Low pass rate of students is not necessarily a deliberate government policy to deny students access to university/ tertiary education.
In fact,the country needs to focus on providing quality vocational/technical/health training colleges to produce skilled work force than pure academic learning at universities with limited or no on the job experiences.
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You are wrong!Tiago wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:35Low pass rate of students is not necessarily a deliberate government policy to deny students access to university/ tertiary education.
In fact,the country needs to focus on providing quality vocational/technical/health training colleges to produce skilled work force than pure academic learning at universities with limited or no on the job experiences.
The dichotomous pass fail categorization of students is absolutely wrong at high school level. The percentage of pass rate shows a filter out of gifted students/hard workers/the previleged to fill in the limited capacity of available universities or colleges. There are potentially average students filtered out to flunk or go to inferior private colleges which the government said are substandard.
In developed countries high school graduation does not classify students failed or passed for college. Untill grade 12 you accumulate school performance points and finally you take standard exams based on the results of which you apply the college of your choice from ivy league to community college. This report of fail or pass percent is stupid and abusive. Also we don’t have the details of that 8% statistics. How many from each ethnic or region, city rural divide and private public has to be looked at. Also in the ethnically motivated political and education system we have no idea what mess is going on. One time we heard regions were stealing exam to increase the pass rate. Don’t be mislead!
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Re: Quality over quantity
You are wrong!
The dichotomous pass fail categorization of students is absolutely wrong at high school level. The percentage of pass rate shows a filter out of gifted students/hard workers/the previleged to fill in the limited capacity of available universities or colleges. There are potentially average students filtered out to flunk or go to inferior private colleges which the government said are substandard.
In developed countries high school graduation does not classify students failed or passed for college. Untill grade 12 you accumulate school performance points and finally you take standard exams based on the results of which you apply the college of your choice from ivy league to community college. This report of fail or pass percent is stupid and abusive. Also we don’t have the details of that 8% statistics. How many from each ethnic or region, city rural divide and private public has to be looked at. Also in the ethnically motivated political and education system we have no idea what mess is going on. One time we heard regions were stealing exam to increase the pass rate. Don’t be mislead!
and where is/ are the evidences?
In developed countries high school graduation does not classify students failed or passed for college
not in all developed countries.
in the UK they have ordinary and advanced level tests to progress to ivy universities.there is pass fail and option to repeat.
most students are also given options to do vocational studies with equivalent degree status.
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The #1 subject most students failed outside of Amara was Amharic. Amharic is given power to determine the future of an Ethiopian youth.
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I just gave you an example. Fail pass is a torture. In 21 first century there is nothing called failed and pass. People's intelligence is a spectrum. Some are good in one thing the others are good in theory or something. Pass fail is a stigma. When I was in college, we joined 120, the dismissed 60 because they failed, according to them. But those so called failed just went scholarship or other colleges and became as successful. Ideally when you complete high school, you take a test, you get a grade then based on the grade a student goes to what is fit for that grade. The government even should not be the one giving the tests. The tests should be standardized given by a designated agency or private company. The politically motivated government should get the hell out of grading and go for policy making leaving the grading and the exam for agencies. The governments job should be working on system and education improvement. We know these days graduated cannot even write in English and we know politicians struggle to talk English an international communication media. Okay, someone may say, you can speak with your own language. Well good politicians can do that but still if they speak another language, they can make better connection. Ethiopia can no more hire even all physicians. The education system has to be tunned with the assumption graduates can thrive wherever they go. There is no critical or innovative thinking component in the Ethiopian education system, not even in master's or even in PhD level. There is no space for debates in high school or elementary which used to be there during the Kings era, I guess. The Ethiopian education system in the king era was almost close to British system for anyone who saw the books and exams of that time. Even colleges were tuned to highest standard, and graduates could outperform in many subjects outside the country. The education system started to weaken during Derg era then became politicized and became corrupted during TPLF and remains so now because the system has not changed by any standard. You are looking at superficial things like percents. That is for the birds. There are a lot of variables that need to be looked at the education system in terms of quality. How many of the schools have properly trained teachers? In many places the teachers are assigned by ethnic alignment. If there are teachers trained in ethnic quota not by competence are assigned to one ethnic region, that region will never pass a single student in decades. I know a particular scenario. I am not going to dive in that. How many schools have media for teaching, simple technologies for science class? What are the contents of the teaching materials? how are they prepared to make students grasp concepts easily? the list goes on and on. I wish instead of copying the multibillion-dollar corridor they copied a better education system from somewhere, adapted it to the country need and implemented. Please don't justify the unjustifiable and if you belong to Huresa move aside. What they are doing is just painting dirt on the wall. The first thing they killed is the people's unity and the country as a nation and divided the country into fragments. The education system has to be fragmented and distorted as well. Nobody expects something of national identity. Unless the policy and the political system changes in the sequentially dictator run country, not much will change. When the system changes another dictator comes and just starts from square number one and wants his way or the highway.
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Meet in the following video the automatic Injera making machine that was invented by the Department of Mechanical Engineering of Addis Ababa University.Odie wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 13:17I just gave you an example. Fail pass is a torture. In 21 first century there is nothing called failed and pass. People's intelligence is a spectrum. Some are good in one thing the others are good in theory or something. Pass fail is a stigma. When I was in college, we joined 120, the dismissed 60 because they failed, according to them. But those so called failed just went scholarship or other colleges and became as successful. Ideally when you complete high school, you take a test, you get a grade then based on the grade a student goes to what is fit for that grade. The government even should not be the one giving the tests. The tests should be standardized given by a designated agency or private company. The politically motivated government should get the hell out of grading and go for policy making leaving the grading and the exam for agencies. The governments job should be working on system and education improvement. We know these days graduated cannot even write in English and we know politicians struggle to talk English an international communication media. Okay, someone may say, you can speak with your own language. Well good politicians can do that but still if they speak another language, they can make better connection. Ethiopia can no more hire even all physicians. The education system has to be tunned with the assumption graduates can thrive wherever they go. There is no critical or innovative thinking component in the Ethiopian education system, not even in master's or even in PhD level. There is no space for debates in high school or elementary which used to be there during the Kings era, I guess. The Ethiopian education system in the king era was almost close to British system for anyone who saw the books and exams of that time. Even colleges were tuned to highest standard, and graduates could outperform in many subjects outside the country. The education system started to weaken during Derg era then became politicized and became corrupted during TPLF and remains so now because the system has not changed by any standard. You are looking at superficial things like percents. That is for the birds. There are a lot of variables that need to be looked at the education system in terms of quality. How many of the schools have properly trained teachers? In many places the teachers are assigned by ethnic alignment. If there are teachers trained in ethnic quota not by competence are assigned to one ethnic region, that region will never pass a single student in decades. I know a particular scenario. I am not going to dive in that. How many schools have media for teaching, simple technologies for science class? What are the contents of the teaching materials? how are they prepared to make students grasp concepts easily? the list goes on and on. I wish instead of copying the multibillion-dollar corridor they copied a better education system from somewhere, adapted it to the country need and implemented. Please don't justify the unjustifiable and if you belong to Huresa move aside. What they are doing is just painting dirt on the wall. The first thing they killed is the people's unity and the country as a nation and divided the country into fragments. The education system has to be fragmented and distorted as well. Nobody expects something of national identity. Unless the policy and the political system changes in the sequentially dictator run country, not much will change. When the system changes another dictator comes and just starts from square number one and wants his way or the highway.
Never mind. Addis Ababa University is yet to make a major invention or major scientific breakthrough for the nation.