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Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Jun 2025, 21:01

Andargachew Tsege and Gedu Andargachew's mission to Asmara and implications for Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa.

Recent reports indicate that Andargachew Tsege, a prominent Ethiopian opposition figure and former leader of the banned Ginbot 7 movement, alongside Gedu Andargachew, former president of the Amara region and a key political figure, are set to travel to Asmara, to engage in high- level discussions with Eritrean government officials.

This development comes at a critical juncture in the Horn of Africa, where regional tensions, Ethiopia's internal conflicts, and shifting alliances continue to shape geopolitical dynamics.

1. Background: who are Andargachew Tsege and Gedu Andargachew?



Andargachew Tsege: From armed struggle to political opposition

• Former leader of Ginbot 7, an armed opposition group that was designated as a terrorist organizations by Ethiopia before its dissolution following Abyi Ahmed's reforms in 2018.

• Arrested in 2014 in Yemen, extradited to Ethiopia, and sentenced to death in absentia for alleged coup plotting.

• Released in 2018 as part of PM Abyi's political reforms but later became critical of the government, accusing it of authoritarian tendencies.

• Maintains strong ties with Eritrea, having previously operated from there during his opposition activities.



Gedu Andargachew: A key Amara Political Figure.

• Served as President of the Amara region (2013-2019) under the EPRDF government.

• Initially supported Abyi Ahmed's reforms but later clashed with the Prosperity Party (PP), particularly over the Amara nationalist movement and the Fano militia's role.

• Arrested in 2023 amid rising tensions between Federal forces and Amara regional forces but later released under unclear circumstances.

• Seen as a moderate but influential figure in Amara politics, balancing between federal authority and regional demands.

2. The purpose of the Asmara meeting: Key discussion points.

The delegation's visit to Eritrea suggests a strategic effort to coordinate opposition voices and seek regional support amid Ethiopia's escalating crises. Possible discussion topics include:

A. Ethiopia's political crises under Abyi Ahmed.

• Growing discontent with Abyi's government over centralization of power, ethnic conflicts, and economic instability.

• Oromo- Amara tensions: the government's perceived favoritism towards Oromo factions has alienated Amara elites.

B. Eritrea's Role in Ethiopian Politics.

• Eritrea's President Isaias Afwerki has historically supported Ethiopian opposition groups (e.g., Tigray People's Liberation Front [TPLF] in the 1990's and later Ginbot 7)

• Potential Eritrean support for anti- government forces, including intelligence sharing or political backing.

C. Regional Stability in the Horn of Africa

• Sudan's civil war and its spillover effects on Eritrea and Ethiopia.

• Somalia's tensions with Ethiopia over the Somaliland port deal, which Eritrea opposes.

• Red Sea security and Ethiopia's quest for sea access, a contentious issue with Eritrea.

3. Implications for Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa

A. Escalating opposition to Abyi Ahmed's government.

• If Eritrea provides tacit or explicit support to Ethiopian opposition figures, it could embolden anti-Abyi movements, including armed factions.

• A unified opposition front (Amara nationalists, Oromo dissidents and former Ginbot 7 members) could destabilise the Prosperity Party's hold.

B. Eritrea's strategic calculations

• Isaias Afwerki may exploit Ethiopia's instability to regain leverage after years of Ethiopian dominance in Regional politics.

• Possible mediation role: Eritrea could position itself as a power broker between Ethiopia factions.

C. Impact on Regional Alliances

• Deterioration of Eritrea-Ethiopia relations if Asmara is seen as undermining Abyi.

• Potential realignment of Regional.powers (e.g., Egypt, UAE, Somalia) depending on Ethiopia's political trajectory.

A pivotal Moment for Ethiopia.

The upcoming meeting between Andargachew Tsege, Gedu Andargachew, and Eritrean officials marks a significant development in Ethiopia's political landscape. If Eritrea decides to support anti-Abyi factions it could lead to:

Increased domestic pressure on Abyi Ahmed's government.

Further militarisation of opposition movements, particularly in Amara.

A shift in HoA alliances, with Eritrea reassuring itself as key player.

As Ethiopia grapples with internal fractures and external pressures, the outcome of these talks could determine whether the country moves toward reconciliation or deeper conflict.

Final Thoughts

This mission to Asmara underscores the fragility of Ethiopia's political order and the enduring influence of Eritrea in Ethiopian affairs. The Horn of Africa remains a volatile region where shifting loyalties and external interventions can rapidly alter the balance of power.

Will Eritrea play the role of spoiler or mediator?

The answer may reshape Ethiopia's future- and the wider region's stability.
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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Misraq » 15 Jun 2025, 22:05

Fvck Gedu Andargachew
Fvck Andargachew Tsige
Fvck Shabia, the lowlife p!mp who is labelling these two TPLF & OPDO servant donkeys as Amharas.

Taye Denda, the great Oromo can represent Amharas way better than these two prostitutes.


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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Noble Amhara » 15 Jun 2025, 23:38

Misraq wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 22:05
Fvck Gedu Andargachew
Fvck Andargachew Tsige
Fvck Shabia, the lowlife p!mp who is labelling these two TPLF & OPDO servant donkeys as Amharas.

Taye Denda, the great Oromo can represent Amharas way better than these two prostitutes.

There is no real relationship with Amhara and Shabia

When Amhara was attacked by PP in 2023 shabia was silent. Shabia only started acting pro-amhara after 2024 when Abiy started his MOU Project which threaten Shabias ability to landlock Ethiopia.

Any sort of Amhara Alliance with ISAIAS without no military support of weapons from Eritrea is pointless. Gedu Tsige and Andargachew Tsige are lame losers.

Instead of being heroic like General Tefera Mamo of Lasta who escaped to Amhara region to join Fano they comfortly lived in Diaspora now they are returning to their Tigrinya Master for nothing in return other then being a lapdog for a foreign nation

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Noble Amhara » 15 Jun 2025, 23:54

Misraq wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 22:05
Fvck Gedu Andargachew
Fvck Andargachew Tsige
Fvck Shabia, the lowlife p!mp who is labelling these two TPLF & OPDO servant donkeys as Amharas.

Taye Denda, the great Oromo can represent Amharas way better than these two prostitutes.

Taya Denda is from Salale he is well learned with Amhara - Oromo relations and Societal Affairs.

Taye Denda left PP during the Amhara war in 2023 he was greatly angered how Wedi Beshasha caused the war in Amhara

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 02:16

It's amazing, you cowards never say: fûck the USA.

Abyi would never have dared to turn on the Amara militia who helped him against weyane, without the approval & encouragement of AmeriKKKa.

At least, dare even say fûck the UAE.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Misraq » 16 Jun 2025, 07:57

Fvck Shabia, the old pig that is now playing from the same script weyane played 30 years ago.

Shabia trying to brand Andargachew & Gedu as Amhara and support them is a clear indication that we have to deal with this monster one way or another.

Zemso, you are the regimes propaganda outlet and thank you for that early warning bell. We take it from here and work on it

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zack » 16 Jun 2025, 08:30

The prospects for reconciliation between the Amhara and Eritrean peoples appear bleak, burdened as they are by a long history of deepseated animosities, hatred on both sides unresolved grievances, and profound tragedy. Merely mentioning Haile Selassie in the presence of an Eritrean such as our very own fellow Cigar often elicits a reaction such as sounding like a raped woman . Furthermore, Afewerki himself never genuinely endeavoured to support the authentic Amhara opposition rather, he preferred to offer mere lip service. As a collective, the Amhara harbour little trust towards Eritrea and its leadership a sentiment that is, regrettably, reciprocated in equal measure indeed.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 09:07

Fûck the USA!

C'mon, say it!
:lol:

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Misraq wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 07:57
Fvck Shabia, the old pig that is now playing from the same script weyane played 30 years ago.

Shabia trying to brand Andargachew & Gedu as Amhara and support them is a clear indication that we have to deal with this monster one way or another.

Zemso, you are the regimes propaganda outlet and thank you for that early warning bell. We take it from here and work on it

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 09:12

I'm a fire starter. Twisted, fire starter!
crack-jack zack sûck- àss fàcefûcked. :lol:

Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 08:30
The prospects for reconciliation between the Amhara and Eritrean peoples appear bleak, burdened as they are by a long history of deepseated animosities, hatred on both sides unresolved grievances, and profound tragedy. Merely mentioning Haile Selassie in the presence of an Eritrean such as our very own fellow Cigar often elicits a reaction such as sounding like a raped woman . Furthermore, Afewerki himself never genuinely endeavoured to support the authentic Amhara opposition rather, he preferred to offer mere lip service. As a collective, the Amhara harbour little trust towards Eritrea and its leadership a sentiment that is, regrettably, reciprocated in equal measure indeed.

Dr Zackovich.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by sesame » 16 Jun 2025, 09:18

Eritreans don't care about the ethnicities of their neighbours. The only thing we demand is that they rocognize Eritrea and respect the sovereign will of its people. This was the sina qua non for relations from the 1970s on! Now that Ethiopia is disintegrating, it is in the best interest of the Amharas, Afars and Tigrays to have relations with Eritrea!
Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 08:30
The prospects for reconciliation between the Amhara and Eritrean peoples appear bleak, burdened as they are by a long history of deepseated animosities, hatred on both sides unresolved grievances, and profound tragedy. Merely mentioning Haile Selassie in the presence of an Eritrean such as our very own fellow Cigar often elicits a reaction such as sounding like a raped woman . Furthermore, Afewerki himself never genuinely endeavoured to support the authentic Amhara opposition rather, he preferred to offer mere lip service. As a collective, the Amhara harbour little trust towards Eritrea and its leadership a sentiment that is, regrettably, reciprocated in equal measure indeed.

Dr Zackovich.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zack » 16 Jun 2025, 09:23

I very much doubt that is the case. Dictator Afewerki has long approached Ethiopia as a nation defined primarily by the ethnic groups whose opposition movements he hosted during the struggle against the TPLF led government. To suggest that Shabia holds no regard for Ethiopia's diverse ethnic constituencies is, in truth, disingenuous. Their involvement has consistently reflected a strategic calculus shaped by ethnic dynamics within Ethiopia, rather than an indifference to them.



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Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 09:34

A dr's shoeshiner, you have zero clue. Don't pretend, otherwise.

The number 1 issue of disagreement between the EPLF and TPLF was, the weyane agenda of dividing the country on ethnic terms.

That's why, you don't hear of any ethnic conflicts among the 9 different tribes of Eritrea.




Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:23
I very much doubt that is the case. Dictator Afewerki has long approached Ethiopia as a nation defined primarily by the ethnic groups whose opposition movements he hosted during the struggle against the TPLF led government. To suggest that Shabia holds no regard for Ethiopia's diverse ethnic constituencies is, in truth, disingenuous. Their involvement has consistently reflected a strategic calculus shaped by ethnic dynamics within Ethiopia, rather than an indifference to them.



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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zack » 16 Jun 2025, 09:41

Zmeselo wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:34
A dr's shoeshiner, you have zero clue. Don't pretend, otherwise.

The number 1 issue of disagreement between the EPLF and TPLF was, the weyane agenda of dividing the country on ethnic terms.

That's why, you don't hear of any ethnic conflicts among the 9 different tribes of Eritrea.




Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:23
I very much doubt that is the case. Dictator Afewerki has long approached Ethiopia as a nation defined primarily by the ethnic groups whose opposition movements he hosted during the struggle against the TPLF led government. To suggest that Shabia holds no regard for Ethiopia's diverse ethnic constituencies is, in truth, disingenuous. Their involvement has consistently reflected a strategic calculus shaped by ethnic dynamics within Ethiopia, rather than an indifference to them.



Dr Zackovich

Why would you care for the ethnic division of Ethiopia, the best thing TPLF and woyane did was ethnic federalism we Somalis and i can speak for the affars and the gallas are the one thing they all agree on the ethnic federalims the late genius meles zenawi created was the best thing just because amhara do not like it doesnt mean we dislike it , as an Eritrean its non of your concern about the domestic issues of Ethiopia.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 10:09

Really? :lol:

He'd be very happy seeing where his tigray and TPLF are today then, I guess.

Btw, should I be happy and jump for joy, if in future the Somali and Afar of Djibouti start slaughtering each other?

By your logic, I should.


Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:41
Zmeselo wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:34
A dr's shoeshiner, you have zero clue. Don't pretend, otherwise.

The number 1 issue of disagreement between the EPLF and TPLF was, the weyane agenda of dividing the country on ethnic terms.

That's why, you don't hear of any ethnic conflicts among the 9 different tribes of Eritrea.




Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 09:23
I very much doubt that is the case. Dictator Afewerki has long approached Ethiopia as a nation defined primarily by the ethnic groups whose opposition movements he hosted during the struggle against the TPLF led government. To suggest that Shabia holds no regard for Ethiopia's diverse ethnic constituencies is, in truth, disingenuous. Their involvement has consistently reflected a strategic calculus shaped by ethnic dynamics within Ethiopia, rather than an indifference to them.



Dr Zackovich

Why would you care for the ethnic division of Ethiopia, the best thing TPLF and woyane did was ethnic federalism we Somalis and i can speak for the affars and the gallas are the one thing they all agree on the ethnic federalims the late genius meles zenawi created was the best thing just because amhara do not like it doesnt mean we dislike it , as an Eritrean its non of your concern about the domestic issues of Ethiopia.

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Misraq » 16 Jun 2025, 10:23

Tegaru brother Zack,

All your analysis will always end up praising the midget Meles Zenawi. You are classic :lol: :lol: . Anyways, two new players entered in the horn politics (Amhara and Oromo) on their own way and assertions. That is why the senile and weak Issayas rushed to alliance with TPLF ጽምዶ:: This is called survival mode showing that he considers himself fragile with a simple threat from Oromos only :lol: :lol:

Issayas has this old habits of thinking that he is a king maker. He succeded in installing the midget Zenawi and He failed on Abiy Ahmed big time. His attempt to make Andargachew Tsige and Gedu new kings is just a pure self m@$terbation. It will be rejected from the get go and chances are high that this will backfire. This type of childish game will even make him hated among Eritreans. Why would he do what TPLF has done on Amharas? helping the most hated and despised sell outs and branding them as Amharas

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zack » 16 Jun 2025, 10:28

i fail to understand why you presume Ethiopia and its people to be your allies. Have you not observed the complex realities of their leadership? Haile Selassie was Amhara; Mengistu was of mixed Galla and Amhara bantu omotic descent Meles was Tigrayan with partial Eritrean heritage and Abiy is Galla. Regardless of who occupies the throne, they remain your adversaries. As the saying goes... አርዳኢ ጋላ እሱን አማራ እንደሚያስበው ነው


by the way if we Somalis and Afars fight i hope you support Somalis we are actully did fight in ethiopia the past 2 years in sitte they claim our land

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 10:51

And how many years, collectively, have Meles & Abyi ruled you?

If that ain't king-makery, I don't know what is.

As for Endargachew & Gedu is concerned, we don't know all the details. They might've asked for this thing themselves, to begin with.

What should the Eri- gov't have done, then? Reject their call, because mitraQ may be offended?

And who gave you the wrong belief, the Eri- gov't and Fano don't have any communication whatsoever already?


Misraq wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 10:23
Tegaru brother Zack,

All your analysis will always end up praising the midget Meles Zenawi. You are classic :lol: :lol: . Anyways, two new players entered in the horn politics (Amhara and Oromo) on their own way and assertions. That is why the senile and weak Issayas rushed to alliance with TPLF ጽምዶ:: This is called survival mode showing that he considers himself fragile with a simple threat from Oromos only :lol: :lol:

Issayas has this old habits of thinking that he is a king maker. He succeded in installing the midget Zenawi and He failed on Abiy Ahmed big time. His attempt to make Andargachew Tsige and Gedu new kings is just a pure self m@$terbation. It will be rejected from the get go and chances are high that this will backfire. This type of childish game will even make him hated among Eritreans. Why would he do what TPLF has done on Amharas? helping the most hated and despised sell outs and branding them as Amharas

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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jun 2025, 11:06

They're not my enemy either, no matter how much you want them to be.

When the Eritrean gov't wishes or advises something good to a neighboring group it's for the sake of the people, not for the leaders to then build places and live in luxury. It's because we believe the peace & harmony in our neighbourhood is in our interest, too. We're not interested in war and all the misery it will bring in huge neighbouring country like Ethiopia, because we're a small nation who has no patron or defender when then "sh!t hits the fan". Your house is not safe, when your neighbour's house is on fire. The same policy with Sudan and, as is proven, with Somalia.

But if Ethiopia MUST end up like former Yugoslavia after much bloodshed, then so be it. But we won't be 1 who adds fuel to the fire, either.


Zack wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 10:28
i fail to understand why you presume Ethiopia and its people to be your allies. Have you not observed the complex realities of their leadership? Haile Selassie was Amhara; Mengistu was of mixed Galla and Amhara bantu omotic descent Meles was Tigrayan with partial Eritrean heritage and Abiy is Galla. Regardless of who occupies the throne, they remain your adversaries. As the saying goes... አርዳኢ ጋላ እሱን አማራ እንደሚያስበው ነው


by the way if we Somalis and Afars fight i hope you support Somalis we are actully did fight in ethiopia the past 2 years in sitte they claim our land

Dr Zackovich
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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Misraq » 16 Jun 2025, 11:20

Zmeselo wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 10:51
And how many years, collectively, have Meles & Abyi ruled you?

If that ain't king-makery, I don't know what is.

As for Endargachew & Gedu is concerned, we don't know all the details. They might've asked for this thing themselves, to begin with.

What should the Eri- gov't have done, then? Reject their call, because mitraQ may be offended?

And who gave you the wrong belief, the Eri- gov't and Fano don't have any communication whatsoever already?


Misraq wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 10:23
Tegaru brother Zack,

All your analysis will always end up praising the midget Meles Zenawi. You are classic :lol: :lol: . Anyways, two new players entered in the horn politics (Amhara and Oromo) on their own way and assertions. That is why the senile and weak Issayas rushed to alliance with TPLF ጽምዶ:: This is called survival mode showing that he considers himself fragile with a simple threat from Oromos only :lol: :lol:

Issayas has this old habits of thinking that he is a king maker. He succeded in installing the midget Zenawi and He failed on Abiy Ahmed big time. His attempt to make Andargachew Tsige and Gedu new kings is just a pure self m@$terbation. It will be rejected from the get go and chances are high that this will backfire. This type of childish game will even make him hated among Eritreans. Why would he do what TPLF has done on Amharas? helping the most hated and despised sell outs and branding them as Amharas
If you measure success based on how much pain you caused us through Meles and Abiy discounting the pain you went through, that is fine. Realities is that your people went through hell to the point of selling their kidneys to get out of your country not to mention the war and poverty your guy Meles caused you for over two decades and the alleged 80k lose you endured in the Tigray war. If that is success you brag about you are lame.


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Re: Eritrea-Amara relations!

Post by Tiago » 16 Jun 2025, 11:38

These guys do not represent FANO so their trip to Asmera is not in any way linked to FANO.
FANO has not solicited any form of help from Eritrea and contrary to what some believe FANO was not formed by Eritrea.
in fact, these opportunist men are trying to hijack the FANO struggle by bringing TPLF along.

Andargachew is very well known for saying "there is no Amhara" so how can he be representing a people that doesn't exist???

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