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[Noble Amhara]

Democracy is impossible in Ethnocratic Ethiopia

Ethiopia is a Ethnocratic state which constitution made by Meles Zenawi does not orient towards individual rights rather towards Ethnic rights.

The system of Ethnocracy will only empower a dictatorial unitarian government that is incredibly centralized while dividing the lower classes into ethno states with limited amounts of human rights.

What Jawar advocates for simply cannot happen. In a ethnocratic state nobody comes to power for being "good and virtuous" rather being deceitful, psychopathic, narcissistic, and manipulative. The state does not enable a good government to be made anywhere in Ethiopia. No region has any sort of fair elections. Censuses cannot even be made due to OPDOs constant state of being in wars

Peace is only guaranteed to the submissive populations that are not viewed by the central aithority as a threat. So under Abiy Ahmeds leadership he never saw the Somali or Afar as a threat so he left them alone. Abiy is avoiding war with the Easterners (Afar and Somali) as well not engaging in the south (Debub) as a threat.

War is made from the lack of civil politics which first collapsed in Welega in 2018 between Opdo and Olf. Than in Tigray in 2020 between Tplf and PP. Than in 2023 between Fano and PP.

1. Opdo cannot get itself out of wars.
2. Opdo has a unfinished war with Olf supporters in Oromia that will explode once the Amhara region stops fighting.
3. Opdo cannot fight Fano and TDF at the same time
4. Opdo cannot fight Fano and Shabia at the same time
5. Opdo makes peace to only prepare for another war

[Fiyameta]

Democracy was created by ancient Greeks some 3000 years ago. It only works on countries that are 3000 years or older.

[Noble Amhara]

Democracy was created by ancient Greeks some 3000 years ago. It only works on countries that are 3000 years or older.

Democracy works in America which is 300 years old

Democracy could work in Afar, Somali, and Debub region but Abiy Ahmed believes in a 1 party system with rigged elections. Abiy Ahmed believes hes appointed by God to rule under a 1 party system similar to Derg and Woyane

Abiy Ahmed destabilized the Amhara Region himself by replacing the regions presidents every 2 years without the permission of the Amhara people nor by election. Abiy Ahmed has shown himself to be a dictator for the Amhara people.

Meanwhile Somali region has 1 president for 6 years

[AbyssiniaLady]

Peace is not guaranteed or given, It's earned through war and heroism, Gallas are not stupid, they know very well they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they pick up a fight with Somalis, Access to seaport is only through Somali State and Afar.

[Fiyameta]

Democracy works in America

It sure does.

[Noble Amhara]

The fact that you have high speed internet and are able to write what ever you want online is because you are living in a Democratic White country not in Eritrea. Democracy grants the citizens of a state basic human rights. You worship Isaias Afwerki and Isaias is your God

here is one example of a western democratic constitution

Fundamental Freedoms:
The Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees fundamental freedoms, including:
- Freedom of conscience and religion
- Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression
- Freedom of peaceful assembly
- Freedom of association
- Freedom of speech
- Freedom of mobility

Other Rights:
The Charter also protects other rights, including:
- The right to life, liberty, and security of the person
- The right to a fair trial
- The right to equality
- The rights of Indigenous peoples

Democracy works in America

It sure does.

[Dama]

Democracy is impossible in Ethnocratic Ethiopia

Ethiopia is a Ethnocratic state which constitution made by Meles Zenawi does not orient towards individual rights rather towards Ethnic rights.

The system of Ethnocracy will only empower a dictatorial unitarian government that is incredibly centralized while dividing the lower classes into ethno states with limited amounts of human rights.

What Jawar advocates for simply cannot happen. In a ethnocratic state nobody comes to power for being "good and virtuous" rather being deceitful, psychopathic, narcissistic, and manipulative. The state does not enable a good government to be made anywhere in Ethiopia. No region has any sort of fair elections. Censuses cannot even be made due to OPDOs constant state of being in wars

Peace is only guaranteed to the submissive populations that are not viewed by the central aithority as a threat. So under Abiy Ahmeds leadership he never saw the Somali or Afar as a threat so he left them alone. Abiy is avoiding war with the Easterners (Afar and Somali) as well not engaging in the south (Debub) as a threat.

War is made from the lack of civil politics which first collapsed in Welega in 2018 between Opdo and Olf. Than in Tigray in 2020 between Tplf and PP. Than in 2023 between Fano and PP.

1. Opdo cannot get itself out of wars.
2. Opdo has a unfinished war with Olf supporters in Oromia that will explode once the Amhara region stops fighting.
3. Opdo cannot fight Fano and TDF at the same time
4. Opdo cannot fight Fano and Shabia at the same time
5. Opdo makes peace to only prepare for another war

You hate those who have not waged war on Ethiopia. In essence, you want your tribe to get help by these groups as you do destabilize Ethiopia. Therefore, insult them as submissives.
I am sure, Debub people so called by your TPLF/EPRDF, they do not see themselves as submissives. They will find your derogatory description of them offensive.
They have alternative narratives to achieve their goals. Take for example. I doubt you will consider your Agew brother Lidetu Ayalew a coward for believing armed overthrow of a seating gov cannot lead to democracy.
Think!

[Fiyameta]

In Ethiopia, Democracy means an Oromo wolf, a Tigray hyena, and an Amhara sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

[gearhead]

Noble

What is democracy but a system slated to bring forth equitable growth per the second law of finance. As every mediocre dupe of the self-congratulating farse called ''political science'', i am afraid you have misplaced the proper hierarchy of the two structures of utility.

Not to worry though: we have the perfect scapegoats as in Trump, Neteniahu, Xi, Abiy, Issayas and all the middle east kings and lords who are complicit in holding the world youth to five years of stagflation and a worsening situation, because the one man headed executive structure has given an individual immense amount power and responsibility which these individuals are no longer equiped to handle.

A reset is long overdue where the central banks hold the power over the ministries of economic activities and the different committees of congress/parliament oversee the corresponding ministries.

[Noble Amhara]

Noble

What is democracy but a system slated to bring forth equitable growth per the second law of finance. As every mediocre dupe of the self-congratulating farse called ''political science'', i am afraid you have misplaced the proper hierarchy of the two structures of utility.

Not to worry though: we have the perfect scapegoats as in Trump, Neteniahu, Xi, Abiy, Issayas and all the middle east kings and lords who are complicit in holding the world youth to five years of stagflation and a worsening situation, because the one man headed executive structure has given an individual immense amount power and responsibility which these individuals are no longer equiped to handle.

A reset is long overdue where the central banks hold the power over the ministries of economic activities and the different committees of congress/parliament oversee the corresponding ministries.

So you are saying the central bank should manage the economy and not politicians?

The congress overseeing national ministries?

Do you know Abiy Ahmed wrongfully gave EZEMA and NAMA party members high positions of "ministry" in the Federal government to dissolve their parties? That means Berhanu Nega became the Minister of Education not because of his expertise but because of his political background. NAMA's (National Movement of Amhara Party) founder Belete Molla was given a role of "Minister of Technology and Innovation" in 2021.

Ezema and Nama members were relocated to Addis Ababa where their parties effectively died and their party leaders were given high positions within the Government. Effectively dismantling the Ethiopianist rivals of Abiy Ahmed.

I was talking about the basics of democracy for primitive countries like Ethiopia and you are talking about the required updates that democracy needs in countries where it has been established for generations like America, Australia and Germany.

Ethiopias continual culture of a 1 man show owning the country like a king is not well suited for the modern age.

the fact that we have fought war after wars over political miscalculations shows how primitive our countries system is. The 1 man show has never worked in ethiopian history it has always led to a cycle of rebellions that exhaust the states wellbeing:

[gearhead]

Politicians have never run the economy but the head of the executive, and that at his whim. This is not just in ethiopia but everywhere, albeit the degree of control varies. I am saying that the head of the executive is redundant so long as the ministries exist and that ministers would and should report (direct or dotted line) to the respective committees in parliament while commanding heights of the economy such as agriculture and industry report and take their directions from the central banks.

You cant fix democracy while PM Abiy has equivalent power as that of HIM Hailesillase. Post correction is when you can address the issue of Democracy in Ethiopia. BTW, there are at least two outlooks regarding the impossibility/difficulty of democratizing ethiopia besides yours. A school that says empires cant be democratized, while the other claims harsh difficulty given the poverty of the votter. Dawd Ibsa and Meles Zenawi didnt make these assertions lightly.

[ethiopianunity]

Every institutions must be headed by those experts as well as the experts understanding the country in relation to the institution. This should be top requirement. Don’t copy and paste. It is now done and tried several times, executive appoints based on nepotism and not based on what the country needs. They tend to implement based on the influence from foreigner as well as copy and paste other nations without study

Current “democratic” systems throughout the world is proving to be failure . Usually the safest is start from your traditional way of living, then study around the world which nation is doing good and copy only what works and what does not because nation you copy system from may vary from yours geographically, diff populations that may or may not work for your nation you are copying for