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The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by eden » 22 Nov 2019, 00:03

The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box, can they? Why not fund the likes of PM Abiy or Mr. Taye Bogale to run against him rather than running the childish diaspora protests? The way to defeat is at the ballot box. That guarantees his ideas are defeated by people. If people elect him, then his ideas get implemented. Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by TGAA » 22 Nov 2019, 00:59

Not an easy task to sink this in your imbecile's skull, but it worth trying. Ayatola jawar is a jihadist with Oromo clad, when you take off the clad the true terrorist emerges. His craze keeros burned down 30 Christian houses of worships (churches) Orthodox Christian Oromos were not speared by Ayatolla Jawars' keero mob. Amharas who according to Jawar is synonymous with Christians were targeted and pelted to death, some of them were beheaded (typical of jahdst terrorist) you eden Jewar's keero cheerleader come here to lecture us about the ballot box. If terrorists believed they will win at the ballot box they would never engage in terror, they know they can't so they use terror to intemedate- to tell people whom to vote for or else the make sure that terror is not that far behind. Jawar with 84 innocent Ethiopians in his hand should be hanged, but he is not going to be invited to compete in the democratic competition.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Digital Weyane » 22 Nov 2019, 01:06

I agree with my Weyane boss eden/kerenite/Abebe B that, the only way to overthrow dictator Abiy is by supporting Jawar Mohammad and by creating tensions between the two Oromo leaders. We Weyane are very smart. :mrgreen:

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 22 Nov 2019, 01:41

The “ fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box.” Really? Eden, your sucking up to the Jawar mob got out of proportion. Do not lower yourself to such low level. For your information, the Jawar political impact was just buried a few days ago. The Lemma team who made Jawar significant in Ethiopian politics is going to make him irrelevant to it. Mark my word.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by DefendTheTruth » 22 Nov 2019, 12:52

eden wrote:
22 Nov 2019, 00:03
The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box, can they? Why not fund the likes of PM Abiy or Mr. Taye Bogale to run against him rather than running the childish diaspora protests? The way to defeat is at the ballot box. That guarantees his ideas are defeated by people. If people elect him, then his ideas get implemented. Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?
There could be fanatics on both sides. But the remedy to fanatics is not yet another fanatic from the other side, but a moderate. Who told you a fanatic can defeat a fanatic?

How big is the skull on your that tinny head?

You know what? Adolf Hitler was elected by a democratically held election, he was in fact a magnet of crouds everywhere he turned to. Can you ask what his political program was that he managed to attract such a big croud to himself? Nothing else except the mantra that his people were victimized by some powers, specially with regard to how the WWI concluded?

What is Jawar Mohammad's political program today, except his endless claim that the Oromo were victimized in a country that they themselves built and sustained?

Did you see anywhere when Jawar Mohammad even tried to present his case to discussion, except his usual explosive outbrusts, mostly lacking any material content.

I saw somewhere today where he claimed in Amharic that his party will going to win 350 seats in the next election and instantly repeated the same sentence in english and claimed his camp will win 356, in a matter of seconds. Which party he is talking about is not clear and how that calculation was made is not said, but there are still few people with tinny headed skulls like you who try to echo such claims as something.

I don't think the Oromos and other Ethiopians of the 21st century are that bad to repeat the same mistake that the Germans made around the half of the 20th century.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Ghirmawi » 22 Nov 2019, 13:05

Eduska,
Where is ur inteligence girl? Do u really believe Jawar will really run for office? What for? To suphocate himself?
Nah, Jawar will never run for office. He is more efficient and more free and more influencial and, importantly, more rich as an activist. No one expecta him to have an objective. As long as he keep criticizing the government, he will continue to be seen as the voice of the Oromo. He is smart enough to know that. Besides, he has no formidable constituency that can enable him to function in a politcally correct manner. His supporters are adherents of a zero-sum game. Satisfying thier perpetual demands while bieng a leader of 100 million people composed of 80 ethnic groups is a folly. He won't last a year. Hence, He will only run for office if he is an idiot, which i pretty much doubt.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Ethoash » 22 Nov 2019, 15:43

The fanatics can't campaign in oromia

because the same The fanatics deny Jahwar right to campaign in USA .. so [deleted] for [deleted].. no more The fanatics in oromia giving speech... i hope this fanatics will not cry saying qerro deny then their right to preach.. forgetting that they did deny son of the oromo to speak.. in the land of free

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by eden » 22 Nov 2019, 20:40

Sam

There’s a good indicator you can use to gauge if Jawar can be defeated or not. He is calling for election. The fanatics are against the election. What does that tell you?

Here’s an even bigger point though: It’s not about Jawar. It’s about what he stands by: the current federal system. Almost all Oromo based parties are behind it. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 22 Nov 2019, 21:37

Eden, what you wrote earlier had different meaning than that of your recent. You wrote the “ fanatics — that is open to interpretation— do not defeat Jawar at the ballot box.” First, I have not seen any indication that Jawar wants to run for office. I argue he does not like to be a politician. Unlike being an activist, unaccountable to any voter demands, politicians, even by Ethiopian standard , should strive to answer the demand of their constituents. Jawar however seemed to have enjoyed being a king maker. Well, he has had a significant number of unemployed Oromo youth that he relied upon for being one.
As for federalism, let Ethiopians engage in discussion. As for as I know, no political party or prominent Ethiopian politician opposed federalism. The dispute I believe is about the type of federalism Ethiopia needs. Overtime , through rational discussion, Ethiopians will employ a federal system that strengthens Ethiopia, not that weakens her.

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Nov 2019, 02:29

eden wrote:
22 Nov 2019, 20:40

Here’s an even bigger point though: It’s not about Jawar. It’s about what he stands by: the current federal system. Almost all Oromo based parties are behind it. Correct me if I’m wrong here.
I think there is no big point that would come from a tinny head like that of yours. There is no better proof of your tinny head than your worshipping a certain delusioned guy who couldn't say what his goal is in all of his self acclaimed political activism as "brilliant".

The current federal system had it the formula that 4 x 9 = 36, else nothing. And you want us that this is worth defending? The federal system that created a 2-tier society, where one of the tier was terminally banded from high level of responsibility for the common affairs of the people of the country?

A tinny head like you can't explain why a somali man (as an instance here, who is a citizen of the common country) should be terminally banned from holding all the possible offices of his own country, and that is worth defending and someone will win such a policy at the "ballot box". And that is market place idea in the empty skull over your head.

Where in this world did you see that a democratic system renders the voices of 40 Millions and that of 6 Millions are all equal? (I don't think and believe that blood majority is the same as democratic majority in my view, though). But that is what you are talking about here.

Didn't Jawar based his claim to power in the name of "majority rule"? And what was that "majority" he was referring to here, when did that majority rule happen that he is trying to defend it now?

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Re: The fanatics can’t defeat Jawar at the ballot box

Post by Naga Tuma » 23 Nov 2019, 04:30

eden wrote:
22 Nov 2019, 20:40
It’s not about Jawar. It’s about what he stands by: the current federal system. Almost all Oromo based parties are behind it. Correct me if I’m wrong here.
He stood by "Ethiopia out of Oromia" እኮ before settling for an unqualified defense of the federalism structure that the late Meles Zenawi presided over in creating and after ardently voicing an unqualified criticism of the same man. That is another story. What I am more interested in to know is your personal conviction about the current federalism structure or if you can imagine an alternative federalism structure that is likely to function better.

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