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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 09:58

Addressing your two points:
- You don’t have any evidence that all Eritrean asylum seekers are economic migrants. Remember that there are Eritreans migrants in Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopia etc.

- If people want to flee their country, it’s their right to do so as long as the host nation accommodates them. Who are you to tell them otherwise? If some of them are fleeing their country because of economic sufferings, then it’s the government’s responsibility to create a conducive living environment rather than holding them hostage.

Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:43
What do you know, what I do for my country?

Our hope of returning home was quashed by the 1998-2000 war & all that happened afterwards. I was a political asylum seeker, while these kids are economic migrants.

Tell me though, is it ok for you Ethiopians too are fleeing their country.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?
Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:15
Wugya

because they're my people, I love them & want them to stay home & develop the country from within.

They were fooled into thinking, they would find heaven outside.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:12
I don’t care whether they are deported or not but it’s an unacceptable act of crude violence.

Why didn’t you want them to leave? That’s sounds like North Korea!



https://x.com/jayethio/status/169845257 ... 1JjuzEoMXA


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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:01

You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?
Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:15
Wugya

because they're my people, I love them & want them to stay home & develop the country from within.

They were fooled into thinking, they would find heaven outside.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:12
I don’t care whether they are deported or not but it’s an unacceptable act of crude violence.

Why didn’t you want them to leave? That’s sounds like North Korea!



https://x.com/jayethio/status/169845257 ... 1JjuzEoMXA


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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 04 Sep 2023, 10:02

You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?
Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:15
Wugya

because they're my people, I love them & want them to stay home & develop the country from within.

They were fooled into thinking, they would find heaven outside.




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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:20

Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?


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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 04 Sep 2023, 10:25

Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.




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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:30

Buddy, you have a ህግደፍ ወይንም ሞት Gulag mentality, name calling everyone that refuted your unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements. I am a pragmatic and an inquisitive person who hates to draw conclusions without having all the facts. If that doesn’t sit well with your cadre mindset, go and fvck yourself.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?




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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Cigar » 04 Sep 2023, 10:30

Selam, come on guy, you seem more of sensible guy from majority of this form members.
Now, why are you still trying to find videos or making all the excuses to point your fingers towards the so called supporters actions here.
Keep in mind that these opposition groups has no right to cross the red line and attack legally permitted people.
You provided a gruesome video when the so called supporters were beating the hell out of the two (may be tegarus-but it doesn’t matter if they are Eritreans opposers too). Can’t you ask yourself why these two came in a place they were not allowed to be, but to commit crimes on innocent people who have the right to defend them selves? Did you also see I think it was in Canada that these two guys look alike (in principle) smacking an elderly supposedly supporter man with a steel folding chair and injured him badly so much so that he had like 15 stitches on his bold head? Well the old man is an innocent man. These two guys are criminals who came to break other elderly Eritreans heads.
I suggest that you be honest and differentiate between the two groups.
One is legally permitted to do events in peaceful manner. The other group might have permission to do a counter peaceful demonstration, but what part of none of the two groups have the right to cross one another red line and attack the other are you not understanding? Every body knows that these hooligans been crossing the red line in Europe, Canada and the USA. And in all those countries the supposedly govt supporters hardly took counter attacks (they should have but were lawful) but at one point one got to say enough is enough and needs to defend self. The two guys you bleeding heads which you are concerned are actually lucky that there were two Eritrean govt supporters telling the other to stop killing them and unfortunately the two hooligans are alive now.
If you ask me, I rather want them dead on the spot for they intruded in other peoples domains to do what was done to them.
So stop politicizing this thing and start seeing it the legal way. Who has the right to defend self? Who is approaching who and for what reason?
Or is a disgruntled person legally allowed to come to your home and destroy your things and harm your loved ones?
Which side will you take if such happens in your own home where your mom and sibilants legally reside? Would you blame your mom and your siblings for being victims?
I don’t know, the way you are going back and forth looks like that you would just watch your property and family get attacked by hooligans who do not have the right or business to encroach you.
As far as evidence that there are lots of tegarus in this crap, I don’t know how to post videos here, but I told you one tigrawai priest got killed in Israel. You can ask other people to verify it. He was mentioned not because he is the only one, but because he was well known hate speech spreader and Eritrean attacking stick. Again good riddance.

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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 04 Sep 2023, 10:36

Unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements said this moron when confronted with evidence. It's not my fault you're retarded and grasp things slowly. It will take you a while before you fully comprehend what's going on. Wait and see what the got for you as well. Vermin.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:30
Buddy, you have a ህግደፍ ወይንም ሞት Gulag mentality, name calling everyone that refuted your unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements. I am a pragmatic and an inquisitive person who hates to draw conclusions without having all the facts. If that doesn’t sit well with your cadre mindset, go and fvck yourself.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:46
Are you dumb? Are you listening? These thugs that are attacking festival goers are weyane rodents. Most of them are Tigrayans and some are Eritreans on tplf's payroll. The Eritrean opposition is actually joing government supporters in fighting these weyane vermin. They attack everything Eritrean, women, children, the flag and the elderly. They are out for revenge. Nothing to do with opposing the government. They can hold their own events no1 bothers them. They claim to be TDF. Do you know where TDF is from? You guessed right. From chigaram kilil tigray.

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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:40

No one can convince a cadre, specifically the one with a Gulag background. They are like a beast in a cage, growling at everyone & preventing anyone to get closer to them.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:36
Unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements said this moron when confronted with evidence. It's not my fault you're retarded and grasp things slowly. It will take you a while before you fully comprehend what's going on. Wait and see what the got for you as well. Vermin.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:30
Buddy, you have a ህግደፍ ወይንም ሞት Gulag mentality, name calling everyone that refuted your unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements. I am a pragmatic and an inquisitive person who hates to draw conclusions without having all the facts. If that doesn’t sit well with your cadre mindset, go and fvck yourself.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:01
You’re the dumb one trying to convince the pragmatic SELAM without providing any evidence whatsoever.




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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 04 Sep 2023, 10:44

You're special, I wanna see your face when you find out what they got in store for you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:40
No one can convince a cadre, specifically the one with a Gulag background. They are like a beast in a cage, growling at everyone & preventing anyone to get closer to them.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:36
Unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements said this moron when confronted with evidence. It's not my fault you're retarded and grasp things slowly. It will take you a while before you fully comprehend what's going on. Wait and see what the got for you as well. Vermin.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:30
Buddy, you have a ህግደፍ ወይንም ሞት Gulag mentality, name calling everyone that refuted your unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements. I am a pragmatic and an inquisitive person who hates to draw conclusions without having all the facts. If that doesn’t sit well with your cadre mindset, go and fvck yourself.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:02
You're a clown. You need to get the facts before you open your mouth. Imbecile.

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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Fed_Up » 04 Sep 2023, 10:47

Ato Selam

እነዚህ እንዲሄዱ ፈቅደህ ነው ወይስ ፈቅደው:: God sake
ባክህ ክፋ እንዳታናግረን::





Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:12
I don’t care whether they are deported or not but it’s an unacceptable act of crude violence.

Why didn’t you want them to leave the country? That’s sounds like North Korea!



https://x.com/jayethio/status/169845257 ... 1JjuzEoMXA



Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:05
What if they get deported, almexet (not that Eritrea receives forced deportations)?

We didn't want them to leave, in the first place.







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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by quindibu » 04 Sep 2023, 10:49

I just don't understand you people? Are you seriously trying to logically engage this vermin by the name Selam? If I hear, for instance, from the likes of Sam Ebalalehu, one of the fair-minded and who have no overt animosity towards Eritrea/ns, no matter what his personal opinions are, I wouldn't mind to engaging him.....

Let's deploy our time where it matters......without being bogged down with idiots who try to display moral superiority while they have been murdering ach other and at each other's throats in their own house for almost a century.
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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:51

I also want to see your cadre face when the facts come out and the perpetrators are deported. Selam isn’t the one who drew a conclusion. I am fine either way as long as the result is based on science and factual investigation, not on a crappy cadre propaganda like that of yours.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:44
You're special, I wanna see your face when you find out what they got in store for you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:40
No one can convince a cadre, specifically the one with a Gulag background. They are like a beast in a cage, growling at everyone & preventing anyone to get closer to them.
Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:36
Unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements said this moron when confronted with evidence. It's not my fault you're retarded and grasp things slowly. It will take you a while before you fully comprehend what's going on. Wait and see what the got for you as well. Vermin.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:30
Buddy, you have a ህግደፍ ወይንም ሞት Gulag mentality, name calling everyone that refuted your unsubstantiated allegations and blank statements. I am a pragmatic and an inquisitive person who hates to draw conclusions without having all the facts. If that doesn’t sit well with your cadre mindset, go and fvck yourself.


Weyane.is.dead wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Mentally retarded imbecile. The facts are there, you just refuse to accept them. Nothing can help with that kind of attitude. Stupid clown.
Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:20
Keep blabbering none sense because you don’t have the veins and skills to communicate facts! Trying to forcefully shove an unsubstantiated claim into people’s throat is a cadre mentality. If all pro-government folks are as dense as you are, no wonder why some call your country a political Gulag.


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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 10:55

Another idiotic cadre pulling in a 3rd person into the discussion because he can’t stand on his own?

Pin point where I expressed animosity toward Eritrea.

quindibu wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:49
I just don't understand you people? Are you seriously trying to logically engage this vermin by the name Selam? If I hear, for instance, from the likes of Sam Ebalalehu, one of the fair-minded and who have no overt animosity towards Eritrea/ns, no matter what his personal opinions are, I wouldn't mind to engage him.....

Let's deploy our time where it matters......without being bogged down with idiots who try to display moral superiority while they have been murdering each other for the almost a century

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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Zmeselo » 04 Sep 2023, 11:07

• Then what are they doing supporting the gov't, if they had political reasons?

Some Eritreans who hate the gov't for political reasons might've joined the blue shirted thugs though, for sure.

• Of course they can flee, but they were fooled into thinking they would find anything better.

• Our suffering is because of successive Ethiopian regimes (H.S., Menghie and the terror junta of chgray) & their handlers, not PIA and his gov't.



Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:58
Addressing your two points:
- You don’t have any evidence that all Eritrean asylum seekers are economic migrants. Remember that there are Eritreans migrants in Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopia etc.

- If people want to flee their country, it’s their right to do so as long as the host nation accommodates them. Who are you to tell them otherwise? If some of them are fleeing their country because of economic sufferings, then it’s the government’s responsibility to create a conducive living environment rather than holding them hostage.

Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:43
What do you know, what I do for my country?

Our hope of returning home was quashed by the 1998-2000 war & all that happened afterwards. I was a political asylum seeker, while these kids are economic migrants.

Tell me though, is it ok for you Ethiopians too are fleeing their country.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?
Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:15
Wugya

because they're my people, I love them & want them to stay home & develop the country from within.

They were fooled into thinking, they would find heaven outside.




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Re: Breaking News VOA:Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has announced plans to deport 1,000 PFDJ activists

Post by Selam/ » 04 Sep 2023, 11:40

See below in line.
Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 11:07
• Then what are they doing supporting the gov't, if they had political reasons? How would I know? You tell me if the pro-government group is an economic migrant while the opposition is a political one. That would be a blank check for Netanyahu to deport the pro-government folks.

Some Eritreans who hate the gov't for political reasons might've joined the blue shirted thugs though, for sure. So, are you saying Eritrean opposition and Tigreans are allied? Not sure if it’s true but it doesn’t surprise me because a similar alliance existed 30years ago.

• Of course they can flee, but they were fooled into thinking they would find anything better. So, if they are fooled and in fact their home country is better, why wouldn’t they voluntarily return? I don’t think you should collectively make statements on their behalf. Let them decide what’s best for them individually.

• Our suffering is because of successive Ethiopian regimes (H.S., Menghie and the terror junta of chgray) & their handlers, not PIA and his gov't. Partly possible but millions of young Africans are fleeing their country across the continent primarily because their government failed them. So, blaming Ethiopia for all your sufferings is just an excuse.



Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:58
Addressing your two points:
- You don’t have any evidence that all Eritrean asylum seekers are economic migrants. Remember that there are Eritreans migrants in Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopia etc.

- If people want to flee their country, it’s their right to do so as long as the host nation accommodates them. Who are you to tell them otherwise? If some of them are fleeing their country because of economic sufferings, then it’s the government’s responsibility to create a conducive living environment rather than holding them hostage.

Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:43
What do you know, what I do for my country?

Our hope of returning home was quashed by the 1998-2000 war & all that happened afterwards. I was a political asylum seeker, while these kids are economic migrants.

Tell me though, is it ok for you Ethiopians too are fleeing their country.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:36
So why don’t you go back and develop your country now if you are expecting everyone else to stay there? Don’t you think that’s hypocrisy?

If you left your country during Mengistu, you probably have kids here who are enjoying the freedom and peace given to them in the west, so much so that they don’t want to relocate to Eritrea. Then what’s wrong with other Eritreans seeking a free, peaceful & prosperous living environment for their kids?


Zmeselo wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:24
I personally was pushed out by Menghistu, not PIA.


Selam/ wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:21
Where do you live?


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