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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Aug 2023, 07:52

I know your whóre mother defecated you (uuu Joe Biden wailer), but I never thought you were this shît!


Ethiopia’s Tigray leader confirms firing missiles at Eritrea
https://apnews.com/article/internationa ... 6d8547c6dd


Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 06:53
Don’t get involved into Ethiopia don’t cry later on when u get busted don’t use Tigray as an excuse Tigray war with the central govt was a domestic issue it has no concern to u at all . Just because u border them doesn’t mean u can dictate what to do with what kilil having said that if u want to be involved in Ethiopia oke u want that right. Come re unite eritrea with Ethiopia then ur happily to get involved then u can rape ur tigrayan cousins for all I care


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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 08:02

Not sure why u insulting my mother when I have told u my mother passed away long time ago any way I know u have no sense of compassion and understanding this mindset has been removed from the shortlegged shabians because u have been thought to use profanity as it will win arguments. Any way i will tell u one thing what do u expect the tigrayans to do not fire back against the shabians. When u clearly have attacked them in their own land and invaded their territory or are u one of those shabians deneying that shabian troops were inside Tigray ?


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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Temt » 15 Aug 2023, 08:15

Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:02
Not sure why u insulting my mother when I have told u my mother passed away long time ago any way I know u have no sense of compassion and understanding this mindset has been removed from the shortlegged shabians because u have been thought to use profanity as it will win arguments. Any way i will tell u one thing what do u expect the tigrayans to do not fire back against the shabians. When u clearly have attacked them in their own land and invaded their territory or are u one of those shabians deneying that shabian troops were inside Tigray ?


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May your mother rest in peace. Stop acting like what you are not. When you talk like and smell like a hopeless Agame, no amount of denial will get you out of being a stinking one! Deal with it. Just ask the shiritam kerenite, AbyssinianLady, the whoe, eden, the lowlander, the filthy Ugum boy aka "Somaliman". Djiboutian, my foot!

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Aug 2023, 08:25

May your slût-mother fry in hell you sleaze-bag, but the rockets you launched towards Eritrea killed someone else's honourable mothers.


U.S. condemns Tigrayan leaders for attacking Eritrea
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... SKBN27X26X


Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:02
Not sure why u insulting my mother when I have told u my mother passed away long time ago any way I know u have no sense of compassion and understanding this mindset has been removed from the shortlegged shabians because u have been thought to use profanity as it will win arguments. Any way i will tell u one thing what do u expect the tigrayans to do not fire back against the shabians. When u clearly have attacked them in their own land and invaded their territory or are u one of those shabians deneying that shabian troops were inside Tigray ?


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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 08:46

And we condemn the wars and killings on. Both sides and we know u have no ethics insulting dead people have u ever called ok ur Shabia short legged cousins who have posted dead corpse u couldn’t care less so don’t act human if u don’t care about other mothers and humans don’t think some one will care for. Short legged mothers dear lad

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 08:51

Temt wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:15
Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:02
Not sure why u insulting my mother when I have told u my mother passed away long time ago any way I know u have no sense of compassion and understanding this mindset has been removed from the shortlegged shabians because u have been thought to use profanity as it will win arguments. Any way i will tell u one thing what do u expect the tigrayans to do not fire back against the shabians. When u clearly have attacked them in their own land and invaded their territory or are u one of those shabians deneying that shabian troops were inside Tigray ?


Dr Zackovich
May your mother rest in peace. Stop acting like what you are not. When you talk like and smell like a hopeless Agame, no amount of denial will get you out of being a stinking one! Deal with it. Just ask the shiritam kerenite, AbyssinianLady, the whoe, eden, the lowlander, the filthy Ugum boy aka "Somaliman". Djiboutian, my foot!

Never made the insinuation that I have anything to do with agames the problem with u shabian folks is that u. See agames every where hence u can’t think clearly dear lad

Somaliman is a pure Somali so am I
Kerenite is a pure Eritrean low lander Tigre
Don’t know Abyssinian lady is I am sure she is not Tigray either she is most likely a lowly affar only Eden could be ur tigrayan cousins that’s what I know deep down inside u know this to that I am telling the truth if I was a tigrayan I would have proudly wear my tigrayan suit , if u really thought I was a tigrayan u wouldn’t call me a tigrayan . The same way u don’t call halafi a tigrayan since u know he is a proud tembien man from Tigray who is related to general alula indeed.
But u can believe what ever u want

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Aug 2023, 09:27

Shût up!

You ugume, rape ur mothers & sisters & here you're pretending to be civilized.

Sleaze, where's ur empathy for Eritreans killed during the rocket attacks?







It all belongs to us now, though.

Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:46
And we condemn the wars and killings on. Both sides and we know u have no ethics insulting dead people have u ever called ok ur Shabia short legged cousins who have posted dead corpse u couldn’t care less so don’t act human if u don’t care about other mothers and humans don’t think some one will care for. Short legged mothers dear lad

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 09:38

U steal things that don’t belong to u and then u cry when u are karbaashed into submission short legged shabians never learn.
And now u want sympathy from us for what exactly
Today abiye has turned the tables on u . And he is using the tigrayans to crush the Amhara and that is an excellent strategy

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Temt » 15 Aug 2023, 10:12

Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 09:38
U steal things that don’t belong to u and then u cry when u are karbaashed into submission short legged shabians never learn.
And now u want sympathy from us for what exactly
Today abiye has turned the tables on u . And he is using the tigrayans to crush the Amhara and that is an excellent strategy

Dr Zackovich
Hey, ዑጉም boy, learn the difference between stealing and capturing! Duh! We captured the weapons that were stolen from the Federal army by your criminal ወይኣነs! LOL!

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 10:16

By the federal government the same federal government Tigray is part of now let’s put things into perspective have u return these wapeons back to the Ethiopian federal govt . Since u lot the shabians act more Ethiopian then the so called Ethiopians themselves
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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Digital Weyane » 15 Aug 2023, 10:32

ጁንታ ወያኔ ዎገኖቼ በኢትዮጵያ ሕዝብ ላይ ይቅርታ የማይደረግለት ጭካኔ የተሞላበት ግፍ ስለፈፀሙ ከጥፋታቸው ለማምለጥ ሲሉ በየድኅረ ገፁ ስማቸውን ቀይረው ሲንቀሳቀሱ አያለሁ። አንዱ ሶማሊ ማን ነኝ ይላል። ሌላው ዛክ ከጅቡቲ ነኝ ይላል። አንዱ የፋኖ ደጋፊ አማራ ነኝ ይላል። ሌላው የኤርትራ ተቃዋሚ ነኝ ይላል። አንዱ የኽራይሚያ ተወላጅ ነኝ ይላል። ከፀፀት ለመሽሽ ሲሉ የማያደርጉት ድራማ የለም። :roll:

ኡኔም ትግራዋይ ሆኜ ቦዚህ ሁኔታ መቀጠል በጣም ከብዶኛል። ሱዳናዊ ለመሆን እያሰብኩ ነው። :roll:
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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Temt » 15 Aug 2023, 10:33

Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 10:16
By the federal government the same federal government Tigray is part of now let’s put things into perspective have u return these wapeons back to the Ethiopian federal govt . Since u lot the shabians act more Ethiopian then the so called Ethiopians themselves
Dr Zackovich
STFU ጋዕጋዕ ዑጉም። Why would any sane person return weapons that were meant to be used to kill and maim a civilian population far away from the war zone, you knucklehead? "Dijiboutian" my foot.

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 10:50

But u said they were stolen from the Ethiopia govt isn’t it just right to give it back to the people that own irregardles of what one thinks or believes

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Somaliman » 15 Aug 2023, 11:28

Temt wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 10:33
Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 10:16
By the federal government the same federal government Tigray is part of now let’s put things into perspective have u return these wapeons back to the Ethiopian federal govt . Since u lot the shabians act more Ethiopian then the so called Ethiopians themselves
Dr Zackovich
STFU ጋዕጋዕ ዑጉም። Why would any sane person return weapons that were meant to be used to kill and maim a civilian population far away from the war zone, you knucklehead? "Dijiboutian" my foot.






So, according to your ignorant and idiotic reasoning, prisoners of war (POWs), who are held captive by a belligerent entity during or immediately after an armed conflict, should also be killed off and never be released and/or repatriated, which is against the Article 118, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention III.

Of course, the only convention or law that Eritrea respects is Afwerki, as he's the law.

Afwerki doesn't need to fu.ck all Eritrean women to make Eritrea a country of his own, as he has fu.cked you in the brain.


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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Aug 2023, 12:40



ትግራይ የጉድ ክልል

በትግራይ ክልል ውስጥ የተንሰራፋው ስርዓት አልበኝነት እዚህ ደርጃ ላይ ደርሷል። በክልላቸው ተስፋ ቆርጠው ወደ የመን ለመኮብለል በተነሱ ሴቶች ላይ ያነጣጠረ ቡድን አለ። ሴቶቹን ያግታሉ፤ የተጠየቁትን ያክል ገንዘብ ቤተሰባቸው ከፍለው እስኪጨርሱ፤ ይደበድባሉ፤ ይደፍራሉ። መክፈል ያልቻሉትን ይረሽናሉ:: የትግራይ ሴቶች ከሆኑ 8ሺህ፤ አማራ ከሆኑ ከ10 ሺህ (ዶላር?) በላይ ይጠየቃሉ። ይህ ሽፍታ ያመነባቸው ከ60 በላይ ሴቶች ታግተው በስቃይ ላይ ይገኛሉ። 6ቱን ደግሞ ገድለናቸዋል ይላል።

ገለ ዓይነት ፍጥረት እዮም እዚኦም... ነዲኦምን ንሐፍቶምን ዘይገደፉ ንኻልኦት'ዳ እንታይ ምገበሩ? ካብ ኣፎም ስምዕዎም...
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Zack wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 10:50
But u said they were stolen from the Ethiopia govt isn’t it just right to give it back to the people that own irregardles of what one thinks or believes

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Sadacha Macca » 15 Aug 2023, 19:09

Brother Zmeselo,

I respect Eritreans and their disagreement with our current system of governance, but the truth is, it is the only way to keep the country together for now.
Many of us from the south, who lost a lot (that's putting it lightly) during the conquests of the previous emperors (who couldn't have done so without European elites), want a form of autonomy and our own state(s), and of course, this will be based on ethnicity/nationality.
No system of governance is free of problems or flaws, since the very minds that designed it are inherently flawed.


Remember, what works for you and others, may not necessarily work for us. It is all context based-which is similar to the answer an Eritrean sister/official gave when asked about Eritrea's style of governance.



(Sister Askalu Menkarios, around 16:39)


Tplf, with their ulterior motives, of course, exploited it, but we've always had these problems in Ethiopia.
We have a looooong way to go, on this journey, of re-defining what an Ethiopia is; not just someone who wears white shammas, shakes their shoulders, speaks amharic, is an orthodox, and eats doro wat (which is all fine and dandy, but isn't what the majority of us do/or is).
Maybe in the future, we can mature and move on to a different system-I doubt it, but who knows?

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Aug 2023, 19:59

Sadacha Macca wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 19:09
Brother Zmeselo,

I respect Eritreans and their disagreement with our current system of governance, but the truth is, it is the only way to keep the country together for now.
Many of us from the south, who lost a lot (that's putting it lightly) during the conquests of the previous emperors (who couldn't have done so without European elites), want a form of autonomy and our own state(s), and of course, this will be based on ethnicity/nationality.
No system of governance is free of problems or flaws, since the very minds that designed it are inherently flawed.


Remember, what works for you and others, may not necessarily work for us. It is all context based-which is similar to the answer an Eritrean sister/official gave when asked about Eritrea's style of governance.



(Sister Askalu Menkarios, around 16:39)


Tplf, with their ulterior motives, of course, exploited it, but we've always had these problems in Ethiopia.
We have a looooong way to go, on this journey, of re-defining what an Ethiopia is; not just someone who wears white shammas, shakes their shoulders, speaks amharic, is an orthodox, and eats doro wat (which is all fine and dandy, but isn't what the majority of us do/or is).
Maybe in the future, we can mature and move on to a different system-I doubt it, but who knows?

I hear you loud & clear, brother.

I just hope the guns go silent, so that Ethiopians can calmly come to a decision whether the country should remain as it is or be dismembered into many pieces.

Ultimately it's the decision of Ethiopians, of course. Eritrea, can only SUGGEST what it thinks is the better option.

The reason Eritrea even talks about this issue at all is because, while the Weyane were cooperating with the EPLF against Menghistu, this was the core issue that separated them for some years. The Weyane made then a U-turn and came back with cape in hand, after the EPLF destroyed the nadew-ez in Afabet.

The EPLF thought the issue was finally resolved and the tplf has come to its senses, but Meles came with this destructive Ethnic-Federalism crâp after entering Menelik Palace.

Imagine, if he had administered Ethiopia with no ethnic division & discrimination. We wouldn't be talking about this at all, today.

Peace, to the Ethiopian people!

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Sadacha Macca » 15 Aug 2023, 20:22

Brother Zmeselo,

That is the hope that I and others have, as well.
I prefer a loosely federated Ethiopia, almost like a federated version of Ethiopia-The U.S.E-United States of Ethiopia.
A reasonably weaker central govt, with strong state governments, because we want our autonomy and right(s) to govern our own state.
In the past, elites sent their men from the north, to the south, to exploit and harm our people. They didn't bring any new crafts, arts, skills, etc, all they did was take and take; hence the reason why our country, despite being resource-rich, is still very much under-developed.
Their exploitations, in Oromia, for example, is the major reason why there's poverty in our lands despite us having enough resources to become a middle income country.
At least the Italians built stuff, such as roads, and other things (they even had afaan oromo radio programs, which haile selassie promptly shut down), both in our lands and in Eritrea. But the Abyssinian empire did nothing for us in the south, or even in the north for their own poor peasant who are still as poor as ever.


Eritreans are free to disagree, but this is bigger than the tiny (that was once over-sized and over-fed by the resources the West gave it) TPLF; because Oromo's are among the most ardent backers of a federalist style of governance, along with others such as the Sidama.
There's always been ethnic discrimination and division in Ethiopia bro, this new system may have made it more clear, true, but it's always existed.
ex: in haile selassie's time, what did they do? burn tigrinya books? forcefully impose amharic on others?
make two people or more, in court, speak through an amharic interpreter, even if they and most of the people there did not understand amharic?
Bro, I can go on and on, for days. Naga/Peace to the Horn of Africa and all of Africa bro!

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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Zack » 15 Aug 2023, 20:30

Sadacha what u don’t understand is that zmeselo wants to keep the habesha empire intact at all cost I don’t know what future plan he has but maybe that some short legged shabian might rule. Menelik palace maybe isias son I don’t know, it’s strange that a kebessa short legged that he may be . Wants to keep this evil empire intact called Ethiopia I wonder why because he sees it as an extension of his habesha eritrea. Any way what he fails to understand is that despite our differences sadacha on this one I agree with u . Amhara is and will not come back to power in Ethiopia ever again and it is the Oromo like Sidama iron and Somali and afar thst whish to have their ethnic identity to be intact I don’t want to be part of Ethiopia but I will accept the lesser of to evil never Amhara then I might for autonomy with in my mind to break away once and for all from Ethiopia


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Re: Yemane Ghebreab on Weyane's Ethnic Federalism. Said, 24 years ago.

Post by Digital Weyane » 15 Aug 2023, 20:33

የትግራይ ሙስሊም ዎገኖቻችን እስካሁን ድረስ በአክሱም መስጂድ እንዲሰሩ የወያኔ አሸባሪ ቡድን አይፈቀድላቸውም። ዲስክሪሚኔሽን። :roll: :roll:

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