"Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 12:20
this anti- Amhara rotten old TPLF guy to reporpose your old tactics. You are now banking on your newly founded cosy relationship with TPLFites 
Mereja.Forum
"Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Page 1 of 2
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 12:28
Zemso, we knew somehow you skunnis will recycle 
this anti- Amhara rotten old TPLF guy to reporpose your old tactics. You are now banking on your newly founded cosy relationship with TPLFites
this anti- Amhara rotten old TPLF guy to reporpose your old tactics. You are now banking on your newly founded cosy relationship with TPLFites Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 12:55
Misraq, did you look at the title? May be a typo but he says the present Axumawiyans ARE not Ethiopians. Did he mean therefore they are Eritreans?
Or
He made a tense mistake whereas he was supposed to say Axumawiyans WERE not Ethiopians.
For these reasons the speaker loses intellectual integrity. Politely, I can just dismiss it by saying, "I am not sure about what he is talking about.
As a Gurage, I cannot punch hard on Eritreans because of the existing myth of relatedness
Or
He made a tense mistake whereas he was supposed to say Axumawiyans WERE not Ethiopians.
For these reasons the speaker loses intellectual integrity. Politely, I can just dismiss it by saying, "I am not sure about what he is talking about.
As a Gurage, I cannot punch hard on Eritreans because of the existing myth of relatedness
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:11
you guys are inferior subhumans when you start to narrate "we come from ጉርዓ Skunnnia lol....You need a better place to shop ancestry.
Argoba claims from Arab claiming አርብ ገባ።
The Felasha claim Israel
Qmante/Weyto claims Canaan (Israel/Palestine)
Oromo claims to come from Egypt
Tigray claims to come from Yemen
Silte claims Arab
Harari claims to come from Turkey
Skunni Eritreans claim from Italy & Arabia.
And Gurages claim to come from low IQ Eritrea?
I see inferiority trends all over
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:19
The question is why did they migrate from ጉርዓ, or is coincidence the name of the place matches the name of Gurage. If it is just a coincidence, there could be a lot similar name elsewhere around the world. That why Huresa said Gurage came from Europe ?
? Misraq wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:11
You need a better place to shop ancestry.
Argoba claims from Arab claiming አርብ ገባ።
The Felasha claim Israel
Qmante/Weyto claims Canaan (Israel/Palestine)
Oromo claims to come from Egypt
Tigray claims to come from Yemen
Silte claims Arab
Harari claims to come from Turkey
Skunni Eritreans claim from Italy & Arabia.
And Gurages claim to come from low IQ Eritrea?
I see inferiority trends all over
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:34
Qmants, I heard them say they originated from Egypt. Not verified. There existed huge migration out of Egypt when it was overrun by the Persians and Turks. The out migration lasted decades and decades as the Asian domination of Egypt increased.Misraq wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:11
You need a better place to shop ancestry.
Argoba claims from Arab claiming አርብ ገባ።
The Felasha claim Israel
Qmante/Weyto claims Canaan (Israel/Palestine)
Oromo claims to come from Egypt
Tigray claims to come from Yemen
Silte claims Arab
Harari claims to come from Turkey
Skunni Eritreans claim from Italy & Arabia.
And Gurages claim to come from low IQ Eritrea?
I see inferiority trends all over
The African population moved south to places like northern Cameron, Sudan, Chad and across the Sahel such as Mali. The Dongo tribe in Mali with the knowledge of stars say they came from Egypt.
Myth exist. They actually persist to exist. They are stubborn. They have a strong apetite to live despite the fact they cannot be proven to be right.
In the same manner as religions exist. There must be something that keeps them alive. Illiterate Sahle Sellasie, just because he had European modern weapons provided by Italy, said he was a descendant of Solomon and took after his legendary son Menelick. Such is a myth.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:40
አገው እምሶ ስሜት በጣም ተነካ:: ቻይው እውነታውን ዋጭው እየመረረሽ.. ተጋችው እያጥወለወለሽ
በደብተራ ተሰርቆ የቆየው የአክሱም ትርክት 1000% የኤርትራውያን ታሪክ ነው:: ይዋል ይደር እንጂ እውነታው ወጥቷል::
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:43
What do the Gurage people say about their origin? That is very important. For instance, leaving aside politics of today, Oromo people said they came beyond the river ( Ba'hir-Gema). Although extremist OLF deny this fact, even written documents tend to prove that story.
Was there any natural calamity, drought, locust invasion, tribal war that Gurage lost in Eritrea, etc. they flee to Shewa? If so, what tribe they encountered in their current holdings?
Was there any natural calamity, drought, locust invasion, tribal war that Gurage lost in Eritrea, etc. they flee to Shewa? If so, what tribe they encountered in their current holdings?
Dama wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:34Qmants, I heard them say they originated from Egypt. Not verified but there existed huge migration out of Egypt when it was overrun by the Persians and Turks. The out migration lasted decades znd decades as the Asian dominstion of Egypt increased.Misraq wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:11
You need a better place to shop ancestry.
Argoba claims from Arab claiming አርብ ገባ።
The Felasha claim Israel
Qmante/Weyto claims Canaan (Israel/Palestine)
Oromo claims to come from Egypt
Tigray claims to come from Yemen
Silte claims Arab
Harari claims to come from Turkey
Skunni Eritreans claim from Italy & Arabia.
And Gurages claim to come from low IQ Eritrea?
I see inferiority trends all over
lThe African population moved south to places like northern Cameron, Sudan, Chad and across the Sahel such as Mali. The Dongo tribe in Mali with the knowledge of stars say they came from Egypt.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:47
This guy k!ssed dust watching in his eyes many TPLF rats taken out. He saw the bitter end and fruits of his hateful fabrication. The God of Ethiopia slapped his face, kicked his arse, washed away his Abay Tigray dream. It was people like him for being the reason for the death of million Tigres - that slashed more than 35% of the Tigre population.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 13:52
ሰገጤው ጋላ... ሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽ! ቅማል አትሁንAbere wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:43What do the Gurage people say about their origin? That is very important. For instance, leaving aside politics of today, Oromo people said they came beyond the river ( Ba'hir-Gema). Although extremist OLF deny this fact, even written documents tend to prove that story.
Was there any natural calamity, drought, locust invasion, tribal war that Gurage lost in Eritrea, etc. they flee to Shewa? If so, what tribe they encountered in their current holdings?
Dama wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:34Qmants, I heard them say they originated from Egypt. Not verified but there existed huge migration out of Egypt when it was overrun by the Persians and Turks. The out migration lasted decades znd decades as the Asian dominstion of Egypt increased.Misraq wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 13:11
You need a better place to shop ancestry.
Argoba claims from Arab claiming አርብ ገባ።
The Felasha claim Israel
Qmante/Weyto claims Canaan (Israel/Palestine)
Oromo claims to come from Egypt
Tigray claims to come from Yemen
Silte claims Arab
Harari claims to come from Turkey
Skunni Eritreans claim from Italy & Arabia.
And Gurages claim to come from low IQ Eritrea?
I see inferiority trends all over
lThe African population moved south to places like northern Cameron, Sudan, Chad and across the Sahel such as Mali. The Dongo tribe in Mali with the knowledge of stars say they came from Egypt.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 14:30
Abere
Gurage is a very ancient group, indigenous to the land and the southwest central region. Documents left by Arab historians and Emperor Amde Sion in his war diaries prove they are indeed a very old tribe.
However, it is admissible and there are facts to prove that Gurage accepted foreigners to itself. Some may have come as traders, religious influencers both Christians and Muslims, Tigrian soldiers against the Hadya Sultanate and Gafat soldiers against Imam Ahmed the Lefty.
However, writers such as Aba Bahrey writing in the 16th said the Gurages were soldiers of King Amde Sion. This is ignorant of Amde Sion's own
writing in early 14th c. chronicling in his war diaries that he fought Gurages.
Some Gurage groups, very small.minority, say many places as their origin. No group says they came from Eritrea.
Some groups in Dobi say they were related to King Libna Dingl. Whorus from Akhenaten's Egypt was Horus, with eyes that can see 360°. Welene guy told me they came from Iraq. I think Silte say they came from Somali. Mesqan, no info.
7bet has assimilated Gafat soldiers who came to fight Imam Ahmed the Lefty because we have a region called Gafat who might have named the place of their settlement in their tribe's name. Also, 7bet has a large region called Gura, which in my language means left, a land that exists to the left of Chaha.
Gurage is a very ancient group, indigenous to the land and the southwest central region. Documents left by Arab historians and Emperor Amde Sion in his war diaries prove they are indeed a very old tribe.
However, it is admissible and there are facts to prove that Gurage accepted foreigners to itself. Some may have come as traders, religious influencers both Christians and Muslims, Tigrian soldiers against the Hadya Sultanate and Gafat soldiers against Imam Ahmed the Lefty.
However, writers such as Aba Bahrey writing in the 16th said the Gurages were soldiers of King Amde Sion. This is ignorant of Amde Sion's own
writing in early 14th c. chronicling in his war diaries that he fought Gurages.
Some Gurage groups, very small.minority, say many places as their origin. No group says they came from Eritrea.
Some groups in Dobi say they were related to King Libna Dingl. Whorus from Akhenaten's Egypt was Horus, with eyes that can see 360°. Welene guy told me they came from Iraq. I think Silte say they came from Somali. Mesqan, no info.
7bet has assimilated Gafat soldiers who came to fight Imam Ahmed the Lefty because we have a region called Gafat who might have named the place of their settlement in their tribe's name. Also, 7bet has a large region called Gura, which in my language means left, a land that exists to the left of Chaha.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 15:15
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 15:42
That is the fact. Why do Gallas and southern ppl from Cursed-Land-Ethiopia don't want to accept this fact. Axumite has never been part of Cursed-Land-Ethiopia, 80 tribes of Cursed-Land-Ethiopia all migrated from Kenya and other western African bantu tribes in Africa. . That's why Tigray Ppl R Working to free themselves and declare their independence from dead useless Cursed-Land-Ethiopia
. That's why Tigray Ppl R Working to free themselves and declare their independence from dead useless Cursed-Land-Ethiopia Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 15:51
Pseudo-scholar!Dama wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 14:30Abere
Gurage is a very ancient group, indigenous to the land and the southwest central region. Documents left by Arab historians and Emperor Amde Sion in his war diaries prove they are indeed a very old tribe.
However, it is admissible and there are facts to prove that Gurage accepted foreigners to itself. Some may have come as traders, religious influencers both Christians and Muslims, Tigrian soldiers against the Hadya Sultanate and Gafat soldiers against Imam Ahmed the Lefty.
However, writers such as Aba Bahrey writing in the 16th said the Gurages were soldiers of King Amde Sion. This is ignorant of Amde Sion's own
writing in early 14th c. chronicling in his war diaries that he fought Gurages.
Some Gurage groups, very small.minority, say many places as their origin. No group says they came from Eritrea.
Some groups in Dobi say they were related to King Libna Dingl. Whorus from Akhehaten's Egypt was Horus, with eyes that can see 360°. Welene guy told me they came from Iraq. I think Silte say they came from Somali. Mesqan, no info.
7bet has assimilated Gafat soldiers who came to fight Imam Ahmed the Lefty because we have a region called Gafat who might have named the place of their settlement in their tribe's name. Also, 7bet has a large region called Gura, which in my language means left, a land that exists to the left of Chaha.
You are writing a prose to suit your mujahidin sultanate!
There is no unifying theory but all the proposed theories have some fact.
1. In parts of 7bet there are people who still count their ancestory back to Eritrea
2. It is possible southward expedition from axum has contributed to the region
Even our ancestors mentioned they came to the land. The presence of the Fuga who are less similar to ዠራ or gurage proper may suggest the gurage infact came to the region and conquered.
3. The gurage came intermarried with the indigenous people and near by ethnics
4. Gurage may have some mixture from muslim invaders of shoa sultanate/harla etc.
5. Gurage has been part of abyssinian kingdom except in some time in history.
All these suggestions have some oral or written evidence and perhaps a combination of many of them gave rise to the Gurage people.
Since you are a bigot all the venom you spew should not be taken seriously and infact you should called out for the hate you spread like Horus as that put innocent people life at risk.
I happen to have a family who married into Amhara, Oromo, mixed ethnic and even an eritrean. That is how Ethiopians are intertwined. People like u and horus needed to have no place in the society since you are such bigots.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 15:56
Abere,
Oromo's claim of Egyptian Origin is stealing greatness for psycholoigcal reason of grandeur, has no foundation to stand on. Their language did not exist back then. In historical terms, it's a new branch of the Cushitic languages.
The oldest of the Cushitic languages are those of the Belemys or now called the Bejas and Afars. Especially the Bejas residing on a vast territory in the northwest of Egypt as far north Sinai and running along the Red Sea to Suakin now called Port Sudan, continuong to Massawa going to interior of Sudan thru Kestela to Gedaref can rightfully claim to be former citizens of the Great Pharaonic Egypt. Their bravery in battles can be a remnant of their Egyptian warrior culture.
Oromo's claim of Egyptian Origin is stealing greatness for psycholoigcal reason of grandeur, has no foundation to stand on. Their language did not exist back then. In historical terms, it's a new branch of the Cushitic languages.
The oldest of the Cushitic languages are those of the Belemys or now called the Bejas and Afars. Especially the Bejas residing on a vast territory in the northwest of Egypt as far north Sinai and running along the Red Sea to Suakin now called Port Sudan, continuong to Massawa going to interior of Sudan thru Kestela to Gedaref can rightfully claim to be former citizens of the Great Pharaonic Egypt. Their bravery in battles can be a remnant of their Egyptian warrior culture.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 15:59
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 16:13
The problem with history is it can be interpreted to suit a political narrative. It may be written to suit the powerful on the throne.
It hurts when it is used to try to dismantle the fabrics of a society by a degenerate group. The good thing is, no body buys everything told as history or a story!
Axumites were not Ethiopians is an absolute idiot reductionism of known and written even documented facts for which a lot of artifacts exist. An uneducated or unprepared person may fall victim to such fabrications but not only Ethiopians, owners of the history, expats attest to the fact Ethiopians own axumite history/civilization!
It hurts when it is used to try to dismantle the fabrics of a society by a degenerate group. The good thing is, no body buys everything told as history or a story!
Axumites were not Ethiopians is an absolute idiot reductionism of known and written even documented facts for which a lot of artifacts exist. An uneducated or unprepared person may fall victim to such fabrications but not only Ethiopians, owners of the history, expats attest to the fact Ethiopians own axumite history/civilization!
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 16:17
Merowe was the capital of the Kingdom of Nubia whose king's name was King Kush. Nubia, Ezana knew it as Noba, and Eastern Roman Empire at Constantinople called it Ethiopia was a land of gold, plenty of it, in fact inexhaustible amount, which the Egyptians mined but never depleted it.
Constantinople wanted to exploit it. Sent expeditions thru the Nile but the warrior king, King Kush repelled them each and everytime. Constinople could not replenish supplies and new fighters due to distance and the long terrain of the Nile with its tortuous cataracts.
So they first converted Ezana to Christianity. Extricated Axum from Sabaen colonization. Present Yemen and Oman, and part of Saudi Arabia. Armed him and told him to go and crush King Kush and free Nubia for their exploitation of the Nubian gold. He did exactly that, with around 40, 000 POW, whom he settled in the most western periphery of Axum, the now Begamidr or Bejamidr, spelled both ways.
Constantinople wanted to exploit it. Sent expeditions thru the Nile but the warrior king, King Kush repelled them each and everytime. Constinople could not replenish supplies and new fighters due to distance and the long terrain of the Nile with its tortuous cataracts.
So they first converted Ezana to Christianity. Extricated Axum from Sabaen colonization. Present Yemen and Oman, and part of Saudi Arabia. Armed him and told him to go and crush King Kush and free Nubia for their exploitation of the Nubian gold. He did exactly that, with around 40, 000 POW, whom he settled in the most western periphery of Axum, the now Begamidr or Bejamidr, spelled both ways.
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 16:19
When the promised future of Hong Kong and Singapore didn't work, you folks abandoned the future and present and went to the past glory of Axumite kingdom?
Eritrea never had monarchs, royal families, dynasties, written languages, palaces, chronicles....etc. So.what made you say that you are heirs to Axum, skunni boy? Geographic proximity?
Re: "Axumawyan are not Ethiopians!" Tigrayan elder
Posted: 16 Dec 2025, 16:39
FYI
King Kush was a Nubian, a Nioltic tribe. He was not from the Beja tribe but had Bejas in his kingdom of Nubia.
King Kush was a Nubian, a Nioltic tribe. He was not from the Beja tribe but had Bejas in his kingdom of Nubia.