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[Horus]

[Misraq]

a reversal of fortune for them came around the early 19th century, and the Seden Sodo began enlisting the aid of neighboring Oromo tribes of Jile, Becho, Gimbitchu, and Liben. With their new allies, they became more successful in infiltrating most of the Kistane mainland, with the exception of Wogeram.[10]

“The Galla first broke into Aymallal territory through Ambare Wargo in Nuranna. Then other Aymallal areas, like Gayat, Gareno, Endabuya, and Amawte, were invaded and sacked. The main Galla tribes that invaded Aymallal were the Abado and Malima from the north, both members of the Tulama branch of the Galla, the Geto, and the Dula. Amawte is said to have been invaded by the Abado, Wacho by the Geto, and Aratge by the Dula. Another, less known, tribe, the Jidda, invaded Gareno. Of these tribes, the one most feared was the Abado, with whom the Aymallal had most of their battles."[11]

The overall effect of the Oromo invasion was one of despoliation, depopulation (through either death or flight), and enslavement.The traffic of Gurage slaves substantially increased in the mid-19th century. There are still elders who have memories of grandparents or other such relatives sold into slavery by the Oromo . The invasion and despoliation caused many Kistane villagers to flee and settle in neighboring areas such as Ada, Meqi, Zway, Minjar, and Bulga, facilitating the first mass migrations of the Gurage in other parts of the country.[12] Many Gurages had desperately appealed to Negus Sahle Selassie to protect them from Oromo attacks.[13] Isenburg witnessed Gurage slaves begging at the feet of the King, attesting that when they go to Shewa they are often nearly naked as Oromos frequently ambush and rob them, and the King gifts them new clothes, knowing the raiders would fear angering the King.[14] Many Oromo also peacefully intermarried with the Kistane, with many of the latter speaking the language of the former and adopting Oromo names as well as Amharic names. An example of this was the marriage between the renowned Oromo general Ras Gobana Dacche, who led Menelik's armies in his reconquest over much of the south and western parts of Ethiopia, and his wife Askalech, a Kistane Gurage

[Misraq]

Galla enslaved kistane and Kistane pleaded for Amhara king Sahle Silassie. King Sahle Silassie then saved the coward sisssi kistane.

Amhara Fano will once more save coward keep stands fron Gallas

[Horus]

ያንተ መንጫረር ለኔ ሶፕ ኦፔራ ነው! ለምጻም ባንዳ!

[Dama]

Mitraq

"........Isenburg witnessed Gurage slaves begging at the feet of the King...."
This history cannot be right because if you are a slave you don't have the freedom to travel to appeal to others for your freedom.

[Misraq]

Slaves

Tulema Gala was selling you as slaves. Amhara king was freeing you. This was 200 years ago. History is repeating itself now. Tulema is again enslaving you. Shame on you that you serve them. But don't you worry Amhara Fano once again will free you from m your shackles.

[ethiopianunity]

Mr Cadre Horus and Misraq,

Are not discussing what cadre Horus posted video , l wonder why the cadre posted if not discussing what Motta was saying. Finally it is revealed that Shabia, PP and Tplf as one and the same. So Cadre Horus is in fact distracting us about Isayas, Aseb, bla bla as if pp is fighting against Shabia. All Shabians are ruling Ethiopia currently, Aby as symbol. No wonder Amara is dying like flies, esp very dangerous for Shewa and Gonder as fierce for Ethiopia.

Hahaha, Tplf was removed to install the number one enemy of Ethiopia and Amara Shabia.

Horus again distracting us Gojam king lost by Minilik. Hey Horus Shabo pp slave, right now the Minilik palace is being unearthed by PP Shabia, what say you? Ahhha, you are presenting your self to be Gurage when you are Gurage-pretending Shabo. As for r Olf, no wonder wonder all Eprdf pp leaders were pows of Shabia. It is all a show!

[Right]

EU,

You are absolutely right that PP is not going to fight Eritrea. You nailed it.
PP doesn’t have the army that can defeat Amhara & Tigray, let alone Eritrea.
Do you seriously believe Jula will fight Eritrea with the Guraghies? That is not going to happen.

Just watch a peace deal is coming in Istanbul or Cairo between PP & Issias. Mark my word.
But that will not save PP, it is on its way out.

Regardless, a 3 nations confederation is on the way. Amhara- Oromo - Tigray. Ethiopians can’t govern, themselves, certainly the 3 nations as well.
Ethiopia can not continue like this. It is about time that the elites of the 3 nations start to work a framework around it. The Amharas and Tigray will manage things on their own but I am not sure if the Oromos are ready.

[AbyssiniaLady]

a 3 nations confederation is on the way. Amhara- Oromo - Tigray

You keep repeating 3 nations but there are more than eighty-five nations in war-torn Ethiopia.

[Odie]

ያንተ መንጫረር ለኔ ሶፕ ኦፔራ ነው! ለምጻም ባንዳ!

Go check wikipedia!
Misraq copied it from there. I am sure it was edited by some one who thinks he/she knows kistane history probably from kistane itself. Although wikipedia is not generally a strong scientific reference it is a page whoever wants to shi t , sh its on. Instead of being Oromuma slave and waste time as their cadre, go correct the history. I thought you said Bahiru zewde is from your region and should know better and tell the truth or this the truth. Personally I know from oral history Gurage has been a victim of migrant and savage galas now oromos and lost fertile land and people to shrink to current size. The western Gurage had to stand another ሉምቡጣም ሃድያ atrocity still persisting in Mareko area and ቆስየ area. I am not sure if Gafat was part of Gurage and lost land and people due to expansion of our northern kins; need to check that. The savages decimated central ethiopia to reach to wellega/old ወለቃ. Am sure the አደሬ and the harla people suffered savagery from the atrocious in migration of the Galas/now oromo and lost land and people. Misraq has a point however bitter the taste may be. Now the OPP you support and the current system even brazenly denied Gurage self rule and doomed Gurage to hybridize with Hadiya. You idiot should stop supporting the savage Oromuma who sees you as their captive or inferior being and advocate for a just and all equal ethiopia or advocate about the unity and soverginity of the Gurage ethnic as Dama does. Otherwise you are a lost pathetic soul!

[ethiopianunity]

EU,

You are absolutely right that PP is not going to fight Eritrea. You nailed it.
PP doesn’t have the army that can defeat Amhara & Tigray, let alone Eritrea.
Do you seriously believe Jula will fight Eritrea with the Guraghies? That is not going to happen.

Just watch a peace deal is coming in Istanbul or Cairo between PP & Issias. Mark my word.
But that will not save PP, it is on its way out.

Regardless, a 3 nations confederation is on the way. Amhara- Oromo - Tigray. Ethiopians can’t govern, themselves, certainly the 3 nations as well.
Ethiopia can not continue like this. It is about time that the elites of the 3 nations start to work a framework around it. The Amharas and Tigray will manage things on their own but I am not sure if the Oromos are ready.

Right,

Not sure what your beef is in ER but the vision above will affect the minority if you are trying to create 3 major regions. The enlightened our kings of the past knew, you have to address everybody's concern culture and identity and Live and Let Live. They allowed languages, diverse cultures to thrive that make Ethiopia rainbow and it was becutiful! Except addressing issues of regions and ethnics (not the fake Liberation Fronts are saying. LFs used issues of ethnics and regions as cover but infact became foreign mercinaries. That is how communism was created be concerned with minoritites, poverty, low class, etc and hijack the government to target populations themselves who lived traditionally under the kings it turned out that populations as whole were targets. ) This also happened in Ethiopia. The three majore regions you propose eventually will betray one another for competion for power and work foreign enemies to get the upper hand. It won't work. The best method is government and populations should work together on every regions, for what is necessary.

[ethiopianunity]

Horus,

Why did you post Mota's Youtube if you do not discuss the concern of Mota that Shabia already has hijacked Ethiopia under PP Aby through intelligence? Do you think as Gura descendant you hope to ally with Shabia? Is that the reason you support this?

[Misraq]

ያንተ መንጫረር ለኔ ሶፕ ኦፔራ ነው! ለምጻም ባንዳ!

Go check wikipedia!
Misraq copied it from there. I am sure it was edited by some one who thinks he/she knows kistane history probably from kistane itself. Although wikipedia is not generally a strong scientific reference it is a page whoever wants to shi t , sh its on. Instead of being Oromuma slave and waste time as their cadre, go correct the history. I thought you said Bahiru zewde is from your region and should know better and tell the truth or this the truth. Personally I know from oral history Gurage has been a victim of migrant and savage galas now oromos and lost fertile land and people to shrink to current size. The western Gurage had to stand another ሉምቡጣም ሃድያ atrocity still persisting in Mareko area and ቆስየ area. I am not sure if Gafat was part of Gurage and lost land and people due to expansion of our northern kins; need to check that. The savages decimated central ethiopia to reach to wellega/old ወለቃ. Am sure the አደሬ and the harla people suffered savagery from the atrocious in migration of the Galas/now oromo and lost land and people. Misraq has a point however bitter the taste may be. Now the OPP you support and the current system even brazenly denied Gurage self rule and doomed Gurage to hybridize with Hadiya. You idiot should stop supporting the savage Oromuma who sees you as their captive or inferior being and advocate for a just and all equal ethiopia or advocate about the unity and soverginity of the Gurage ethnic as Dama does. Otherwise you are a lost pathetic soul!

Bekele Huressa is playing a tactical game where he will comply and be subordinate to the Tulema in return gets the favor to exist. What a miscalculation and a very naive move. Oromuma has no logic like that in its dictionary. Mogassa is the way for populations that are weak and encircled. No doubt Gurages put massive level of resistance during the galla invasion to still exist and survive while the Harla and Gafat together with 28 others vanished from the face of the earth and Adere/Hararis are allowed to exist in some 20k only and their pretty daughters were taken as prized brides for years reducing their number. Gurages fate will be that of Aderes unless serious resistance is created in south from all ethnicities there

[Odie]

ያንተ መንጫረር ለኔ ሶፕ ኦፔራ ነው! ለምጻም ባንዳ!

Go check wikipedia!
Misraq copied it from there. I am sure it was edited by some one who thinks he/she knows kistane history probably from kistane itself. Although wikipedia is not generally a strong scientific reference it is a page whoever wants to shi t , sh its on. Instead of being Oromuma slave and waste time as their cadre, go correct the history. I thought you said Bahiru zewde is from your region and should know better and tell the truth or this the truth. Personally I know from oral history Gurage has been a victim of migrant and savage galas now oromos and lost fertile land and people to shrink to current size. The western Gurage had to stand another ሉምቡጣም ሃድያ atrocity still persisting in Mareko area and ቆስየ area. I am not sure if Gafat was part of Gurage and lost land and people due to expansion of our northern kins; need to check that. The savages decimated central ethiopia to reach to wellega/old ወለቃ. Am sure the አደሬ and the harla people suffered savagery from the atrocious in migration of the Galas/now oromo and lost land and people. Misraq has a point however bitter the taste may be. Now the OPP you support and the current system even brazenly denied Gurage self rule and doomed Gurage to hybridize with Hadiya. You idiot should stop supporting the savage Oromuma who sees you as their captive or inferior being and advocate for a just and all equal ethiopia or advocate about the unity and soverginity of the Gurage ethnic as Dama does. Otherwise you are a lost pathetic soul!

Bekele Huressa is playing a tactical game where he will comply and be subordinate to the Tulema in return gets the favor to exist. What a miscalculation and a very naive move. Oromuma has no logic like that in its dictionary. Mogassa is the way for populations that are weak and encircled. No doubt Gurages put massive level of resistance during the galla invasion to still exist and survive while the Harla and Gafat together with 28 others vanished from the face of the earth and Adere/Hararis are allowed to exist in some 20k only and their pretty daughters were taken as prized brides for years reducing their number. Gurages fate will be that of Aderes unless serious resistance is created in south from all ethnicities there

I don’t know what is driving Horus to keep on posting his childish posts which I would not expect from any rational Gurage who are usually good in risk analysis and reserved not to take risky position quickly. OPP are either playing him with money or someone in his family or himself has investment or benefit from the current system. Dama mentally deranged by ethnic and religious obsession and hate. He is a kind of person the TPLF ethnic politics produced like the likes of Ermias largesse and Redwan Hussien. Again, I would not be surprised if he was a silte as the silte cadres have behaved just like him. No ordinary Gurage will behave like Dama. Shame on both!

[Dama]

ያንተ መንጫረር ለኔ ሶፕ ኦፔራ ነው! ለምጻም ባንዳ!

Go check wikipedia!
Misraq copied it from there. I am sure it was edited by some one who thinks he/she knows kistane history probably from kistane itself. Although wikipedia is not generally a strong scientific reference it is a page whoever wants to shi t , sh its on. Instead of being Oromuma slave and waste time as their cadre, go correct the history. I thought you said Bahiru zewde is from your region and should know better and tell the truth or this the truth. Personally I know from oral history Gurage has been a victim of migrant and savage galas now oromos and lost fertile land and people to shrink to current size. The western Gurage had to stand another ሉምቡጣም ሃድያ atrocity still persisting in Mareko area and ቆስየ area. I am not sure if Gafat was part of Gurage and lost land and people due to expansion of our northern kins; need to check that. The savages decimated central ethiopia to reach to wellega/old ወለቃ. Am sure the አደሬ and the harla people suffered savagery from the atrocious in migration of the Galas/now oromo and lost land and people. Misraq has a point however bitter the taste may be. Now the OPP you support and the current system even brazenly denied Gurage self rule and doomed Gurage to hybridize with Hadiya. You idiot should stop supporting the savage Oromuma who sees you as their captive or inferior being and advocate for a just and all equal ethiopia or advocate about the unity and soverginity of the Gurage ethnic as Dama does. Otherwise you are a lost pathetic soul!

This is a violation of Horus' human right at the fundamental level that states freedom of thought is an inalienable right of an individual to hold political or religious freely. He has the right to support or oppse any idea or an organization. You can't harass him, call him.names, intimidate him, or morally fault. Especially, you racist Odie can not dislodge Horus from his political belief. He told you several times, that no one tells Horus what to do, that he is his own boss.

[Abere]

Horus is emboldening genocidal Orommuma. If you are talking of human right, do not these victims and their families deserve justice that bring Abiy Ahmed and his fanatic Oromuma trolls yawning for more genocide before law? In Orommuma, you cannot entertain freedom of thought - Orommuma is all about brute force, annihilation, ambush and attack.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xtvflBNde3k

This is a violation of Horus' human right at the fundamental level that states freedom of thought is an inalienable right of an individual to hold political or religious freely. He has the right to support or oppse any idea or an organization. You can't harass him, call him.names, intimidate him, or morally fault. Especially, you racist Odie can not dislodge Horus from his political belief. He told you several times, that no one tells Horus what to do, that he is his own boss.

[Dama]

Horus is emboldening genocidal Orommuma. If you are talking of human right, do not these victims and their families deserve justice that bring Abiy Ahmed and his fanatic Oromuma trolls yawning for more genocide before law? In Orommuma, you cannot entertain freedom of thought - Orommuma is all about brute force, annihilation, ambush and attack.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xtvflBNde3k

This is a violation of Horus' human right at the fundamental level that states freedom of thought is an inalienable right of an individual to hold political or religious freely. He has the right to support or oppse any idea or an organization. You can't harass him, call him.names, intimidate him, or morally fault. Especially, you racist Odie can not dislodge Horus from his political belief. He told you several times, that no one tells Horus what to do, that he is his own boss.

No, he doesn't. Don't lie.

[Selam/]

በአስር ጣቶቼ እፈርማለሁ፣ ጭልፊቱ ሞላጫ ሌባ ነው!

[Dama]

Slaves

Tulema Gala was selling you as slaves. Amhara king was freeing you. This was 200 years ago. History is repeating itself now. Tulema is again enslaving you. Shame on you that you serve them. But don't you worry Amhara Fano once again will free you from m your shackles.

Mitraq!

You sound uninformed by purpose and choice. In those days, everobdy sold everybody. If you think Amara was not sold, you are uninformed. If you think Sodos did not sell Oromo, you are uninformed. It was a time of no rules. The only rule was whthere you can raid a village, at night, midday, evening or morning, kidnap one or a few and get away. Get away until a revenging hord came back knocking on your door or anyones' in your village.
While all this happened, there was affection, appreciation, saying to each other good people, especialky families in Oromo desiring to mary Sodo girls, class to class or criss-crossing class.

Examples:
We know for example, Ras Gobena Dace of Shewa Oromo, second man in power to Menelick was married to Sodo's Askalech of a high ranking family. His only wife with children.
Dejazmatch Geresu Duki of Chebo, Weliso, was married to Sodo's Werke Elema of noble family. Sodo's Dejaz G.mariam
G.Mariam introduced him to Haile Sellasie.

Complex situation you present it as a simple black and white. I think it may be true that you work with a single-cell brain.

[Odie]

Slaves

Tulema Gala was selling you as slaves. Amhara king was freeing you. This was 200 years ago. History is repeating itself now. Tulema is again enslaving you. Shame on you that you serve them. But don't you worry Amhara Fano once again will free you from m your shackles.

Mitraq!

You sound uninformed by purpose and choice. In those days, everobdy sold everybody. If you think Amara was not sold, you are uninformed. If you think Sodos did not sell Oromo, you are uninformed. It was a time of no rules. The only rule was whthere you can raid a village, at night, midday, evening or morning, kidnap one or a few and get away. Get away until a revenging hord came back knocking on your door or anyones' in your village.
While all this happened, there was affection, appreciation, saying to each other good people, especialky families in Oromo desiring to mary Sodo girls, class to class or criss-crossing class.

Examples:
We know for example, Ras Gobena Dace of Shewa Oromo, second man in power to Menelick was married to Sodo's Askalech of a high ranking family. His only wife with children.
Dejazmatch Geresu Duki of Chebo, Weliso, was married to Sodo's Werke Elema of noble family. Sodo's Dejaz G.mariam
G.Mariam introduced him to Haile Sellasie.

Complex situation you present it as a simple black and white. I think it may be true that you work with a single-cell brain.

In this case it makes sense when menelik built a nation and brought order of some kind the cannibalism has stopped rescuing everybody. You have to appreciate that at least. Give respect to the one who deserved. If it was not for menelik to regulate Gobena, we don’t know what could have happened to central eastern Ethiopia ethnics. By now everybody might have been singing ያምፋሮ ሌንጫ and speaking KUBE!!
Horus ofcourse may not have been here to tell us the history about our business souvy kin’s kistanes!
I don’t buy Gobena married Askale after asking her hand but by the oromo traditional way of ABDUCTION. He is the guy who turned Balcha safo to eunuch!
Please don’t try to trick us as there was no such thing as people lived in love that time and slavery/abduction was occasional as the winners always decimated their victims and totally owned them changed them to their servants to live in the winners culture. An interesting study would have been to look at how many heads of Oromos came into mainland and in how many centuries they achieved their current size (threatening to colonize us again forever) or simply they robbed the land and they acculturated other ethnics into their ethnicity so that their head count could swell and dominate!