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[Dama]

They were captured by Menelick's neftenyas while defending the independence of Gurage from being annexed to Shewa to make it a chisanya or non-land owning peasant, at young ages. Between 1875 and 1878. Dej.Balcha Sef suffered unimaginable cruelty to ever be meted out on a POW. His genital was amputated by the inhumane Amaras.

Both were brought to Ankober where Menelick waged war on the nations of southwest Ethiopia. Offered military training and excelled at chivalry and leadership. Participated in and lead many of Menelick's bloody conquests to expand the territorial possessions of his Shewa Kingdom.

No records show that they fought Gurage with Menelick. But, they knew Menelick was conducting wars against Gurage until 1889. Also, there isn't a rumor that they advised, counseled or pleaded with Menelick to stop the slaughters against Gurage in 11 war campaigns.

Our boys we asked to defend Gurage but captured. One bodily harmed, mutilated, the other beaten to pulp. Now, in the same hands, the likes of neftenyas that captured them, worse still right in the court of their boss Menelick some huts away. They see some of the neftenyas going back to Gurage every year to still harm their nation they left home to defend it. They did not stop them. They did not even try.

What's Gurage verdict:
Enemies or Heroes?

[Odie]

They were captured by Menelick's neftenyas while defending the independence of Gurage from being annexed to Shewa to make it a chisanya or non-land owning peasant, at young ages. Between 1875 and 1878. Dej.Balcha Sef suffered unimaginable cruelty to ever be meted out on a POW. His genital was amputated by the inhumane Amaras.

Both were brought to Ankober where Menelick waged war on the nations of southwest Ethiopia. Offered military training and excelled at chivalry and leadership. Participated in and lead many of Menelick's bloody conquests to expand the territorial possessions of his Shewa Kingdom.

No records show that they fought Gurage with Menelick. But, they knew Menelick was conducting wars against Gurage until 1889. Also, there isn't a rumor that they advised, counseled or pleaded with Menelick to stop the slaughters against Gurage in 11 war campaigns.

Our boys we asked to defend Gurage but captured. One bodily harmed, mutilated, the other beaten to pulp. Now, in the same hands, the likes of neftenyas that captured them, worse still right in the court of their boss Menelick some huts away. They see some of the neftenyas going back to Gurage every year to still harm their nation they left home to defend it. They did not stop them. They did not even try.

What's Gurage verdict:
Enemies or Heroes?

I hail from deep west gurage. That is one galla thinking.
1. Balcha safo had his manhood removed by galla Gobena (has a merit in nation building). Gallas claim Balcha safo too. I would not entangle myself in this 100 year old history like gallas do

2. You are Tribalist like Tigre and galla. I suspect you come from their brainwashed and destroyed education system.

3. You have another motive. It was hassan Ingamo who brutally islamized and rulled hadya and Gurage at the time where he showed resistance to Menelik to succumb eventually. You are his supporter who probably was a handy/silte mix than gurage. You have a feeling Menelik made gurage christian which is wrong because Gurage history dates back even before 14-15th century. Infact the oldest religion besides paganism in the region is christianity not even islam.
4. It does not matter if some wrongs were done when a nation was built. Look the bigger picture. Act locally think nationally and globally. You think Menelik did wrong but TPLF and OPP is doing worse in modern era. How many times we should say this? Rome, Europe, Russia…no country in the world got here without war, submission and reconstruction. If you are a real gurage, stop crying and see if there is something you could do to your community in constructive politics culture and development.

[Dama]

Odie the Chimp, two important factors handicap you:
1. You do not read and do not rely on history but perverse media propganda
2. lack of a sense of right and wrong, of a sense of justice, of a sense of moral values that should never be violated. Christianity teaches you to treat orhers you would want to be treated, that is never to violate human dignity.

History is never old. Look at Amhars. Look at Tigreys. They review their ancestors way back to Yekuno Amlak.
Honor or dishonor those who benefiited and those who did not.
Tigrey go back to the 1st century Ezana as their important man of their history.

History is never put away to a dust bin to rot away like garbage. History is always reviewed and updated with new evidence, with new skills and methods of analysis. History is a living Science.

I am just pointing out your shortcomings. I have no intention to to force or persuade you to work for Gurage humanity as well as you work for the humanity of Amara.

[Odie]

No, you are very skewed and tribalist. With your hate, the gallas will find you a job like Horus bs you are their sympathizer not really a Gurage right advocate.
Untill you correct your view on christian’s, Menelik, the country and Amhara, no good conversation can be made with you. አምሃራ is fighting for its right as one of the biggest ethnics in Ethiopia. No body is going to sympathize with you what happened to your questionable ancestors in 19th century. Everybody moved on. Galla did the worst on Gurage directly and indirectly. And doing it now. But your nightmare is still Menelik. That is ignorance and hate!! Think and live in today.

[Dama]

No, you are very skewed and tribalist. With your hate, the gallas will find you a job like Horus bs you are their sympathizer not really a Gurage right advocate.
Untill you correct your view on christian’s, Menelik, the country and Amhara, no good conversation can be made with you. አምሃራ is fighting for its right as one of the biggest ethnics in Ethiopia. No body is going to sympathize with you what happened to your questionable ancestors in 19th century. Everybody moved on. Galla did the worst on Gurage directly and indirectly. And doing it now. But your nightmare is still Menelik. That is ignorance and hate!! Think and live in today.

You idiot donkey, to state my facts are skewed is that I disfavor nefyenyas for not sanitizing bloody Menelick's conquest. Remember, Menelick also bloodied Gojjam, the Kingdom of King Teklehaimanot, all the northern territories of Tigrey and Gondar who rebelled against him after the sudden death of equally attrocious Emperor Yohanis. You can not fault me on that. You are a laughable ignorant donkey.

Also, what is Amara's right as a big tribe? Discriminated against by EPRDF or PP they helped for? I am sure you gonna reply with laughable and baseless narratives. I want to hear it, dude.

I did not ask for a sympathy of an "odious" racist like you who sold out himself.

I simply posted a question of judgement to honor or dishoner them based on their previous valor for Gurage and later silence in the face a wanton slaughter by a cruel genocidal neftenyas of Menelick. I did not ask you to shed even a crocodild tears. Why make yourself important that as I wanted you to sympathise? These warriors were Gurage fighters captured fighting in Gurage resistance. They have no questionable group identity. You idiot! Stop listening historical thefts by Dawud Ibsa and Meles Zeradwa.
Kehadi!

[Odie]

የምንድነው ቀን የደነቆረ ያንኑ ሲያወራ ይሞታል!
ቀባጥር

[Dama]

የምንድነው ቀን የደነቆረ ያንኑ ሲያወራ ይሞታል!
ቀባጥር

Not me. You do not know what you are talking about. A useless liar.
Wush@a

[Agazi General]

WAWWW VERY ENTERTAINING DEBATE BETWEEN MY AGAZIAN AGAME AGENT BRAZER DAMA AND HIS OZER ACCOUNT ODIE

[Dama]

WAWWW VERY ENTERTAINING DEBATE BETWEEN MY AGAZIAN AGAME AGENT BRAZER DAMA AND HIS OZER ACCOUNT ODIE

Odie the Chimp is different. This monster of a monk is a lost donkey willing to carry the burden of Amara. Without pay. As is Horus for the Gallas.

[Horus]

ዶማ፣ የአህመድ ግራኝ ግርፍ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ባታላቁ የጉራጌዎች ሴራ አንተን መሰል የአረብ ባሪያ ንግድ ትራፊ ቃሉ ለምስክርነት አይቀርብም በጆካም ሆነ በጎርደና!

[Dama]

ዶማ፣ የአህመድ ግራኝ ግርፍ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ባታላቁ የጉራጌዎች ሴራ አንተን መሰል የአረብ ባሪያ ንግድ ትራፊ ቃሉ ለምስክርነት አይቀርብም በጆካም ሆነ በጎርደና!

You two kehadis left Gurage never to return. In opposite durections. With all your toxic venom. Period! A choice to last forever!!!