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"የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by sarcasm » 16 Jan 2023, 06:35

"የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara political elite started accepting the war to dismantle constitutional multinational federalism and install unitary government system has been lost. TDF saved self rule for Tigrayans and the rest of Ethiopia. Prosperity Party has accepted constitutional multinational federalism.

Amhara political elite have started accepting started that constitutional multinational federalism has won in the battle front and will always win in the ballots. Things are moving the right direction.



sarcasm wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 09:06
Federalism is Tigray's gift to Ethiopian peoples nations and nationalities.


sarcasm wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 20:27


The Neguse Negest system is an organic federalist system devised by Ancient Tigrayans in Axum. The core foundations of the system are respect for autonomy, self-rule and differences. Hence, the Abyssinia / Ethiopian Empire has always been a federalist arrangement.

The Neguse Negest system is a federalist system where the Neguses have autonomy on their territories and pay taxes to the Neguse Negest (federal government). The Neguse Negest looks after common defense and international relations. Actually, it looks like it was HSI who ended the federalist system when he fired the Neguses but still kept the Neguse Negest title. He introduced a centralized state system into a country that has always been a federalist structure. Mengistu continued the madness of unitary state which resulted in Eritrea's independence.

The Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite / fake 'Ethiopianist' alliance have plunged the country into another bloody war after 30 years in order to re-install a centralized / unitary state system and end the existing Constitutional Federalism. Tigray has single-handedly defeated the Alliance and forced PM Abiy & his PP to commit to keep Constitutional Federalism.


On ethnic killing, he admitted that it is the politicians that are using ethnicity for political killings in Ethiopia. The politicians in previous administrations were not determined to cleanse areas from different ethnicity by killing the other ethnicity. Now politicians in some Oromia region areas are killing Amharas and the Amhara politicians in some Amhara region areas are killing Oromos. Amhara region's ethnic cleaning of Tigrayans in Western Tigray is now internationally recognized 21st century crime.




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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by TesfaNews » 16 Jan 2023, 06:52

Eden (propagandist) the war was never about Ethnic Federalism it was about who controls Ethiopia by military might... You spread misinformation

The amhara elite you are talking about are the ones that were installed by TPLF (Meles Zenawi) as a ethnic party That is loyal to TPLF.... And thus Teshager and ADP have never went against Kililawi Federalism....

Show us (self rule) in Shiraro shire axum adwa .....

There is no self rule in Ethiopia each region is ruled by elites not peoples

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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by sarcasm » 16 Jan 2023, 11:08

TesfaNews wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 06:52

Show us (self rule) in Shiraro shire axum adwa .....
It is disgusting to relish on briefly interrupting Tigrayans in Shiraro, Shire, Axum and Adwa from exercising self-rule. Tigrayans in Shiraro, Shire, Axum and Adwa have exercised self-rule for millennia. Interrupting that for few months is apparently Shaebia's greatest achievement that the likes of you gloat about. Typical Isaiasism's! Equality by subtraction is still your motto in life. You have denied Eritreans self-rule and extending that denial in parts of Tigray (albeit for a brief period) is apparently worth sacrificing over 60,000 Eritrean soldiers who have children, wives, moms and dads who are going to miss them forever.

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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by Right » 16 Jan 2023, 11:55

Anybody who thinks Ethnic Federalism is a OK is retarded.

Something is wrong with our society.
Definitely Tigrains are psycho. There will be a time that you will lose everything and migrate in all directions from Tigrai. If that hasn’t already started it will definitely start soon. You will test your own medicine.


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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by quindibu » 16 Jan 2023, 12:41

sarcasm wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 06:35
"የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara political elite started accepting the war to dismantle constitutional multinational federalism and install unitary government system has been lost. TDF saved self rule for Tigrayans and the rest of Ethiopia. Prosperity Party has accepted constitutional multinational federalism.

Amhara political elite have started accepting started that constitutional multinational federalism has won in the battle front and will always win in the ballots. Things are moving the right direction.

:lol: :lol:

I'm sure you would love this 'ethnic federalist' as well......ሕጻንን ከነንፍጡ ነው የምትወደው ይባል የለ :: :P

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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by Horus » 16 Jan 2023, 12:53

Wedi,
ያ ሳርካስም የሚባል ወያኔ ምንም እንደ ማያውቅ አየህው አይደል? መሳይ ከበደ የደቡብ ሰው እንጂ አማራ አይደለም ። ደሞ እሱ ከድሮ ጀምሮ ጎሳና ፌዴራሊዝም አብረው ሊሄዱ ይችላሉ ባይ ነበር ፣ ያዛሬ 30 አመት ማለት ነው ። ያኔ እንኳን በብዙ የፖለቲካ አማላካከቱ ብስማማም በጎሳ ጉዳይ አይጥመኝም ነበር ።

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Re: "የእትዮጵያ ትልቁ ችግር ethnic federalism አይደለም።" ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ Amhara elite accepting they lost the war against federalism

Post by Abere » 16 Jan 2023, 13:11

ሆረስ

sarcasm እኮ አውቆ አጥፊ ነው። ይህ ጉዳይ እኮ የረቀቀ ምሁር ወይ ፈላስፋ አያስፈልገውም። እንጀራ በወጥ የሚበላ ጤናማ ሰው የሚያውቀው ተራ ጉዳይ ነው። የጎሳ አገር የሚባል የለም። ሰውን እንደ ቀንድ ከብት በጋጥ (ክልል) ዘግቶ ማጋጨት ይባላል። የእነ sarcasm ፓለቲካ እኮ የቀንድ ከብቶች ጎሳ አላቸው ክልል አላቸው ብለው በሬ እና ላም አልመው ተኩሰው የሚገድሉ ናቸው።የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ የቤተ-ሙከራ አይጥ ይመስል በአለም ህግ በተከለከለ ጉዳይ ነው ሰው ማሳሳት የሚጥሩት። እኔ ነፍስ ያለው ወደ በጎ አቅሉ የሚመለስ ትግሬ ይመስለኝ ነበር። አውቆ አጥፊ ነው ከአገር ውድቀት እና ከህዝብ እልቂት ምን እንደሚጠቅም እግዜር ይወቅ። ያው ገንዘብ ነው ግን በሃስት የጨቀየ ህሌና ተሸክሞ መኖር ይሁን መሞት ደግሞ መናጢ ድህነት ነው። የህሌና ሃብት ይበልጣል ከቆሸሸ የባንክ አካውንት። ከ85 በላይ ጎሳ ያለባትን አገር በጎሳ ጋጥ ማተራመስ ኩነኔ ነው።

Horus wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 12:53
Wedi,
ያ ሳርካስም የሚባል ወያኔ ምንም እንደ ማያውቅ አየህው አይደል? መሳይ ከበደ የደቡብ ሰው እንጂ አማራ አይደለም ። ደሞ እሱ ከድሮ ጀምሮ ጎሳና ፌዴራሊዝም አብረው ሊሄዱ ይችላሉ ባይ ነበር ፣ ያዛሬ 30 አመት ማለት ነው ። ያኔ እንኳን በብዙ የፖለቲካ አማላካከቱ ብስማማም በጎሳ ጉዳይ አይጥመኝም ነበር ።


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Post by Tiago » 20 Mar 2023, 01:22

Unelected ethnic thugs

To date, ethnic federalism (where it has sometimes been known as Zenawism) has only been nominally practised in Ethiopia. Since the constitution was established in 1995, the ruling Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) has maintained power through autocratic means. Ethiopians in the nine regional states have never had the privilege of electing their own governors.

These officials have instead most of the time been appointed through informal channels by the PP leadership in Addis Ababa. In effect, the notion of self-rule – which is the fundamental principle of ethno-national federalism – has never been practised.

What Ethiopia’s different ethno-national groups had attained was cultural autonomy and the opportunity to be governed by non-elected political elites from their own ethnic group.

Until his death in 2012, Ethiopia’s strongman Meles Zenawi appointed and unseated the leadership in each regional state (including his native Tigray) at will. After his passing, this political elite, who had initially been appointed by the centre started becoming increasingly autonomous from the control of the federal government as well as its people.

Ethiopia then entered a condition of decentralised autocracy, and elite competition for power over the central government mobilised along ethno-national lines.



https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019 ... federalism


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