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[Tiago]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

[Odie]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

I am with you on this!
I was feeling same!
ፌሽታ ብቻ ነው የሚወዱት
Specially now with many of the working for…

I could be wrong; I wish I were

[Dama]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

This happens in societies and individuals. There is a phrase for it, "more Catholic than the Pope". They were the darlings of TPLF against the Shewa aristocracy.

If you back to their orgins, of Begemdir, now renamed by TPLF simply as Gonderes, they start their presence in Abyssinian history during the reign of King Ezana in the 4th century A.D. He brought in 40,000 Bejas as also spelt as Bega as POWs after conquering the Kingdom of Kush and settled them in that region which he called Begamidr, later spelled as Begemdir. Gonderes are Bejas in orogin just the same as those in neighnoring Gederif and Ketsela of Sudan.

[Odie]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

This happens in societies and individuals. There is a phrase for it, "more Catholic than the Pope". They were the darlings of TPLF against the Shewa aristocracy.

If you back to their orgins, of Begemdir, now renamed by TPLF simply as Gonderes, they start their presence in Abyssinian history during the reign of King Ezana in the 4th century A.D. He brought in 40,000 Bejas as also spelt as Bega as POWs after conquering the Kingdom of Kush and settled them in that region which he called Begamidr, later spelled as Begemdir. Gonderes are Bejas in orogin just the same as those in neighnoring Gederif and Ketsela of Sudan.

It is not TPLF who changed Begemidir (sounds like sheepish land ዝም ብሎ የሚገዛ or በጎ ምድር ) to Gonder. The usual u with your wrongs. That goes back to Mengistu.

Any Gondere here here to rself redeem? Eritreans are suspected to have Gondere root?! what is ደምቢያ
They are in TPLF/Oromuma too coming full circle

Trying to annoy them!!

[Dama]

Moron monok Odd, your problem is you do not read. Worse, you throw out words and statements of ignorance that just make you a laughable idiot.
If you read, you will be factual, less presumptive.
History of Begamidr or Bejamidr starts when Ezana settled 40,000 POWs after conquering the Kingdom of Kush.
Read! You will discover facts.

[Odie]

Moron monok Odd, your problem is you do not read. Worse, you throw out words and statements of ignorance that just make you a laughable idiot.
If you read, you will be factual, less presumptive.
History of Begamidr or Bejamidr starts when Ezana settled 40,000 POWs after conquering the Kingdom of Kush.
Read! You will discover facts.

Mujahadins are not expected to know history, but beat their housewives (usually they tend to have 10/man)

[Misraq]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

This thread comes as a result of the new internal feud in Eskinders camp. I am not Gondere, but best you folks address your internal issues and be genuine for the Fano struggle. Yesterday, i posted a video that shows the gondar elements of APFO complaining that G7 and Balderas are taking over Eskinders organizatin (By the way all Fanos were saying this for a while now). Now you coming out to attack Gonderes in general as a t!t for tat.

Are you Balderas/G7 wing of Eskinder's organization? definitely so and also more probably Debub nations and nationalities hybrid mixture like Tilahun (Union)

[Dama]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

This thread comes as a result of the new internal feud in Eskinders camp. I am not Gondere, but best you folks address your internal issues and be genuine for the Fano struggle. Yesterday, i posted a video that shows the gondar elements of APFO complaining that G7 and Balderas are taking over Eskinders organizatin (By the way all Fanos were saying this for a while now). Now you coming out to attack Gonderes in general as a t!t for tat.

Are you Balderas/G7 wing of Eskinder's organization? definitely so and also more probably Debub nations and nationalities hybrid mixture like Tilahun (Union)

You madd it all clear youre one of the croppled legs of TPLF. So much indifference to the genocides and massacres of Amara. Hold your laughter! They will overcome their differences. This difference in Fano politics is not caused by the people of South Ethiopia
Stop it. Stop witchunting South Ethiopians. Leave innocents alone. They have nothing to do with the loses of your arms and legs.
TPLF is the cause. Go after them.
Stop the bigotry! Thats all I ask. How difficult is that?

[Misraq]

Dama wahabist b!atch, what are you talking about. As to Debub, create a new thread and invite me, Tilahun debubew (union) and Abere there.

[Abere]

የአብይ አህመድ ኦሮሙማ አማችቻ ሁኔታ ይሆን፡ አማችቻ ደግሞ የ21ኛ ክፍለ ዘመን ጉድፈቻ ወይም ሞጋሳ ነው። ጎደሬው ዘፋኝ

ጠየም ዘለግ ያለች- የወለዱ እንደሆን፤
ታማጣለች አማች- በረት መዝጊያ የሚሆን። ብሎ ነበር

ምን ዋጋ አለው - ሰው አራጅ፤ ዘቅዝቆ ሰቃይ፤ ሬሳ በአህያ የሚያስጭን ጭራቅ ኦሮሙማ ሆነ።

Misraq (ህወሓት) ደግሞ እረ ዘራፌዋ አገኜሁ ተሻገር ብላ ቡፍቡፍ እያለች ነው። አገኜሁ ተሻገር ሽጉጤን ጠጥቼ እሞታለሁ እንዳለው ምስራቅ እንድሁ ፋኖ ፋኖ ለመሽተት ትፈልጋለች - የውሸት ፋኖ።

[Dama]

Oh my God! Ok, you are Agew.
Will you stop now?

[Odie]

Gonderes think they are more Amhara than others, but are they really??
the original shifta .

This thread comes as a result of the new internal feud in Eskinders camp. I am not Gondere, but best you folks address your internal issues and be genuine for the Fano struggle. Yesterday, i posted a video that shows the gondar elements of APFO complaining that G7 and Balderas are taking over Eskinders organizatin (By the way all Fanos were saying this for a while now). Now you coming out to attack Gonderes in general as a t!t for tat.

Are you Balderas/G7 wing of Eskinder's organization? definitely so and also more probably Debub nations and nationalities hybrid mixture like Tilahun (Union)

Misraq,
I saw that post a while ago. I did not even listen to it. I always had some unhappiness associated with Some Gonderes surrounding the ethnic thugs in Addis. There are all ethnics doing the same and can not generalize it the Gonderes alone to be fair! When Tiago posted it I just aired that feeling.
I wish all amhara associated people surrounding the Oromuma ethnofascists deserted and we saw the colenel left nude alone. If all other ethnics left him slowly like onion skin, he would have succumbed without a bullet firing. But it is money and belly. Benefiters will always support anything even the devil.
I will close it here and not really interested to saw divisions further.
I am not a fan of Eskinder as you know!

Debub if full of retards even worse than Horsee and Domaw only getting proud with the manhood of their handlers!

[Abere]

No, Misraq is half Tigre and half Tigrawi.She introduced herself in this forum years ago- she is Eritrean by under valuing here Tigre. Note: Tigre and Tigrawi are different tribes. Only, Halafimengedi is Agew. But, Union calls her Agew.

She is now a popped up "Fano" which is lead by TPLF.

She is working hard 24/7 to fight against the legitimate Fano lead by Head Fano Eskindir Nega. Her "fano" has no leader and organization in Amhara region - but its leader is TPLF and head quarter is Mekelle/Dedebit, for sure.

Oh my God! Ok, you are Agew.
Will you stop now?

[Misraq]

Brother Odie,

You are right. Corrupt are from everywhere and all working with OPDO for few crumbs and we can name them all. It is just that Gonder is considered more patriotic and seeing these guys working with Abiy put them in a higher bad spotlight. We have unconscious expectation from each ethnicities which is not equal. People expect more from Gonderes.

My only reservation on Gondere Amharas is that sometimes they see being Gondere is more prominent for them than being Amhara. That has become a challenge for the struggle. Gonder Amharas are also victims of so many saboteurs. For instance there is a Qmant group in Gonder who are pushing Gonder more of as an identity than locality to thwart Amhara nationalism. There is also a sizable hybrid Gondere who is mixed with Tigrayans and Eritreans. That is why now Gondar is divided and could not lead the way for the Fano struggle.

[Abere]

እፉኝት ወያኔ ወሻዕብያ ምስራቅ የጎንደር ታሪክ ፈጥራ ለመጻፍ ትሞክራለች። ይህ ማለት ጎንደር ( በጌ ምድር) ከሸዋ (ጸዋኣ /ጨዋ) ወይም ከቤተ-አምሀራ (የአማራ መነሻ ቋት /ወሎ) እንድሁም ከጎዣም (ግዮን) የተለየ ነው በማለት ኢ-ተፈጥሮአዊ ምክንያት በመደርደር አማራን ለወያኔ ለመከፋፈል መጣሯ ነው። የ በጌ ምድር አሁናዊ ሁኔታ ዋና ችግር የጎንደር የአማራነት ስብዕና ሳይሆን የአማችነት ጣጣ ያመጣው ነው። አማችነት የኢትዮጵያዊያን መሪዎች ወንዝ መሻገሪያ ዘደ ተደርጎ ለብዙ ጊዜ ተወስዶል። ለምሳሌ ምኒልክ ሸዋ ረጋን ለንጉስ ሚካኤል፤ ሌላዋን ለዐጼ ዮሀንስ ልጅ፤ እያሱ ሚካዔልም እንድሁ ከየጎሳው ይወልድ ነበር - ለመተሳሰር። የሚገርመው ግን ከታሪክ እንዳየነው የሴት ወግን ሲጠቃ ነው። ምሳሌ፤ ቴዎድሮስ የአራስ አሊን ልጅ አግብቶ በብርቱ ያሰቃይ የነበረው የቤተ-አማራ/ወሎ ህዝብ ነበር፤ በመቀጠልም ሸዋ (ጨዋ)፤ አጼ ሃይለስላሴ የቤተ-አማራዋን እቴጌ መነን አግብቶ ከክፋለተ ሀገራቱ በተለየ ወሎን ሲያሰቃይ ነበር - በመጨረሻ ደርግ ሽንት ቤት ጣላቸው። መንግስቱ ሃ/ማርያም የጎዣም ሴት አግብቶ በስውር የአማራን ህዝብ ሲፈጅ፤ቤት ሲቀማ፤ እርስት ሲበጣጣስ የነበረ ሰው ነበር። አሁንም ኦሮሙማ አብይ አህመድ የ በጌ ምድር ሴት አግብቶ በጌ ምድርን እያታለለው ይገኛል።

This is the reality, have not heard of anyone from Gondar (Bege Midir) felt special as their life style is the same as the rest of Amhara provinces and in fact other Ethiopians.

[Dama]

No, Misraq is half Tigre and half Tigrawi.She introduced herself in this forum years ago- she is Eritrean by under valuing here Tigre. Note: Tigre and Tigrawi are different tribes. Only, Halafimengedi is Agew. But, Union calls her Agew.

She is now a popped up "Fano" which is lead by TPLF.

She is working hard 24/7 to fight against the legitimate Fano lead by Head Fano Eskindir Nega. Her "fano" has no leader and organization in Amhara region - but its leader is TPLF and head quarter is Mekelle/Dedebit, for sure.

Oh my God! Ok, you are Agew.
Will you stop now?

This makes it all clear Misraq's questionable behavior. He has in him the TPLF syndrome despite walking without legs. Divisive, in short.

[Odie]

Brother Odie,

You are right. Corrupt are from everywhere and all working with OPDO for few crumbs and we can name them all. It is just that Gonder is considered more patriotic and seeing these guys working with Abiy put them in a higher bad spotlight. We have unconscious expectation from each ethnicities which is not equal. People expect more from Gonderes.

My only reservation on Gondere Amharas is that sometimes they see being Gondere is more prominent for them than being Amhara. That has become a challenge for the struggle. Gonder Amharas are also victims of so many saboteurs. For instance there is a Qmant group in Gonder who are pushing Gonder more of as an identity than locality to thwart Amhara nationalism. There is also a sizable hybrid Gondere who is mixed with Tigrayans and Eritreans. That is why now Gondar is divided and could not lead the way for the Fano struggle.

Agreed misraq!

I understand about the hybrids or let me call them the weeds or pretenders. The coming days in the future will separate the chaff and the grain.
Gurage is suffering from imposters of galla and silte hybrid in this forum too; one is none other than horsee and the other is mujhidin Doma you already know:lol:

[Misraq]

We are on the same page. Trust me i have nothing against hybrids but they more or less tend to be sell outs and very easy to compromise I can see Horsee and Wuhabi Dama having a twin or triplet interest which harms the Gurage aspiration. Look at Horsee. He used to be an advocate of the Gurage cause and many of us bought his narrative for the Gurage statehood. I myself have been a voice for it on twitter. He now turned around and introducing to us Gurage irrecha

the other guy Dama is easily bought by Galla Ahmedin Jebel on a wahabist agenda and constantly attacks Amhara (a people that don't share any form of land or resources currently). So he is not for Gurage cause. He is more of a soldier of Galla wahabist wing.

[Odie]

We are on the same page. Trust me i have nothing against hybrids but they more or less tend to be sell outs and very easy to compromise I can see Horsee and Wuhabi Dama having a twin or triplet interest which harms the Gurage aspiration. Look at Horsee. He used to be an advocate of the Gurage cause and many of us bought his narrative for the Gurage statehood. I myself have been a voice for it on twitter. He now turned around and introducing to us Gurage irrecha

the other guy Dama is easily bought by Galla Ahmedin Jebel on a wahabist agenda and constantly attacks Amhara (a people that don't share any form of land or resources currently). So he is not for Gurage cause. He is more of a soldier of Galla wahabist wing.

[Abere]

Glad you get some clarification. But you have a great observation regarding the gender of Misraq. Her name is a feminine one, we all call her using the pronoun "She". You however identified as "He". This made me re-think this could be another camouflage as her ethnic background. Looking at her licentious comments (inappropriate se.xual acts) it is impossible for a women to write things some vulgar boys brag about their acts against women. She talks like a man - but she identify name wise as women, like she actually is Tigre + Tigrawi.

I would like to add two more examples that those kings who married someone out of their tribe caused a lot of havoc.

--- Negus Michael, after harassed by king Yohannes ( where many forcefully were converted; and Raya people refused; of course alleged to have been killed Wolo at battle of Metema), his daughter Tewabech Mikael, married Ras Seyoum Mengesha of Tigray.

---- king Yohannes married Tibebe Selassie, who was the sister of Tekle Haymanot of Gojjam, simply for political allaince. However, next to Wolo the most looted and massacred was Gojam by Yohannes.

No, Misraq is half Tigre and half Tigrawi.She introduced herself in this forum years ago- she is Eritrean by under valuing here Tigre. Note: Tigre and Tigrawi are different tribes. Only, Halafimengedi is Agew. But, Union calls her Agew.

She is now a popped up "Fano" which is lead by TPLF.

She is working hard 24/7 to fight against the legitimate Fano lead by Head Fano Eskindir Nega. Her "fano" has no leader and organization in Amhara region - but its leader is TPLF and head quarter is Mekelle/Dedebit, for sure.

Oh my God! Ok, you are Agew.
Will you stop now?

This makes it all clear Misraq's questionable behavior. He has in him the TPLF syndrome despite walking without legs. Divisive, in short.