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[Selam/]

[ethiopianunity]

This argument is designed to take Ethiopians out of the Orthodox! Ethiopia survived following Christ and his mother. There is no Christ with out his mother. Pretty healthy to follow have meeting with the Saints and Angels too as they are soldiers and messengers of God and Christ.

Ethiopia had replaced the names of St Paulos Hospital and St Petros with some kind of Illuminati name Millenium hospital haha. No foreigner nations that is worshipping money, Illuminati and free masonry should tell Orthodox about Christ or Mary. This is designed to turn Ethiopians to Protestant which in the West their church is emptying out but they go to Ethiopia pushing their Jihova Witness, Protestant, Mormonism which are all money worshipping freemasonry and Illuminati another soft power of colonialism controlling the mind. Include Jesuits Catholic which is being exposed for its non Christianity.

Of course they send African American or Caribbean’s or even other Africans to persuade Ethiopians out of Orthodox.

[Misraq]

It is insane. The pente n!gga claimed true gospel following countries are prosperous like America. And when he was corned that America and the west are not gospel following anymore and are athiests, he back down. But clearly he tried to create a narrative that links poverty in Ethiopia to Orthodoxy.

Trust me the Pente cult system will be eradicated from Ethiopia when the time comes. And it is very easy to do so. Just stoping the fund that is coming from abroad and crack down on those who robe peoples livelihood through the judicial system will end Protestantism in Ethiopia.

[Axumezana]

The New Testament is the same for every Christian !

[Odie]

I really am not interested to get into the trap of religious altercation. But, some of the comments here are bit outlandish!
First Pente is very diverse name and there comes no money that rains or sent from foreign countries. Infact members have to pay tith to church and give donation to sustain their church. The Derge cadres thought pentes were a foreign agents and they ended up incarcerating innocent citizens even killing. That is what is going on in Eritrea. There are people in prison for over 30 years because of similar misconception. It is dangeourous to conceive pentes eat this, feed this, get foreign money etc. If you love your religion no one forces you to convert to another. Changing religion is a personal decision. No body should force no body.
Secondly bad apples are in all corners. In pente, orthodox, Islam and others.
Currently there is a problem because religion is deliberately politicized. The ethnic rulers are exploiting evangelical christianity to their advantage. Pastors and fanatics are exploiting their relation with government to secure land and money favor which is against the rubrics of evangelical christianity.
Regulation of religious fringe groups by church/or other religious authorities and perhaps by secular law for defemation, money +property mismanagement or outright deception is something that should be considered.

However hate for a particular religion from any party is not acceptable. Law abiding citizens should have the right to exercise their religion in “peaceful” way with out interfering in the rights of others. There is no reason to advocate to uproot pente because of some individuals/groups that probably don’t have deeper understanding of the bible.

The country has enough headache already and add religion to the complex equation, then the fire will keep burning even brighter than now. Orthodox and evangelicals have the same origin and name (christians) only differing in canons. Instead of uniting in common things and narrowing differences peacefully (if possible), fighting is not holly thing to consider. Personally I would not get into that. No body will be able to create a single country with single religion!!

[Misraq]

When one religion system eats, breaths and sleeps at the expense of daily false narratives and attacks on others, i would find it hard to accept that it is a religion. With that, i find it hard to accept protestantism as a religion in general. The name itself "protesting" suggests protesting on other belief systems and natural to its name, it is existing at the expense of daily attacks on other religions. No one disputes this fact. There is hardly ever a day passes protestant churches go without attacking Chatolicism or Orthodoxy. But they have no will, courage or interest to talk about Islam or Budhism (Two largest belief systems).

Would pente or protestantism halt its daily barrage of false narrative or dirt throwing on Orthodox and Chatolics? no. it won't because without that, there is no drama hence no existence at all. The others, such as Orthodox or Chatolics are happy with the way they are and focus on their own things, preaching, condacting masses and giving the needed services be it baptism, Sunday school or eucharist ...etc.

So, if there is a law enacted to stop one religion from verbal attacks or belittling, the harm is on Protestantism. Mind you, the Orthodox can easily pull out all the dirts within protestantism but that is not their cause. But Pentes focus on exploiting Orthodoxy will have a rebuttal and revenge when the time comes. With that, i do admire his exelency Issayas Afeworki for banning this cult system in his turf. We don't see societal abuse by fake pastors and fake prophets in Eritrea. But in Ethiopia, we are getting in the direction of Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania.

[Odie]

How many denominations of protestants are there?
So, it seems we are safe in saying there are at least nearly 200 major Protestant denominations or denominational categories in the United State.

Some of the protestant churches:
A majority of Protestants are members of a handful of Protestant denominational families:
Adventists, Anabaptists, Anglicans/Episcopalians, Baptists, Calvinist/Reformed, Lutherans, Methodists, Moravians, Pentecostals, Plymouth Brethren, Presbyterians, and Quakers.

Who are pentecostals:
Pentecostals are a diverse group within Protestant Christianity who emphasize the role and experience of the Holy Spirit. They believe in a direct, experiential faith, often marked by practices like speaking in tongues (glossolalia) and the manifestation of spiritual gifts. The term "Pentecostal" comes from the biblical event of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit descended upon the apostles.

How many denominations of pentecostal are there:
There are over 700 Pentecostal denominations and many independent churches, making Pentecostalism a highly decentralized movement. While there's no single central authority, many denominations are affiliated with the Pentecostal World Fellowship. The movement is globally diverse, with significant growth in the Global South and Third World countries

There is no law that says Ethiopia belongs to a particular religion. However any religion should respect the law of the land and respect the rights of others. Any person or body that believes a particular person or group has stepped on his/her right, that person can follow the rules of the country to bering the offending person to the law. Where most of us live, where the rights of animals are respected let alone humans, at least in principle, people even have a church to worship SATAN

[Selam/]

The guy is full of sh!t.

Elsewhere he makes a complete opposite argument. He was confronted by a white North American woman who takes care of people with mental illnesses. He claims that Africans are more happy than Americans (I.e, the folks she councils) despite their destitute living conditions. He said that’s because Africans are more connected to God than the Americans. I don’t like this attention seeker mfkr.

It is insane. The pente n!gga claimed true gospel following countries are prosperous like America. And when he was corned that America and the west are not gospel following anymore and are athiests, he back down. But clearly he tried to create a narrative that links poverty in Ethiopia to Orthodoxy.

Trust me the Pente cult system will be eradicated from Ethiopia when the time comes. And it is very easy to do so. Just stoping the fund that is coming from abroad and crack down on those who robe peoples livelihood through the judicial system will end Protestantism in Ethiopia.

[Odie]

By the way my comment is not based on the content of the video posted. It is a general one.

The video was not appealing to me.

[ethiopianunity]

It is insane. The pente n!gga claimed true gospel following countries are prosperous like America. And when he was corned that America and the west are not gospel following anymore and are athiests, he back down. But clearly he tried to create a narrative that links poverty in Ethiopia to Orthodoxy.

Trust me the Pente cult system will be eradicated from Ethiopia when the time comes. And it is very easy to do so. Just stoping the fund that is coming from abroad and crack down on those who robe peoples livelihood through the judicial system will end Protestantism in Ethiopia.

Misraq,

Very well said the LFs have convinced pp types blaming Orthodox for Ethiopias poverty, l don’t believe there was poverty upto the kingdom. Many thinks being out of Orthodox and embracing colonialism is the way to advance your nation. Their proof is you see even other countries have changed. Once again it is copy and paste. Many with low self esteem believes following the previous colonized nation is the way to go. These post colonial nations had Catholic imposed on them. Now when colonizers change shirt, Protestant defeating Catholic, now post colonial nations changed shirt too. This is why following unstable religion which is not even true God and Christ teaching, it is all about power and money. A slave mentality leadership must change too. I doubt it will be eradicated easily, no promises , while nothing is being done about any issues that affect the people and nation from the divided frailed society domestically and internationally that is eating each other instead in the true enemy

[ethiopianunity]

I really am not interested to get into the trap of religious altercation. But, some of the comments here are bit outlandish!
First Pente is very diverse name and there comes no money that rains or sent from foreign countries. Infact members have to pay tith to church and give donation to sustain their church. The Derge cadres thought pentes were a foreign agents and they ended up incarcerating innocent citizens even killing. That is what is going on in Eritrea. There are people in prison for over 30 years because of similar misconception. It is dangeourous to conceive pentes eat this, feed this, get foreign money etc. If you love your religion no one forces you to convert to another. Changing religion is a personal decision. No body should force no body.
Secondly bad apples are in all corners. In pente, orthodox, Islam and others.
Currently there is a problem because religion is deliberately politicized. The ethnic rulers are exploiting evangelical christianity to their advantage. Pastors and fanatics are exploiting their relation with government to secure land and money favor which is against the rubrics of evangelical christianity.
Regulation of religious fringe groups by church/or other religious authorities and perhaps by secular law for defemation, money +property mismanagement or outright deception is something that should be considered.

However hate for a particular religion from any party is not acceptable. Law abiding citizens should have the right to exercise their religion in “peaceful” way with out interfering in the rights of others. There is no reason to advocate to uproot pente because of some individuals/groups that probably don’t have deeper understanding of the bible.

The country has enough headache already and add religion to the complex equation, then the fire will keep burning even brighter than now. Orthodox and evangelicals have the same origin and name (christians) only differing in canons. Instead of uniting in common things and narrowing differences peacefully (if possible), fighting is not holly thing to consider. Personally I would not get into that. No body will be able to create a single country with single religion!!

Odie

I agree to what you said but tell me Protestant have been deliberately made to increase and take power in Ethiopia since Tplf and deliberately began nt made to overpower Orthodox that was endogenous. This is politicization . It is being prepared to create war with Orthodox as well. Proof enough there is foreign funded to convert Ethiopians. If followers are funding it, unlike the Orthodox, why are pastors targeting the poor for conversion? In Orthodox you see clear live donations taking place, but you don’t see in Protestant churchs clear enough there is foreign funding. Considering the Western influence in Ethiopia and Bush jr born again ,had world funded to spread Protestant throughout developing countries. Since Tplf rule, Protestants were hand picked to open businesses, work in natural resources etc so that money is into the hands of the Protestants, shunning Orthodox. They are also hand picked to be officials and take office and hardly you see any Orthodox in govt or private office , huge discrimination against the Orthodox has been taking place, the faith that united population, against colonialism. What you are equalizing is foreign faith not indigenous to the nation to take over that makes open for take over Ethiopia.

[Odie]

I really am not interested to get into the trap of religious altercation. But, some of the comments here are bit outlandish!
First Pente is very diverse name and there comes no money that rains or sent from foreign countries. Infact members have to pay tith to church and give donation to sustain their church. The Derge cadres thought pentes were a foreign agents and they ended up incarcerating innocent citizens even killing. That is what is going on in Eritrea. There are people in prison for over 30 years because of similar misconception. It is dangeourous to conceive pentes eat this, feed this, get foreign money etc. If you love your religion no one forces you to convert to another. Changing religion is a personal decision. No body should force no body.
Secondly bad apples are in all corners. In pente, orthodox, Islam and others.
Currently there is a problem because religion is deliberately politicized. The ethnic rulers are exploiting evangelical christianity to their advantage. Pastors and fanatics are exploiting their relation with government to secure land and money favor which is against the rubrics of evangelical christianity.
Regulation of religious fringe groups by church/or other religious authorities and perhaps by secular law for defemation, money +property mismanagement or outright deception is something that should be considered.

However hate for a particular religion from any party is not acceptable. Law abiding citizens should have the right to exercise their religion in “peaceful” way with out interfering in the rights of others. There is no reason to advocate to uproot pente because of some individuals/groups that probably don’t have deeper understanding of the bible.

The country has enough headache already and add religion to the complex equation, then the fire will keep burning even brighter than now. Orthodox and evangelicals have the same origin and name (christians) only differing in canons. Instead of uniting in common things and narrowing differences peacefully (if possible), fighting is not holly thing to consider. Personally I would not get into that. No body will be able to create a single country with single religion!!

Odie

I agree to what you said but tell me Protestant have been deliberately made to increase and take power in Ethiopia since Tplf and deliberately began nt made to overpower Orthodox that was endogenous. This is politicization . It is being prepared to create war with Orthodox as well. Proof enough there is foreign funded to convert Ethiopians. If followers are funding it, unlike the Orthodox, why are pastors targeting the poor for conversion? In Orthodox you see clear live donations taking place, but you don’t see in Protestant churchs clear enough there is foreign funding. Considering the Western influence in Ethiopia and Bush jr born again ,had world funded to spread Protestant throughout developing countries. Since Tplf rule, Protestants were hand picked to open businesses, work in natural resources etc so that money is into the hands of the Protestants, shunning Orthodox. They are also hand picked to be officials and take office and hardly you see any Orthodox in govt or private office , huge discrimination against the Orthodox has been taking place, the faith that united population, against colonialism. What you are equalizing is foreign faith not indigenous to the nation to take over that makes open for take over Ethiopia.

The frank answer is 'no" and most likely "yes". What does that mean? TPLF to some extend favored protestants because TPLF had a logic that said, whoever did not oppose me is not my enemy and can work with that. So, protestants did not oppose TPLF, and TPLF thought they are not thieves and reliable, trustworthy to be employed for office and it followed that policy. However, as protestants are humans, TPLF expectation was not always true. During Derg era, protestants were prosecuted hence TPLF gave more freedom (partly to appease the west by showing there is religious right/democracy in Ethiopia bla bla..). I don't believe, TPLF deliberately promoted Protestantism as TPLF authorities mostly were orthodox believers themselves. But because of their hate to Amhara, which was wrongly associated with EOC, there may be a bit of truth in that. Remember also there is a thinking among ethnonationalists that Ethiopia froze in time and space because of EOC traditions and Amhara, which clearly is leading to abuse and ethnic cleansing or genocide [All ethnonationalists, especially Tigre and Oromo blaming Amhara for all their failures. By same token, the shabiyans believed their trouble was Amhara/Ethiopia and EOC related and fought over and over but when they got so called freedom, they froze in time and space by themselves instead of becoming Singapore-I hope they now understand the problem is within themselves]. With regard to OPP, well it is different. Firstly, the Oromuma ethno-fascists has a so-called renaissance agenda which is tearing Ethiopia apart and tailoring it to fit Oromuma and Tigre ethnonationalist. For the so-called renaissance, who did they want to tear? Simple. Addis Ababa, in the name of corridor development, tearing the culture (Doro Wot also a victim in this ], EOC (the big pillar of the country) and Amhara. You don't have to be a witch to figure out this. They have single handedly changed all signs of the orignal Ethiopia. Attack on the flag, attack on the lion figure as statue, on Ethiopian airlines log, all logos of ministerial offices in the country and many other things have been deliberately torn. So, no question Ethiopian Orthodox has suffered gravely in the past over 30 years. Wherever ethnonationalists attacked, EOC was attacked. Protestantism was abused in the sense, it appeared as a state religion for the antifascists because the PM, his wife and many other office holders were presumably from protestant. Their loyalty was abused by both Zenawi and current PM. Of course, the system provided them land for church and even sometimes money which were unthinkable in past Ethiopia. The problem is that will not go well with the protestant churches because that is buying them an enemy as a religion to the hated system and perception that they are receiving Favour. As a protestant myself, the protestant churches should show restraint, go back to their evangelical work than mix up in politics as that is not the goal of the great commission. The great commission is to spread gospel to all corners of the world, not to benefit from government or strike a deal with politicians. Remember prosperity gospel is not the mainstream evangelical protestant doctrine. It is a wrong doctrine. Propsperity Party emanates from the same prosperity gospel that makes it a wrong political ideology.

[Misraq]

Brother Odie, sometimes you will need to be honest to facts that are on our fingertips. Protestant denominations are well over 10,000 each with their own theological differences

Estimating the exact number of Protestant denominations worldwide is a complex task and figures vary depending on the criteria used for classification. However, here's a breakdown of what sources indicate:

Tens of thousands: Many sources agree that there are likely tens of thousands of distinct Protestant denominations across the globe.

• Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary: The Center for Global Christianity at this seminary estimates there are currently around 47,000 denominations worldwide and predicts this number will continue to grow. This count uses a broad methodology.

• World Christian Encyclopedia: This encyclopedia, a key source for such statistics, previously estimated a lower number for Protestant denominations specifically (around 9,000 in one older analysis) while noting a much larger number for "world Christianity" which includes other Christian traditions and independent churches. Some analyses suggest the higher figures often cited include non-denominational churches and other independent Christian groups, not strictly traditional denominations.

Major Denominational Families: Despite the large number, most Protestants belong to a few major denominational families. These often include:

• Baptists
  Methodists
  Lutherans
  Calvinist/Reformed (including Presbyterian and Congregationalist)
  Anglican/Episcopalian
  Pentecostals
  Adventists
  Anabaptists (including Mennonites and Amish)
  Quakers (Friends)  

 
It's important to understand that the high number of denominations arises from various factors, including theological differences, cultural contexts, geographical separation, and historical splits. Additionally, the rise of independent and non-denominational churches in recent times further contributes to the complexity of counting.

Therefore, while a precise number is elusive and depends on the definition used, it's safe to say there are thousands, likely tens of thousands, of Protestant denominations worldwide, with a significant portion of Protestants belonging to the major denominational families listed above.

[Odie]

Brother Odie, sometimes you will need to be honest to facts that are on our fingertips. Protestant denominations are well over 10,000 each with their own theological differences

Estimating the exact number of Protestant denominations worldwide is a complex task and figures vary depending on the criteria used for classification. However, here's a breakdown of what sources indicate:

Tens of thousands: Many sources agree that there are likely tens of thousands of distinct Protestant denominations across the globe.

• Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary: The Center for Global Christianity at this seminary estimates there are currently around 47,000 denominations worldwide and predicts this number will continue to grow. This count uses a broad methodology.

• World Christian Encyclopedia: This encyclopedia, a key source for such statistics, previously estimated a lower number for Protestant denominations specifically (around 9,000 in one older analysis) while noting a much larger number for "world Christianity" which includes other Christian traditions and independent churches. Some analyses suggest the higher figures often cited include non-denominational churches and other independent Christian groups, not strictly traditional denominations.

Major Denominational Families: Despite the large number, most Protestants belong to a few major denominational families. These often include:

• Baptists
  Methodists
  Lutherans
  Calvinist/Reformed (including Presbyterian and Congregationalist)
  Anglican/Episcopalian
  Pentecostals
  Adventists
  Anabaptists (including Mennonites and Amish)
  Quakers (Friends)  

 
It's important to understand that the high number of denominations arises from various factors, including theological differences, cultural contexts, geographical separation, and historical splits. Additionally, the rise of independent and non-denominational churches in recent times further contributes to the complexity of counting.

Therefore, while a precise number is elusive and depends on the definition used, it's safe to say there are thousands, likely tens of thousands, of Protestant denominations worldwide, with a significant portion of Protestants belonging to the major denominational families listed above.

Mine was a result from quick google search. The problem is our people need to be well informed both protestants and orthodox to tolerate better. I am not going to focus much on this except revealing how politicians abuse our belief system for their evil agenda. People have existed together for millennia with different religion, our people need tolerance and resist divisions and infighting instead focus on the current major problem we have, the elephant int he house.

[Selam/]

If what Mr David says doesn’t bother you, then you’re numb.

Why would he say that Ethiopian orthodox women practice prostitution right after they get back from worshiping?
በጎበዞች ዘመን ይኸንን ወለንጪቲ ተናግሮ ቢሆን ኖሮ፣ ልጆቹ ያለ አባት ይቀሩ ነበር። ምን ይደረግ ሽንታም የበዛበት ዘመን ነው አሁን።

[Odie]

If what Mr David says doesn’t bother you, then you’re numb.

Why would he say that Ethiopian orthodox women practice prostitution right after they get back from worshiping?
በጎበዞች ዘመን ይኸንን ወለንጪቲ ተናግሮ ቢሆን ኖሮ፣ ልጆቹ ያለ አባት ይቀሩ ነበር። ምን ይደረግ ሽንታም የበዛበት ዘመን ነው አሁን።

As I said I did not listen the tape and don’t want to. Whoever has said that in his sake or protestant name that is wrong and he should have been held accountable for that, specially if that is the foreigner who said it. Only idiots say that kind of thing. There may as well be weak protestants or secular protestants who may go church but comit adultury. Today many mainline non evangelical protestants condone LGBTQ.
Any one who is a good christian capitalizes on own weakness or sin than others. Biblically whoever said that is wrong. I think that is a wrong statement that should be condemned in strongest terms and I hope that person does not represent organized church. If the person speaking is currently politically advantaged person, it may be a deliberate attack.

[Selam/]

Well he kind of also said “Peekaboo! A born-again is the new prime minister, so what you gonna do?”

If what Mr David says doesn’t bother you, then you’re numb.

Why would he say that Ethiopian orthodox women practice prostitution right after they get back from worshiping?
በጎበዞች ዘመን ይኸንን ወለንጪቲ ተናግሮ ቢሆን ኖሮ፣ ልጆቹ ያለ አባት ይቀሩ ነበር። ምን ይደረግ ሽንታም የበዛበት ዘመን ነው አሁን።

As I said I did not listen the tape and don’t want to. Whoever has said that in his sake or protestant name that is wrong and he should have been held accountable for that, specially if that is the foreigner who said it. Only idiots say that kind of thing. There may as well be weak protestants or secular protestants who may go church but comit adultury. Today many mainline non evangelical protestants condone LGBTQ.
Any one who is a good christian capitalizes on own weakness or sin than others. Biblically whoever said that is wrong. I think that is a wrong statement that should be condemned in strongest terms and I hope that person does not represent organized church. If the person speaking is currently politically advantaged person, it may be a deliberate attack.

[Misraq]

If what Mr David says doesn’t bother you, then you’re numb.

Why would he say that Ethiopian orthodox women practice prostitution right after they get back from worshiping?
በጎበዞች ዘመን ይኸንን ወለንጪቲ ተናግሮ ቢሆን ኖሮ፣ ልጆቹ ያለ አባት ይቀሩ ነበር። ምን ይደረግ ሽንታም የበዛበት ዘመን ነው አሁን።

The n!gga is canadian and i have a strong feeling that he got all the information he spits from Ethiopian pente's.

[Selam/]

Correct, his wife is an Ethiopian Pente!

If what Mr David says doesn’t bother you, then you’re numb.

Why would he say that Ethiopian orthodox women practice prostitution right after they get back from worshiping?
በጎበዞች ዘመን ይኸንን ወለንጪቲ ተናግሮ ቢሆን ኖሮ፣ ልጆቹ ያለ አባት ይቀሩ ነበር። ምን ይደረግ ሽንታም የበዛበት ዘመን ነው አሁን።

The n!gga is canadian and i have a strong feeling that he got all the information he spits from Ethiopian pente's.

[Misraq]

Correct, his wife is an Ethiopian Pente!

That makes sense. The guy dresses in Habesha Tilf and i was wondering on how he got it. For his wife to summarily call every one a prostitute is unchristian