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"ደጊም 360 ዲግሪ ኣይንኽበብን!" "We are NOT encircled 360 degrees anymore!" Dr Debretsion Gebremichael - Chairman of TPLF

Post by sarcasm » 08 Aug 2025, 14:19

"ደጊም 360 ዲግሪ ኣይንኽበብን!" "We are NOT encircled 360 degrees anymore!" Dr Debretsion Gebremichael - Chairman of TPLF


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Post by eden » 08 Aug 2025, 19:16

‘We are NOT’ or ‘ We shall NOT’
?
I think the later

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Post by Affable » 08 Aug 2025, 19:23

Eden, I got the translation for you. TPLF and EPLF are dancing to the same music. I don’t think that is a good strategy. In fact, it hints desperation.

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Post by sarcasm » 08 Aug 2025, 19:26

eden wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 19:16
‘We are NOT’ or ‘ We shall NOT’
?
I think the later
You're probably right. I translated it as " we will not" on the original draft then changed it because the Tigrina expression is about now and the future.

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Post by sarcasm » 08 Aug 2025, 19:40

Affable wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 19:23
TPLF and EPLF are dancing to the same music. I don’t think that is a good strategy.
Hi Sam,

You reminded me of FP earlier post :lol:

ከብልፄ መግለጫ መካከል
"ለመ*ገዳ*ደል የሚፈላለጉ ሀይሎች አንድ መሆን" ... ይላል ... አስቡት ለምን እርስ በራሳችሁ አት*ገዳደ*ሉም ... ለምን አንድ ትሆናላችሁ እኮ ነው የሚለው ..

ብልፄ አረ*መኔ መሆኗን ከዚህ በላይ የሚገልፅ ቃላት የለም። በአለም ታሪክ ለመ*ገዳ*ደል የሚፈልጉ ሀይሎች አንድ መሆን በስጋትነት የገለፀ የሀገር መሪ ፓርቲ የለም። ኖሮም አያውቅም። ለወደፊቱም አይኖርም።

ብልፄ ግን አንድነታችሁ ያስፈራኛል። አለመ*ገዳደ*ላችሁ ያሰጋኛል። ህብረታችሁ ስልጣኔን ያሳጣኛል ብላ መግለጫ አውጥታለች። ይህ ብዙ መልእክት አለው።
የብልፄ የመጨረሻ ካርድ ህዝብ ለህዝብ ማጋ*ጨት ፣ ቅራኔ መቆስቆስ ፣ ሰሞኑን እየተደረገ እንዳለው የድንበር የወሰን ግጭቶችን መፍጠር ሲሆን ... በዚህ አስታካ አንድነትን በመሸርሸር ስልጣኗን ማፅናት ነው።

በዚህ ሰአት ሁሉም ሰው ትኩረቱን አድርጎ መታገል ያለበት ብልፄን ብቻ ነው። ለኢትዮጵያ ታሪካዊ ጠላት እንደ ብልፄ የላትም። ከግብፅ የከፋ ጠላት እንደ ብልፄ የለም። ከጣሊያን ወረራ በላይ የብልፄ መንገድ ሀገራችንን ዋጋ ያስከፍላል።

ሁሉም በተጠንቀቅ ብልፄ ላይ ብቻ ትኩረት ያድርግ !!

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Post by eden » 08 Aug 2025, 19:59

sarcasm wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 19:40

ከብልፄ መግለጫ መካከል: "ለመ*ገዳ*ደል የሚፈላለጉ ሀይሎች አንድ መሆን" ..
This sounds like it is drafted by Getachew Reda. Reminds me of his TPLF days when he screamed ኦህዴድና ብአዴን are እሳትና ጭድ so we are guaranteed to rule. We now know this was big mistake.

PP is repeating the same mistake by saying TDF and FANO will remain እሳትና ጭድ.

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Post by Abere » 08 Aug 2025, 20:19

First of all, these three evils only cause the dust - they will never fight to the demise of each other. They have a shared goal and vision, they all are anti-Ethiopia and are separatist. They do not have antagonistic contradiction. The existence of one is the necessity for the other to exsit. If there were no OLF, there would never be Shabia in Asmara nor Woyane in Tigray for the past 27 years, even for keeping few of them after 3 rounds of defeat of TPLF. If a Shabia sees Dawud Ibssa, he/she sees Abiy Ahmed. They are created by Arabs and the West - these toys operate and commandeered by Arabs and the West. If they malfunctioned and out of service, it is a good thing for Ethiopia.

But I am surprised to see many Shabia trolls fainting and OLF trolls like corridor DDT making false alarm. Retard Debretsion is another curse on Tigres - he who scared of COVID-19 killed 1 million Tigre youth.


Final note, Amhara has to be wise. Amhara is the target in the end.

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Post by sarcasm » 08 Aug 2025, 20:20

Affable wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 19:23
TPLF and EPLF are dancing to the same music
Could the song be this one?


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Post by Affable » 08 Aug 2025, 21:26

Eden, no, no ብልፄ ጥሩ ብሎአል። አንቺ ምን ነካሽ ሸኔ እና ፋኖ ግንባር ፈጥረው ብልፄን ሲዋጉ ማሰብሽ ቅዠት አይመስልሽም። ሁለቱ ከብልፄ በላይ ለ ኢትዪጺያ አንድ መሆን ያስባሉ እንዳትይኝ።
በመጀመሪያ ይህ ትብብር የምትይው የሶሻል ሚዲያ ቅዠት ነው። ተይ የሸኔ ፣ ሀወአት እና ፋኖን መተባበር ፋኖ እወክለዋለሁ የሚለው አንድ ወጥ የፓለቲካ ቁመና ያለው አማራ የለም።



ፋኖና ሸኔ የመንደር ጉልበተኛ ሆነው እንወክላለን የሚሉትን ህዝብ እያንገላቱ የሚኖሩ ተራ ሽፍታዎች እንደሚሆኑ በርግጠኝነት መተንበይ ይቻላል።
የጠላቴ ጠላት ወዳጄ ነው የደንቆሮ መፈክር ነው, Eden. The other day ልደቱ ከአቢይ የበለጠ ይቀርበኛል ብሎአል Ayatollah.
ይህን አስቢ ለሰከንድ — እንደምትመኝው አቢይ ከነቤተሰቡ ወደ ዱባይ ኮበለለ እንበል። የ ብልፅግና ፓርቲ no more። Immediately,
የሸኔ ፣ የፋኖ እና የአጎቶችሽ የ “ ትብብር ”ግዜ አከተመ።
The infighting is on : Is ሸኔ coming to the Oromos’land called Finfine or to the Fano’s Addis Abeba.
እኔ ሰላም ሰባኪ ነኝ አሁን። ሰው ከማስጨረስ በቀር ምንም አትፈይዱም ባይ ነኝ።
የለም እንታገላለን ካሉ ደሞ — ብዙ ግዜ የሚኖራቸው አይመስለኝም — መዋሸት ያቁሙ። ፋኖም በጎራው ሸኔም በመንደሩ ህወአትም ከቀየው ብልፅግናን እናስወግዳለን ብለው የየግላቸውን ትግል ያርጉ። ቢያንስ የ ኢትዪጺያ ህዝብ credit ይሰጣቸዋል honest ስለመሆናቸው። ምንም የሚጋሩት ፓሊሲ ሆነ ፓለቲካ እንደሌላቸው በማመናቸው።

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Post by Naga Tuma » 09 Aug 2025, 04:19

Abere wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 20:19
First of all, these three evils only cause the dust - they will never fight to the demise of each other. They have a shared goal and vision, they all are anti-Ethiopia and are separatist. They do not have antagonistic contradiction. The existence of one is the necessity for the other to exsit. If there were no OLF, there would never be Shabia in Asmara nor Woyane in Tigray for the past 27 years, even for keeping few of them after 3 rounds of defeat of TPLF. If a Shabia sees Dawud Ibssa, he/she sees Abiy Ahmed. They are created by Arabs and the West - these toys operate and commandeered by Arabs and the West. If they malfunctioned and out of service, it is a good thing for Ethiopia.

But I am surprised to see many Shabia trolls fainting and OLF trolls like corridor DDT making false alarm. Retard Debretsion is another curse on Tigres - he who scared of COVID-19 killed 1 million Tigre youth.


Final note, Amhara has to be wise. Amhara is the target in the end.
Abere:

I am sure that you have a political conviction. My guess is that your consistent political conviction over the years has been the unity of Ethiopia.

In my view, with this conviction, walking as a victim is taking steps toward dismay.

Reading from a distance, those who wished to see the country destabilized in the name of independence from it have been on the defensive since the decision of 2003 and the elections of 2005.

This means that those with a conviction for the unity of Ethiopia have had the opportunity to present a national vision for the better and politically be on the offensive.

A national vision demands understanding the convictions of others in the nation and presenting a viable solution for the convictions of all and submit to the verdict of democracy.

If I correctly understand your comments above, your political conviction has devolved to a sectarian level for a path to an assured dismay given Ethiopia’s age old history.

Professor Mesfin Woldemariam wasn’t a fool. A traditional saying that I once heard from a Tigrigna speaking elderly man sums it up: ከትግሬ ያልተወለደ አማራ አማራ ኣይዴለም።

በዚህ ግዜ ብሔራዊ ፓርቲን ለመመስረት እና ሃገርን ወደፊት ለማራመድ ምቹ ኣልሆነም ወይ ብዬ ሳስብ ይህን ጽሑፍህን ኣነበብኩኝ።

የደቡብ ፋኖዎች ሲባል ምናልባትም ብሔራዊ ለሆነ ፋና ፓርቲ መመስራት ያደርስ ይሆን ብዬ ኣስቤ ነበር። ከሰሜን እስከ ደቡብ፣ ከምዕራብ እስከ ምስራቅ ባለታሪኮቹ ፋኖዎች ኣንድ ብሔራዊ ፓርቲን መስርተዉ ሃገርን ወደፊት ለመግፋት የራሳቸዉን ኣስተዋጽኦ ማድረግ ኣይችሉም?

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Post by Abere » 09 Aug 2025, 14:16

Naga Tuma,

___It is my firm conviction the unity of a sovereign Ethiopia is the only ideal solution - anything short of that is a waste of generational lives and resources. The problem Ethiopia faced since the last decades appears complex often due to the false alarm buzzer pushed by OLF, TPLF and Woyane; yet, the honest solution is very straight forward. The three black death carrier rats are the ones that put the country into hell pit. One must be either intentionally deceiving others or naive to imagine having a peaceful dialogue with OLF or Woyane or EPLF/Shabia would be possible. I do not see away out peacefully with OLF-PP - by design ethno-fascist/apartheid are not created for facilitating a level field. The country yet to has to see a level field where the OLF/TPLF ethnic apartheid system demised to the ground.

___ Fano, as far as I believe, is historically a broad Ethiopian resistance movement that stood against the conquest of foreign enemy - when the country was without government. Likewise, now, practically Ethiopia is without government. People in Amhara region took matters into their own hands ;and others are starting to do the same. Why Fano resistance started early in Amhara? It is obvious. OLF and TPLF labeled Amhara as the enemy of all. This is implied in their illegal so called constitution. And in fact, empathically, TPLF in its manifesto declared Amhara as the enemy of "Tigres".

Thus, the TPLF/OLF game set is a deceit.


Naga Tuma wrote:
09 Aug 2025, 04:19
Abere:

I am sure that you have a political conviction. My guess is that your consistent political conviction over the years has been the unity of Ethiopia.

In my view, with this conviction, walking as a victim is taking steps toward dismay.

Reading from a distance, those who wished to see the country destabilized in the name of independence from it have been on the defensive since the decision of 2003 and the elections of 2005.

This means that those with a conviction for the unity of Ethiopia have had the opportunity to present a national vision for the better and politically be on the offensive.

A national vision demands understanding the convictions of others in the nation and presenting a viable solution for the convictions of all and submit to the verdict of democracy.

If I correctly understand your comments above, your political conviction has devolved to a sectarian level for a path to an assured dismay given Ethiopia’s age old history.

Professor Mesfin Woldemariam wasn’t a fool. A traditional saying that I once heard from a Tigrigna speaking elderly man sums it up: ከትግሬ ያልተወለደ አማራ አማራ ኣይዴለም።

በዚህ ግዜ ብሔራዊ ፓርቲን ለመመስረት እና ሃገርን ወደፊት ለማራመድ ምቹ ኣልሆነም ወይ ብዬ ሳስብ ይህን ጽሑፍህን ኣነበብኩኝ።

የደቡብ ፋኖዎች ሲባል ምናልባትም ብሔራዊ ለሆነ ፋና ፓርቲ መመስራት ያደርስ ይሆን ብዬ ኣስቤ ነበር። ከሰሜን እስከ ደቡብ፣ ከምዕራብ እስከ ምስራቅ ባለታሪኮቹ ፋኖዎች ኣንድ ብሔራዊ ፓርቲን መስርተዉ ሃገርን ወደፊት ለመግፋት የራሳቸዉን ኣስተዋጽኦ ማድረግ ኣይችሉም?

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Re: "ደጊም 360 ዲግሪ ኣይንኽበብን!" "We are NOT encircled 360 degrees anymore!" Dr Debretsion Gebremichael - Chairman of TPLF

Post by Naga Tuma » 09 Aug 2025, 14:55

Abere:

You are not alone in saying the unity of Ethiopia as a sovereign and independent African country is better for all Ethiopians.

You are not alone in saying the current federalism needs to be revised in order to make it work better for all. I called the current one Meles Zenawi’s orphan more than ten years ago.

Just yesterday, I suggested if a national party can be formed by the Ethiopian Fanos from north to south and east to west and present a more viable alternative for the nation. So, I am in agreement with you that it is historically a de facto broad Ethiopian party.

So, instead of blaming your own country’s folks who happen to have their own political convictions that have tangible constituencies, why not focus on charting a better alternative that would work for all at the national level?

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