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John Pilger, on Ukraine, 10 years ago

Post by Zmeselo » 04 Mar 2025, 17:22



Opinion
In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia

John Pilger

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ohn-pilger

Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

Tue 13 May 2014



Why do we tolerate the threat of another world war in our name? Why do we allow lies that justify this risk? The scale of our indoctrination, wrote Harold Pinter, http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/ ... ure-e.html is a
brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis,


as if the truth
never happened even while it was happening.
Every year the American historian William Blum http://williamblum.org/ publishes his
updated summary of the record of US foreign policy


which shows that, since 1945, the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries; bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.

In many cases Britain has been a collaborator. The degree of human suffering, let alone criminality, is little acknowledged in the west, despite the presence of the world's most advanced communications and nominally most free journalism. That the most numerous victims of terrorism – "our" terrorism – are Muslims, is unsayable. That extreme jihadism, which led to 9/11, was nurtured as a weapon of Anglo-American policy (Operation Cyclone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone in Afghanistan) is suppressed. In April the US state department noted that, following Nato's campaign in 2011,
Libya has become a terrorist safe haven.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/ ... -low-libya

The name of "our" enemy has changed over the years, from communism to Islamism, but generally it is any society independent of western power and occupying strategically useful or resource-rich territory, or merely offering an alternative to US domination. The leaders of these obstructive nations are usually violently shoved aside, such as the democrats Muhammad Mossedeq in Iran, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... i-mossadeq Arbenz in Guatemala and Salvador Allende in Chile, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/ ... tion-chile or they are murdered like Patrice Lumumba https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... assination in the Democratic Republic of Congo. All are subjected to a western media campaign of vilification – think Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez, now Vladimir Putin.

Washington's role in Ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine is different only in its implications for the rest of us. For the first time since the Reagan years, the US is threatening to take the world to war. With eastern Europe and the Balkans now military outposts of Nato, the last "buffer state" bordering Russia – Ukraine – is being torn apart by fascist forces unleashed by the US and the EU. We in the west are now backing neo-Nazis in a country where Ukrainian Nazis backed Hitler.

Having masterminded the coup in February against the democratically elected government in Kiev, Washington's planned seizure of Russia's historic, legitimate warm-water naval base in Crimea failed. The Russians defended themselves, as they have done against every threat and invasion from the west for almost a century.

But Nato's military encirclement has accelerated, along with US-orchestrated attacks on ethnic Russians in Ukraine. If Putin can be provoked into coming to their aid, his pre-ordained "pariah" role will justify a Nato-run guerrilla war that is likely to spill into Russia itself.

Instead, Putin has confounded the war party by seeking an accommodation with Washington and the EU, by withdrawing Russian troops from the Ukrainian border and urging ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine to abandon the weekend's provocative referendum. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... sk-luhansk

These Russian-speaking and bilingual people – a third of Ukraine's population – have long sought a democratic federation that reflects the country's ethnic diversity and is both autonomous of Kiev and independent of Moscow. Most are neither "separatists" nor "rebels", as the western media calls them, but citizens who want to live securely in their homeland.

Like the ruins of Iraq and Afghanistan, Ukraine has been turned into a CIA theme park – run personally by CIA director John Brennan in Kiev, with dozens of "special units" from the CIA and FBI setting up a "security structure" that oversees savage attacks on those who opposed the February coup. Watch the videos, read the eye-witness reports from the massacre in Odessa this month. Bussed fascist thugs burned the trade union headquarters, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... ve-updates killing 41 people trapped inside. Watch the police standing by.

A doctor described trying to rescue people,
but I was stopped by pro-Ukrainian Nazi radicals. One of them pushed me away rudely, promising that soon me and other Jews of Odessa are going to meet the same fate. What occurred yesterday didn't even take place during the fascist occupation in my town in world war two. I wonder, why the whole world is keeping silent.
[see footnote]

Russian-speaking Ukrainians are fighting for survival. When Putin announced the withdrawal of Russian troops from the border, the Kiev junta's defence secretary, Andriy Parubiy – a founding member of the fascist Svoboda party – boasted that attacks on "insurgents" would continue. In Orwellian style, propaganda in the west has inverted this to Moscow
trying to orchestrate conflict and provocation,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27305245 according to William Hague.

His cynicism is matched by Obama's grotesque congratulations to the coup junta on its "remarkable restraint" http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/ ... DH20140415 after the Odessa massacre.

The junta, says Obama, is "duly elected". As Henry Kissinger once said: http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/ ... _Kissinger
It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but what is perceived to be true.
In the US media the Odessa atrocity has been played down as "murky" and a "tragedy" in which "nationalists" (neo-Nazis) attacked "separatists" (people collecting signatures for a referendum on a federal Ukraine). Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal damned the victims –
Deadly Ukraine Fire Likely Sparked by Rebels, Government Says.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 87978.html

Propaganda in Germany has been pure cold war, with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung warning its readers of Russia's "undeclared war". For the Germans, it is a poignant irony that Putin is the only leader to condemn the rise of fascism in 21st-century Europe.

A popular truism is that "the world changed" following 9/11. But what has changed? According to the great whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, https://www.theguardian.com/profile/daniel-ellsberg a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules. The Pentagon currently runs "special operations" – secret wars – in 124 countries. At home, rising poverty and a loss of liberty are the historic corollary of a perpetual war state. Add the risk of nuclear war, and the question is: why do we tolerate this?

www.johnpilger.com

The following footnote was appended on 16 May 2014: The quotation from a doctor who says he was "stopped by pro-Ukrainian Nazi radicals" was from an account on a Facebook page that has subsequently been removed.




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Re: John Pilger, on Ukraine, 10 years ago

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Re: John Pilger, on Ukraine, 10 years ago

Post by Zmeselo » 04 Mar 2025, 21:52

Some Thoughts On Ukraine

Caitlin Johnstone

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/some-th ... on-ukraine

Mar 04, 2025



As the Trump administration pauses military aid to Ukraine https://news.antiwar.com/2025/03/03/tru ... o-ukraine/ and western liberals continue their shrieking meltdown over Trump hurting Saint Zelensky’s feelings, https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/trump-s ... pons-while it’s probably worth reminding everyone that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was indisputably provoked by western aggressions. https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/09 ... nt-page-1/

That’s why so many western experts and analysts spent years warning ahead of time that western aggressions were going to provoke an invasion of Ukraine.

Now, some may hear this and say
Okay but Russia still shouldn’t have invaded even though our western leaders were aggressively provoking them to.
But before you do that it might be a good idea to look inside yourself and ask where that impulse is arising from. Why are you so eager to skip past the part where you criticize your own rulers for their role in starting this war and focus solely on criticizing the leader of an eastern government who has no power over you? What is it inside of you that’s flailing all over the place trying to avoid any forceful scrutiny of the reckless warmongering of your own government and its allies?

The last time a foreign rival placed a credible military threat near the border of the United States, the US responded so aggressively https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/08 ... ost-ended/ that the world almost ended (if you want to know just how close we came to nuclear annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis, look up the name Vasili Arkhipov). Western liberals have been conditioned to insist that Russia should have responded differently to the US empire amassing proxy forces on its border than the US would respond to the same kind of threat on its own borders. The frenetic mental contortions needed to justify this ridiculous double standard are only possible because the west is saturated in domestic propaganda https://consortiumnews.com/2023/06/05/c ... ournalism/ manipulating the way they think about the world.

It makes sense for there to be criticism of Russia for its role in this war, and for people to be horrified by the nightmare that’s been happening in Ukraine these last few years. What makes absolutely no sense whatsoever is for western liberals (or “progressives” or whatever they want to call themselves) to assign ZERO PERCENT RESPONSIBILITY to their own government and its allies for their extensively documented role in sparking this conflict and ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBILITY to a foreign government with no power over them. That’s pathetic, bootlicking behavior, and it’s utterly inexcusable.

Stop performing mental gymnastics to defend the abuses of your rulers. Have a little dignity for god’s sake.

It is good that Trump appears to be moving toward ending an unwinnable proxy war that Ukrainians no longer want to fight. https://news.antiwar.com/2024/11/19/pol ... th-russia/

Anyone who disagrees with this is a dogshit human being.

I am not grateful to Trump for ending this nightmare, I’m just disgusted with anyone who’s against doing so. The proxy war in Ukraine was going to end https://x.com/caitoz/status/1856837388104077371 sometime relatively soon anyway; the only way for NATO to reverse Russia’s steady gains at this point would be to intervene more directly in ways that would risk nuclear consequences that western leaders aren’t willing to receive. This was always a chess game for them; they’re not going to put their own necks on the line. So the war had to end  to make way for other imperial projects— the Trumpists are just the faction that the empire has tasked with advancing this agenda.

I will not waste any gratitude on Trump rolling back a failed imperial bid to weaken Russia, but I will absolutely scream my fucking lungs out at anyone who insists Ukrainians should keep throwing their bodies into a war that Ukrainians themselves no longer support. If you want the Ukraine war to continue, then go enlist and put your body on the line so that Ukrainians don’t have to. The Ukrainian Foreign Legion is still accepting volunteers. https://ildu.com.ua/

If you want this horrific war to continue, either go and fight or shut the fûck up. Stop tweeting from the sofa in your safe, comfortable home and get your [deleted] to the frontline. Bring along as many western liberals as you can convince to join your cause.

The western empire provoked this war. The western empire sabotaged peace talks https://news.antiwar.com/2024/09/09/vic ... a-in-2022/ in the early weeks after the invasion. They refused off-ramp after off-ramp in pushing Ukraine into this situation, and as a result Ukraine is going to be much worse off than before this all started. Wanting Ukraine to keep throwing human lives into the meat grinder in the hopes that they can recover all their lost territory is just sunk cost fallacy https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20 ... our-losses at this point.

Ukrainians now recognize that it’s time to cut their losses and negotiate a peace. Western armchair warriors need to recognize this too.

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