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THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 08 Dec 2025, 20:56
by Zmeselo

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 08 Dec 2025, 21:22
by Zack
Russia will never prevail over the Ukrain , Russia is the one and only agressor in here , Russians and putin thought that ukraine will not fight back and that they will take over kiev with in 3 weeks, well it didnt happen

Dr Zackovich

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 08 Dec 2025, 22:06
by Zmeselo
Well, time will tell!

I guess you know better than those in the pentagon.

Zack wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 21:22
Russia will never prevail over the Ukrain , Russia is the one and only agressor in here , Russians and putin thought that ukraine will not fight back and that they will take over kiev with in 3 weeks, well it didnt happen

Dr Zackovich

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 09 Dec 2025, 01:00
by Right
Russia will never prevail over the Ukrain , Russia is the one and only agressor in here , Russians and putin thought that ukraine will not fight back and that they will take over kiev with in 3 weeks, well it didnt happen
Russia nailed it. And Washington put a stamp on it. The rest is denial of a reality.
The people of Eastern Ukraine are Russians, they have been and will always be. If Napoleon & Hitler with all might can’t change it when Russia didn’t have a dirty bomb, then Macron will not be able to do it with a Russia with a dirty bomb.
Odessa is crying for Russia and it will soon join its fatherland.

Bottom line, the US has accepted defeat. There is nothing little Eritrea who has been courting Putin and rejected can do about it.

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 09 Dec 2025, 10:49
by ethiopianunity
It is amazing how these journalists jump to conclusion "demise of American empire" bla bla. America under Trump know what they are doing. If it was Biden era, the US itself would have completely occupy Ukraine and Russia will not do anything about it. But Trump is allied with Putin. US and Russia will trade economically this is what is happening. As for Ukraine, it wil break in pieces with Russia, Poland, anyone its next neighbors scrambling for Ukraine . This could happen. This is why Trumps opposers in US hate him. But Trump is seeing opportunity to be friendly to the new global order. Russia due to its Christian faith will not seek to be empire in the world but there is tendency for Chinese to replace to be empire in the world due to its rapid growth and might. It is possible Trump is luring Russia away from China and after targeting China , could turn to Russia but who knows?

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 09 Dec 2025, 11:37
by Zmeselo
All empires fall, sooner or later.
ethiopianunity wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 10:49
It is amazing how these journalists jump to conclusion "demise of American empire" bla bla. America under Trump know what they are doing. If it was Biden era, the US itself would have completely occupy Ukraine and Russia will not do anything about it. But Trump is allied with Putin. US and Russia will trade economically this is what is happening. As for Ukraine, it wil break in pieces with Russia, Poland, anyone its next neighbors scrambling for Ukraine . This could happen. This is why Trumps opposers in US hate him. But Trump is seeing opportunity to be friendly to the new global order. Russia due to its Christian faith will not seek to be empire in the world but there is tendency for Chinese to replace to be empire in the world due to its rapid growth and might. It is possible Trump is luring Russia away from China and after targeting China , could turn to Russia but who knows?

Re: THE ODESA BREAKDOWN Ukraine’s Collapse and Washington's Fading Power | Yanis Varoufakis

Posted: 09 Dec 2025, 12:05
by Right
[media] Ukraine, it wil break in pieces with Russia, Poland[/media]

That is exactly what is going to happen. Know the history and you will know who belongs to who.

Ukraine was patched up together in collaboration between many powers.

Romania, Hungary, Poland and Russia has a solid legitimate claim to their land in Ukraine. The Hungarians in Ukraine are still maintaining their language and culture. The same with Poland. The part Russia is occupying now are Russians and populated by Russian speakers. Russia has no interest in Western Ukraine.

Odessa is founded and administered by Russians for centuries. The population in large is Russian speaking.

Ukraine acted stupid and is now paying the price. When you allow yourself to be used by others against your larger neighbour, soon or later it will backfire. From all the countries, Ukraine is putting on the two vindictive expired powers: Britain and France.

All Russia asked of Ukraine was to be neutral and not join NATO. Which should have been a wise thing to do.

Trust me, Ukraine will hang Zelensky and his Mafia team.