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Post by Selam/ » 01 Mar 2020, 23:23

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,

1) Please stop reading too much Wikipedia. The Zulu king was defeated and subjugated. Ethiopia is the first black nation to defeat and kick out a white super power from its territory. Period! Italy had been in Africa since 1869, conquering and occupying Eritrea, Somali and Libya. They had even occupied Albania at some point. To suggest that they exceptionally sent under-equipped army to Ethiopia is a white lie and an excuse for the defeat. It is beyond lie when an african baboon called Yaballo reverberates the same crap and tries to defend Mussolini. Even if they were ill equipped, it shows how Ethiopians were superior and more organized than the white italian monkeys. You’re a piece of sh!t to say the least.



2) You make fool of yourself by suggesting that Ferenji’s defeated Italy in Ethiopia when in fact the ambush & attack of Ethiopian Arbegnoch on the enemy persisted until 1937. The British & South Africans came way after the Italians were weakened and Mussolini was isolated. They obviously speeded up his downfall in Ethiopia but the outcome was inevitable with or without the Allied forces.

Ethiopian Arbegnoch fighting the enemy:



Ethiopian Arbegnoch crossing the Omo River:


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Post by Selam/ » 02 Mar 2020, 20:14

Yaballo my disgusting Arab puppy,
You are a bottomless Pinocchio. When I whack your one serpentine head, you grow another poisonous one, hoping that your endless plethora of diversionary tactics would work. Mr beelzebub, you’re dealing with Selam who knows what s/he is talking about and can see through your damned cerebellum.

After eight months of fight in Mayichew, the Dejazmaches and Rases realized that conventional fight wouldn’t work and therefore they retreated to central Ethiopia and later to Western and Southern Ethiopia to regroup and form the strongest Arbegnoch resistance of the time. They coordinated with the Black Lion Organization, Ethiopian Women’s Volunteer Service Association & the Ethiopian Orthodox Church to distract and weaken the enemy through gorilla and urban warfare. The Black Lion was lead by the prominent surgeon Yilma Deresa. Hundreds of women from EWVSA were running insurgency cells (Yewist Arbegnoch).

As part of the EOTC, Abune Petros came from Wollo and got killed because he was protesting and denouncing the enemy through the streets of Addis. Ras Imiru went from Shire to Wollega with 600 Eritreans defectors; Lij Bitew and his wife Wagaye went from Shire to Wollega. Ras Desta also joined the insurgency from Sidamo and gave his life in Shala. Abba Jobir of Harar was initially cooperating with the enemy but he later joined the resistance in Ilibabur having learned the motives of the Italians. Moges Asgedom & Abraham Deboch came from north; an Ethiopian-Armenian young man distributed underground patriotic publications; with more than 3000 armed troops each, Haile-Mariam Mamo & Belay Zeleke gave Italians a nightmare through their hit-and-run tactics; patriot Geresu Duki & Fitawrari Tefera crushed the backbone of the fascist along the Jimma-Wollega road so on and so forth. Jagama Kelo is the other young thunder that destroyed several italian posts in the West front. I could go on and on and write a book on this but you would still not stop to grow another serpentine head.

Cursed Yaballo, the patriotic insurgency is one thing and feudal oppression or slavery another. You’re mixing two unrelated topics to feed your evil narrative and confuse yourself. I say this because there is no fool here who would buy your childish myth and sham. If you want to talk about slavery and feudalism, be my guest and create a new thread. It’s always my burden to whack your cursed head & straighten you up. KIFU!

The summer thunder, Jagama Kelo:


Grazmach Yohannes Desta on Nazareth front:


Volunteers with stacks of ammunition:


Ethiopian troops with captured italian machine guns:


An Oromo Resistance fighter:


Abba Koster Belay Zeleke:


yaballo wrote:
02 Mar 2020, 00:10
Selam,

The fact that the 'Ethiopian patriots' - rather the defenders of the horrible feudal regime that rendered all the tribes in southern Ethiopia into serfs (gebbars) & chattel of slaves - marched in the hard-to-reach bushes & mountains of southern Ethiopia DID NOT mean that they managed to make any difference to the ultimate outcome of Ethiopia being fully liberated by ferenji armies. Did it - bozo? NO!

In fact, that photo of the 'patriots' crossing the Omo River in Gamo-Gofa reminded me of what a well-known Russian historian of Menelik & part-time arms supplier to Menelik+his army wrote. He said something along the lines of: "the number one incentive of the 'habashi patriots' who operated in the jungles & mountains of southern & western Ethiopia was the free-for-all looting of local resources & the brutal massacre of local tribes in a bid to harvest the people of entire villagers as slaves to be sold in Shoa & in other upland Abyssinian markets, & to be exported (via Obok/Djibouti) to Arabia".

That is: many of the so called 'Ethiopian patriots' were nothing more than opportunistic & fortune-seeking looters & slavers! Imagine the logic of fighting against ferenjis (Italians) who were accused of wanting to enslave Ethiopians but by using resources looted by ravaging whole tribes in southern Ethiopia & by 'harvest slaves' which then are sold to buy guns with which to fight the Italians!?? Hello Ethiopia!! .. That side of the history of the so called 'Ethiopians' patriotic resistance against the Italians' is YET to be properly studied & written BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVES OF tribes in Gamo-Gofa, southern, western, etc, Ethiopia.

The troubles of poor & unfortunate Ethiopia are JUST STARTING. :oops: :oops:

photo: slave market in Axum, northern Ethiopia (1920s) ...



photo: Ethiopian slaves freed from an Arab slave ship near Aden by the British Navy (Yemen) ..


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Post by Selam/ » 03 Mar 2020, 00:16

The best sign of a liar is “changing positions.”

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
You kind of remind me the other slithy Woyane rat who is incapable of focusing on one topic. Any relation? You went from linguistics and genome to Adwa and then to 2nd Ethio-Italy war. Before the case of the Moyale Allied forces and the Wollega Arbegnoch is discussed out, you jumped on slavery and touched upon Ethiopian feudal system. You pick up one topic and jump to another with out closing the previous.

Mfkr, the underlying thesis in all the garbage you scribble is pretty clear: you hate Ethiopia. You don’t need to go around to prove this. I will second you: Ethiopia is so bad in the eyes of a rootless and inferior psychopathy. But that doesn’t change the fact that our forefathers beat the hell out of fascist Italy. If you publish your thesis disqualifying the historical facts, even Italians wouldn’t buy it. I don’t think anybody will get you out of the dumps.

Let me say one more thing on your new line before I go. If this is the first time you heard about slavery and serfdom, go back to high school and take some world history books. The White House, Capitol & Harvard were built by slaves. Greece, Rome and France were built by European slaves and peasants, not by the nobility. Venice was built on the sweat and blood of slaves from Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia, and Slavic regions. The ottomans enslaved Greeks, Balkans, East Europe & Africans. Great Britain employed Indians in their battle in Asia, Africa & Europe. Italian, British, Portuguese, German and Belgian colonial armies used African Askaris in both World wars in East Africa.

African Askari for Germany:


Dumbas’s, African-Americans fought in World War I & II even though they were not considered equal. Russia’s nobles fought along with their serfs to invade Poland. Do you think European wars were fought by elite knights only and their beautiful cities were built by nobles? K!ss my heavenly bottom. Unless you are a nomad or came from the blackhole, the practice of slavery and serfdom was virtually a universal phenomenon. KIFU!

Barbary white slaves:

yaballo wrote:
02 Mar 2020, 22:40
Selam: Cursed Yaballo, the patriotic insurgency is one thing and feudal oppression or slavery another. You’re mixing two unrelated topics to feed your evil narrative and confuse yourself. I say this because there is no fool here who would buy your childish myth and sham. If you want to talk about slavery and feudalism, be my guest and create a new thread.

Selam,

Himmm .. So there is no relation at all between habesha warlord's system of feudal slavery that rendered conquered peoples into feudal slaves (gabbar/serfs) & chattel slaves to be sold-off in domestic & Arab markets .. & the battle of Adwa? .. Himmm.

I give one minor example to illustrate how:

a) - how there is a direct & functional correlation between the feudal-slave system of Ethiopia & the battle of Adwa &,

b) - how, in fact, the main reason - the raison de eter - of the battle of Adwa was to defend or protect this same feudal slave system from ferenjis who threatened it.

As you might've heard, many of Menelik's ravaging wars of conquest that rendered previously sovereign kingdoms of southern Ethiopia was completed in the same decade that the battle of Adwa was fought (1890s). One of the most brutal, bloodiest & protracted wars on southern tribes was the one waged against the Wolamo/Wolaita people & kingdom.

After a series of defeats (at least 6) sustained at the hands of the most heroic & formidable Wolaita warriors, Menelik's forces finally managed to defeat the indomitable Wolaita people.

As a revenge, Menelik2 ordered the taking of a large percentage of the people of Wolaita as slaves & the confiscation of the entire resources of the Wolaita as a war booty. These resources included: food grains, cattle, horses, mules, donkeys, sheep+goats, jewellery &, of course, the Wolaita people as CHATTEL SLAVES (men, women, children!) to be driven to Shoa & Addis Ababa along the cattle, donkeys, etc, also taken from the Wolaita people.

Menelik's order also indicated that Woialta slaves had to carry the bulk of the booty grains & other resources on their backs, heads & shoulders to trott along side the donkeys & mules that transported the looted resources to Shoa! .. Many of the Wolaita slaves were sold in Ethiopia's internal slave markets while most of the younger slaves (girls & boys) were exported to Arab slave markets via the ports of Tadjura & Obok (Djibouti). It was the hard-cash in silver that was earnt from slave exports that funded the importation of guns & ammunition used by Menelik's soldiers at the battle of Adwa & in other wars!! :oops:

Out of hundreds of thousands of Wolaita slaves transported to Shoa, thousands were forced to join the 20, 000+ slaves from southern tribes recruited by Menelik's officials to carry the food rations of soldiers all the way from Shoa to Adwa! It was this food ration - carried on the backs & heads of Wolaita & other southern slaves - that sustained most of the feudal warlords & their retinue of soldiers that marched off to Adwa not so much to defend the Ethiopians' liberty & freedom (most had none for being gebars/serfs & slaves); but to defend the feudal slave system that fed & sustained these parasitic & primitive negro slave masters! ..

Oh, guess whose food resources were loaded onto the backs & heads of those 20,000+ Wolamo, Gurage, Gamo, Shanqila, Oromo, etc, slaves & transported to the battle fields of Adwa?? .. Yes, food grains & cattle (for meat) looted from Oromo farmers in Shoa, Arsi & Wollega as part of habesha's feudal slave system (gebbar system)! .. So, take-out that stone head of yours out of your smelly [deleted] :shock: & try to find the southern - or ferenji's - perspective of all things Ethiopian, including the history of the battle of Adwa. 8) OK? Good Luck! .. Nagaatti.









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Post by Selam/ » 03 Mar 2020, 08:31

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
Did you really read what I said earlier? Ethiopians beat the hell out of fascist Italy in both wars. It doesn’t matter whether they did it using Tabots, prayers, arbegnoch, serfs, slaves and servants, or using lions, mules, donkeys, dogs, and Ferenji’s. It doesn’t really matter what the make-up and structure of the resistance was. That is just a side story. First and foremost, they broke the backbone of the enemy through brilliant and well-organized military and insurgency strategies. And there were outstanding men and women behind theses forces that put together a plan, brought people together, attacked the enemy and re-secured our victory & independence. That’s is the end of the story. And I didn’t make that up, it’s in the books. Everything that I said is based on synthesis of historical facts unlike your pile of dung. Give me a link to any original reference that says otherwise. But please keep the fictions of TSEGAYE Ararsa in your arse.

The reason why you keep on interjecting all these side stories is just to excuse Italy’s defeat and to substantiate your hatred. In fact, it’s solely to substantiate your hatred because even the enemy doesn’t recognize your revisionist story. As a matter of fact, hatred doesn’t really need any justification. If both the beginning and end of your arguments are hatred, everything in between is a pack of falsehood and trash.

It’s kind of funny that you ridicule the slave trade in East Africa. Unless you’re like the baboon that ridicules the monkey with a scarlet booty in front of her or unless you’re an Arabanized camel herder, somewhere down the line one of your ancestors had been either a victim or a perpetrator of slavery one or the other way. So, don’t try to narrate this as if you’re an outsider. Highlanders, lowlanders, muslims, Christians, men, women and children were sold into slavery from all walks of life. It is a horrible historical fact that affected the world and specifically African countries. That being said, remember that Ethiopia defeated Italy. The ball is in the goal. What you gonna do? KIFU!

yaballo wrote:
03 Mar 2020, 02:07
Selam;

It is you who keep deflecting the issues I raise in relation to Ethiopia by trying to justify them by finding similar scenarios in other parts of the world. All my posts under this thread are meant to counter the silly & wrong claims you - your friends made. For example, I discussed the fate of the Wolaita people as slaves that virtually financed the battle of Adwa. But, you launched into attacking me & advising me to find text books on slavery because such an institution is universal. DUH! ..

On a separate note, If you ever get a chance to travel through Nairobi (Kenya), try to make a brief detour to the Island of Zanzibar to appreciate the horrors of African slave systems & the Arab/Swahili slave trade. It is most revealing & worth more than entire libraries of books on slavery in terms of its impact on a person's emotions.

Alternatively, try the dusty port of Tadjura (Djibouti) from where the bulk of slaves from Ethiopia were exported to the Arab world, Asia & even as far as China. It is very moving but many of the tale-tell signs have now disappeared under the dust & due to neglect. You might need to find an informed guide for that.

Sadly, the hapless young Ethiopians & would-be migrants to the Arab Peninsula (see pictures below) also use exactly the same old slave route & slave port of Tadjura. SAD. HAYAYA .. YAYA YAYA .. :
oops: BYE.




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Post by Selam/ » 04 Mar 2020, 00:16

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
Ethiopia existed for thousands of years without contact with Ferenjis and modern medicine. How did the people sustain for such long period of time? Was ferenji’s medicine raining from the sky or were your cursed ancestors contra-banding them through Moyale? And you know what the ferenjis brought with them to Ethiopia? They brought deadly viruses and bacterias of hitherto unknown diseases such as gonorrhoeae, syphilis, smallpox, plague, tuberculosis, measles, typhus, cholera, etc. Inferior Yaballo, for you these epidemics are a gift from your masters and therefore you can frame and hung them on your walls.

leprosy in Europe:



Lymphatic filariasis in Europe:



1) I already jumped up and down and celebrated Adwa for crushing fascist Italy 124 years ago while you were frowning and yawning. I can’t wait to celebrate Patriots' Victory Day on May 05. What you gonna do?



2) immature Yaballo, you’re conflicting yourself. Yes, Oromos fought against fascist Italy with vigor and bitterness along side with other Ethiopians. No question about that. But it’s only in a dense and thick brain that someone fights his enemy so the enemy liberates him. If General Jagama Kello was alive, he would have whipped your infantile arse with a poison ivy because you don’t deserve more than that.

3) Menial Yaballo, Ras Mengesha Seyum is alive and doing well. He would definitely give you a wedge for insulting his great great grandfather, Yohannes IV, who destroyed the Ottomans in Guda-gude and Gura in 1875/6 with Alula and the Italians in Dogali in 1887. How dare you try to lower him to your sheer slave mentality? You are a piece of sh!t.

Atse Yohannes & Alula battling Italy:




4) There are bandas everywhere in history. You’re one of them, for example. Your argument is not only incoherent but also very muddled. Let’s see: the Amharas didn’t fight; they were in fact bandas; the Tigreans embraced fascist Italy and wanted to be colonized; the Oromos wanted the enemy to liberate them; the Southern people were hired by the Amharas as soldiers to fight the invaders, etc. WTF is all that? I don’t think I need to comment on such pile of dung. It’s childish and maniac. Even my puppy who celebrated Adwa with me is disgusted.

5) The same crap as (4.


yaballo wrote:
03 Mar 2020, 18:48
Selam, yene genfo fit gudeela;

photo: a large percentage of Ethiopians suffered from a terrible diseases such as Elephantiasis when Italians arrived. The Italians spearheaded a concerted campaign against this disease & others. In doing so, their effort saved generations of Ethiopians from this terrible curse. Had they stayed 5 more years, this & many other diseases could've been eradicated from Abyssinia & all Italian colonies in east Africa.



1) - You can jump up & down, side ways & dance in the rains of your host ferenji coutry that actually saved you from your horrible homeland of Aethiopia as much as you like, but the facts remain just that! ... Ethiopia is the ONLY country in Africa that was liberated from colonialism by BLONDE European+Apartheid South African soldiers & generals - which is a terrible shame that the baboonish primitive rulers of that oldest-failed-state in the world - Aethiopia - tried to hide to no avail.

2) - Most of those who went to bushes & tried to resist the Italians were ethnic Oromos who were employees of the habashi crown as police & soldiers (the equivalent of today's OPDO gobanas) & some Amharas who fought to recover their gabbar slaves & gabbar land taken from them by the Italians. Remember that those who founded 'The black lion' regiment in Ambo & led the resistance against the Italians were mostly Oromo soldiers who served in Haile Selassie's police force, etc. The vast majority of Oromos, southern tribes, Tigres, Somalis, Afars, etc, saw the Italians as their liberators from the primitive & vampire-ish habashi slave masters & feudal parasites. This aspect of the Ital o-Abyssinian wars is yet to be properly told/written.

3) - The vast majority of non-habashi tribes & habashi Tigres SUPPORTED the Italian colonial rule in Abyssinia simply because they reasoned that the Italians were effectively the liberators of their own people from the horrible Amhara/habashi feudal despotism that kept the locals not only in abject poverty but perpetually enslaved. The natives reasoned that Italians were like saints sent from the gods when compared to the most primitive & sadistic habashi feudal & vampire fascists. Remember: the vast majority of the tribes welcomed the Italians simply because they hated the primitive habashi/Amhara vampires that lorded over them.

4) - Remember that there are as many as two million 'banda soldiers' recruited from non-Amhara tribes from the emipire of eternal misery aka Abyssinia. Most saw this as a mana of job opportunity sent from the gods & a chance to punish their vampiris-ish habashi/Amhara overlords. The natives of Abyssinia mounted a flimsy, disorganised & completely ineffective resistance against the Italian colonisers who MAINLY because the vast majority of non-habesha tribes supported the Italians!

5) - Many - I would say most - members of the Amhara ruling classes such as prominent feudal lords, bishops & top priests of the orthodox church were co-opted by the Italians & served as spies on the so called 'Ethiopian patriots' or their extended families. Their role as prominent bandas was one of the reasons why the hopeless habashi rebellion against the Italians was completely ineffective. [See video clips below showing: a) the Amhara elites being honoured by the Italian generals for their services as premiere bandas, b) the habashi orthodox church blessing the commander of the Italian invasion forces - general Rodlfo Graziani - with the 'tebel' of the orthodox church at the most sacred habashi orthodox church in Axum].

VIDEOS: Now, watch the videos & see if any of the banda names mentioned in these Italian video clips sound familiar to you. Some of them are likely to be your relatives. :shock: Good Luck.

video: Italian generals honouring prominent Amhara feudal lords & orthodox church elites who served them well as banda spies on 'Ethiopian resistance fighters', etc.

<<ይህንን ቪዲዮ ለጠቅላይ ሚኒስትሩ አብይ አህመድ ፣ ለተክሌ ይሻው ፣ለታማኝ በየነ ፣ ለስዩም ተሾመ፣ ለናትናኤል መኮንን ለሌችም ይድረስ
የጉድ ሀገር :

ከጀኔራል ግራዚያኒ ጋር በገነት ልዕል ቤተ መንግስት የሃገሪቱ ስመ-ጥር የሰለሞን ስርኦ መንግስት አልጋ ወራሾች ነን ባይ ባላአባቶች እነ ደጃዝማች ከበደ :እነ ራስ አያሌው ብሩ (28ኛው ሴከንድ ላይ የሚታዩት) እነ ራስ ካሳ አረ ስንቱን ተጠርቶ ስንቱን ይተው ልዩ የክብር የእራት ግብዣ ፕሮግራም ታሪካዊ ቪዲዩ ነው::

እነዚህ ከ250,000 በላይ የባንዳ ጦር መሪ ባላአባቶች ከፋሽስት ቤኒቶ ሞሶሎኒ የተላከላቸውን ስጦታና የማዕረግ እድገት ከጀኔራል ግራዚያኒ ለመቀበል በፊንፊኔ ገነተ ልዑል ቤተ መንግስት 6 ኪሎ ተኮልኩለው::>>


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video: the habashi orthodox church blessing the commander of the Italian invasion forces - general Rodolfo Graziani - with the 'tebel' of the orthodox church at the most sacred habashi orthodox church in Axum.



video: habashi orthodox church Amhara priests in Shoa & Addis Ababa blessing Italian generals &, in turn, being honoured by Italian generals for their services to Mussolini's East Africa Empire.


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Re: ግሪክና አረቦች ግብጽን ከመውሰዳቸው በፊት ኢትዮጵያ ነበርች ፤ አሜሪካ አገር ሆኖ ሲፈጠር ኢትዮጵያ የጎንደር ግምብ ትሰራ ነበር !! ኢትዮጵያ ምን እንደ ሆነች ትራንፕን አስተምሩ !!

Post by tlel » 04 Mar 2020, 03:23

yaballo wrote:
03 Mar 2020, 18:48
Selam, yene genfo fit gudeela;

photo: a large percentage of Ethiopians suffered from a terrible diseases such as Elephantiasis when Italians arrived. The Italians spearheaded a concerted campaign against this disease & others. In doing so, their effort saved generations of Ethiopians from this terrible curse. Had they stayed 5 more years, this & many other diseases could've been eradicated from Abyssinia & all Italian colonies in east Africa.



1) - You can jump up & down, side ways & dance in the rains of your host ferenji coutry that actually saved you from your horrible homeland of Aethiopia as much as you like, but the facts remain just that! ... Ethiopia is the ONLY country in Africa that was liberated from colonialism by BLONDE European+Apartheid South African soldiers & generals - which is a terrible shame that the baboonish primitive rulers of that oldest-failed-state in the world - Aethiopia - tried to hide to no avail.

2) - Most of those who went to bushes & tried to resist the Italians were ethnic Oromos who were employees of the habashi crown as police & soldiers (the equivalent of today's OPDO gobanas) & some Amharas who fought to recover their gabbar slaves & gabbar land taken from them by the Italians. Remember that those who founded 'The black lion' regiment in Ambo & led the resistance against the Italians were mostly Oromo soldiers who served in Haile Selassie's police force, etc. The vast majority of Oromos, southern tribes, Tigres, Somalis, Afars, etc, saw the Italians as their liberators from the primitive & vampire-ish habashi slave masters & feudal parasites. This aspect of the Ital o-Abyssinian wars is yet to be properly told/written.

3) - The vast majority of non-habashi tribes & habashi Tigres SUPPORTED the Italian colonial rule in Abyssinia simply because they reasoned that the Italians were effectively the liberators of their own people from the horrible Amhara/habashi feudal despotism that kept the locals not only in abject poverty but perpetually enslaved. The natives reasoned that Italians were like saints sent from the gods when compared to the most primitive & sadistic habashi feudal & vampire fascists. Remember: the vast majority of the tribes welcomed the Italians simply because they hated the primitive habashi/Amhara vampires that lorded over them.

4) - Remember that there are as many as two million 'banda soldiers' recruited from non-Amhara tribes from the emipire of eternal misery aka Abyssinia. Most saw this as a mana of job opportunity sent from the gods & a chance to punish their vampiris-ish habashi/Amhara overlords. The natives of Abyssinia mounted a flimsy, disorganised & completely ineffective resistance against the Italian colonisers who MAINLY because the vast majority of non-habesha tribes supported the Italians!

5) - Many - I would say most - members of the Amhara ruling classes such as prominent feudal lords, bishops & top priests of the orthodox church were co-opted by the Italians & served as spies on the so called 'Ethiopian patriots' or their extended families. Their role as prominent bandas was one of the reasons why the hopeless habashi rebellion against the Italians was completely ineffective. [See video clips below showing: a) the Amhara elites being honoured by the Italian generals for their services as premiere bandas, b) the habashi orthodox church blessing the commander of the Italian invasion forces - general Rodlfo Graziani - with the 'tebel' of the orthodox church at the most sacred habashi orthodox church in Axum].

VIDEOS: Now, watch the videos & see if any of the banda names mentioned in these Italian video clips sound familiar to you. Some of them are likely to be your relatives. :shock: Good Luck.

video: Italian generals honouring prominent Amhara feudal lords & orthodox church elites who served them well as banda spies on 'Ethiopian resistance fighters', etc.

<<ይህንን ቪዲዮ ለጠቅላይ ሚኒስትሩ አብይ አህመድ ፣ ለተክሌ ይሻው ፣ለታማኝ በየነ ፣ ለስዩም ተሾመ፣ ለናትናኤል መኮንን ለሌችም ይድረስ
የጉድ ሀገር :

ከጀኔራል ግራዚያኒ ጋር በገነት ልዕል ቤተ መንግስት የሃገሪቱ ስመ-ጥር የሰለሞን ስርኦ መንግስት አልጋ ወራሾች ነን ባይ ባላአባቶች እነ ደጃዝማች ከበደ :እነ ራስ አያሌው ብሩ (28ኛው ሴከንድ ላይ የሚታዩት) እነ ራስ ካሳ አረ ስንቱን ተጠርቶ ስንቱን ይተው ልዩ የክብር የእራት ግብዣ ፕሮግራም ታሪካዊ ቪዲዩ ነው::

እነዚህ ከ250,000 በላይ የባንዳ ጦር መሪ ባላአባቶች ከፋሽስት ቤኒቶ ሞሶሎኒ የተላከላቸውን ስጦታና የማዕረግ እድገት ከጀኔራል ግራዚያኒ ለመቀበል በፊንፊኔ ገነተ ልዑል ቤተ መንግስት 6 ኪሎ ተኮልኩለው::>>


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video: the habashi orthodox church blessing the commander of the Italian invasion forces - general Rodolfo Graziani - with the 'tebel' of the orthodox church at the most sacred habashi orthodox church in Axum.



video: habashi orthodox church Amhara priests in Shoa & Addis Ababa blessing Italian generals &, in turn, being honoured by Italian generals for their services to Mussolini's East Africa Empire.

I think you think we can be fooled, when you blatantly cherish colonialism, you can't be from any of Ethiopia's tribe and indeed your writing is typical propoganda style written to demean Ethiopians can only mean you are part of the colonialists

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Re: ግሪክና አረቦች ግብጽን ከመውሰዳቸው በፊት ኢትዮጵያ ነበርች ፤ አሜሪካ አገር ሆኖ ሲፈጠር ኢትዮጵያ የጎንደር ግምብ ትሰራ ነበር !! ኢትዮጵያ ምን እንደ ሆነች ትራንፕን አስተምሩ !!

Post by Selam/ » 04 Mar 2020, 10:09

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
I only read and accept historical writings that have been interpreted using facts gathered from primary sources of evidence. I also acknowledge legitimate academic pursuit of re-interpretation of historical records that question the aforementioned views. To that effect, my library is filled with historical books written by Raymond Jonas, Adolf Parlasac, Chris Prouty, Pamela S. Brown & Fassil Yirgu, Sean McLachian, and Bahru Zewdie. What I don’t accept is disconnected narratives, fictions and distortions of historical records by spin doctors, pseudoscholars and hateful politicians. I flush such writing down the drain. That is where your occult godfathers Tesfaye Gebreibab’s & Tsegaye Ararsa’s propaganda belongs.

Bud, no sane person takes you seriously when your underlying argument is based on HATE. All your nonsensical rumblings fail to cross the lowest threshold of scholarly writings. A hater can’t write history. For example, I admit that I don’t qualify to write about Woyanes because I bitterly hate them.

1) - Yours isn’t at all a challenge to the accepted historical view. It’s just a piece of hateful myth and propaganda that is made in abyss.

2) - Even the IRREFUTABLE FACT published by Mussolini admitted that they were defeated, recognizing Ethiopia as the first African country to drive invading Europeans out of its territory and safeguarding its timeless independence. She then became a beacon of African hope for freedom from colonialism and white persecution.

3) - Obviously, Fascist Italy used Ethiopian bandas and collaborators to divide and dismantle the Ethiopian resistance. Lured by money and material support many Yejju, Raya, Azebo, and Danakil Oromos fought with the enemy in Mayichew. Others paved roads and built bridges for the enemy to earn a living just like those Addis voters who came out to Meskel Square when Woyane paid them and then voluntarily flooded the square the next day in support of Kinijit. Aside from Gugsa, Ras Hailu of Gojjam, Abba Jobir of Harara, Ras Seyoum Mengesha of Tigray, Blatta Tesfaye Naqi of Shoa were on Italy’s payroll. Not only money but obviously the inherent rivalry with the monarch was also the reason for their defections. Why is this surprising to you? There are defectors and conspirators in any war.

a) through d) All bull crap. You always mixup ferenji worshiper fringe elites with the general public. If all these people of Oromo, Ogaden, and Beneshangul sought colonialism and slavery at the time when Ethiopia was weak, what prohibited them to do so? You are either talking about the complaints of a handful of burgeons or the Ethiopian monarchs were so intact and super smart that they managed to convince the Europeans and subdue the revolts. Where did all this diplomatic and military prowess come from if you dismissed them as nonexistent in your earlier scribblings? I can’t stop laughing at your immaturity and incoherence. You can’t write a single paragraph without conflicting your self.

The Italians didn’t come to improve the lives of Ethiopians. They came to loot our coffee, minerals and natural, spiritual and historical knowledges. They brought with them infectious diseases that were nonexistent in our history before. They also left behind delusional and narcissistic behaviors like that of yours. I am willing to cover your travel expenses if your masters volunteer to cure your chronic psychosis in Rome. They will elevate your disease from psychosis to schizophrenia and send you back to your cocoon with malware implants. KIFU!

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