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Literal end time for Ethiopia is coming. Chaos, breakdown of law and order, will happen. Massive demonstrations in Addis and all over Ethiopia.
Abiy will flee the country. Ethiopia will hang on the rims of disintegration but US will avert it just before it hits the bottom of a pit.

During these times, its everyone for itself. Armed groups will grab cities, towns and fertile agricultural lands and lay claim on them. They will declare themselves masters on those who are not armed.

Gurage is blind-folded by its own irresponsible sons and daughters with secret motives in their pockets. We are being educated to continue to hate self-defence. We are being discouraged to stand for our community. We are being told to be more pacifist than Mahatma Gandhi.
Let's at least get together. Let's congregate to pray for Gurage together rather than individually. When they come to attack us, we will pray for their health and prosperity, with the hope that they will treat us with less severity.

Dama wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 11:33

Literal end time for Ethiopia is coming. Chaos, breakdown of law and order, will happen. Abiy will flee the country. Ethiopia will hang on the rims of disintegration but US will avert it just before it hits the bottom of a pit. During this time, its everyone for itself. Armed groups will grab cities, towns and fertile agricultural lands and lay claim on them. They will declare themselves masters on those who are not armed.

Gurage is blind-folded by its own irresponsible sons and daughters with secret motives in their pockets. We are being educated to continue to hate self-defence. We are being discouraged to stand for our community. We are being told to be more pacifist than Mahatma Gandhi.
Let's at least get together. Let's congregate to pray for Gurage together rather than individually.

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I am going to declare today I am the Halafi Mengedi of Gurage. The main problem for gurage is the deqalu north eastern gurage who feel benefiting much from oromuma and central gov; the corridor development that will come to (!) Butajira and another nearnby small cities ; they also think their business and religion is more important than their gurage identity. I am not sure but the muslims may feel descendants of Arabs (ቁረሽ) like silte and the christians more orthodox than orthodoxy more aligned to the northern ethiopian ethnics.
The geographic location of the gurage has been a disadvantage to their political life. When the Oromo expanded to ወለቃ/wellega, they effectively cut gurage to south again cutting it off the northern semite tribes. Now it is encircled by oromo and other ethnics getting isolated. The same way the hadiyas were also squeezed from their large past empire but never complain may be bs they self identify with Oroms as cushtic. Gurage will obviously will get marginalized and get extinct bs the youth will keep on migrating and neighboring ethnics including oromo will swallow its identity and land. Bs hosanna is the main city for the kilil now, gurage will start to do busines and integrate with Hadiya etc dilute its language and get permanently lost. The problem with the gurage elites is they feel belittled to talk about their identity and don’t want to unify its people whether under the Ethiopian umbrella or in a self reliant manner. That is why past things are gone and need to focus on current state of affairs to bring a change within.

Odie wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 12:14

Dama wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 11:33

Literal end time for Ethiopia is coming. Chaos, breakdown of law and order, will happen. Abiy will flee the country. Ethiopia will hang on the rims of disintegration but US will avert it just before it hits the bottom of a pit. During this time, its everyone for itself. Armed groups will grab cities, towns and fertile agricultural lands and lay claim on them. They will declare themselves masters on those who are not armed.

Gurage is blind-folded by its own irresponsible sons and daughters with secret motives in their pockets. We are being educated to continue to hate self-defence. We are being discouraged to stand for our community. We are being told to be more pacifist than Mahatma Gandhi.
Let's at least get together. Let's congregate to pray for Gurage together rather than individually.

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I am going to declare today I am the Halafi Mengedi of Gurage. The main problem for gurage is the deqalu north eastern gurage who feel benefiting much from oromuma and central gov; the corridor development that will come to (!) Butajira and another nearnby small cities ; they also think their business and religion is more important than their gurage identity. I am not sure but the muslims may feel descendants of Arabs (ቁረሽ) like silte and the christians more orthodox than orthodoxy more aligned to the northern ethiopian ethnics.
The geographic location of the gurage has been a disadvantage to their political life. When the Oromo expanded to ወለቃ/wellega, they effectively cut gurage to south again cutting it off the northern semite tribes. Now it is encircled by oromo and other ethnics getting isolated. The same way the hadiyas were also squeezed from their large past empire but never complain may be bs they self identify with Oroms as cushtic. Gurage will obviously will get marginalized and get extinct bs the youth will keep on migrating and neighboring ethnics including oromo will swallow its identity and land. Bs hosanna is the main city for the kilil now, gurage will start to do busines and integrate with Hadiya etc dilute its language and get permanently lost. The problem with the gurage elites is they feel belittled to talk about their identity and don’t want to unify its people whether under the Ethiopian umbrella or in a self reliant manner. That is why past things are gone and need to focus on current state of affairs to bring a change within.

If I may say this.
We can't start uniting Gurage while blaming the taboo political topics such as religions of Gurage because they are not that divide us. It's the organized forces such as the PP policies of Divide and Disunite, and the false narrative of Indivisible Ethiopia when you seek self-rule according to the principles of federalism, and as you said the bribery it doles out its cadres.

If I may say this.
We can't start uniting Gurage while blaming the taboo political topics such as religions of Gurage because they are not that divide us. It's the organized forces such as the PP policies of Divide and Disunite, and the false narrative of Indivisible Ethiopia when you seek self-rule according to the principles of federalism, and as you said the bribery it doles out its cadres.
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Dama

1. You are 7-bet and I have not herd to my knowledge northeasterners advocate about gurage identity except Horus who mostly popularizes gurage culture and development in this forum ( I know ጎጎት prisoners from 7-bet like the guy expelled by ቀጭቀጨ ብርሃኑ ነጋ from E-zema). You know in old days, when people spoke of pure gurage, it always ment 7-bet lol! ያበጠው ይፈንዳ!!
It feels like there is a kind of rift/devide may be in alignation bm northeastern and 7-bet ( may b you know more).
2. All gurage will have some sort of differences specially dialect and religion. As I said religion and dialect should not bar working on gurage unity. It should not be the issue in advancing major political issues

3. The Ethiopian national identity conundrum: we can do nothing about it. We were Ethiopians long long before, we were part of the building process, we are Ethiopians and we will stand on that. However gurage should stand against central government, directly or indirectly, actively or passively, that prohibits gurage from self administrative region, self realization, development, expression of cultural/language identity and unity. Gurage should fight the Abiy trap gurage is Ethiopian and does not need a region but can live anywhere as a slave. What I don’t advocate is kind of TPLF/OPDO/OLF/PP ethnic extremism.

ይቺ የደደቢት ዶማ ዳማ ወያኔ ትግሬ ጨርሳ እየለቀቀች!! አጎቷ የመለስ ቦርሳ ተሸካሚ ካሱ ኢላላ ሲኖር ወያኔ ሲሞት የደደቢት አፈር እንደ ሆነው!!

Pagan Horus
You don't need Abiy's bribery. We can raise billions in a week if you stop being obstacle to Gurage unity.

Dama wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 14:15

Pagan Horus
You don't need Abiy's bribery. We can raise billions in a week if you stop being obstacle to Gurage unity.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrGXdSFf/

አንተ ዶማ ሰሜን ምስራቅ ጉራጌ ብለው የነካካሃውኮ የጉራጌ ድንድ ነው ፈስ ወያኔ ደደቢት! አደብ ግዛ!

Horus wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 13:33

ይቺ የደደቢት ዶማ ዳማ ወያኔ ትግሬ ጨርሳ እየለቀቀች!! አጎቷ የመለስ ቦርሳ ተሸካሚ ካሱ ኢላላ ሲኖር ወያኔ ሲሞት የደደቢት አፈር እንደ ሆነው!!

Throw away such chimera, illusions of good and fulfilled life. Stop lying to yourself. Ethiopia knows the status and political situations of Gurage.

Agazi General wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 12:57

DON'T WORRY MY AGAZIAN AGAME AGENT. SIS-STAR. ZE GURAGAE WILL BE WELCOME 2 MIGRATE BACK 2 ZER ADI ABO IN GURA, AGAZIAN MEREB MILLASH LAND, IN WAT IS KNOWN AS ITALIAN ERITREA.

Before packing up for north, can we meet in Humera, Welkaet area..for self-defence equipment?

Odie,

You keep mentioning the geography of Gurage as being problematic for its political development. How?

Hosana, is the seat of the Central Region, in which Gurage is found. It was chosen by the dictator Abiy and his agents. It's closer than Hawasa but still far. I am not educated about the locations of service provision distribution offices such courts, education, healthcare, etc.

Each zone of the SNNPR had to pay 30% their annual income to develop Hawasa as the Capital of SNNPR. Abiy killed the demand raised by non-Sidama zones for Sidama to pay back the money they paid to develop Hawas when Sidama was granted Region status. Abiy Ahmed killed it. He told the zones demanding payback to shut up.

Gurage, that's now only Sebatbet/Welene, Mesqan, Silte, Sodo and Yem, will pay same to develop Hosana as Capital of Central Region. Just like in Hawasa case, Hosana will not paypack the financial contributions Gurage makes to develop it.

Dama wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2024, 18:53

Odie,

You keep mentioning the geography of Gurage as being problematic for its political development. How?

Hosana, is the seat of the Central Region, in which Gurage is found. It was chosen by the dictator Abiy and his agents. It's closer than Hawasa but still far. I am not educated about the locations of service provision distribution services such courts, education, healthcare, etc.

Each zone of the SNNPR has to pay 30% their annual income to develop Hawasa as the capital of SNNPR. Abiy killed the demand raised non-Sidama zones for Sidama to pay back the money they paid to develop Hawas when Sidama was granted Region status. Abiy Ahmed killed it. He told the zones demanding payback to shut up.

Gurage, that's now only Sebatbet/Welene, Mesqan, Silte, Sodo and Yem, will pay same to develop Hosana as Capital of Central Region. Just like in Hawasa case, Hosana will not paypack the financial contributions Gurage made to develop it.

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1. True, if gurage is not investing in wolkite and its rural areas it will remain vagrant/homeless slave to other ethnics. It will be taken hostage by whoever rules 4killo. Gurage should not have gone to hosanna. Hady are previlaged by Oromuma bs they develop at the expense of others as you said. Hadya by Oromuma calculation is a cush and beyene petros is the parrot of abiy so hadya gets the previlege. Remember this is by Oromuma reasoning a cush empire now while the semite idiots are slaves.

3. Northeast gurage may think they have a more developed business in butagira and other small cities, they might feel 7-bet will dominate and they won’t like wolkite grow. They are close to Oromuma ethnofascists and they think they are benefiting from corridor and pseudo development political agenda. I have not seen federal or regional glittering projects built in any of the 7-bet woredas or other peripheral parts of the country. They may grab sodo attention by pseudo-development arround Tiya-Tikil dingay and environs. Also the con-man may trap gurage business men like sunshine etc through its pseudo-investment projects and let them forgoe the prodicament of gurage region. Remember ቀጭቀጨ ብርሃኑ ነጋ and Abiy meeting with gurage business people to trap them astray. He knew gurage did not support TPLF. Remember the bluff by Eristu and the guy who was in USA embassy before sileshi now in canada? The smuggled conversation Tape? Oromuma wanting gurage support and prevent aligning with northerners?
Abiy killed the gurage killil agenda through gurage ሆዳሞች!

4. I said geography is against gurage simply bs gurage region is not like amhara where you have connection with outside world to smuggle anything. Although it can still b done to some extent. Also the land topography in the other regions has everything from dedebit like fortress to deserts where you can revolt and build base. Gibe is still good but not as good. I know gurage were strongly active at the time of EPRP even in rural places.
It is my opinion gurage to gain self respect, should stop being a housemaid to central government and grow balls to be a strong political animal.

Oromuma does scare me, basically. It's just an idea to unite the Oromo based on their core values. Gurage or any other ethnic groups have such core values that help create a bond among them. It's a culture thing. No worries as long as the political goal of Oromo political organizations and Gurage political organizations meet at the right of nations to self-determination in Ethiopia. Oromuma cancelled its desire to leave Ethiopia. It's now focused on dominating Ethiopian politics. Their next destination is to make Oromofaa the official language of Ethiopia. I think Birhanu Fuga said that it should be voted by the Ethiopian people. Strategically, politically organized Gurage organizations seeking a Gurage autonomy within Ethiopia will undoubtedly the oromo aspiration to the same goal.
Oromo has much closer ties with Sidama because both have politically organized armed groups other than EPRDF and PP branches. They help each with weapons and ideology.

Hadiya, Kembata, Halaba don't have organized political group. Oromo may only recognize them as Cushitic groups but who did not help it in its fight against Ethiopia. While these groups may seek fraternity with Oromo because it's one of the big players in Ethiopian politics but it will find no good reasons to pay rewards to them.

Sometimes, the services you offer by your work, business, as an unorganized and innocent person, may persuade you not to harm that person, if you have good conscience. I mean Gurages are everywhere in Oromo providing farm, business and professional services to oromos living next door.
Abiy, in defying the majority vote of 52 to 40 by Gurage Zone elected representatives, he declared it's was not the people's vote. He said it was the elites' vote. He organized Weredas officials to vote it down. Mesqan and Kistane weredas overwhelmingly rejected the Gurage Zone majority vote for a Gurage Region. And it's illegal. Unconstitutional, because Weredas cannot vote down items voted by Zone's representatives.

May be you have a military science background, I can't argue with you about which topography is good for war. You know better. But, I disagree that the Gurage geography is not suitable for war. How you would you explain the Gurage war of resistance against Menelick II from 1875-1889? 15 years of resistance. Some groups like Sidama were defeated in just 4 days.