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[Abaymado]

That is very amazing, the time it takes to reach this level is amazing. now anyone who want to pursue its education in any field can apply at regular level with payment. I like the idea. i have heard that it will cost 900k to study medicine in Tikur anmbsa college, that is cool even though it is expensive. that was impossible in derg era time and in eprdf time. i think this is a big change.

I am feeling that there is something wrong with our universities especially from the stuff members, they think they are at the top and they think there is nothing beyond them. And the sad thing is that they want us to stand for their right esp for example for their low salary and the likes, why don't they speak and struggle for their cause? it is really shameful to see them consider themselves as a saint. I am feeling that they are nothing, even they can't bring something new to our country. Other universities in other countries produce or introduce new technologies like producing electric vehicles, mobile phone and the like but ours are just nothing and look don't exist at all.

well I suggest it will be fine if all universities go private.

[Abere]

Addis Ababa University is a Public University (Funded by Government Fund) and will remain such although it claims self governing. We for instance know the so-called " Ethiopian Human Rights Commission" and also " ዕንባ ጠባቂ", they have been part of the oppressing government. Nothing qualitative will change. Expecting academic freedom in Ethiopia where the very students are ethnically charged, faculty and staff appointment is based on ethnicity, the educational direction set by the government is a dream.

Wondering why you get angry at the academic and administrative staff of the university? The are underpaid for their qualification, their programs underfunded and yet are training as future generation. These are the ones no where close to corruption (I mean faculty, instructional staff). You must have appreciated them. The faculty with GPA 3.80%+ teaching living on minimum wage, while his students graduated with GPA of 2.00 becomes millionaires elsewhere in government bureaucracy. They do not deserve criticism.

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

[Abaymado]

Addis Ababa University is a Public University (Funded by Government Fund) and will remain such although it claims self governing. We for instance know the so-called " Ethiopian Human Rights Commission" and also " ዕንባ ጠባቂ", they have been part of the oppressing government. Nothing qualitative will change. Expecting academic freedom in Ethiopia where the very students are ethnically charged, faculty and staff appointment is based on ethnicity, the educational direction set by the government is a dream.

Wondering why you get angry at the academic and administrative staff of the university? The are underpaid for their qualification,

they should stand and fight for their right.


their programs underfunded and yet are training as future generation. These are the ones no where close to corruption (I mean faculty, instructional staff). You must have appreciated them. The faculty with GPA 3.80%+ teaching living on minimum wage, while his students graduated with GPA of 2.00 becomes millionaires elsewhere in government bureaucracy. They do not deserve criticism.


gpa with 3.8 is just scam, it should bring something different from ordinary ones. Universities in
African countries are going far a head compared to ours. We are stuck to stupid grade thing that doesn't bring any change. By the way gpa depends on many things such as the environment you are in, for example instructors can give you free A, or, it depend on the environment; situation may be suitable for some others and not for others(this can be a political, economical or social factor).

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

no they are not they are under international norms.

[Abaymado]

Horus don't bring gurage thing here when we post something. education and gurage are like fire and straw. they don't like each other.

[Abere]

Addis Ababa University is a Public University (Funded by Government Fund) and will remain such although it claims self governing. We for instance know the so-called " Ethiopian Human Rights Commission" and also " ዕንባ ጠባቂ", they have been part of the oppressing government. Nothing qualitative will change. Expecting academic freedom in Ethiopia where the very students are ethnically charged, faculty and staff appointment is based on ethnicity, the educational direction set by the government is a dream.

Wondering why you get angry at the academic and administrative staff of the university? The are underpaid for their qualification,

they should stand and fight for their right.

The best way to fight for their right is to leave the university and find a job somewhere else. If one tries to fight for his/her right, he/she will be disimissed just like Ascari-Meles Zenawi fired 42 Amhara professors.



their programs underfunded and yet are training as future generation. These are the ones no where close to corruption (I mean faculty, instructional staff). You must have appreciated them. The faculty with GPA 3.80%+ teaching living on minimum wage, while his students graduated with GPA of 2.00 becomes millionaires elsewhere in government bureaucracy. They do not deserve criticism.


gpa with 3.8 is just scam, it should bring something different from ordinary ones. Universities in
African countries are going far a head compared to ours. We are stuck to stupid grade thing that doesn't bring any change. By the way gpa depends on many things such as the environment you are in, for example instructors can give you free A, or, it depend on the environment; situation may be suitable for some others and not for others(this can be a political, economical or social factor).

No, this usually excuse comes from those with poor academic performance or record. This is one of the evaluation metrics that rate a student for each of his/her course work against his/her classmates in the entire academic stay in the college. It is to say those students going to MIT,Harvard, etc with 4.00 GPA are not different from the average high school graduate. That is totally false. It is true there are certain things it cannot account for but 99% of the time it is correct. Remember it is the average of all earned works for each course - it is not just one faculy.

Also, do not forget instructors in Addis Ababa do not have resource, freedom, time to carryout research or engage in science and technology. They do not even have support to get books, journals, etc. for their teaching activities. In the developed world, education is the single most investment area of the government and the private sector. Companies and federal agencies fund research activities in different higher education institutions. They support STEM etc. programs, faculty have freedom and support to engage in productive engagements. No board can arbitrarily fire them, most are tenured or on tenure track. Addis Ababa university instructors at will, always. You have to be realistic. You should rather appreciate them. I am not saying everyone one of them are great or have the best pedagogical skill, some are political pure appointees.

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

no they are not they are under international norms.

[Abaymado]

Addis Ababa University is a Public University (Funded by Government Fund) and will remain such although it claims self governing. We for instance know the so-called " Ethiopian Human Rights Commission" and also " ዕንባ ጠባቂ", they have been part of the oppressing government. Nothing qualitative will change. Expecting academic freedom in Ethiopia where the very students are ethnically charged, faculty and staff appointment is based on ethnicity, the educational direction set by the government is a dream.

Wondering why you get angry at the academic and administrative staff of the university? The are underpaid for their qualification,

they should stand and fight for their right.

The best way to fight for their right is to leave the university and find a job somewhere else. If one tries to fight for his/her right, he/she will be disimissed just like Ascari-Meles Zenawi fired 42 Amhara professors.



their programs underfunded and yet are training as future generation. These are the ones no where close to corruption (I mean faculty, instructional staff). You must have appreciated them. The faculty with GPA 3.80%+ teaching living on minimum wage, while his students graduated with GPA of 2.00 becomes millionaires elsewhere in government bureaucracy. They do not deserve criticism.


gpa with 3.8 is just scam, it should bring something different from ordinary ones. Universities in
African countries are going far a head compared to ours. We are stuck to stupid grade thing that doesn't bring any change. By the way gpa depends on many things such as the environment you are in, for example instructors can give you free A, or, it depend on the environment; situation may be suitable for some others and not for others(this can be a political, economical or social factor).

No, this usually excuse comes from those with poor academic performance or record. This is one of the evaluation metrics that rate a student for each of his/her course work against his/her classmates in the entire academic stay in the college. It is to say those students going to MIT,Harvard, etc with 4.00 GPA are not different from the average high school graduate. That is totally false. It is true there are certain things it cannot account for but 99% of the time it is correct. Remember it is the average of all earned works for each course - it is not just one faculy.

Also, do not forget instructors in Addis Ababa do not have resource, freedom, time to carryout research or engage in science and technology. They do not even have support to get books, journals, etc. for their teaching activities. In the developed world, education is the single most investment area of the government and the private sector. Companies and federal agencies fund research activities in different higher education institutions. They support STEM etc. programs, faculty have freedom and support to engage in productive engagements. No board can arbitrarily fire them, most are tenured or on tenure track. Addis Ababa university instructors at will, always. You have to be realistic. You should rather appreciate them. I am not saying everyone one of them are great or have the best pedagogical skill, some are political pure appointees.


Gpa in Ethiopia and America is quite different, I totally abide by America's, the case closed. If GPA brings change, we would be on the top, but we are not.

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

no they are not they are under international norms.

[Affable]

Abaymado makes a sound argument in this discussion, though it seemed obvious the Gurage who took his girlfriend did not return her back to him. As for tenure, even in US there are politicians — those in the far right — who believe it to be a “privilege” that is not in tune with the time. They claim tenured professors are brainwashing young minds with “ socialist nonsense,” such as climate change, rationing of healthcare, and burdening billionaires with more taxes.
Tenured professors might be the next endangered species.

[Odie]

Horus don't bring gurage thing here when we post something. education and gurage are like fire and straw. they don't like each other.

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"gurage are like fire and straw"
ምን ማለት ፈልገህ ይሆን?
ንግግርህ በሌላ መልክ ከማየቴ በፊት?

[Odie]

Abaymado makes a sound argument in this discussion, though it seemed obvious the Gurage who took his girlfriend did not return her back to him. As for tenure, even in US there are politicians — those in the far right — who believe it to be a “privilege” that is not in tune with the time. They claim tenured professors are brainwashing young minds with “ socialist nonsense,” such as climate change, rationing of healthcare, and burdening billionaires with more taxes.
Tenured professors might be the next endangered species.

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All of them have their predicaments. In fact the right may be better if it were not for racism!
The left are also racist plus globalists who intrude in other country affairs, world war here and there and cultural interference by shoving LGBTQ+ into the throats of others. They violate family right through the same thing. So it all depends on the eye of the beholder.

[Odie]

Abaymado የምትባል አማራ ነኝ የምትል ስው እንዳንተ በትርፍ ቃል እንዳልመልስልህ ብዙ ጥሩ ስውዎችን አስቀይማለሁ::
አማርኛ ተናጋሪ የፊውዳል ርዝራዥ በመለስ ቁዋንቁዋ ትምክህተኛ ልትሆን ትችላለህ:: እንዳንተ አይነት ዘር ተሳዳቢ ከብቶች ናቸው ለዛሬ ችግራችን ምክንያት:: ስለ AAU analyse ለማድረግ ትሞክራለህ ግን ሌላ ነገር ማገናዘብ አልቻልክም:: ብርሃኑ ማን ነው የጉራጌ ተወካይ ነው ያለህ? በርሱ ስበብ ጉራጌን አትስደብ::
ምናልባት ከጎበዝ ጉራጌ ተማሪዎች ጋር አብረህ አልተማርክም ወይም አላገጠመህም:: ወይም አላወቅሃቸውም:: They have reputation for maths and science and many other things. ብዙ ልነግርህ እችላለሁ ጉራ እንዳይሆን ትቸዋለሁ:: Stop talking in stereotype. አንዳንዶቻችሁ የስውን ጭብጦ የቀማችሁት ሌላውን በማንቁዋሽሽ ነው::

[Abere]

Well, GPA is a relative figure not it varies across countries but also given cohort of students in a given field of study. However, it is a statistical metric that compare a given student overall performance. Some use 4.00 scale, others use Marks out of 100, clock hours. But there is no doubt that a student with higher GPA is more likely to be diligent in the area he/she graduated. Note: That is why there are credential evaluation and standardization agencies are created in every country. For instance, in the U.S. there are foreign credential evaluation. Ethiopia used to have that. Someone who had his masters from UK, USA, or Cuba, Germany would not be hired for the qualification unless his/her credential is evaluated by Ethiopian agency. I knew an individual whose Masters from UK was rejected and also an American whose was volunteer sent from USAID who had trouble to teach in one of the higher education institution. Remember that there are more than 4,500 colleges and universities that does not mean they are all great and Africans or Ethiopians are not. Most of us have our second or terminal degrees from the U.S and academically performed at the same level or even better than others.

Many Ethiopians high school or college graduate are also as competitive as those US students on standardized scholastic tests such as SAT/ACT, GRE , GMAT. And these students (grads from Ethiopian colleges/schools) are with 99% confidence high GPA achieving ones.


Back to the point, AAU being an autonomous self-governing body will no do that much qualitative change. Its budget relies on government appropriated fund - and the government will requires AAU to provide accountability report. Berhanu Nega is it CEO and Abiy Ahmed the top most.

Gpa in Ethiopia and America is quite different, I totally abide by America's, the case closed. If GPA brings change, we would be on the top, but we are not.[/b][/size][/color]

We

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

no they are not they are under international norms. [/size]

[Dama]

That is very amazing, the time it takes to reach this level is amazing. now anyone who want to pursue its education in any field can apply at regular level with payment. I like the idea. i have heard that it will cost 900k to study medicine in Tikur anmbsa college, that is cool even though it is expensive. that was impossible in derg era time and in eprdf time. i think this is a big change.

I am feeling that there is something wrong with our universities especially from the stuff members, they think they are at the top and they think there is nothing beyond them. And the sad thing is that they want us to stand for their right esp for example for their low salary and the likes, why don't they speak and struggle for their cause? it is really shameful to see them consider themselves as a saint. I am feeling that they are nothing, even they can't bring something new to our country. Other universities in other countries produce or introduce new technologies like producing electric vehicles, mobile phone and the like but ours are just nothing and look don't exist at all.

well I suggest it will be fine if all universities go private.

Post the link so that I understand "self-governing".
Did you mean AAU is privatized?

[Abere]

Well, GPA is a relative figure. Note that it varies across countries, but also with in given cohort of students in a given field of study across time and place. However, it is a statistical metric that compare a given student's overall performance. Some uses a 4.00 scale, others use Marks out of 100; clock hours. But there is no doubt that a student with a higher GPA is more likely to be diligent in the area he/she graduated. Note: That is why there are credential evaluation and standardization agencies created in every country to standardize and create a credential equivalence. For instance, in the U.S. there are foreign credential evaluation agencies. Ethiopia used to have that. Someone who had his masters from UK, USA, or Cuba, Germany would not be hired for the qualification, unless his/her credential is evaluated by Ethiopian agency, MOE used to be that agency. I knew an individual whose Masters from UK was rejected ;and also an American who was a volunteer sent from USAID and paid by USAID who had trouble to teach in one of the higher education institution. Remember that there are more than 4,500 colleges and universities in the U.S. but that does not mean they are all great and Africans or Ethiopians are not. Most of us have our second or terminal degrees from the U.S and academically performed at the same level or even better than others.

Many Ethiopians high school or college graduate are also as competitive as those of US students on standardized scholastic tests such as SAT/ACT, GRE , GMAT. And these students (grads from Ethiopian colleges/schools) are with 99% confidence high GPA achieving ones.


Back to the point, AAU being an autonomous self-governing body will no do that much qualitative change. Its budget relies on government appropriated fund - and the government will requires AAU to provide accountability report. Berhanu Nega is it CEO and Abiy Ahmed the top most.

As to the Faculty, academic freedom, better pay, better work place, and support for research and scientific studies is critical. The very reason why a tenure system utilized by U.S. colleges and universities is to keep and cultivate talent by protecting instructional staff(faculty) from predatory or wick appointed College presidents often provosts from terminating their employment. Turnover of faculty is a loss for an institution. In any educational institution, Students are most the first important and faculty the second most important. The Administrative appointee president are support staff, in reality. Where AAU cannot even pay livable salary to them, how can it allocate meaningful research fund to its faculty. It is unfair for anyone to accuse them of contributing nothing to advance of science and technology.

Gpa in Ethiopia and America is quite different, I totally abide by America's, the case closed. If GPA brings change, we would be on the top, but we are not.[/b][/size][/color]

We

The bottom-line, they are under Berhanu Nega. Period.

no they are not they are under international norms. [/size]

[Abaymado]

Oh my my, too many questions, I can't reach you all at the same time.
But for your information, Addis Ababa university in this year will accept only 6000 students and among them 2500 students will roll as self sponsored and the the other 2500 students will be supported by the government and about 250 students will get scholarship. At the moment students took entrance exam and the result is expected. According to their result the university will accept them accordingly.