ETHIOPIA & SOMALILAND HAVE SHAKEN UP THE HORN OF AFRICA!
Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 14:54
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ETHIOPIA & SOMALILAND HAVE SHAKEN UP THE HORN OF AFRICA!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 15:03
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 15:08
For your information, they've been holding such a one clan show every few years and it hasn't taken them anywhere to date, neither has it added an iota of anything to their status. And this one won't make any difference whatsoever either.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 15:38
Somali Land is being used as a condom to Abbiy who in turn is a condom to the sheik of the Emirati kingdom. Abbiy does not have the guts to recognize Somali Land. The sheik is running out of patience. 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 16:34
Ethiopia already recognises somaliland indirectly. And we don't care if they don't officially recognise somaliland. Our goals with Ethiopia from our point of view is purely business. Abiy is destroying Ethiopia economy prospects. From double digit Growth to almost zero.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 16:36
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 16:55
Somaliland is contributing to the economy of Ethiopia, as it's paying Ethiopia hundreds of millions of US dollars every fuc'king year for buying khat, while Somaliland's export volume to Ethiopia is ZERO.
Somaliland and Ethiopia will never be equal business partners. People in Somaliland are not producing or manufacturing anything whatsoever, as all their life revolves around chewing khat and talking tribalism 24/7 and doing nothing else. And this is the main reason why the West s not interested in recognising this region, as they know perfectly well that all Somaliland would do if recognised is to embark upon begging the West - and no one wants one more hungry mouth coming to the table.
Somaliland and Ethiopia will never be equal business partners. People in Somaliland are not producing or manufacturing anything whatsoever, as all their life revolves around chewing khat and talking tribalism 24/7 and doing nothing else. And this is the main reason why the West s not interested in recognising this region, as they know perfectly well that all Somaliland would do if recognised is to embark upon begging the West - and no one wants one more hungry mouth coming to the table.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 17:05
እኛ የማናቃት ሌላ ኢትዮጵያ አለች እንዴ? 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 17:48
Somaliman,
You are making a different argument. Yes, Somaliland right now does not have the money to develop its resources because the cruel world has denied it a status that is critical to join world market and finance - hence why the singular rational for quest for recognition.
In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale and that alone was a historic contribution of my nation Ethiopia to the people of Somaliland.
Again, irrespective of how long their recognition takes the Ethio-Somaliland strategic relationship including economic is sealed for good. Soon, we will buying Somaliland fish in Merkato. Soon, Somaliland will a dynamic economic partner of Ethiopia in many many fields including energy.
As for the effect of Chat on their culture, that is for their society to solve. Ethiopia also needs to solve its expansion both as commercial crop and drug problem.
That aside, Somaliland's vision of Ethiopia's strategic importance to its development is a far sighted and brilliant vision. Somaliland has miles upon miles of sea cost and by leasing a few km of it to us and in return enter Ethiopian market with force that is what I call brilliance. For us access to sea a naval base is as critical as the Nile Dam.
So, it is a marriage made in heaven. No power can sabotage it.
You are making a different argument. Yes, Somaliland right now does not have the money to develop its resources because the cruel world has denied it a status that is critical to join world market and finance - hence why the singular rational for quest for recognition.
In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale and that alone was a historic contribution of my nation Ethiopia to the people of Somaliland.
Again, irrespective of how long their recognition takes the Ethio-Somaliland strategic relationship including economic is sealed for good. Soon, we will buying Somaliland fish in Merkato. Soon, Somaliland will a dynamic economic partner of Ethiopia in many many fields including energy.
As for the effect of Chat on their culture, that is for their society to solve. Ethiopia also needs to solve its expansion both as commercial crop and drug problem.
That aside, Somaliland's vision of Ethiopia's strategic importance to its development is a far sighted and brilliant vision. Somaliland has miles upon miles of sea cost and by leasing a few km of it to us and in return enter Ethiopian market with force that is what I call brilliance. For us access to sea a naval base is as critical as the Nile Dam.
So, it is a marriage made in heaven. No power can sabotage it.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 18:00
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 18:01
Somaliman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 16:55Somaliland is contributing to the economy of Ethiopia, as it's paying Ethiopia hundreds of millions of US dollars every fuc'king year for buying khat, while Somaliland's export volume to Ethiopia is ZERO.
Somaliland and Ethiopia will never be equal business partners. People in Somaliland are not producing or manufacturing anything whatsoever, as all their life revolves around chewing khat and talking tribalism 24/7 and doing nothing else. And this is the main reason why the West s not interested in recognising this region, as they know perfectly well that all Somaliland would do if recognised is to embark upon begging the West - and no one wants one more hungry mouth coming to the table.
Statistics show that zoomalia and Ethiopia are the biggest beggars in the neighborhood. Atleast Ethiopia begs relief but you beg both relief and peace keepers . Because you are incapable to provide basic policing service.
Somaliland have managed to improve all the human development index by ourselves. We don't rely on any body. Not you Somalis, not Ethiopia , not EU or the UN. We exist because we are competent.
Ethiopia is 120 million nation , we have fraction of their population. Ethiopia economy progress is good for us. If they produce, we trade. We have nothing to gain from zoomalia, to be honest with you. Sorry .
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 18:08
Horus wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 17:48Somaliman,
You are making a different argument. Yes, Somaliland right now does not have the money to develop its resources because the cruel world has denied it a status that is critical to join world market and finance - hence why the singular rational for quest for recognition.
In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale and that alone was a historic contribution of my nation Ethiopia to the people of Somaliland.
Again, irrespective of how long their recognition takes the Ethio-Somaliland strategic relationship including economic is sealed for good. Soon, we will buying Somaliland fish in Merkato. Soon, Somaliland will a dynamic economic partner of Ethiopia in many many fields including energy.
As for the effect of Chat on their culture, that is for their society to solve. Ethiopia also needs to solve its expansion both as commercial crop and drug problem.
That aside, Somaliland's vision of Ethiopia's strategic importance to its development is a far sighted and brilliant vision. Somaliland has miles upon miles of sea cost and by leasing a few km of it to us and in return enter Ethiopian market with force that is what I call brilliance. For us access to sea a naval base is as critical as the Nile Dam.
So, it is a marriage made in heaven. No power can sabotage it.
How has Ethiopia "forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale"?In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 19:34
Somaliland has always been there playing geopolitical games against china. Ages before the MoU. The only thing Abiy brought is too much negative attention from Egypt, turkey and their allies.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 19:48
Horsesh'it,
Why don't you answer the question?
Each time your bullsh'it gets smashed, you put your ar'se out of sight!!!
Why don't you answer the question?
Each time your bullsh'it gets smashed, you put your ar'se out of sight!!!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 22:42
Somaliman,Somaliman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 18:08Horus wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 17:48Somaliman,
You are making a different argument. Yes, Somaliland right now does not have the money to develop its resources because the cruel world has denied it a status that is critical to join world market and finance - hence why the singular rational for quest for recognition.
In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale and that alone was a historic contribution of my nation Ethiopia to the people of Somaliland.
Again, irrespective of how long their recognition takes the Ethio-Somaliland strategic relationship including economic is sealed for good. Soon, we will buying Somaliland fish in Merkato. Soon, Somaliland will a dynamic economic partner of Ethiopia in many many fields including energy.
As for the effect of Chat on their culture, that is for their society to solve. Ethiopia also needs to solve its expansion both as commercial crop and drug problem.
That aside, Somaliland's vision of Ethiopia's strategic importance to its development is a far sighted and brilliant vision. Somaliland has miles upon miles of sea cost and by leasing a few km of it to us and in return enter Ethiopian market with force that is what I call brilliance. For us access to sea a naval base is as critical as the Nile Dam.
So, it is a marriage made in heaven. No power can sabotage it.
How has Ethiopia "forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale"?In January almost a year ago, I said that irrespective of the outcome of the MOU, Ethiopia has forcefully put the Somaliland cause on the world scale
Sorry. I do blogging on my down time and to relax from other tasks; that's way. Forcefully put simply means strongly put that is all. Evidence is her on ER. Somaliland existed as independent entity for longer than 30 years. Here we are talking about her on ER only as a consequence of the MOU. Because of the MOU the geopolitics of the Horn has changed up to including a potential danger of war. As we speak, I believe most of the politically informed world knows about Somaliland and the majority sentiment is toward her recognition, save for the legal fiction called sovereignty. Right now I am deeply interested in the outcome the election there. Even though all 3 candidates stated their support for the MOU, I prefer Muse Bihi to win since he is the who signed the MOU.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 23:22
Muse is not coming back. He failed to address some domestic issues , and we have decided to oust him, I know the results before it's counted. The new government is going to be very inclusive and have plenty of time. With almost zero opposition.
We will see a shift of somaliland diplomacy. Muse was warlike , and very straight forward. The new guy is a career diplomat, he talks less , he smile a lot. And he accomodates every one. Just like abiy pretended during his first 2 years in office. He is very unpredictable in my opinion.
We will see a shift of somaliland diplomacy. Muse was warlike , and very straight forward. The new guy is a career diplomat, he talks less , he smile a lot. And he accomodates every one. Just like abiy pretended during his first 2 years in office. He is very unpredictable in my opinion.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 23:35
I was kind of sensing the same thing. Do you know the actual result or are you simply stating your preference? My other question is do both parties have same level commitment toward the MOU or do you think they will back out? I have no problem with whom Somalilanders choose for their president. My worry is all about the MOU.Jikaar wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 23:22Muse is not coming back. He failed to address some domestic issues , and we have decided to oust him, I know the results before it's counted. The new government is going to be very inclusive and have plenty of time. With almost zero opposition.
We will see a shift of somaliland diplomacy. Muse was warlike , and very straight forward. The new guy is a career diplomat, he talks less , he smile a lot. And he accomodates every one. Just like abiy pretended during his first 2 years in office. He is very unpredictable in my opinion.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2024, 01:28
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Posted: 14 Nov 2024, 04:42
No body knows the actual results yet. But the general atmosphere shows that he is loosing .Horus wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 23:35I was kind of sensing the same thing. Do you know the actual result or are you simply stating your preference? My other question is do both parties have same level commitment toward the MOU or do you think they will back out? I have no problem with whom Somalilanders choose for their president. My worry is all about the MOU.Jikaar wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 23:22Muse is not coming back. He failed to address some domestic issues , and we have decided to oust him, I know the results before it's counted. The new government is going to be very inclusive and have plenty of time. With almost zero opposition.
We will see a shift of somaliland diplomacy. Muse was warlike , and very straight forward. The new guy is a career diplomat, he talks less , he smile a lot. And he accomodates every one. Just like abiy pretended during his first 2 years in office. He is very unpredictable in my opinion.
No , they don't have the same level of commitment. Muse was very committed and was very able to implement it by himself. These guys have different approach their decision is very collective. They are less risk takers. And they have good relationship with almost every one . So yes they can decide to not proceed with the MoU, if the risk is too high.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2024, 04:56
Horus wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 23:35I was kind of sensing the same thing. Do you know the actual result or are you simply stating your preference? My other question is do both parties have same level commitment toward the MOU or do you think they will back out? I have no problem with whom Somalilanders choose for their president. My worry is all about the MOU.Jikaar wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 23:22Muse is not coming back. He failed to address some domestic issues , and we have decided to oust him, I know the results before it's counted. The new government is going to be very inclusive and have plenty of time. With almost zero opposition.
We will see a shift of somaliland diplomacy. Muse was warlike , and very straight forward. The new guy is a career diplomat, he talks less , he smile a lot. And he accomodates every one. Just like abiy pretended during his first 2 years in office. He is very unpredictable in my opinion.
I have no problem with whom Somalilanders choose for their president. My worry is all about the MOU.
You're a proof that one can live without a brain!