>>>>>Dejach Aklilu wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 20:13I do mind that actually. The referendum was a result of the conclusion of the civil war where the rebels were the victors. Victors decide the terms of settlement, I.e. referenda on eritrean independence. Eritreans including those living in ethiopia voted 99%+ to be independent. Your allegation the referendum was flawed is a moot point because as I explained above, Eritrea is not independent because of the result of the referendum but the result of the civil war, the referendum and its result being a mere formality. I hope you now understand.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 05:00
Okay, let me be so stupid as you may like to have it. Then answer the following question(s):
Ethiopia can nullify or not, it is not the major issue here. Anybody can never deny that the whole orchestration was fake: the way TPLF granted the so called independence, the way so called referendum was conducted, how the views of all the stakeholders of the whole business were ignored and everything was staged and imposed make the whole process full of major flaws. In the case of major flaws it is only a matter of time to rectify it, it is not if about Ethiopia or Eritrea likes it or not, the distortion has to be rectified. Do you mind that?
A rebel group doesn't survive for 30 years plus if it isn't supported by the locals my friend. Just look closer to home, PM Abiy enjoys undisputed military superiority over fano, but he hasn't been able to eliminate them because of support from their local population.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 05:00TPLF forced the so called Eritrean independence on the people of Ethiopia by means of a barrel of the gun, it was not an elected government. It shouldn't have a mandate to deliberate on issues of such a national strategic interest, that could affect the lives of generations to come. This generation can ignore and just get over it, but it will going to come back and haunt our coming generations down the road. It is not sustainable, is it in your smart world?
The sooner you try to rectify the distortions the better and easier it is to do so. But we have many bandas among us for now, we will going to deal with them adequately first and then sort out the rest of distortions in our national issues. Are you perhaps part of the bandas?
Please be informed fighting for 30 years or more will never justify to impose your will on others by means of violence, you may win the violence but not the justification.
Please tell me im dying to know what Ethiopia gains by nullifying the referendum and claiming Eritrea. Does Ethiopia gain the industries, the coal mines, the oil fields, the solar farms of eritrea, we all know Eritrea has none of those. It is not like eritrea has a swiss style highly skilled, uber productive labor force, its a country of 5 million, and the only thing they are highly productive at is producing the biggest number of per capita refugees along with Syria and taliban Afghans. you want to add these to our already problem riddled country ?
Without being emotionally charged, and with a goal of ruthlessly pursuing our intrest, ethiopia is worse off if it incorporates eritrea entirely. However, It's not a secret we are exploring options of acquiring a sea outlet, we just need to be smart and wait until Issu kicks the bucket, eritrea will go into a succession crises in the same vein as post-tito of yugoslavia, post-gaddafi lybia, post HIM ethiopia. The more Issayas stays in power and starves alternative voices oxygen, the more he decimates his country further, the more severe their transition to post-isayas eritrea will be. So failed state awaits them. I'm not whishing it on them, just stating what has happened time and time again to mutliple countries throughout history. If Ethiopia has mature politicians ready at the gates who play their cards right, the afar coast line including assab will return back into Ethiopia's hands. We will not have a hard time gaining recognition for Ethiopian Assab as the port city and the surrounding afar land was self governing before eplf took over, hence according to international law, eplf actually violated assab's self governing autonomy by invading and incorporating it into eritrea proper. As with respecting the ethio-eritrea colonial borders, the first country to violate that border was actually eritrea's ancestor Italy when they invaded in the 1930s, so international law is on our side, all can be litigated in court. Beyond that, recognition wise Ethiopia has a far powerful politcal capital and standing in front of the african Union or regional organisations like EAC, IGAD than post-issu crises Eritrea. So playing the long game is better than losing your standing and capital by appearing to be the aggressor by nullifying or invading.
Re: If Ethiopia nullifies Eritrean independence, how soon will it restore Ethiopian citizenship/passport to Eritreans?
Re: If Ethiopia nullifies Eritrean independence, how soon will it restore Ethiopian citizenship/passport to Eritreans?
No doubt, Gurage Christians who are the political leaders of Gurage, hand picked by Ethio govs, play pets to all the d*cks of Ethiopian govs; the onus is on them like Whorus, to pause and re-think their embarassing political behaviors. Mostly, they are afraid they will lose the perks.
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Re: If Ethiopia nullifies Eritrean independence, how soon will it restore Ethiopian citizenship/passport to Eritreans?
Adgi named Aklilu,
Your scheme will not work either. Eritrea is a country with delineated borders. Its sovereign territories are recognized by the UN. After Isayas, you idiots would not have a chance against Eritrea. Eritrea wouldn’t be here in this situation if it wasn’t for him. The man wants to rule your aszzz. He kept looking down south for the last thirty years. He failed to develop a good economy around the rich resources of the RedSea. He loves wars. He was great during the struglgle. He is a war time leader. We need a peace time leader when peace allows and a war time leader when war is thrust upon us. My advice to Ethiopians is to get well educated leader with great diplomatic skills and know how to be an asset not only for Ethiopia but the whole neighborhood. You need a peace champion. Only then, Ethiopia could attain the position in Africa it had during Haile Sellssies time. You need to learn to be good neighbors. That idiotic Galla who served as a condom for TPLF is going to lead Ethiopia to complete disintegration. Mark my word for it.
Your scheme will not work either. Eritrea is a country with delineated borders. Its sovereign territories are recognized by the UN. After Isayas, you idiots would not have a chance against Eritrea. Eritrea wouldn’t be here in this situation if it wasn’t for him. The man wants to rule your aszzz. He kept looking down south for the last thirty years. He failed to develop a good economy around the rich resources of the RedSea. He loves wars. He was great during the struglgle. He is a war time leader. We need a peace time leader when peace allows and a war time leader when war is thrust upon us. My advice to Ethiopians is to get well educated leader with great diplomatic skills and know how to be an asset not only for Ethiopia but the whole neighborhood. You need a peace champion. Only then, Ethiopia could attain the position in Africa it had during Haile Sellssies time. You need to learn to be good neighbors. That idiotic Galla who served as a condom for TPLF is going to lead Ethiopia to complete disintegration. Mark my word for it.