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I don't think your assertion accurately portrays the current situation or facts on the ground.

This might have been the case when midget Zenawi (May he rot in hell) was running the show in Ethiopia.

Is there an ethno-religious group in Ethiopia, to start with?

Yakume wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 08:51

Yes, there are several ethno-religious groups in Ethiopia including Oromo Waaqeffannaa. Ethiopia's Oromo politicians from OPDO and OLF in Addis Ababa are guided by the actions of their late teachers (Woyane TPLF), and have appointed Oromos to all federal ministries, embassies, military and security agencies, as well as churches and mosques.

But not all Galla are pagans (Waaqeffannaa), as they also have Muslims and Christians, even though, in reality, the fuc'kers have no religion whatsoever, as they're Muslim today, Christian tomorrow, Muslim again the following day, and Christian a month later.

However, it's quite interesting to know that the fuc'kers are now doing exactly what they used o complain about in the past.

They should be deported back to where they came from. No one likes these fuc'kers in East Africa.

They don’t take religion seriously. They are religion fluid. As you said can easily transform muslim to christian to back to muslim but Waqe will always be in their deep inside.
That is why all so called muslims as well as christian’s go to Irecha in thousands.In reality christian’s and muslim would not be expected to attend irecha. This behavior is also reflected in their politics and handling diplomacy.

I doubt the above is true. Most of the public service positions in Oromo are filled by Christian Oromos. Closer scrutiny may reveal majority of Protestant Christians. Abiy Ahmed, lemma Megersa, Shimellis are protestants.
Jawar Mohammed described Welega-originated OLF as a Christian Oromo nationalism. The same is true in Gurage, Amara and Tigrey. The nationalists in these are Christian elites. These groups alienate Muslims and reduce their participation in politics to 'manageable, controllable' numbers.
There are assertions, proved to be true albeit it's ant-colonialist and anti-capitalist social science that imperialists used and still use religion to oppress the working class and colonized Africa and Asia. They explain the fabrication of Christian missionaries prior to colonization and during the slave trades was for this purpose. If OLF perceives Oromo as a colonized group by Christian Abyssinia thru conquest and christianization, a freed Oromo has to find alternate faith that is organic, fulfilling social needs of cohesion and righteousness. Does Irrecha supply these values?

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:28

I doubt the above is true. Most of the public service positions in Oromo are filled by Christian Oromos. Closer scrutiny may reveal majority of Protestant Christians. Abiy Ahmed, lemma Megersa, Shimellis are protestants.
Jawar Mohammed described Welega-originated OLF as a Christian Oromo nationalism. The same is true in Gurage, Amara and Tigrey. The nationalists in these are Christian elites. These groups alienate Muslims and reduce their participation in politics to 'manageable, controllable' numbers.
There are assertions, proved to be true albeit it's ant-colonialist and anti-capitalist social science that imperialists used and still use religion to oppress the working class and colonized Africa and Asia. They explain the fabrication of Christian missionaries prior to colonization and during the slave trades was for this purpose. If OLF perceives Oromo as a colonized group by Christian Abyssinia thru conquest and christianization, a freed Oromo has to find alternate faith that is organic, fulfilling social needs of cohesion and righteousness. Does Irrecha supply these values?

No body spoke about the political oromo elite. The issue was for all of them. The so called protestants in power are abusing the religion to assert their power. The Oromuma once were heard saying Oromuma/waqefeta is a religion that must/transcend(s)“semitic” religions and those who don’t worship waqa and attend Irecha are not Oromuma enough. That actually has become the source of their fanatisism to kill christians specially orthodox. That is a cult and trojan horse tool to destroy the country for those who understand things and don’t worship their belly.
Don’t try to twist the conversation to reflect your sh1t of hate to christians. You are an idi0t like them because all you see is your religion. You can’t think logically beyond that. somallliman I believe a muslim is smart muslim than you are. He differentiates secular politics and religion!

Odie wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:56

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:28

I doubt the above is true. Most of the public service positions in Oromo are filled by Christian Oromos. Closer scrutiny may reveal majority of Protestant Christians. Abiy Ahmed, lemma Megersa, Shimellis are protestants.
Jawar Mohammed described Welega-originated OLF as a Christian Oromo nationalism. The same is true in Gurage, Amara and Tigrey. The nationalists in these are Christian elites. These groups alienate Muslims and reduce their participation in politics to 'manageable, controllable' numbers.
There are assertions, proved to be true albeit it's ant-colonialist and anti-capitalist social science that imperialists used and still use religion to oppress the working class and colonized Africa and Asia. They explain the fabrication of Christian missionaries prior to colonization and during the slave trades was for this purpose. If OLF perceives Oromo as a colonized group by Christian Abyssinia thru conquest and christianization, a freed Oromo has to find alternate faith that is organic, fulfilling social needs of cohesion and righteousness. Does Irrecha supply these values?

No body spoke about the political oromo elite. The issue was for all of them. The so called protestants in power are abusing the religion to assert their power. The Oromuma once were heard saying Oromuma/waqefeta is a religion that must/transcend(s)“semitic” religions and those who don’t worship waqa and attend Irecha are not Oromuma enough. That actually has become the source of their fanatisism to kill christians specially orthodox. That is a cult and trojan horse tool to destroy the country for those who understand things and don’t worship their belly.
Don’t try to twist the conversation to reflect your sh1t of hate to christians. You are an idi0t like them because all you see is your religion. You can’t think logically beyond that. somallliman I believe a muslim is smart muslim than you are. He differentiates secular politics and religion!

Odie the Chip monk
You do not read. Practically illiterate for sharing knowledge. An ignorant retard brainwashed about the ungodly wooden tabot of a Christian cult unwanted in Syria and dumped on Axum in 330 AD.
You can't add value to a discussion of ideas. Common sense inspired by the Bible and loyalty to Amara does not really enlighten you or anyone else. You limited yourself, made yourself useless to add knowledge to an intellectual debate like this.

Somaliman once told me he didn't care about Islam. He is not a Muslim despite your insinuation. He is an Eritrean nationalist, a hater of everything ethiopian, every ethnic, every green spaces, our river resources, our mountains, our hospitality, our kindness, even our acceptances of Eritrean refugees who fled tyranny imposed by the dictator Isayas he adores as his hero.
He happens to speak Somali. His degree of fluency is questionable but I cannot grade it. Most probably an atheist of the worst kind, without respect for those who hold any faith. His hate of Oromo and the vitriol he spews on them is nauseating, degrading and insulting. . A thug of the worst kind. The truth is 1 in 1000 years, he accidentally tells the truth. This time he did. He rightly said that not all Oromos were Waqaffanna believers. Indeed he is right. Only 300,000 to 1 million of the Oromo are believed to believe in Waqaffanna.
Sit behind him on his camel while knowing he hates you more than you hate him.
Yene kebt!

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 21:05

Odie wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:56

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:28

I doubt the above is true. Most of the public service positions in Oromo are filled by Christian Oromos. Closer scrutiny may reveal majority of Protestant Christians. Abiy Ahmed, lemma Megersa, Shimellis are protestants.
Jawar Mohammed described Welega-originated OLF as a Christian Oromo nationalism. The same is true in Gurage, Amara and Tigrey. The nationalists in these are Christian elites. These groups alienate Muslims and reduce their participation in politics to 'manageable, controllable' numbers.
There are assertions, proved to be true albeit it's ant-colonialist and anti-capitalist social science that imperialists used and still use religion to oppress the working class and colonized Africa and Asia. They explain the fabrication of Christian missionaries prior to colonization and during the slave trades was for this purpose. If OLF perceives Oromo as a colonized group by Christian Abyssinia thru conquest and christianization, a freed Oromo has to find alternate faith that is organic, fulfilling social needs of cohesion and righteousness. Does Irrecha supply these values?

No body spoke about the political oromo elite. The issue was for all of them. The so called protestants in power are abusing the religion to assert their power. The Oromuma once were heard saying Oromuma/waqefeta is a religion that must/transcend(s)“semitic” religions and those who don’t worship waqa and attend Irecha are not Oromuma enough. That actually has become the source of their fanatisism to kill christians specially orthodox. That is a cult and trojan horse tool to destroy the country for those who understand things and don’t worship their belly.
Don’t try to twist the conversation to reflect your sh1t of hate to christians. You are an idi0t like them because all you see is your religion. You can’t think logically beyond that. somallliman I believe a muslim is smart muslim than you are. He differentiates secular politics and religion!

Odie the Chip monk
You do not read. Practically illiterate for sharing knowledge. An ignorant retard brainwashed about the ungodly wooden tabot of a Christian cult unwanted in Syria and dumped on Axum in 330 AD.
You can't add value to a discussion of ideas. Common sense inspired by the Bible and loyalty to Amara does not really enlighten you or anyone else. You limited yourself, made yourself useless to add knowledge to an intellectual diebate like this.

Somaliman once told me he doesn't care about Islam. He is not a Muslim despite your insinuation. He is an Eritrean nationalist, a hater of everything ethiopian, every ethnic, every green spaces, our river resources, our mountains, our hospitality, our kindness, even our acceptances of Eritrean refugees who fled tyranny they fled imposed on the dictator Isayas he adores as his hero. He happens to speak Somali. His degree fluency is questionable but I cannot grade it. Most probably an atheist of the worst kind, without respect for those who hold any faith. His hate of Oromo hate and the vitriol he spews on them is nauseating, degrading and insulting. . A thug of the worst kind. The truth is 1 in 1000 years, he accidentally tells the truth. This time he did. He rightly said that not all Oromos were Waqaffanna. Indeed he is right. Only 300,000 to 1 million of the Oromo are believed to believe Waqaffanna.
Sit behind him on his camel while knowing he hates you more than you hate him.
Yene kebt!

ያልተከታተልከውን አትቀባጥር:: ምናልባት ነጋ ቱማ ጋ ሄደህ ተማር!
ኦሮሞዎቹ መስራት የጀመሩት fairy tale ግዙፍ ነው:: እንደውም ከ ፍጥረተ አለም መስረት ጀምሮ የነበረ ዋቀ ከእዚአብሄርም ሆነ አላ ጋር አንድ የሆነ አምላክ ነው መጀመርያ ነበርን ቅዱስ መፅሃፋችን እንስሳ በልታብን ነው ኦሮሙማና ዋቀ ከሁሉ ሃይማኖት በላይ ነው ብለው ቄሮ እንስሳውን ለጥፋት እነሳስተው አገር እያጠፉ ነው ያለው::

“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”

Get out of you muslim box at least sometimes and cerebrate like an educated person!
ካንተ ጭቅጭቅ በቃኝ

Odie wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 21:15

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 21:05

Odie wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:56

Dama wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025, 19:28

I doubt the above is true. Most of the public service positions in Oromo are filled by Christian Oromos. Closer scrutiny may reveal majority of Protestant Christians. Abiy Ahmed, lemma Megersa, Shimellis are protestants.
Jawar Mohammed described Welega-originated OLF as a Christian Oromo nationalism. The same is true in Gurage, Amara and Tigrey. The nationalists in these are Christian elites. These groups alienate Muslims and reduce their participation in politics to 'manageable, controllable' numbers.
There are assertions, proved to be true albeit it's ant-colonialist and anti-capitalist social science that imperialists used and still use religion to oppress the working class and colonized Africa and Asia. They explain the fabrication of Christian missionaries prior to colonization and during the slave trades was for this purpose. If OLF perceives Oromo as a colonized group by Christian Abyssinia thru conquest and christianization, a freed Oromo has to find alternate faith that is organic, fulfilling social needs of cohesion and righteousness. Does Irrecha supply these values?

No body spoke about the political oromo elite. The issue was for all of them. The so called protestants in power are abusing the religion to assert their power. The Oromuma once were heard saying Oromuma/waqefeta is a religion that must/transcend(s)“semitic” religions and those who don’t worship waqa and attend Irecha are not Oromuma enough. That actually has become the source of their fanatisism to kill christians specially orthodox. That is a cult and trojan horse tool to destroy the country for those who understand things and don’t worship their belly.
Don’t try to twist the conversation to reflect your sh1t of hate to christians. You are an idi0t like them because all you see is your religion. You can’t think logically beyond that. somallliman I believe a muslim is smart muslim than you are. He differentiates secular politics and religion!

Odie the Chip monk
You do not read. Practically illiterate for sharing knowledge. An ignorant retard brainwashed about the ungodly wooden tabot of a Christian cult unwanted in Syria and dumped on Axum in 330 AD.
You can't add value to a discussion of ideas. Common sense inspired by the Bible and loyalty to Amara does not really enlighten you or anyone else. You limited yourself, made yourself useless to add knowledge to an intellectual diebate like this.

Somaliman once told me he doesn't care about Islam. He is not a Muslim despite your insinuation. He is an Eritrean nationalist, a hater of everything ethiopian, every ethnic, every green spaces, our river resources, our mountains, our hospitality, our kindness, even our acceptances of Eritrean refugees who fled tyranny they fled imposed on the dictator Isayas he adores as his hero. He happens to speak Somali. His degree fluency is questionable but I cannot grade it. Most probably an atheist of the worst kind, without respect for those who hold any faith. His hate of Oromo hate and the vitriol he spews on them is nauseating, degrading and insulting. . A thug of the worst kind. The truth is 1 in 1000 years, he accidentally tells the truth. This time he did. He rightly said that not all Oromos were Waqaffanna. Indeed he is right. Only 300,000 to 1 million of the Oromo are believed to believe Waqaffanna.
Sit behind him on his camel while knowing he hates you more than you hate him.
Yene kebt!

ያልተከታተልከውን አትቀባጥር:: ምናልባት ነጋ ቱማ ጋ ሄደህ ተማር!
ኦሮሞዎቹ መስራት የጀመሩት fairy tale ግዙፍ ነው:: እንደውም ከ ፍጥረተ አለም መስረት ጀምሮ የነበረ ዋቀ ከእዚአብሄርም ሆነ አላ ጋር አንድ የሆነ አምላክ ነው መጀመርያ ነበርን ቅዱስ መፅሃፋችን እንስሳ በልታብን ነው ኦሮሙማና ዋቀ ከሁሉ ሃይማኖት በላይ ነው ብለው ቄሮ እንስሳውን ለጥፋት እነሳስተው አገር እያጠፉ ነው ያለው::

“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”

Get out of you muslim box at least sometimes and cerebrate like an educated person!
ካንተ ጭቅጭቅ በቃኝ

This is 21st century. Medieval Europe. Not the era of crusaders. Not the era of islamic jihad. Not an ero exorcism. Not an era of faith cleansing of one against the other.

Freedom of worship, a branch of basic human rights has been debated over and again. Some paid the price of their lives. Finally, it has been written into laws of nations around the world, even prior to it becoming an article in the UN Charter.

I do not personally subscribe to waqaffenna. But some Ethiopians, a people of my country do believe in it. And it makes them happy. They believe it makes them whole and good persons in their community. It may even anti-crime, anti-sin, anti-theft teachings. It may paint a rosy picture of life after death for those who are good. These Ethiopians are citizens with full rights to a freedom of worship permitted in all Ethiopian constitutions. It's morally wrong to interfere, degrade their choice of belief, faith or worship. It's also a crime under the Ethiopian constitutions of past and present.

I read a few lines of Naga Tuma where he suggested Egyptian material and spiritual enlightment were learned from Oromo civilization or ancient Egyptians were Oromos or extracts of Oromos who later migrated south northern Eritrea, northern Ethiopia, Shewa and finally to Borana. Obviously, not only without any foundation, it's just nonsensical of an idle mind. Most of his blabber come from word etymology of the type of Horus. Making unrelated words familial to each other because they sound similar. Such to, two and too.

Also, it matter where such nonsense is said. It's here on this forum where views are just views but not an outcome of a research findings. Opinions. Unresearched. Unsupervised by a professor. And opinions not peer-reviewed.
So who cares about what Naga Tuma says! May be only you. Not me!