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Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
Philosophical rudimentary terrorist preaching based on vengeance ? These false terroristic teachings can not even pass basic test on rationality. I am talking about so called redemptive creator. I have no problems with ten commandments in the Christian theology. But, the threat of eternal hell fire can never be the conception of a loving God. I am still a believer. Rational believer that is. Rational thought is what guides my life.
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Re: Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
As a Muslim I believe or we believe God is more than fair and kind. He forgives much and his punishment is just.
Think about it. He gives the warnings time and time again, and the glad tidings of what occurs if you are righteous...so when his creation transgresses, they will inevitably experience the consequences of that. When they are obedient, they will experience the results of that as well.
Hell is for those who choose to consistently disobey and transgress.
Another perspective: in this world, if a subject or citizen rebels against the ruler, the king, etc, we all expect and understand that there will be repercussions.
God being the ultimate ruler and King, is even more like that, except he forgives much and is always fair.
So, when his creations rebel against him, his punishment is thus justified.
Think about it. He gives the warnings time and time again, and the glad tidings of what occurs if you are righteous...so when his creation transgresses, they will inevitably experience the consequences of that. When they are obedient, they will experience the results of that as well.
Hell is for those who choose to consistently disobey and transgress.
Another perspective: in this world, if a subject or citizen rebels against the ruler, the king, etc, we all expect and understand that there will be repercussions.
God being the ultimate ruler and King, is even more like that, except he forgives much and is always fair.
So, when his creations rebel against him, his punishment is thus justified.
Re: Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
Who said the conception of eternal hell fire is our own ancient?Dark Energy wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 10:36Philosophical rudimentary terrorist preaching based on vengeance ? These false terroristic teachings can not even pass basic test on rationality. I am talking about so called redemptive creator. I have no problems with ten commandments in the Christian theology. But, the threat of eternal hell fire can never be the conception of a loving God. I am still a believer. Rational believer that is. Rational thought is what guides my life.
Does your rational thought inform you the perceptible difference between celebrating along with its maintenance versus worshipping?
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Re: Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
Guys,
Use your brain. You hare being manipulated by ancient humanoids. It is not about revenge. No matter how you look at it, the threat of eternal hell fire is the ultimate criminality no matter what the transgressions were. That would make the creator the ultimate criminal. The punishment will never fit the crime.It would make God, the ultimate evil no matter . I believe the creator is benevolent and just. Hell fire is just a terroristic concept created by terrorist ancient social groups. It is mind boggling to say the least.

Use your brain. You hare being manipulated by ancient humanoids. It is not about revenge. No matter how you look at it, the threat of eternal hell fire is the ultimate criminality no matter what the transgressions were. That would make the creator the ultimate criminal. The punishment will never fit the crime.It would make God, the ultimate evil no matter . I believe the creator is benevolent and just. Hell fire is just a terroristic concept created by terrorist ancient social groups. It is mind boggling to say the least.



Re: Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
Here a little bit of Christian view. Bible/Christian God, now in New Testament does not condone vengeance. Old Testament is bit different as the rules were mostly given to Israelites to guide them how to live among others. The New Testament has the famous quote of Jesus. If someone hist your chick on the right, give him your left too. Don't revenge. This epoch is called the epoch of grace. All have sinned but saved by grace of God through the death of Jesus. So, as far as some one believes in Jesus and lives the righteous or biblical/New Testament way, there is no worry about hell.Dark Energy wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 10:36Philosophical rudimentary terrorist preaching based on vengeance ? These false terroristic teachings can not even pass basic test on rationality. I am talking about so called redemptive creator. I have no problems with ten commandments in the Christian theology. But, the threat of eternal hell fire can never be the conception of a loving God. I am still a believer. Rational believer that is. Rational thought is what guides my life.
Is there hell/fire after death? Yes, the bible says so. If there is bad and good, evil and righteous or dichotomous existence of things in life, why not hell exist? If Jesus could live as human and die for others, why does not hell exist? The rational thinking is a human judgment or human feeling about the way we run our daily affairs and how we judge. There is nothing rational thinking in spiritual world. Nothing called philosophy either. That is human concocted world view and synthesis of ideas. In the spirit world it is righteousness or unrighteousness that exists.
Re: Are we brainwashed by our own ancient
Dark E,
So what is the justified punishment for butchers like Abiy Ahmed, Adolf Hitler, Edi Amin, Mao Zerhung ...etc who made millions suffer and die an agonizing death?
So what is the justified punishment for butchers like Abiy Ahmed, Adolf Hitler, Edi Amin, Mao Zerhung ...etc who made millions suffer and die an agonizing death?