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Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sesame » 21 Apr 2021, 19:08

Eritrea is going to make sure that the last TPLF thug is dead before it withdraws its forces from Agameland. Our security requires it. If the USA wants Eritrea to withdraw then it must help to eliminate the TPLF terrorist gang once and for all.

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sarcasm » 21 Apr 2021, 19:52

The Eritrean narrative is least evolved and self defeating. The act of incursion or invasion into a sovereign country can potentially trigger UN military/blockade intervention under its Chapter VII - articles [39] [41] [42]. Although, the Ethiopian govt. has not made calls to the UN under those terms [unlikely to do so], nonetheless, as the Eritrean participation is considered to be impeding peaceful outcome and thus creating security risk, such mechanisms could still be taken. Again, since the Eritrean narrative was that the country was not involved [actually still appears to be so], then it doesn't really have any line of propaganda to set a narrative. This has reduced the Eritrean narrative to be nothing more than challenging the veracity of charges leveled against its armed forces.

Eritrean army is killing innocent Tigrayans at this very moment in Tigray in contravention of UN charters. Its presence in Tigray is unlawful, uninvited and criminal.

To cross an international border can only be done under self defense or consent of the host country. Otherwise, it is considered unlawful. It would have severe consequences. The only way we can mitigate that is if PM Abiy Ahmed tell the world that he invited the Eritrean army, I hope Moxie or MM come up with a fitting adage to make the position of PM Abiy clear. Eritrea, if concerned of security [which is a lie], then it only needs to move to reinforce the border area. In other words, countries do that all the time, they move troops to the border areas of their territory.

Axum, Adwa, Adigrat, Meqelle ... are not border areas. I know some Eritreans (on both sides) are assuming that their untoward sentiments against Tigrayans is somewhat justification of committing violence and distraction against them in this scale. This is not a valid war for Eritrea. Eritrea's very presence in Tigray is a dangerous violation of UN charters, this will have serious ramifications for the country in the times ahead. The massacres, lootings, rapes and the rest are in addition to the basic offense of invading Tigray. If PMAA says he invited the Eritrean troops however, that changes everything and he takes all responsibility.

It seems that a lot of Eritreans are thinking about the future ramifications of Isaias's adventurism in Tigray.
Ethiopians are saying, "ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ኣብ ዓለም ተሰሚዑ ዘይፈልጥ ንምስምዑ ዘስካሕክሕ ዘበለ ኩሉ ገበናት ኣብ ላዕሊ ትግራይ ፈፂሙ:: በዚ ድማ ኤርትራ ንወለዶታት እትኸፍሎ ዕዳ ኣሰኪምዋ ኣሎ:"

So, does Eritrea have an exit strategy? Very unlikely, judging by the way things are going. By accepting that it had opted for invasion/incursion for its own security, Eritrea assumes full responsibility for damages. The Ethiopian PM had recently estimated that the damage in Tigray is so far hoovering around $ 1 billion USD. Would Eritrea be held accountable for repaying part of this? The Ethiopian govt. had made it abundantly clear that it did not invite Eritrea into the country. So, who will assume the costs for the damages? Are Eritreans willing to foot the bill?

Ultimately, the Tigray conflict will be settled on a round table. The problem is for us, Eritrea, because we will not have a seat at the table. Rather, we are likely to end up as a meal on the table."

Once you invade a land you become the occupier. Once you break it you're going to own it. You are going to be responsible for the 6/7 million people ...


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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by Blueshift » 21 Apr 2021, 20:01

Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sarcasm » 21 Apr 2021, 20:25

Blueshift wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:01
Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!
That is not how the powers in Eritrea and people close to them feel. Thomas Mountain said, "It is not official yet; senior Eritrean Army heros gave their lives in war against TPLF coupsters in Tigray. No word after all this time means your loved one was martyred on battlefield. We all hope this is the last time we must lose our loved ones in the cause of Ethiopian peace"

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 21 Apr 2021, 20:25

Don't you get tired of posting idiocy? Eritrea doesn't need anyone's invitation to annihilate an enemy that shot rockets to its towns and occupied illegally its sovereign territory for 2 decades.
Btw there's nothing to be settled on the table. Tplf is done and dusted. You can't negotiate with the dead :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
sarcasm wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 19:52
The Eritrean narrative is least evolved and self defeating. The act of incursion or invasion into a sovereign country can potentially trigger UN military/blockade intervention under its Chapter VII - articles [39] [41] [42]. Although, the Ethiopian govt. has not made calls to the UN under those terms [unlikely to do so], nonetheless, as the Eritrean participation is considered to be impeding peaceful outcome and thus creating security risk, such mechanisms could still be taken. Again, since the Eritrean narrative was that the country was not involved [actually still appears to be so], then it doesn't really have any line of propaganda to set a narrative. This has reduced the Eritrean narrative to be nothing more than challenging the veracity of charges leveled against its armed forces.

Eritrean army is killing innocent Tigrayans at this very moment in Tigray in contravention of UN charters. Its presence in Tigray is unlawful, uninvited and criminal.

To cross an international border can only be done under self defense or consent of the host country. Otherwise, it is considered unlawful. It would have severe consequences. The only way we can mitigate that is if PM Abiy Ahmed tell the world that he invited the Eritrean army, I hope Moxie or MM come up with a fitting adage to make the position of PM Abiy clear. Eritrea, if concerned of security [which is a lie], then it only needs to move to reinforce the border area. In other words, countries do that all the time, they move troops to the border areas of their territory.

Axum, Adwa, Adigrat, Meqelle ... are not border areas. I know some Eritreans (on both sides) are assuming that their untoward sentiments against Tigrayans is somewhat justification of committing violence and distraction against them in this scale. This is not a valid war for Eritrea. Eritrea's very presence in Tigray is a dangerous violation of UN charters, this will have serious ramifications for the country in the times ahead. The massacres, lootings, rapes and the rest are in addition to the basic offense of invading Tigray. If PMAA says he invited the Eritrean troops however, that changes everything and he takes all responsibility.

It seems that a lot of Eritreans are thinking about the future ramifications of Isaias's adventurism in Tigray.
Ethiopians are saying, "ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ኣብ ዓለም ተሰሚዑ ዘይፈልጥ ንምስምዑ ዘስካሕክሕ ዘበለ ኩሉ ገበናት ኣብ ላዕሊ ትግራይ ፈፂሙ:: በዚ ድማ ኤርትራ ንወለዶታት እትኸፍሎ ዕዳ ኣሰኪምዋ ኣሎ:"

So, does Eritrea have an exit strategy? Very unlikely, judging by the way things are going. By accepting that it had opted for invasion/incursion for its own security, Eritrea assumes full responsibility for damages. The Ethiopian PM had recently estimated that the damage in Tigray is so far hoovering around $ 1 billion USD. Would Eritrea be held accountable for repaying part of this? The Ethiopian govt. had made it abundantly clear that it did not invite Eritrea into the country. So, who will assume the costs for the damages? Are Eritreans willing to foot the bill?

Ultimately, the Tigray conflict will be settled on a round table. The problem is for us, Eritrea, because we will not have a seat at the table. Rather, we are likely to end up as a meal on the table."

Once you invade a land you become the occupier. Once you break it you're going to own it. You are going to be responsible for the 6/7 million people ...


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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sesame » 21 Apr 2021, 20:33

Sarcasm,

Tigray is not a sovereign country the last time I checked. It is part of Ethiopia. Now Eritrea is in Tigray to make sure that a criminal and terrorist gang which has posed a threat to our security is eliminated. After April 13, 2002, Eritrea had the full right to evict the TPLF for refusing to vacate from our lands. The Eritrean forces will make sure that the last TPLF thug is eliminated. Our security requires it.

The only way to deal with a malignant cancer is to remove it.

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by quindibu » 21 Apr 2021, 21:00

sarcasm wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 19:52
The Eritrean narrative is least evolved and self defeating. The act of incursion or invasion into a sovereign country can potentially trigger UN military/blockade intervention under its Chapter VII - articles [39] [41] [42]. Although, the Ethiopian govt. has not made calls to the UN under those terms [unlikely to do so], nonetheless, as the Eritrean participation is considered to be impeding peaceful outcome and thus creating security risk, such mechanisms could still be taken. Again, since the Eritrean narrative was that the country was not involved [actually still appears to be so], then it doesn't really have any line of propaganda to set a narrative. This has reduced the Eritrean narrative to be nothing more than challenging the veracity of charges leveled against its armed forces.

Eritrean army is killing innocent Tigrayans at this very moment in Tigray in contravention of UN charters. Its presence in Tigray is unlawful, uninvited and criminal.

To cross an international border can only be done under self defense or consent of the host country. Otherwise, it is considered unlawful. It would have severe consequences. The only way we can mitigate that is if PM Abiy Ahmed tell the world that he invited the Eritrean army, I hope Moxie or MM come up with a fitting adage to make the position of PM Abiy clear. Eritrea, if concerned of security [which is a lie], then it only needs to move to reinforce the border area. In other words, countries do that all the time, they move troops to the border areas of their territory.

Axum, Adwa, Adigrat, Meqelle ... are not border areas. I know some Eritreans (on both sides) are assuming that their untoward sentiments against Tigrayans is somewhat justification of committing violence and distraction against them in this scale. This is not a valid war for Eritrea. Eritrea's very presence in Tigray is a dangerous violation of UN charters, this will have serious ramifications for the country in the times ahead. The massacres, lootings, rapes and the rest are in addition to the basic offense of invading Tigray. If PMAA says he invited the Eritrean troops however, that changes everything and he takes all responsibility.

It seems that a lot of Eritreans are thinking about the future ramifications of Isaias's adventurism in Tigray.
Ethiopians are saying, "ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ኣብ ዓለም ተሰሚዑ ዘይፈልጥ ንምስምዑ ዘስካሕክሕ ዘበለ ኩሉ ገበናት ኣብ ላዕሊ ትግራይ ፈፂሙ:: በዚ ድማ ኤርትራ ንወለዶታት እትኸፍሎ ዕዳ ኣሰኪምዋ ኣሎ:"

So, does Eritrea have an exit strategy? Very unlikely, judging by the way things are going. By accepting that it had opted for invasion/incursion for its own security, Eritrea assumes full responsibility for damages. The Ethiopian PM had recently estimated that the damage in Tigray is so far hoovering around $ 1 billion USD. Would Eritrea be held accountable for repaying part of this? The Ethiopian govt. had made it abundantly clear that it did not invite Eritrea into the country. So, who will assume the costs for the damages? Are Eritreans willing to foot the bill?

Ultimately, the Tigray conflict will be settled on a round table. The problem is for us, Eritrea, because we will not have a seat at the table. Rather, we are likely to end up as a meal on the table."

Once you invade a land you become the occupier. Once you break it you're going to own it. You are going to be responsible for the 6/7 million people ...




:roll: :roll: :roll:

For an Agame to cite UN Charter and International laws is akin to Satan preaching the words of the Bible. Where were these UN Charter and International laws when you squatted for almost two decades inside Eritrean territory :?:

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sarcasm » 04 Jun 2022, 15:44

Are you talking about Eritrea which is lead by Isaias? Eritrea is on ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና

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04 Jun 2022, 10:58
Alliances between parties who keep their word is useful, but if one or the other side turns out to be untrustworthy, then a better option is for them to part ways and deal with matters each on its own.

Abiy has mismanaged the woyane issue, behaving in a capricious and erratic manner. However, if he wants to make peace with woyane, or feels he needs to bribe Ethiopias with development to achieve this, or disarm Fano, or turn his back on Eritrea, or kiss Uncle Sam's feet, it is all his prerogative. It'd be a monumental failure, but still his prerogative as far as Eritrea is concerned. Isaias might feel disappointed, as he did after his friendship with Meles ended unceremoniously, but Eritreans were never part of the Isaias-Meles or Isaias-Abiy friendships and never invested in any friendship with Meles or Abiy.

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sarcasm » 22 Aug 2023, 19:41

Is Thomas Mountain telling us that the Eritrean government will not courteously inform Eritrea parents and wives of the Eritrean soldiers passed away in the War on Tigray?
sarcasm wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:25
Blueshift wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:01
Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!
That is not how the powers in Eritrea and people close to them feel. Thomas Mountain said, "It is not official yet; senior Eritrean Army heros gave their lives in war against TPLF coupsters in Tigray. No word after all this time means your loved one was martyred on battlefield. We all hope this is the last time we must lose our loved ones in the cause of Ethiopian peace"

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by sesame » 22 Aug 2023, 20:23

Considering that a million Agames perished, Eritrean casualties, if there are any that is, are miniscule. We have to fabricate figures. It was indeed a genocide of Agames: one Flit kills thousands of flies

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Aug 2023, 22:21

TM, is a free agent. No one made him the spokesperson of the Eri-gov't.

sarcasm wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 19:41
Is Thomas Mountain telling us that the Eritrean government will not courteously inform Eritrea parents and wives of the Eritrean soldiers passed away in the War on Tigray?
sarcasm wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:25
Blueshift wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:01
Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!
That is not how the powers in Eritrea and people close to them feel. Thomas Mountain said, "It is not official yet; senior Eritrean Army heros gave their lives in war against TPLF coupsters in Tigray. No word after all this time means your loved one was martyred on battlefield. We all hope this is the last time we must lose our loved ones in the cause of Ethiopian peace"

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Re: Esu Said "ኢድና ኣጣሚርና ኣይንርእን ኢና" And so Eritrea Made Sure that the TPLF thugs Were Defeated. Our Security Requires it

Post by Fed_Up » 22 Aug 2023, 22:29

Blueshift wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:01
Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!
ዴዴብ

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Post by sarcasm » 26 Nov 2023, 11:05

ትግራይ ኣርዲኦም፤ ኢትዮጵያ ኣርዲኦም። መዓስ ኢኹም ንወለድን ኣንስቲን ናይቶም ብኸንቱ ዝፈሰሰ ደም ደቆምን ሰብኡተንን ተርድእዎም? ተማሪኹ'ዶ ይኸውን፤ ተጎዲኡ ኣብ ሕክምናዶ ይህሉዶ'ኾን ኢልካ ፈጨው ኢልካ ትጽቢት ነዊሕዎም።
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 22:21
TM, is a free agent. No one made him the spokesperson of the Eri-gov't.

sarcasm wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 19:41
Is Thomas Mountain telling us that the Eritrean government will not courteously inform Eritrea parents and wives of the Eritrean soldiers passed away in the War on Tigray?
sarcasm wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:25
Blueshift wrote:
21 Apr 2021, 20:01
Sesame,

TPLF is done. TPLF can not pose any security risk to Eritrea. Why should young Eritreans die to save Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a big girl, it can handle itself. You know what the Americans have done to Iraq....don't you ? Young Eritreans should live to protect Eritrea. This war is not ours. It is Abbiy's war. You know what Se-gera's plan for Eritrea was all along !!!
That is not how the powers in Eritrea and people close to them feel. Thomas Mountain said, "It is not official yet; senior Eritrean Army heros gave their lives in war against TPLF coupsters in Tigray. No word after all this time means your loved one was martyred on battlefield. We all hope this is the last time we must lose our loved ones in the cause of Ethiopian peace"

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Post by euroland » 26 Nov 2023, 12:14

sarcasm wrote:
26 Nov 2023, 11:05
ትግራይ ኣርዲኦም፤ ኢትዮጵያ ኣርዲኦም። መዓስ ኢኹም ንወለድን ኣንስቲን ናይቶም ብኸንቱ ዝፈሰሰ ደም ደቆምን ሰብኡተንን ተርድእዎም? ተማሪኹ'ዶ ይኸውን፤ ተጎዲኡ ኣብ ሕክምናዶ ይህሉዶ'ኾን ኢልካ ፈጨው ኢልካ ትጽቢት ነዊሕዎም።
Delusional edu junti

Our heroes minimum sacrifice isn’t to no avail unlike your 1.2 million kids death to lose a half of “your” territory to your enemies, the Eris, Afars and the Amaras. Our heroes returned not only their land but also able to set a buffer zone deep inside your Chigar kilil for years to come.

Now tell us what was your 1.2 million junta’s sacrifice for?

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