካው አለም ቢሆንም እንድህ አይነት አለ። ለምሳሌ በሂትለር የሚመራው የጀርመኑ ናዚ አንድ የታሪክ ተሞክሮ ነው። ወያኔ ናዚ ነው ደብረጽዮን ሂትለር ነው። እንደዚህ አይነቱን በውይይት ሳይሆን በጥይት ነው የምትፈታው። የተግባር ሰው እወዳለሁ፤ የወሬ ሰው አልወድም - ለዚህ ነው አብይ አህመድ 4 አመት በወሬ ስለአስፈጅን ደግመን እህ እያለን ጆሮችንን ከፍተን አንጋጠን አናዳምጥ የምለው። It is better to learn from the success stories of others, genocide of Jew people was stopped when Nazi was defeated. So will the genocide of Amhara will stop when Woyane is eliminated from the surface of earth. Nothing short of this is a solution to Ethiopia. And the Amhara people should focus on this bigger picture

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Misraq » 10 Sep 2023, 13:55

Selam/ wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 19:57
I heard someone else on ER say that too. Good job for blurring the the rhetoric gab between Amhara extremists and woyane thugs! :lol:

sarcasm wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 19:44
"ይሄ ጦርነት የአማራና የትግራይ ሕዝቦች ጦርነት አይደለም። ይሄ ስርዓት የጋራ ጠላት ነው።" የትግራይ ሰራዊት ዋና አዛዥ ታጋይ ታደሰ ወረደ የሰጡት ጋዜጣዊ መግልጫ

ጋላው Selam,

Who are the "Amhara Extremists",? Not fair you call everyone Amhara extremist just because they oppose fake phD abiy

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by Selam/ » 10 Sep 2023, 22:10

ሽኮኮው - እኔን ምንም በለኝ፣ ግን ህዝብን አትሳደብ። ነውር ነው! መንገድ ላይ እንደአረም የበቀልክ ጭሎ።
Misraq wrote:
10 Sep 2023, 13:55
Selam/ wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 19:57
I heard someone else on ER say that too. Good job for blurring the the rhetoric gab between Amhara extremists and woyane thugs! :lol:

sarcasm wrote:
31 Aug 2022, 19:44
"ይሄ ጦርነት የአማራና የትግራይ ሕዝቦች ጦርነት አይደለም። ይሄ ስርዓት የጋራ ጠላት ነው።" የትግራይ ሰራዊት ዋና አዛዥ ታጋይ ታደሰ ወረደ የሰጡት ጋዜጣዊ መግልጫ

ጋላው Selam,

Who are the "Amhara Extremists",? Not fair you call everyone Amhara extremist just because they oppose fake phD abiy

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Re: This war is between Amhara and TPLF: It is not about Abiy Ahmed or PP.

Post by sarcasm » 09 Jul 2024, 11:51

sun wrote:
29 Aug 2022, 21:29

I don't get this : )

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