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[Odie]

Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s support base primarily consists of the pan-Ethiopian, state-centric elites within the ruling Prosperity Party. Demographically, his support is anchored by urban Oromo populations, portions of the urban middle class, and various marginalized southern groups that historically sought representation outside of the Tigray-led EPRDF coalition.

The primary ethnic and demographic dynamics of his coalition include:

* Urban and Moderate Oromo: Hailing from the Oromia region himself, Abiy's core political base Prosperity Party is rooted in Oromia, particularly among younger, urban, and reformist demographics who favor centralized governance over strict ethnic federalism.

* Pan-Ethiopian Elites and Nationalists: Supporters include those who identify strongly as "Ethiopianist" rather than adhering to rigid ethnic lines. They strongly favor Abiy’s policy of dismantling older, ethnic-based power structures to form a united national identity.

* Southern Nations (SNNPR): His government has retained considerable backing among various smaller ethnic groups in the Southern Nations, Nationalities, and Peoples' Region (SNNPR) who see his administration as offering a more balanced power dynamic than previous regimes.

* Evangelical and Pentecostal Christians: Demographically, Abiy is a practicing Pentecostal, and he draws considerable support from Protestant and Muslim communities that were historically marginalized under previous administrations.

[Dama]

Odious
Enemies of your faith do not deny that PP has a large Amara support. What they say is PP cannot be overthrown by peaceful struggle. They wan you to take up arms to fight Abiy Ahmed, a man of your minority Pente faith.
They discount Peaceful political oppositions as nothing, including the largest opposite to PP, Gogot: Gurage Unity and Justice Party that has fielded candidates in all cities of Ethiopia except Tigrey and Western Fistula country.

[Odie]

The rest of your garbage aside, Amhara progressives and some progressive Tigrians support him!
I have no objection to that and it is not showing well in that post. Actually he roots more on Oromo and Amhara progressives . Many many diaspora too which I am happy with! I hate backward exploiting Neftegnas and their wish to bring back amaracentric stagnant oppressive ethiopia!

[Dama]

The rest of your garbage aside, Amhara progressives and some progressive Tigrians support him!
I have no objection to that and it is not showing well in that post. Actually he roots more on Oromo and Amhara progressives . Many many diaspora too which I am happy with! I hate backward exploiting Neftegnas and their wish to bring back amaracentric stagnant oppressive ethiopia!

Only because they rejected your minority Pente faith. You were ok with all their fistula chauvinism, qumtina, p*mping and pr*stitition, until you foolishly tried, if not to directly impose your Pente faith on them but certainly you were telling them how their Orthodox faoth was fake. That backfired on you.
When you failed there, you espoused a fake Gurage nationalism that only responds to their pejoratives but not against murders and massacrss of Gurages by terrorists. The human rights to life you cried for the armadillos massacred, you did not accord same tears to Gurages massacred. You gave your reason: You left Gurage long time ago. Since then, you lost Gurage idenity on top of your family being married to various specious of humans.
Odie, you are a cruel and inhumane Gurage hater. Good luck with your new tribe. Hope they accept you as a minority faith in the sea of Orthodoxy. I am sure they won't. "Tewahed" is their call.

[Horus]

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ግሩም አቅጣጫ ነው የጀመርከው።

በኢትዮጵያ ሶሺያልና የፖለቲካ ሳይንስ የለም ፣ ስለሆነም ትክክለኛ የሶሺያልና ፖለቲካ ትንተና የለም ። ያለው ድንቁርናና ቁጣ ፣ ጥላቻ ብቻ ነው ።

እያነሳሃው ያለው ጥያቄ ይህ ነው ...

ለምንድን ነው ያቢይ መንግስት በስልጣን ላይ ያለውና የሚኖረው?

ባገሪቱ ውስጥ ካሉት የፖለቲካ ። ኢኮኖሚና ማህበራዊ መደቦች ውስጥ የተኞቹን ጥቅም ነው አቢይ የሚወክለውና የሚያራምደው?

እነዚህ ናቸው የአንድን መንግስትና አገዛዝ ምንነትና ጸባይ የሚነግሩን ትንተናዎች እንጂ ምድረ ደንቆሮ ባቦሰጡኝ የሚዘረጥጡት ዘለፋ አይደለም ።

አንተ የጀመርከውን የመደብ ፣ ኢኮኖሚና ሶሺያ ትንተና ቀጥልበት ።

ለምሳሌ፡
ብሄራዊ ቡርዡዋው ያቢይ መሰረት ነው ። ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ አገር በቅልና ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው ። ዛሬ ላይ 100% ያቢይ ደጋፊና ግማሹን ኮሪደር በራሳቸው ሃብት እያሰሩለት ነው።

ሌላው መርሳት የሌለብህ አዲስና በፍጥነት እያደገ ያለው የገጠር (የእርሻ) ቡርዡዋ መደብ ነው ። እርዛው እየዘመነ ሄዶ ፣ የምርትና የክብት ዋጋዎችን በከተሜው ላይ በማስወደድ እጅግ በፍጥነት እየከበረ ያለና ያቢይ 100% ደጋፊ መደብ ይህ የገጠር ከበርቴ መደብ ነው ።

ከዚያም በብዙ ሚሊዮኖች የሚቆጠረው ዝቅተኛና መካከለኝ የነጋዴ መደብ በጣም እጅግ ወሳኙ ያቢይ መሰረት ነው። አመለካከቱም እንደ ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው።

ይህ ሁሉ ብልጽግና ከሚለው ያቢይና መንግስት አይዲዮሎጂ ጋር የሚሄድ ነው ።

ሌላው ከአለም አቀፍ ካፒታል ጋር (ከግዙፍ የውጭ ኢንቬስተርስ) ጋር አብሮ እያደገ ያለ ያገር ውስት ከበርቴና ፕሮፌሽናል መደብ አለ ። ወጣትና ተራማጅ የሆነ ጎሰኛም ሆነ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ካቢይ የመደመር መንግስት ጋር የተሳሰረ መደብ አለ።

ስለዚህ እንደ ጃዋር ፣ እንዳርጋቸው ፣ ፋኖና ኦላ ፣ ለምንድን ነው ፖለቲካው መሬት መውረድ ያቃተው ፣ ለምድን ነው አንዳች ሳቢነት ያጣው ብለህ ስትጠይ መልሱን የምታገኘው በጀመርከው የመደብ ፣ የሶሾያ ኢኮኖሚና ፖለቲካ ትንተና መንገድ ስታስብ ነው ።

ስለዚህ አጀማመርህ ተመችቶኛል።

[Odie]

ኦዴ፣
ግሩም አቅጣጫ ነው የጀመርከው።

በኢትዮጵያ ሶሺያልና የፖለቲካ ሳይንስ የለም ፣ ስለሆነም ትክክለኛ የሶሺያልና ፖለቲካ ትንተና የለም ። ያለው ድንቁርናና ቁጣ ፣ ጥላቻ ብቻ ነው ።

እያነሳሃው ያለው ጥያቄ ይህ ነው ...

ለምንድን ነው ያቢይ መንግስት በስልጣን ላይ ያለውና የሚኖረው?

ባገሪቱ ውስጥ ካሉት የፖለቲካ ። ኢኮኖሚና ማህበራዊ መደቦች ውስጥ የተኞቹን ጥቅም ነው አቢይ የሚወክለውና የሚያራምደው?

እነዚህ ናቸው የአንድን መንግስትና አገዛዝ ምንነትና ጸባይ የሚነግሩን ትንተናዎች እንጂ ምድረ ደንቆሮ ባቦሰጡኝ የሚዘረጥጡት ዘለፋ አይደለም ።

አንተ የጀመርከውን የመደብ ፣ ኢኮኖሚና ሶሺያ ትንተና ቀጥልበት ።

ለምሳሌ፡
ብሄራዊ ቡርዡዋው ያቢይ መሰረት ነው ። ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ አገር በቅልና ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው ። ዛሬ ላይ 100% ያቢይ ደጋፊና ግማሹን ኮሪደር በራሳቸው ሃብት እያሰሩለት ነው።

ሌላው መርሳት የሌለብህ አዲስና በፍጥነት እያደገ ያለው የገጠር (የእርሻ) ቡርዡዋ መደብ ነው ። እርዛው እየዘመነ ሄዶ ፣ የምርትና የክብት ዋጋዎችን በከተሜው ላይ በማስወደድ እጅግ በፍጥነት እየከበረ ያለና ያቢይ 100% ደጋፊ መደብ ይህ የገጠር ከበርቴ መደብ ነው ።

ከዚያም በብዙ ሚሊዮኖች የሚቆጠረው ዝቅተኛና መካከለኝ የነጋዴ መደብ በጣም እጅግ ወሳኙ ያቢይ መሰረት ነው። አመለካከቱም እንደ ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው።

ይህ ሁሉ ብልጽግና ከሚለው ያቢይና መንግስት አይዲዮሎጂ ጋር የሚሄድ ነው ።

ሌላው ከአለም አቀፍ ካፒታል ጋር (ከግዙፍ የውጭ ኢንቬስተርስ) ጋር አብሮ እያደገ ያለ ያገር ውስት ከበርቴና ፕሮፌሽናል መደብ አለ ። ወጣትና ተራማጅ የሆነ ጎሰኛም ሆነ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ካቢይ የመደመር መንግስት ጋር የተሳሰረ መደብ አለ።

ስለዚህ እንደ ጃዋር ፣ እንዳርጋቸው ፣ ፋኖና ኦላ ፣ ለምንድን ነው ፖለቲካው መሬት መውረድ ያቃተው ፣ ለምድን ነው አንዳች ሳቢነት ያጣው ብለህ ስትጠይ መልሱን የምታገኘው በጀመርከው የመደብ ፣ የሶሾያ ኢኮኖሚና ፖለቲካ ትንተና መንገድ ስታስብ ነው ።

ስለዚህ አጀማመርህ ተመችቶኛል።

Horus
I don’t have much to add! Abiy may partly be a very misunderstood person who is a vehicle of change for that country that stayed primitive in development for long!

I wish he could be more open about what his longterm political and developmental visions are if risk free to express them to rally ethiopians and enable him to get more support from those that misunderstood him or hate him due to misunderstanding.In any case their is no practical choice atthan PP right now with regard to keeping ethiopian interests and in bringing the long coveted changes in the country!!

[eden]

I disagree Abiy has support base. Horus asked why Abiy stayed in power. He answered Abiy has various support bases. I disagree.

It’s true Abiy is still in power. The reason is not he has support. The reason is the opponents don’t trust each other. OLA FANO and TPLF don’t put their best efforts to remove Abiy because they are afraid which one of them replaces him. This is the real advantage of Abiy that keeps him in power.

This is the same reason Meles reigned for many years. His opponents never trusted one another.

[Odie]

I disagree Abiy has support base. Horus asked why Abiy stayed in power. He answered Abiy has various support bases. I disagree.

It’s true Abiy is still in power. The reason is not he has support. The reason is the opponents don’t trust each other. OLA FANO and TPLF don’t put their best efforts to remove Abiy because they are afraid which one of them replaces him. This is the real advantage of Abiy that keeps him in power.

This is the same reason Meles reigned for many years. His opponents never trusted one another.

These days you seem too vocal abiy than before What is the kebab?

I did not make up the post though. It is from search result, so you can’t say Abiy does not have support. He does quite well. He has external and internal power base and confident; don’t make a miscalculation!

[eden]

i have been vocal same as yesterday. just see my past posts. I am and was as vocal as Minister Taye Dendea

and I don’t think i said it’s your post, that doesn’t matter anyway, just the ideas in there.

[Horus]

Odie,
Abiy has stated his long term visions on many issues except on the precise structure of our political system - a point that hugely important. If you ask me honestly: does abiy give a damn about Oromo nationalism? My answer is no. Even nationalist Oromos know this fact. But Abiy is still totally dependent on the Weyane built structure that he is afraid of shaking it. He definitely knows that Killils and ethnicity are the sources of instability and chaos but he has no alternative structure - parties, armies, regions or groups to rely on for sustenance of his regime.

The test for this political vacuum is going to be the soon to be held national dialogue assembly.

If he intentionally does not reform the current ethnocratic structures, in loooong process of economic and social development, they will become obsolete. As long as he continues the current economic and cultural development disruptive creativity, he will do well.

His singular problem is getting the trust of Amaras and Tigrays who are used to ruling and being in power and now find themselves on the receiving end.

eden
I can't follow your logic. If the opposition is unable to gather enough social and political forces in the society who oppose Abiy and Support you that means his politics are more superior than your. That means he stronger than you. You are weak relative to him that is why you can't remove him. Period. Don't logic around a circle by repeating the same.

[Dama]

Odie wrote

no practical choice atthan PP right now

Lazy.
Create the choice or be part of the struggle to create a better choice.

[DefendTheTruth]

I disagree Abiy has support base. Horus asked why Abiy stayed in power. He answered Abiy has various support bases. I disagree.

It’s true Abiy is still in power. The reason is not he has support. The reason is the opponents don’t trust each other. OLA FANO and TPLF don’t put their best efforts to remove Abiy because they are afraid which one of them replaces him. This is the real advantage of Abiy that keeps him in power.

This is the same reason Meles reigned for many years. His opponents never trusted one another.

I try my best to avoid repeating myself, endlessly!
But to just give it a last try, if you think those entities you mentioned could be competitors to Abiy Ahmed, then could you also enlighten us what they have to offer that Abiy doesn't have?

Simply because they can tout their guns?

If you have other reason(s) please enumerate them here, else you are simply li*cking your wounds, after Ethiopia defeated her enemies by going out in droves and voted!

[Odie]

i have been vocal same as yesterday. just see my past posts. I am and was as vocal as Minister Taye Dendea

and I don’t think i said it’s your post, that doesn’t matter anyway, just the ideas in there.

ኤዱ ሽንኮሪና
You made me smile a bit with your Taye the honest man quip
There is so much loss of progress and backwardness in the north I even started admiring Abiy and PP like a man that lives with his ugly wife and falls in love with her because of time

The north fa@rts the same f@rt for one century from isayas to Debre-ጬሎ to Amhara bismarck መኮሮኒ አፍንጫ zemene kassie.

They are either communists, imbecile ethnic backwards or feudal backwards. To me it seems the mother Ethiopia car is moving from the center and south but ተቸክሏል from the north.

Good luck to the ፅምዶ to our northern kins if that works for them

[Abere]

Lucifer tribe, delusional Pente-Qoster cult, fraudster Qocho-mouth Wuragay tribe supports the archdevil Gala Abiy Ahmed.

[Odie]

Lucifer tribe, delusional Pente-Qoster cult, fraudster Qocho-mouth Wuragay tribe supports the archdevil Gala Abiy Ahmed.

ጣጤ ዘ-ጤባ ስካራም!
ቅቆም ቀር
እንዴት ነው አንድ መለኪያ አልቀምቀምክም? You sound like a train wreck

[ethiopianunity]

ኦዴ፣
ግሩም አቅጣጫ ነው የጀመርከው።

በኢትዮጵያ ሶሺያልና የፖለቲካ ሳይንስ የለም ፣ ስለሆነም ትክክለኛ የሶሺያልና ፖለቲካ ትንተና የለም ። ያለው ድንቁርናና ቁጣ ፣ ጥላቻ ብቻ ነው ።

እያነሳሃው ያለው ጥያቄ ይህ ነው ...

ለምንድን ነው ያቢይ መንግስት በስልጣን ላይ ያለውና የሚኖረው?

ባገሪቱ ውስጥ ካሉት የፖለቲካ ። ኢኮኖሚና ማህበራዊ መደቦች ውስጥ የተኞቹን ጥቅም ነው አቢይ የሚወክለውና የሚያራምደው?

እነዚህ ናቸው የአንድን መንግስትና አገዛዝ ምንነትና ጸባይ የሚነግሩን ትንተናዎች እንጂ ምድረ ደንቆሮ ባቦሰጡኝ የሚዘረጥጡት ዘለፋ አይደለም ።

አንተ የጀመርከውን የመደብ ፣ ኢኮኖሚና ሶሺያ ትንተና ቀጥልበት ።

ለምሳሌ፡
ብሄራዊ ቡርዡዋው ያቢይ መሰረት ነው ። ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ አገር በቅልና ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው ። ዛሬ ላይ 100% ያቢይ ደጋፊና ግማሹን ኮሪደር በራሳቸው ሃብት እያሰሩለት ነው።

ሌላው መርሳት የሌለብህ አዲስና በፍጥነት እያደገ ያለው የገጠር (የእርሻ) ቡርዡዋ መደብ ነው ። እርዛው እየዘመነ ሄዶ ፣ የምርትና የክብት ዋጋዎችን በከተሜው ላይ በማስወደድ እጅግ በፍጥነት እየከበረ ያለና ያቢይ 100% ደጋፊ መደብ ይህ የገጠር ከበርቴ መደብ ነው ።

ከዚያም በብዙ ሚሊዮኖች የሚቆጠረው ዝቅተኛና መካከለኝ የነጋዴ መደብ በጣም እጅግ ወሳኙ ያቢይ መሰረት ነው። አመለካከቱም እንደ ብሄራዊ ከበርቴ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ነው።

ይህ ሁሉ ብልጽግና ከሚለው ያቢይና መንግስት አይዲዮሎጂ ጋር የሚሄድ ነው ።

ሌላው ከአለም አቀፍ ካፒታል ጋር (ከግዙፍ የውጭ ኢንቬስተርስ) ጋር አብሮ እያደገ ያለ ያገር ውስት ከበርቴና ፕሮፌሽናል መደብ አለ ። ወጣትና ተራማጅ የሆነ ጎሰኛም ሆነ ኢትዮጵያኒስት ካቢይ የመደመር መንግስት ጋር የተሳሰረ መደብ አለ።

ስለዚህ እንደ ጃዋር ፣ እንዳርጋቸው ፣ ፋኖና ኦላ ፣ ለምንድን ነው ፖለቲካው መሬት መውረድ ያቃተው ፣ ለምድን ነው አንዳች ሳቢነት ያጣው ብለህ ስትጠይ መልሱን የምታገኘው በጀመርከው የመደብ ፣ የሶሾያ ኢኮኖሚና ፖለቲካ ትንተና መንገድ ስታስብ ነው ።

ስለዚህ አጀማመርህ ተመችቶኛል።

The deceivers when l remember l was in Ethiopia, l would ask average , ok, there used to be Ogesha local healers, where are they? Or there used to be small businesses selling Tella, Areque, Tej where are they? The average joe would either tell me,,yes we have them and they are surviving and making money. I would tour around the used to be defers, l don’t see any of them! That means Weyane destroyed these businesses fear that the populations through these businesses will collaborate against them and over throw them! Horus is this typical average joe, who like to see shiny buildings to feel like he is Westernized but does not care about the average citizens. Like Tolf times, the individuals who collaborate with pp who have become fat cats, are just those like those supporters of Weyane, today it is the same bourgeoisie, Keberte, they built with him and his Eprp, Olf, Shabia, Tplf organized to overthrow cohesive Ethiopian society since the overthrow of H Selassie happened. What happened during Tplf? What happened now under pp? The same Keberte, the same bourgeoise they accused of H Selassie government , the difference of Tplf and Eprdf#2 aka pp is it is worse than ever been! It is all about wealth accumulation under the few clicks under Tplf and pp than under H Selassie! Under H Selassie prioritized connecting the country with the entire population! all capable naturally to work on their talents and develop the country! Those with lack of knowledge to be trained and educated as future hopes. Ethiopian Airlines was prime example. Where as Tplf focused on bleeding the country with its ethnic affiliates shunning the majority let alone advance the country. Tplf for 27 years did not build even 1 institution the country can rely and be proud of. PP being a continuation of Eprdf, relied on foreign investment to bleed the country dry with its click.