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ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by Horus » 04 Jul 2024, 22:43

ተስማማን??? :idea: :idea: :!: :!:


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Post by Fiyameta » 05 Jul 2024, 00:45

Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today. Do the math. :P :P

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Post by Horus » 05 Jul 2024, 01:16

Fiyameta wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 00:45
Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today. Do the math. :P :P

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Fiyameta,
Ethiopia doesn't want your sovereignty ; all we want is to become a Red Sea littoral state. And, you can't stop us from being that!

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Post by Fiyameta » 05 Jul 2024, 02:29

Horus wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 01:16
Fiyameta wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 00:45
Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today. Do the math. :P :P

Ethiopia Humanitarian Crisis
https://disasterphilanthropy.org/disast ... ay-crisis/

Fiyameta,
Ethiopia doesn't want your sovereignty ; all we want is to become a Red Sea littoral state. And, you can't stop us from being that!
When did you agame become Ethiopians? Before or after signing the Pretoria agreement? You really didn't have to sacrifice 1.5 million lives just to get food-aid. We Eritreans could have given you food-aid if you begged us nicely. :P :P


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Re: ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by sesame » 05 Jul 2024, 03:22

Horus wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 01:16
Fiyameta,
Ethiopia doesn't want your sovereignty ; all we want is to become a Red Sea littoral state. And, you can't stop us from being that!
HorsAss,

There is a way out of your quagmire:
1) Dig a 1km deep hole in the ground;
2) Dig a tunnel horizontally up to the Indian ocean;
3) Build an island in the middle of the ocean;

You can have your port, but make sure the tunnel does not go under Eritrean sovereign lands. If you do, we will bury you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Jikaar » 05 Jul 2024, 04:49

Ethiopia sounds like a spoiled kid demanding lollipop from her relatives, do your homework first. No body gives a shiit of your objectives. You ain't getting any thing for free. All east African countries have nothing against. Ethiopia to utilise their ports or even share with them. Somaliland offered a bonus. You can take all your floating woods and swim in our oceans in exchange of a full recognition and half of your trade volume. And gas pipelines.

Stop this beggar mentality. Focus on the economics first and compete hostile countries like Egypt , who are more threat to the Ethiopian development prospects. I don't even think This Navy thing is necessary at all . We are in an Era where USA aircraft carriers are running away from the houthi sea drones. Warships and TANKs are both becoming useless. Ethiopia should buy missiles that can hit Egyptian infrastructures.

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Re: ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by Right » 05 Jul 2024, 07:27

F,
Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today.
I don’t think you will ever get it. Pursuing war instead of properly thinking to resolve conflicts is a recipe to extinction.
I have said it before and I will say it again with this mindset Eritrea will never be a viable country.
Eritrea policy is helping a puppet government in Ethiopia to come to power and manipulating it to build a nation. A stupid and irrelevant policy that didn’t work with the Weyannies and now OLF. It will never work.
Ethiopia will finish off little Eritrea without firing a single bullet. Close the border and deport all Eritreans from Ethiopia. Period.
Checkmate Eritrea with local Tigray forces and make them busy fighting wars forever until they figure it out how to behave.

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Post by Jikaar » 05 Jul 2024, 07:50

Right wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 07:27
F,
Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today.
I don’t think you will ever get it. Pursuing war instead of properly thinking to resolve conflicts is a recipe to extinction.
I have said it before and I will say it again with this mindset Eritrea will never be a viable country.
Eritrea policy is helping a puppet government in Ethiopia to come to power and manipulating it to build a nation. A stupid and irrelevant policy that didn’t work with the Weyannies and now OLF. It will never work.
Ethiopia will finish off little Eritrea without firing a single bullet. Close the border and deport all Eritreans from Ethiopia. Period.
Checkmate Eritrea with local Tigray forces and make them busy fighting wars forever until they figure it out how to behave.
What if the tigray sides with the Eritreans. Tha Amharas have a lot to loose. Eritreans have no problem with the Oromos. They are either against Tigray or Amhara , one shift they work on the Tigray. The next shift they work on you. Those guys never rest. They play the Ethiopians like a football :lol:

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Post by Fed_Up » 05 Jul 2024, 07:52

Right wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 07:27
F,
Eritrea's sovereignty is non-negotiable, period! If the price of testing our resolve was 1.5 million lives yesterday, it is 80 times that today.
I don’t think you will ever get it. Pursuing war instead of properly thinking to resolve conflicts is a recipe for extinction.
I have said it before and I will say it again with this mindset Eritrea will never be a viable country.
Eritrea policy is helping a puppet government in Ethiopia to come to power and manipulating it to build a nation. A stupid and irrelevant policy that didn’t work with the Weyannies and now OLF. It will never work.
Ethiopia will finish off little Eritrea without firing a single bullet. Close the border and deport all Eritreans from Ethiopia. Period.
Checkmate Eritrea with local Tigray forces and make them busy fighting wars forever until they figure it out how to behave.
You gave us all type of tools to call you low IQ chimp. Feed yourself first, Starvin Marvins aka angry agameee. As if you do have a viable nation.….

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Re: ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by Somaliman » 05 Jul 2024, 08:48

Ethiopia leads the entire world in toilet scarcity with 93% of its population lacking a safe lavatory.

Instead people must defe'cate in the open, aiding the spread of diseases such as diarrhoea.

Nearly 140,000 students are killed by diarrhoea and other diseases each year, while another 289,000 children die from illnesses caused by poor sanitation before they even enter a classroom, the report said.

Ethiopia's objectives should rather be addressing the above pressing issues and not daydreaming about a stupid naval base.

It's like getting obsessed with buying a car, while you don't even have a toilet at home!

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Post by Jikaar » 05 Jul 2024, 09:28

I believe every horn African should just think about putting food on his plate. We have no energy to fight any more. Deep down every one of us is tired of never ending useless wars.

In any case we choose the wrong way , we Somalis have nothing to loose , we are already at the bottom of the world. In reality a geopolitical war can be a good source of income for us. Because we produce nothing at all. A farmer should never fk with a herder. And a herder should never destroy the farmer. My two cents.

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Post by Abere » 05 Jul 2024, 09:56



Horus,

____It is a must for Ethiopia to reclaim and take back Assab. No Ethiopian land or people should be on exchange to recover what is stolen by Shabia under the good will of Meles Zenawi. Sadly, there is a very slim chance to effect this peacefully, the most likely option is to effect it in the battle field. There is no need to beat around the bush. The so-called Ferenji's "East Africa" which is known as Ethiopia proper is a scam to hold back Ethiopia. All these Ferenji's booby trap of creating a non-viable tiny fictitious states like Djibouti & Eritrea is a deliberate set up to be existential threat of Ethiopia. Ethiopia should blow up this kind of scam booby trap. When something an existential threat, you have to cancel it. If it is an existential threat, ignore AU ( it can leave Addis Ababa and back its luggage, if they whine), ignore UN ( aka NGO,I call it ምግባረ-እኩይ), Ethiopia cannot be a hostage.

____ The issue, however , is Abiy Ahmed really the person who can take charge of realizing this grand mission of undoing the injustice Woyane rat Meles Zenawi did? I bet, no. He is just using these all empty propaganda to his own political consumption. All OLF and TPLF rats have the promise of keeping Shabia, no matter what, at any cost possible. Did not Meles Zenawi stopped the Ethiopian army from entering into Assab during the Badme war? Why did he do? Simple, why did he even in the first place stole Assab from Wolo province and gave it as a bonus to Eritrea, illegally? The wild dream of Tigre-Tigrigna whatever cr@p . Likewise, all those OLF rats around Abiy Ahmed ( including himself), the Lencho's, Dawud Ibssa et al would never break their loyalty to Shabia, after all they are secessionist too. The issue is raised untimely and most importantly by the most wrong person.

___ Having said that, Assab is 100% Ethiopian. The 99% solution is kicking out the squeaking Shabia rats from Assab. Ethiopia can do in just a week. የዐይጥ መንገድ የሚያህል መንገድ ለሻዕብያ ከወሎ ሰርቆ መለስ ዜናዊ በአደራ አስቀምጡልኝ እንጅ አሰብ የኤርትራ የተፈጥሮ ይሁን ህጋዊ አካል አይደለም። ይችን የዐይጥ መንገድ የመሰለች ጅራት መቁረጥ ብቻ ነው።

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Post by Jikaar » 05 Jul 2024, 10:23

Hold on man you just declared war on Oromo , Tigray and Eritrea. How on earth can Ethiopia survive if you are at war with all these guys ? Why do you need a direct access to the sea when you can invest no less than 10 ports all over east Africa from sudan to kenya. If you want to reduce your population then I think you are on the right path. But if you are looking for prosperity a war is not an option. The choice is yours.

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Post by Right » 05 Jul 2024, 12:46

What if the tigray sides with the Eritreans
That is even better. You also deport all Tigrians from Ethiopia and close the border.

Both Tigray and Eritrea cannot survive without Ethiopia.
They can’t even abandon this forum. They only make noise.

Ethiopia gets nothing but trouble from Tigray and Eritrea.

If you haven’t noticed, the demographic change in Eritrea is a disaster. In just 3 decades, since independence Eritrea lost 3 million people. Without the Youth, solid educational institutes and robust economy a new nation will die in a few decades. That is exactly what is happening to tiny Eritrea.

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Post by Horus » 05 Jul 2024, 13:20

I have stated Ethiopia's objective in black and white - that she must be a Red Sea littoral state. The reasons are many into which I have no need to go. Given centuries of Ethiopian struggle against all kinds of imperial and colonial ambitions over the region and her current historical enemies both internal & external, she will and she must use all ways and means available to her - friendly, hostile, diplomatic, political, economic, military, historical and/or other methods. Therefore, the methodologies used by Ethiopian state with various bordering state will not be uniform and cookie cutter. understandably, each regional mini-state has its own 'national interest' and behaviors stemming from these interest . In short, expect a complex and multi-color drama. A long time ago, I had posted something on game theory and the ability of a given state to play this complex game intelligently. So, expect some brilliant moves as well as some follies in the behaviors of these competing, conflicting, and collaborating states. Bottom line: TRYING TO BLOCK ETHIOPIA'S EXISTENTIAL NECESSITY WILL BE THE MOST IDIOTIC OF ALL IDEAS! Have a nice day.

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Post by Horus » 05 Jul 2024, 13:29

Any country or party who opposes Ethiopia's need as a Red Sea state are proxies of Egypt and other historical enemies of Ethiopia.


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Post by Abere » 05 Jul 2024, 14:39

:lol:
You remind of Sebhat Nega, unlike Seyoum Mesfin who was spared from Amhara Special/Fano sharpshooter bullet. He once said, if Ethiopia attempts to bring back Assab he would return to Dedebit jungle and fight for Eritrea. There are quite a dozen rats in Tigray who would like to adopted by Eritrea than Ethiopia feeding their mouth now. Why do you think, Tigres carry the Woyane rat bi-color ( Yellow and Red) flag?

I say it again, as long as there are Woyane and OLF, the chance of kicking out squeaking Shabia rats from Assab, Wolo province of Ethiopia is Zero. They are the ones voluntarily signed away Ethiopian legal and natural port. They were the ones who were the cheer leaders - can they l!ck back what they spat on the floor :mrgreen: .

This guy, Abiy Ahmed, is just making a drama. He is just an artist.1) His army already weak and defeated in Amhara 2) He is psychologically Orommuma, not truly Ethiopian in his heart. 3) Why would not he officially announce Assab is an Ethiopian Red Sea coastal line instead of beating around the bush 4) He repeatedly proved, he is untrustworthy - someone must sick to trust him down the road.

However, in heart I truly believe and support any legitimate Ethiopian leader making effort to recover the stolen port of Assab. I like someone who is result based, legitimate and loyal to his country and his people. We do not have that kind of leadership yet - we are dealing ቁማር በላናቸው Orommuma - they are at village level feuds. :mrgreen:


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What if the tigray sides with the Eritreans
That is even better. You also deport all Tigrians from Ethiopia and close the border.

Both Tigray and Eritrea cannot survive without Ethiopia.
They can’t even abandon this forum. They only make noise.

Ethiopia gets nothing but trouble from Tigray and Eritrea.

If you haven’t noticed, the demographic change in Eritrea is a disaster. In just 3 decades, since independence Eritrea lost 3 million people. Without the Youth, solid educational institutes and robust economy a new nation will die in a few decades. That is exactly what is happening to tiny Eritrea.

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Re: ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by Abere » 05 Jul 2024, 14:55

Horus,

I do not think "All of the Above" be the most feasible and realistic answer. There has to a defined and effective option.

Horus wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 13:20
she must use all ways and means available to her - friendly, hostile, diplomatic, political, economic, military, historical and/or other methods.

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Re: ETHIOPIAN OBJECTIVE IN NOT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PORT, IT IS BEING A RED SEA LITTORAL STATE

Post by Somaliman » 05 Jul 2024, 15:08

We all know Ethiopia has never been able to scare Eritrea or Somalia, leave alone grabbing a portion of their lands, so keep hopelessly the usual blah, blah, blah.




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Post by Abere » 05 Jul 2024, 15:56

Eri-Woman,

If you are not scared like a rat who missed its hiding hole in the face of an agile cat, what the hell are you doing here?! You are freaking nervous because you are smelling what is coming onto you - you will be smoked out.

Somaliman wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 15:08
We all know Ethiopia has never been able to scare Eritrea or Somalia, leave alone grabbing a portion of their lands, so keep hopelessly the usual blah, blah, blah.



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