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[Misraq]

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ይህ የምትመለከቱት ግለሰብ ሃዲያ ነው። አንድ ሰሞን የኢሳያስ አፎዎርቂ እና የኤርትራውያን ካካ (አይነምድር) እንደ ቴራሚሱ ኬክ ይጣፍጣል ይል የነበረ ግለሰብ ነው። አሁን አሁን ደሞ ተገልብጦ አንደኛ ተሳዳቢያቸው ሆኗል። የዓብይ አህመድ ቅጥረኛም ነው።

ደሱ የሚሉትን ሌላ ሃዲያም ስንመለከተው ስነልቦናቸው ተመሳሳይ ሆኖ አገኘሁት። ስለዚህ ሃዳያ በማሽቃበጥ አንደኛነቱን ከስልጤ በስተቀር የሚቀናቀነው የለም ያስብላል።

The Paradox.

የሃዳያ ማህበረሰብ በመካከለኛው ዘመን በቁጥሩ ብዙ ነበር። ደቡብ ኢትዬጵያ ላይ ተንሰራፍቶ ትልቅ ግዛት ይዞ ይኖር እንደነበር ይነገራል። The kingdom of Dawaro ማዕከሉን ባሌ ላይ አድርጎ የሚገኝ ጠንካራ ግዛት ነበር። የልብነ ድንግል (Emperor Dawit) እናት እሌኒም የሃድያው ንጉስ ልጅ እንደነበረች ታሪክ ይነግረናል።

ሃዳያን ከቦታው ያጠፋውና ወደ minority ያወረደው የጋላ ወራሪ ሃይል ሆኖ ሳለ የደሱና የዚህ ደደብ ግለሰብ ብልፅግና ኦሮሙማን ማገልገል ትልቅ Paradox ነው።

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[ethiopianunity]

Misraq,

When Tplf took over, the gates of protestant opened, some in South have been Protestant, then under Tplf it became like wild fire, millions dollars will be given from West to prominent Protestants in Ethiopia whom most were for long time from Hadya, Kembata were number one then Protestant set foot in Welega. Under Tplf populations were living in hardship because Tplf wanted them , the population , to convert to Protestant, so the protestant take over the population telling them Orthodox doesn’t bring you survival but Protestant is saving you, so that is how they converted millions. Let me say, faith is not about money, comfort, the previous Orthodox without money was the true faith because no money injected to it. Today, Protestants have millions given to them to convert.

[Dama]

Economic fortunes are made by supporting political power. The way some individuals work for their tribe is by supporting a power that rules Ethiopia. Deep down he is a Hadiya nationalist in a formal way, not in the sense of armed liberation front.

[Odie]

Misraq,

When Tplf took over, the gates of protestant opened, some in South have been Protestant, then under Tplf it became like wild fire, millions dollars will be given from West to prominent Protestants in Ethiopia whom most were for long time from Hadya, Kembata were number one then Protestant set foot in Welega. Under Tplf populations were living in hardship because Tplf wanted them , the population , to convert to Protestant, so the protestant take over the population telling them Orthodox doesn’t bring you survival but Protestant is saving you, so that is how they converted millions. Let me say, faith is not about money, comfort, the previous Orthodox without money was the true faith because no money injected to it. Today, Protestants have millions given to them to convert.

That is false. No money is distributed in protestant churches. Protestant members give money. I am sure that happens in EoC too. There are good members that donate, like the lady in CA who gave a million dollar to EoC. In new age protestant churches, rather the pastors rig the people and become filthy rich. That is prosperity gospel. It is in USA and it is in Nigeria. Europe became pagan or atheist selling churches to Muslims, Budha worshipers and for party houses. Ethiopian protestants were there since old time, I believe from time of the king. It started from university students and a local bred. I have been there since Derg time, as a student in high school. Protestants were not allowed to pray in open. In college it was forbidden for protestants to say grace on food. Just like in Eritrea now, protestants were prosecuted. There was no western connection. Just local growth. Meserete kirstos, mulu wongel, kale-hiwot and Mekane-yesus. Those were the only churches. Meserete kirstos and Mulu wongel were the charismatic ones who believed in healing, demon casting, spirit filling and tongue prayer. There were Eritrean students in college who did much of what protestants/evangelicals did, very calm and recollected but they said they were Eritrean orthodox. Probably like the Copts they would sing like protestants etc unlike the EoC but they would go to EoC too.
The south, including Walega, wolayita and down south were protestants to begin with. Those areas were protestants to begin with due to foreign missionaries (but it does not mean there are no EoC). There was a saying when missionaries came to Ethiopia, they were told to go to south, where non-Christians were because the north was already mostly non-Christian. Then the south obviously became more of protestant. Note also there is a large Oromo population that became Muslim through Arab connection (Coffee/Arabs were in Agaro before they got their oil and became rich). Also, a large part of Hadiya, I believe, became Muslim with pockets of EoC (Gragn effect). That is, I guess why Hadiya dumbs were prosecuting EoC of recent.
During TPLF, they did not see protistans as bad as others thought, they included them in their service as TPLF had the adage "whoever is not opposing us is not our enemy". Of course, protestants that time did not get involved in politics unlike today. Protestants coming to politics in Ethiopia is a late event of motivational preachers who said we have to bring good Christian behavior in governance and service to make things work better for the public. Unfortunately, it did not work that way. Many got corrupted and became a political animal instead of remaining a Godly person and Christian serving the public rightly. Now we crossed to ethno-fascism, religion became mixed with ethnic politics and thousands of unregulated pastors rose to podium, we have the anarchy we see now. Since the beginning protestants were not like this. Did not receive any money from anywhere. And there are well meant protestants still there who are away from many worldly things including politics, corruption and evil work. So don't get biased because of the bad apples you see including those in power. Protestants don't hate other Christians, not even other human being in practical terms (that is the bible way and living it is not easy).
The Hadya are currently happy with Oromuma I guess because kembata, Gurage, and some others are developing their major city hosanna. Dr Beyene was Oromuma kes-mogese before he passed. Kembata and Hadiy were staunch supporters of Derg. They have that tendency, jokingly we used to call the behavior being asymptote.

[Union]

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አገው misraq የደቡብ ኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ቀንደኛ ጠላት ነች። እውነተኛ ኢትዮጵያዊያንን አጥብቃ ትጠላለች። የደቡብን ህዝብ ደግሞ በጣም የምትጠላበት ምክንያት አገው ሸንጎዎች የአማራን ህዝብ ሿሿ ሰርተው ተቆጣጥረው አራት ኪሎ ለመግባት አልመው ስለነበር እና የደቡብ ህዝብ ተገንጣይ እና ሌባ ስለሚጠሉ፣ አገው misraq ደግሞ አማራ ክልልን እንደ አዲስ ሀገር አዋልዳለሁ እያለች ስለሆን፣ ከባድ ጥላቻ ደቡብ ላይ አላት።

ለዛ ነው ሁሌ ደቡቤ እያለች የምትሳደበው።

ማየት ማመን ነው። ይህን ከፍተው ይዩ። Amara will be born as an Abssynia country ትለናለቻ
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[Dama]

Mitriaq fck off!!

[Abere]

በነገራችን ላይ እነኝህ 2ቱ ተከፋዮች ዩቲዩበሪች አማራ ፋኖ የአብይ አህመድ ኦሮሙማ ጨፍጫፊ እየተዋጋ ባለበት ወቅት የሻዕብያ አክቲቪስቶች አስመራ ግምጃ አንጥፈው ተቀብለው ያሽሞናሙኗቸው ነበር። ውታፍ ነቃይ ዩቲዩበሮቹ ገደብ አልባ ጸረ-ፋኖ ፕሮፓጋንዳ ይነፉ ነበር። ሻዕብያዎች በመጨረሻ በአብይ አህመድ ላይ ያላቸው ተስፋ ሲሟጠጥ ነው ነገሩ የተቀየረው። ለዚህ ነው ሻዕብያ የአማራ ፋኖን ትግል በፍጹም ከልብ አይደግፍም - አማራጭ ሲያጣ ኦሮሙማ ላይ ግፊት ለመፍጠር ሲል ከአንገት በላይ የፋኖ ተቆርቋሪ መስሎ ሊታይ ይችላል። በዚህ ወቅት ነበር የሻዕብያ ደጋፊዎች 1ነጥብ የጣሉት። Abiy Ahmed or OLF was their #1 favorite.ሻዕብያ እውነተኛውን አማራ ፋኖ አትፈልግም - የምትፈልገው የተበየደ ፋኖ ነው።

[Misraq]

ማየት ማመን ነው። ይህን ከፍተው ይዩ። Amara will be born as an Abssynia country ትለናለቻ
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እንጥሌ

i wrote that in 2009 when I joined this forum. It tells more about my political prowes, knowledge and razor sharp prediction.

In 2011, I predicted that TPLF will collapse but it will let Galla take over and that is exactly what we saw.

The country is on the edge now. And we know the alliances and formations. Galla and Tigre having an alliance against Amhara through Pretoria and the rest of the regions being powerless, Amhara is fighting it alone.

And let me predict this now. When PP OnEg Galla administration falls, it will declare independent Oromia. It will support Tigray indepence and recognizes it first just like TPLF recognized Eritrean indepence in 1993. Galla will take much of southern nations and nationalities. That leaves Somali state and Afar. Galla will make Afar and Somali state fight each other endlessly.

[Union]

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ማየት ማመን ነው። ይህን ከፍተው ይዩ። Amara will be born as an Abssynia country ትለናለቻ
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=24297

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እንጥሌ

i wrote that in 2009 when I joined this forum. It tells more about my political prowes, knowledge and razor sharp prediction.

In 2011, I predicted that TPLF will collapse but it will let Galla take over and that is exactly what we saw.

The country is on the edge now. And we know the alliances and formations. Galla and Tigre having an alliance against Amhara through Pretoria and the rest of the regions being powerless, Amhara is fighting it alone.

And let me predict this now. When PP OnEg Galla administration falls, it will declare independent Oromia. It will support Tigray indepence and recognizes it first just like TPLF recognized Eritrean indepence in 1993. Galla will take much of southern nations and nationalities. That leaves Somali state and Afar. Galla will make Afar and Somali state fight each other endlessly.

[ethiopianunity]

ማየት ማመን ነው። ይህን ከፍተው ይዩ። Amara will be born as an Abssynia country ትለናለቻ
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=24297

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እንጥሌ

i wrote that in 2009 when I joined this forum. It tells more about my political prowes, knowledge and razor sharp prediction.

In 2011, I predicted that TPLF will collapse but it will let Galla take over and that is exactly what we saw.

The country is on the edge now. And we know the alliances and formations. Galla and Tigre having an alliance against Amhara through Pretoria and the rest of the regions being powerless, Amhara is fighting it alone.

And let me predict this now. When PP OnEg Galla administration falls, it will declare independent Oromia. It will support Tigray indepence and recognizes it first just like TPLF recognized Eritrean indepence in 1993. Galla will take much of southern nations and nationalities. That leaves Somali state and Afar. Galla will make Afar and Somali state fight each other endlessly.

Well, if that is the case, good or bad, it is better to support pp don’t you think? Zack and Somalian and them in ER are the reason they are in ER telling you, they will make Greater Somalia on the ashes of Ethiopia. So Afar may do it alone but Somali may incorporate into Somalia according to Abyssinalady, Zack and Somalian. What of Amara? They might end up the shoe shiner of Shabos and Tplf when they form Greater Tigray.

But why such discussion that demoralizes Ethiopia ? Such public discussion is indicative of the lost sheeps we became, mama Ethiopia is hurting letting her sheeps dispersed with no direct compass. My point? We should not be the door for enemies entertaining such discussion publicly.

[Misraq]

EthiopianUnity,

We know you are a supporter of PP. Don't try to gaslight as if you are not. If not the core, you are a support system for them using the Identity card. we know you are Oromo. By the way, the Derg lost the battle because so many of your Oromo kins bought the identity politics and no more interested on the "EthiopianUnity", the nick name you trying to confuse and convince here. Let me tell you this. The EPLF and TPLF spared all Oromo Generals and Colonels they captured, but butchered the lutenants and basic Amhara soldiers. We know this facts and we know how many enemies we have in this turbulant Village. By the way, the Oromo Generals were passing crucial battlefield informations harming the Derg and we are not speaking about that now for reasons i won't tell you now.

Anyways, Ethiopia is a country that can only exist if the majority agrees to commit to it. Amhara doens't have the sole burden to carry it and bleed in the process or be seen as an enemy to target. We have a lush green vast arable land with fountains of water all over with rich history and institution to go solo when push comes to shove. If there is a will from Beher-Behereseb to work together to save the country, we are commited to that. But we have no will to push or convince them to commit. As i said, the only organized political force in the country are Tigre and Oromo in which both have ill intention to us. we will defend ourselves from these two merciless savages and the Ethiopia project shouldn't be on our shoulder. We will only commit if there is interest from others. That is all. till then we doing what we are doing.

[ethiopianunity]

EthiopianUnity,

We know you are a supporter of PP. Don't try to gaslight as if you are not. If not the core, you are a support system for them using the Identity card. we know you are Oromo. By the way, the Derg lost the battle because so many of your Oromo kins bought the identity politics and no more interested on the "EthiopianUnity", the nick name you trying to confuse and convince here. Let me tell you this. The EPLF and TPLF spared all Oromo Generals and Colonels they captured, but butchered the lutenants and basic Amhara soldiers. We know this facts and we know how many enemies we have in this turbulant Village. By the way, the Oromo Generals were passing crucial battlefield informations harming the Derg and we are not speaking about that now for reasons i won't tell you now.

Anyways, Ethiopia is a country that can only exist if the majority agrees to commit to it. Amhara doens't have the sole burden to carry it and bleed in the process or be seen as an enemy to target. We have a lush green vast arable land with fountains of water all over with rich history and institution to go solo when push comes to shove. If there is a will from Beher-Behereseb to work together to save the country, we are commited to that. But we have no will to push or convince them to commit. As i said, the only organized political force in the country are Tigre and Oromo in which both have ill intention to us. we will defend ourselves from these two merciless savages and the Ethiopia project shouldn't be on our shoulder. We will only commit if there is interest from others. That is all. till then we doing what we are doing.

Isolating Amara, despite being victimized under LFs is futile. What are you going to to millions outside of Amara and other pro Ethiopian populations when you say do it alone? Alone is why dangerous for Amara than being with its brothers and sisters of pro Ethiopian peoples. That is exactly what enemies want.If you are truly Amara, Why do you think Colonialists and its mercenary LFs want ethnic apartheid in Ethiopia besides disintegrating it? It is to divide and conquer. The likes of you never get this agenda, do you? Once isolated they can do anything to you eko. Caribbean countries/islands are no longer free and colonialists are doing everything to them with no help from other nations because geographically, they are isolated. Island or not, once you are isolated and with no allies, they can do anything to you. My fear is that Nile maybe signed off to foreigners by some local Amara under Tplf. What about already occupied Tana Haiq? Fasil building? Who talks about or protect Lalibela? You are just barking here like empty korkoro, do you really know what is going on resource, historical architecture what is happening? Not to mention, rare and special indigenous Amaras are being made disappear from their land?