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Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 17 Oct 2023, 14:42

Something that kept me wondering since the early 90s when the Eritreans along side their tigrayan cousins defeated mengistu in 1991 . I wondered why they forced the oppressed people of Ethiopia to be under Ethiopia. Something they rejected to be under . Now I could understand these days days they supposedly support a United Ethiopia in order for their foes to be remain minority in a sea of Ethiopia the( agames )But irregardless of that is it worth it just to make sure ur agame cousins to be under Ethiopia ur willing to risk a United Ethiopia which can be a threat to ur country any freaking moment . I could care less if u turn Tigray into Swaziland now u have learned that Ethiopian leaders never learn whether they are agames the clever by half amhara . Or the ignoble gallas. They all want something which doesn’t belong to them . Guys serious debate only no name calling no profanity please let’s keep it clean dear lads .


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by sesame » 17 Oct 2023, 15:01

Because, if Ethiopia disintegrates, it will split into 20 or 30 pieces. Yougoslavia, by contrast would be a blessing. The conflicts between the various nations will go on for years. Even now, when Ethiopia has a nominal central government, millions are dying and getting displaced. Eritreans want to avoid living in a ghetto like neighbourhood. This is so elementary, one wonders what sort IQ you have to ask. Unless, if course, you see nothing wrong with living in a ghetto.


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by kebena05 » 17 Oct 2023, 15:05

Great respond
sesame wrote:
17 Oct 2023, 15:01
Because, if Ethiopia disintegrates, it will split into 20 or 30 pieces. Yougoslavia, by contrast would be a blessing. The conflicts between the various nations will go on for years. Even now, when Ethiopia has a nominal central government, millions are dying and getting displaced. Eritreans want to avoid living in a ghetto like neighbourhood. This is so elementary, one wonders what sort IQ you have to ask. Unless, if course, you see nothing wrong with living in a ghetto.



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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 17 Oct 2023, 15:39

Zack is mentally slow Tigrayan.

Ethiopia and Eritrea are in the same boat, meaning both are heterogeneous countries, This is why Eritreans (particularly the foul-mouthed Tigrinyas) support a "United Ethiopia", Just imagine Eritrea without Afar State and Tigre State.


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 17 Oct 2023, 16:46

Nonsense Eritrea is dominated by two main ethnic groups who form over 80 percent of the population Tigre and Tigrinya who have been at the for front of their liberation movement first jebha mostly Tigre and later jebha which started as mainly Tigrinya. But later the Tigre joined also in droves . Eritrea has nothing to worrry about it is own disentigration because it’s neither here or there Eritrea is more compact there aren’t any Eritrean who doesn’t want to be an Eritrean how ever 75 of Ethiopia land mass wouldn’t want to be Ethiopian if given the chance dear lads


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 17 Oct 2023, 19:11

Let's say Tigres and Tigrinyas make up around 99.99 percent of Eritrea's population, so what, what's your point? they are totally two different ethnic groups with no common culture, language and religion.

Eritrea is as vulnerable as Ethiopia to ethnic conflict and disintegration.

Eritrea's future looks like this, Fiyameta knows it.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by eritrea » 17 Oct 2023, 20:35

Zack wrote:
17 Oct 2023, 14:42
Something that kept me wondering since the early 90s when the Eritreans along side their tigrayan cousins defeated mengistu in 1991 . I wondered why they forced the oppressed people of Ethiopia to be under Ethiopia. Something they rejected to be under . Now I could understand these days days they supposedly support a United Ethiopia in order for their foes to be remain minority in a sea of Ethiopia the( agames )But irregardless of that is it worth it just to make sure ur agame cousins to be under Ethiopia ur willing to risk a United Ethiopia which can be a threat to ur country any freaking moment . I could care less if u turn Tigray into Swaziland now u have learned that Ethiopian leaders never learn whether they are agames the clever by half amhara . Or the ignoble gallas. They all want something which doesn’t belong to them . Guys serious debate only no name calling no profanity please let’s keep it clean dear lads .


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That you should have to ask such a question can be perceived as a very strange question by many Eritreans including me.

But it is so, because from the outset, most of us, don't see our continued existence from the vantage point of the current situation but from what it might look like when all hassles of reckless political whores and all the misery of ethnical and religious bigotry are cleared away from society. Because, that has been used before and still are used as a hotbed for outside interference to keep us all in eternal backwardness and poverty.

The best effective way of achieving great result within a short of time with such kind of stand point is of course if you have a big country united in the interest of all its own citizens and is interested to works for their best interest stands on your side.

But Eritrea has not yet being successful in this endevour to find a trustfull partner to tango with regarding the above stand point. And that is the reason also why we are diskussing about this issue to begin with.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Hawzen » 18 Oct 2023, 02:46

Zack wrote:
17 Oct 2023, 14:42
Something that kept me wondering since the early 90s when the Eritreans along side their tigrayan cousins defeated mengistu in 1991 . I wondered why they forced the oppressed people of Ethiopia to be under Ethiopia. Something they rejected to be under . Now I could understand these days days they supposedly support a United Ethiopia in order for their foes to be remain minority in a sea of Ethiopia the( agames )But irregardless of that is it worth it just to make sure ur agame cousins to be under Ethiopia ur willing to risk a United Ethiopia which can be a threat to ur country any freaking moment . I could care less if u turn Tigray into Swaziland now u have learned that Ethiopian leaders never learn whether they are agames the clever by half amhara . Or the ignoble gallas. They all want something which doesn’t belong to them . Guys serious debate only no name calling no profanity please let’s keep it clean dear lads .


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Great question, Dr. Zackovich.

I think the government of Eritrea has always had goodwill for Ethiopia and the people of Ethiopia. Our intention has been to see a stable and prosperous Ethiopia because that is who we are. I have never expected the inexperienced and junior Orommuma Prime Minister to act the way he has been acting recently. In fact, I always thought only the Agame clan and Amhara elites were obsessed with Eritrean Red Sea but never expected from any Oromo elites. I think this is a good lesson to take moving forward. The funny thing about the inexperienced and unqualified Oromo elites is that they are eyeing to the Red Sea which is over a thousand kms away while they have been publicly insisting Addis Ababa aka Finfine belongs only to Orommuma :lol: :lol: :lol: .

So, you are right. If I were the leader of Eritrea, of course I would never be the reason for the demise of Ethiopia since Ethiopia has already Agame and Oromo elites who don't need help to disintegrate Ethiopia. But I would never ever be proactive to the unity of Ethiopia to the level the Eritrean government has been because not only that is not our business,but it is also not worth it.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 18 Oct 2023, 04:27

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
17 Oct 2023, 19:11
Let's say Tigres and Tigrinyas make up around 99.99 percent of Eritrea's population, so what, what's your point? they are totally two different ethnic groups with no common culture, language and religion.

Eritrea is as vulnerable as Ethiopia to ethnic conflict and disintegration.

Eritrea's future looks like this, Fiyameta knows it.
Eritrea had never any religous issues between their peoples eritreans muslim christian all supported their liberation movement and their country can u say that about ethiopia
by the way the tigre and tigrinya are very close to each other they live together in many villages and also allot of things they share genetics some clans of tigrinya are actually tigre some tigre clans are actually tigirnya

ethiopia doenst have that harmony eritrea had never vere any ethnic conflict ever and before u say jebha and eplf ,, that was a political conflict not a conflict of ethnic groups fighting over land but mere about ideology
and that is the truth


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 18 Oct 2023, 13:39

Hawzen wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 02:46
Zack wrote:
17 Oct 2023, 14:42
Something that kept me wondering since the early 90s when the Eritreans along side their tigrayan cousins defeated mengistu in 1991 . I wondered why they forced the oppressed people of Ethiopia to be under Ethiopia. Something they rejected to be under . Now I could understand these days days they supposedly support a United Ethiopia in order for their foes to be remain minority in a sea of Ethiopia the( agames )But irregardless of that is it worth it just to make sure ur agame cousins to be under Ethiopia ur willing to risk a United Ethiopia which can be a threat to ur country any freaking moment . I could care less if u turn Tigray into Swaziland now u have learned that Ethiopian leaders never learn whether they are agames the clever by half amhara . Or the ignoble gallas. They all want something which doesn’t belong to them . Guys serious debate only no name calling no profanity please let’s keep it clean dear lads .


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Great question, Dr. Zackovich.

I think the government of Eritrea has always had goodwill for Ethiopia and the people of Ethiopia. Our intention has been to see a stable and prosperous Ethiopia because that is who we are. I have never expected the inexperienced and junior Orommuma Prime Minister to act the way he has been acting recently. In fact, I always thought only the Agame clan and Amhara elites were obsessed with Eritrean Red Sea but never expected from any Oromo elites. I think this is a good lesson to take moving forward. The funny thing about the inexperienced and unqualified Oromo elites is that they are eyeing to the Red Sea which is over a thousand kms away while they have been publicly insisting Addis Ababa aka Finfine belongs only to Orommuma :lol: :lol: :lol: .

So, you are right. If I were the leader of Eritrea, of course I would never be the reason for the demise of Ethiopia since Ethiopia has already Agame and Oromo elites who don't need help to disintegrate Ethiopia. But I would never ever be proactive to the unity of Ethiopia to the level the Eritrean government has been because not only that is not our business,but it is also not worth it.

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The problem in here is brother hawzen many of the so called gallas have either been raised by the agame or their Amhara overlords so a separate way of thinking will not be there . For example this fellow abiye Ahmed Ali has been raised by the agames meles zenawi and his like taught him he is a real Dedebit graduate apples fall never far from the tree

Also what we need to note in here is many gallas and agames take the whole Eritrea issue out of the play book of the Amhara so in order to wo the Amhara on their side They have to repeat Assap is ours and what not it’s all smokes sceeen and exactly adopted from the Amhara play book. Meles did it also In the border war when he wanted to wo the Amhara on his side he said he was fighting for assap for him later to lose the verdict in favour of Eritrea, it was all a policy of disguise . The objective isn’t even the Eritrea Red Sea but more about the failed domestic Fragile situation of the so called predicament Ethiopia faces at this particular time indeed .

By the way never except anything from galla their mind isn’t free from either Amhara or the agame indeed


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Dark Energy » 18 Oct 2023, 13:52

Agame Zaky,

That is a very question. Eritrean future currently is decided by a single person. You have to ask him. But, Ethiopian disintegration is a matter of when if you ask me. The population explosion with limited resources could drive the country to the ground. The minute amharas start thinking they can do better on their own, it is all over. Amhara psych twenty years ago is drastically different from today. However, Amharas will need a good and stable as well as democratic Eritrean government to the north. :lol: :lol: The enmity and competition between Eritreans and Tigrayans is over.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 18 Oct 2023, 13:57

I am for it as long as it is done I agree the Amharas have changed their mind on allot of issues and don’t longer hold on the belief to keep this empire intact it’s unsustainable to keep this country together at all cost there is a conflict between Amhara and galla there is a conflict betweenn agame and Amhara. There is a conflict between Somalis and affars and Somalis vs gallas. How on earth can u keep it then together mission impossible indeed.


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Digital Weyane » 18 Oct 2023, 14:08

የቁርጥ ቀን ወዳጆቻችን ኤርትራውያን አንድነቷ የተጠበቀ፣ ሰላሟ የተረጋገጠና የጠነከረች ኢትዮጵያን ለማየት ይመኛሉ፣ ወያኔ ዎገኖቼ ደግሞ <<ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲኦል እንገባለን>> ይላሉ። ዋይ ዋይ ዋይ ዋይ ዋይ :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 18 Oct 2023, 16:37

Thank u digital woyane for ur input dear lad


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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Abere » 18 Oct 2023, 16:53

Zack,

Because Eritrea very well knows Ethiopia is inherently a united, an indivisible and indestructible country on God’s green earth. I think you are seized by spirit of the so-called back-ward liberation front ideology for hate of Ethiopia – barren ideology without any fruit atleast for the last 50 years. Ethiopia is one of the oldest nation, temporal situation are non-deterministic. Ethiopia out lives and out lasts.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 18 Oct 2023, 17:35

Amhara are backward society who believe their own lies.


– barren ideology without any fruit atleast for the last 50 years. Ethiopia is one of the oldest nation, temporal situation are non-deterministic. Ethiopia out lives and out lasts.








Eritrea is an independent nation and member of the United Nations, Only sovereign states can become UN members.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 18 Oct 2023, 18:13

Abere wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 16:53
Zack,

Because Eritrea very well knows Ethiopia is inherently a united, an indivisible and indestructible country on God’s green earth. I think you are seized by spirit of the so-called back-ward liberation front ideology for hate of Ethiopia – barren ideology without any fruit atleast for the last 50 years. Ethiopia is one of the oldest nation, temporal situation are non-deterministic. Ethiopia out lives and out lasts.


That’s not true. Shabia or the eplf was a liberation front and they won the war and this is a fact so don’t tell us liberation movement can’t win from Ethiopia they clearly can and shabia led the way indeed



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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Somaliman » 18 Oct 2023, 20:52

Zack knows perfectly well that "We're the world" remains synonymous with Ethiopia in the minds of many people across the world and that the West in particular would be quite reluctant to allow Ethiopia to disintegrate. Unlike the mentally deranged old Afar bit.ch, SinLady, he hasn't expressed any wish for Ethiopia to disintegrate.

Therefore, to me, he's asking a legitimate and well-thought question, but it seems that none of you has so far proven to reach the required minimum threshold of knowledge and intellectual calibre that it takes to respond to his question.

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Re: Why do Eritreans support a United Ethiopia serious debate

Post by Zack » 19 Oct 2023, 14:21

Forget about sinlady I doubt she knows what she is talking about
The problems is Eritreans don’t learn form their mistake over and again Ethiopia never ever wishes them well. It always want land from Eritrea as long as Ethiopia is a threat to Eritrea and wants to take its land. Eritrea cannot prosper . The notion that Eritrea can prosper along side Ethiopia is fallacy , unless the majority of Ethiopia leadership changes it stance on things related to Eritrea which I doubt is going to happen

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