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ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Naga Tuma » 14 Jun 2025, 18:29

Horus and Misraq aka Semira.

No, I did not call either one an idiot.

However, each has called out the other an idiot on this forum.

ቀልዱ ኢድየት ለመባባል ምስክሮቹ እራሳቸዉ መሆናቸዉ ነዉ።

ቁም ነገሩ ኣንዱ ምን ኣስተዉሎ ነዉ ሌላዉን ኢድየት ያለዉ ነዉ።

ነግሬያችሁ ነበረ መረጃ ላይ ጽፌ፣
ይህም፣ ያም ስለ ጥንታዊዉ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ ከፊል ዕዉነትን ይዘዉ የሚጓዙ ናቸዉ ብዬ።

ይህም ሌላ መለኮታዊ ጽምዶ ይሆን? ኣንዱን ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ፣ ሌላዉንም ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ መንገድ የምያስይዝ?

I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.

When I joined this forum, I hoped to encounter some enlightened Ethiopians that I could discuss with what I understood about the Exodus after reading quite a bit about our region’s ancient history.

ስለ ስደት ታሪክ የሚመራመሩ እና መወያየት የሚችሉትን ኢትዮጵያዊያን ምሁራንን እየፈለኩ ነበር።

ሁለቱንም በአካል ባላዉቃቸዉም የሚጽፉትን እያነበብኩ ለዚህ ዉይይት ብቃት ሊኖራቸዉ ይችላል ብዬ ገመትኩኝ። ሌሎችም ነበሩ።

ስለ ታሪኩ ሆረስ ሶስተኛ መጽሓፍን ጽፎ ታሪኩን ኣስተካክሎ እንድያገባድድ እስከ መጋበዝ ደርሼ ነበር። ሁለት ተጽፈዉ ሶስተኛ ጎድሏል።

የመጀመርያዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ እስራኤላዊ የሆነ ስግመንድ ፍሪዩድ ነዉ።

ሁለተኛዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ ግብጻዊ የሆነ አህመድ ኦስማን ነዉ።

የሁለቶቹን ስራዎችን የምያስተካክል እና የምያገባድ በኢትዮጵያዊ የተጻፈ መጽሓፍ እስከ ኣሁን ድረስ ኣላጋጠመኝም።

ከሁለቱም ጋር ሀሳብ እያከፈልኩ እና ለሚጽፉት መልስ እየሰጠሁ ሙያዊ ዉይይት ወይም ፕሮፌሽናል ድስኮርስ ብቃት የምያንሳቸዉ፣ ስለ ስደት የምያስተምሩ እንጂ የማይመራመሩ መሆናቸዉን ኣስተዉዬ ኣዝኜ ምርምሬን ቀጠልኩኝ።

ዓመታት ኣልፈዉ ሁለቱም ኢድየት ሲባባሉ ኣልተገረምኩም።

In my view, each of them has been living and largely continues to live in his perceived realities about Ethiopia’s ancient history.

When two individuals live in their perceived realities about the same thing, to the extent that their perceived realities are incoherent, it would be only a matter of time before they collide.

Add to that if each has his own ego. A few days ago, I wondered whose ego would win if a self claimed stable genius and a self claimed genius collide. Somebody commented that ego has no place there.

In essence, when two individuals who are beholden to incoherent perceived realities collide, it is not the individuals who are colliding. The incoherent partial truths collide in search of coherence in truth.
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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Horus » 14 Jun 2025, 18:41

Naga Tuma wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 18:29
Horus and Misraq aka Semira.

No, I did not call either one an idiot.

However, each has called out the other an idiot on this forum.

ቀልዱ ኢድየት ለመባባል ምስክሮቹ እራሳቸዉ መሆናቸዉ ነዉ።

ቁም ነገሩ ኣንዱ ምን ኣስተዉሎ ነዉ ሌላዉን ኢድየት ያለዉ ነዉ።

ነግሬያችሁ ነበረ መረጃ ላይ ጽፌ፣
ይህም፣ ያም ስለ ጥንታዊዉ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ ከፊል ዕዉነትን ይዘዉ የሚጓዙ ናቸዉ ብዬ።

ይህም ሌላ መለኮታዊ ጽምዶ ይሆን? ኣንዱን ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ፣ ሌላዉንም ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ መንገድ የምያስይዝ?

I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.

When I joined this forum, I hoped to encounter some enlightened Ethiopians that I could discuss with what I understood about the Exodus after reading quite a bit about our region’s ancient history.

ስለ ስደት ታሪክ የሚመራመሩ እና መወያየት የሚችሉትን ኢትዮጵያዊያን ምሁራንን እየፈለኩ ነበር።

ሁለቱንም በአካል ባላዉቃቸዉም የሚጽፉትን እያነበብኩ ለዚህ ዉይይት ብቃት ሊኖራቸዉ ይችላል ብዬ ገመትኩኝ። ሌሎችም ነበሩ።

ስለ ታሪኩ ሆረስ ሶስተኛ መጽሓፍን ጽፎ ታሪኩን ኣስተካክሎ እንድያገባድድ እስከ መጋበዝ ደርሼ ነበር። ሁለት ተጽፈዉ ሶስተኛ ጎድሏል።

የመጀመርያዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ እስራኤላዊ የሆነ ስግመንድ ፍሪዩድ ነዉ።

ሁለተኛዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ ግብጻዊ የሆነ አህመድ ኦስማን ነዉ።

የሁለቶቹን ስራዎችን የምያስተካክል እና የምያገባድ በኢትዮጵያዊ የተጻፈ መጽሓፍ እስከ ኣሁን ድረስ ኣላጋጠመኝም።

ከሁለቱም ጋር ሀሳብ እያከፈልኩ እና ለሚጽፉት መልስ እየሰጠሁ ሙያዊ ዉይይት ወይም ፕሮፌሽናል ድስኮርስ ብቃት የምያንሳቸዉ፣ ስለ ስደት የምያስተምሩ እንጂ የማይመራመሩ መሆናቸዉን ኣስተዉዬ ኣዝኜ ምርምሬን ቀጠልኩኝ።

ዓመታት ኣልፈዉ ሁለቱም ኢድየት ሲባባሉ ኣልተገረምኩም።

In my view, each of them has been living and largely continues to live in his perceived realities about Ethiopia’s ancient history.

When two individuals live in their perceived realities about the same thing, to the extent that their perceived realities are incoherent, it would be only a matter of time before they collide.

Add to that if each has his own ego. A few days ago, I wondered whose ego would win if a self claimed stable genius and a self claimed genius collide. Somebody commented that ego has no place there.

In essence, when that happens, it is not the individuals who are colliding, the incoherent partial truths collide in search of coherence in truth.
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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Naga Tuma » 14 Jun 2025, 18:48

Horus wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 18:41
Naga Tuma wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 18:29
Horus and Misraq aka Semira.

No, I did not call either one an idiot.

However, each has called out the other an idiot on this forum.

ቀልዱ ኢድየት ለመባባል ምስክሮቹ እራሳቸዉ መሆናቸዉ ነዉ።

ቁም ነገሩ ኣንዱ ምን ኣስተዉሎ ነዉ ሌላዉን ኢድየት ያለዉ ነዉ።

ነግሬያችሁ ነበረ መረጃ ላይ ጽፌ፣
ይህም፣ ያም ስለ ጥንታዊዉ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ ከፊል ዕዉነትን ይዘዉ የሚጓዙ ናቸዉ ብዬ።

ይህም ሌላ መለኮታዊ ጽምዶ ይሆን? ኣንዱን ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ፣ ሌላዉንም ከፊል ዕዉነትን ኣስታቅፎ መንገድ የምያስይዝ?

I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.

When I joined this forum, I hoped to encounter some enlightened Ethiopians that I could discuss with what I understood about the Exodus after reading quite a bit about our region’s ancient history.

ስለ ስደት ታሪክ የሚመራመሩ እና መወያየት የሚችሉትን ኢትዮጵያዊያን ምሁራንን እየፈለኩ ነበር።

ሁለቱንም በአካል ባላዉቃቸዉም የሚጽፉትን እያነበብኩ ለዚህ ዉይይት ብቃት ሊኖራቸዉ ይችላል ብዬ ገመትኩኝ። ሌሎችም ነበሩ።

ስለ ታሪኩ ሆረስ ሶስተኛ መጽሓፍን ጽፎ ታሪኩን ኣስተካክሎ እንድያገባድድ እስከ መጋበዝ ደርሼ ነበር። ሁለት ተጽፈዉ ሶስተኛ ጎድሏል።

የመጀመርያዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ እስራኤላዊ የሆነ ስግመንድ ፍሪዩድ ነዉ።

ሁለተኛዉን የጻፈዉ መሠረቱ ግብጻዊ የሆነ አህመድ ኦስማን ነዉ።

የሁለቶቹን ስራዎችን የምያስተካክል እና የምያገባድ በኢትዮጵያዊ የተጻፈ መጽሓፍ እስከ ኣሁን ድረስ ኣላጋጠመኝም።

ከሁለቱም ጋር ሀሳብ እያከፈልኩ እና ለሚጽፉት መልስ እየሰጠሁ ሙያዊ ዉይይት ወይም ፕሮፌሽናል ድስኮርስ ብቃት የምያንሳቸዉ፣ ስለ ስደት የምያስተምሩ እንጂ የማይመራመሩ መሆናቸዉን ኣስተዉዬ ኣዝኜ ምርምሬን ቀጠልኩኝ።

ዓመታት ኣልፈዉ ሁለቱም ኢድየት ሲባባሉ ኣልተገረምኩም።

In my view, each of them has been living and largely continues to live in his perceived realities about Ethiopia’s ancient history.

When two individuals live in their perceived realities about the same thing, to the extent that their perceived realities are incoherent, it would be only a matter of time before they collide.

Add to that if each has his own ego. A few days ago, I wondered whose ego would win if a self claimed stable genius and a self claimed genius collide. Somebody commented that ego has no place there.

In essence, when two individuals who are beholden to incoherent perceived realities collide, it is not the individuals who are colliding. The incoherent partial truths collide in search of coherence in truth.
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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Naga Tuma » 14 Jun 2025, 22:05

Here is a simple litmus test for my observed expression here.

I imagine that both of these Ethiopians may have been activists about Ethiopia’s political problems for a long time now.

If so, the litmus test is having been in it for so long, do they today have a coherent narrative about federalism in Ethiopia?

My reading is that they don’t have it after spending such a long time in it. I wish to be proven wrong.

sesame:

If by a chance you read this comment, granted that I have established that they don’t have a coherent narrative about the same issue, do you mind explaining from just a rational point how this could happen?

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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Somaliman » 14 Jun 2025, 23:00

I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.
Even if had time on my hands and couldn't find anything to do whatsoever, I wouldn't bother discussing two fuc'kers of the highest order calling each other an idiot!

Make no mistake, no one else on this forum gets surprised by witnessing these retards calling each other an idiot, as everyone else on the forum calls them idiot clowns too, who know nothing else other than flooding the forum with their diarrhea.

After all, idiots recognise each other!

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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Naga Tuma » 14 Jun 2025, 23:29

Whether you recognize each other isn’t the point.

The point is what gives about your failures to understand each other after so long of activism about the same issue such as Ethiopia’s current federalism system.

Do you mind sparing a little time to explain just this point and only this point?
Somaliman wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:00
I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.
Even if had time on my hands and couldn't find anything to do whatsoever, I wouldn't bother discussing two fuc'kers of the highest order calling each other an idiot!

Make no mistake, no one else on this forum gets surprised by witnessing these retards calling each other an idiot, as everyone else on the forum calls them idiot clowns too, who know nothing else other than flooding the forum with their diarrhea.

After all, idiots recognise each other!

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Re: ቀልድ እና ቁምነገር፥ The two “idiots” on this forum according to Horus and Misraq

Post by Somaliman » 15 Jun 2025, 07:59

Naga Tuma wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:29
Whether you recognize each other isn’t the point.

The point is what gives about your failures to understand each other after so long of activism about the same issue such as Ethiopia’s current federalism system.

Do you mind sparing a little time to explain just this point and only this point?
Somaliman wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:00
I wasn’t surprised when I read each calling out the other an idiot.
Even if had time on my hands and couldn't find anything to do whatsoever, I wouldn't bother discussing two fuc'kers of the highest order calling each other an idiot!

Make no mistake, no one else on this forum gets surprised by witnessing these retards calling each other an idiot, as everyone else on the forum calls them idiot clowns too, who know nothing else other than flooding the forum with their diarrhea.

After all, idiots recognise each other!




Whether you recognize each other isn’t the point.
I've said that idiots recognise between themselves and that's why they're calling each other an idiot.


I don't see anything to explain but ask you to stop insulting ACTIVISM, as the diarrhea of these two arseholes has nothing to do with activism.

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