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Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Dama » 07 Aug 2024, 20:22

Rough estimate of Amara and Gurage population in Oromia is as large as 15 million. Most of them born there, lived there for generations and speak Oromo language as first language or double first language, Oromoffa and Amharic/Gurage. Very many intermarried with Oromos. For generations, they did not go back to their places of origin in Amara or Gurage. By now, most are as indigenous as the migrant settlers from Borena claim they are locally-bred.

They are doctors, engineers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, farmer, business owners, and employees. They serve their local and broader community of Oromo with honesty and integrity. They pay their taxes.

But they cannot elect or be elected to a political office. Their kindergarten children are not allowed to learn Amharic and Guraginya.

But opposite to Oromo discrimination of non-Oromos are Amara and Gurage. Oromo group in Amara are allowed to educate their children in grades 1-4 all subjects in Oromoffa. Oromo individuals elect and get elected to political offices.

In Gurage , current Chief Administrator of the Gurage Zone is an Oromo from the romo group in Gurage. His predecessor was from the Cushitic minority who make less than 1% of the Gurage population. The past presidents of the SNNPR, Iritu Yirdaw was an Amara from the Amara group in Ethiopia and Gurage had Kasu Ilala from Sidama mother, who was born in Hawasa and never lived in Gurage.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Aug 2024, 20:38

Okay internet warrior go fight in oromia and try it then. Crying all day and night on an irrelevant forum online won't accomplish this.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Dama » 07 Aug 2024, 21:07

Learn to be good. Have a conscience and be moral. I don't see any fair reason why Oromia is this abhorrently racist. Remember, all evils are finally defeated like apartheid SA.
Just allow citizenship rights of Amaras and Gurages according to the Ethiopian Constitution of 1995.
This way you can minimize unnecessary losses. Don't wish war, you never know the outcome.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Somaliman » 07 Aug 2024, 21:44

Deport the savage animals back to Madagascar and done.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Odie » 07 Aug 2024, 21:54

Dama wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 20:22
Rough estimate of Amara and Gurage population in Oromia is as large as 15 million. Most of them born there, lived there for generations and speak Oromo language as first language or double first language, Oromoffa and Amharic/Gurage. Very many intermarried with Oromos. For generations, they did not go back to their places of origin in Amara or Gurage. By now, most are as indigenous as the migrant settlers from Borena claim they are locally-bred.

They are doctors, engineers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, farmer, business owners, and employees. They serve their local and broader community of Oromo with honesty and integrity. They pay their taxes.

But they cannot elect or be elected to a political office. Their kindergarten children are not allowed to learn Amharic and Guraginya.

But opposite to Oromo discrimination of non-Oromos are Amara and Gurage. Oromo group in Amara are allowed to educate their children in grades 1-4 all subjects in Oromoffa. Oromo individuals elect and get elected to political offices.

In Gurage , current Chief Administrator of the Gurage Zone is an Oromo from the romo group in Gurage. His predecessor was from the Cushitic minority who make less than 1% of the Gurage population. The past presidents of the SNNPR, Iritu Yirdaw was an Amara from the Amara group in Ethiopia and Gurage had Kasu Ilala from Sidama mother, who was born in Hawasa and never lived in Gurage.
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There was no Oromia in the history of HoA or Ethiopia. There was no kingdom of Oromos. Not even there was an Oromo ethnic. Everything is a late fabrication. There was Aksum, Abyssinian empire, Ethiopian Empire, Damot, Limmu Ennarea, shewa sultanate, Adal sultanate, Harla kingdom, yamma kingdom. But never Oromo kingdom. Oromia is coined by terrorist group and TPLF/EPLF to eviserate Ethiopia. Oromo is of colonial coined name. There has been a tribe that emigrated from keny deep into the Ethiopia killing and rampaging tribes and committing genocide even before genocide word was well known. The indigenous population failed to stand its ground and now they dare to call a half or more of the country Oromia which is a political and ideological location that must be dismembered instead of keeping as the source of misery for the rest the people of the region!

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Tiago » 07 Aug 2024, 21:57

Nothing redeeming whatsoever about these neanderthals.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Aug 2024, 22:08

Tigrayan brother dama and others,

All I see are internet warriors talking tough online but won't do anything in real-life. You want others to fight and die for your so called cause. Bunch of dudes gossiping like your women relatives over tea or coffee.
Oromia primarily belongs to the majority, the Oromo. Majority rules, minority rights. Just like Amara and Tigray primarily belong to them respectively. You want special rights in the lands of others while you yell "tigray for tegaru" and "amara for Amaras" and while your respective states would be up in arms, if say, some Muslim oromo, muslim somali, etc, moved to and opened up mosques, schools, businesses, in your region.
We all remember when ato Daniel kibret said about Muslims in gojjam. Imagine If a Muslim Ethiopian said that about Christians in Muslim majority jimma, or harar or jigjiga?!

Friendly reminder: ALL states are man-made. It's a man-made concept. They are not magically already in existence. They are created, usually through military campaigns. Or expansion and conquests. Ethiopia itself was created mostly through wars, arms supplied to its emperors by the west, in exchange for them being loyal puppets of the west, from yohannes to menelik to all of the leaders after them.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Odie » 07 Aug 2024, 22:59

Sadacha Macca wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 22:08
Tigrayan brother dama and others,

All I see are internet warriors talking tough online but won't do anything in real-life. You want others to fight and die for your so called cause. Bunch of dudes gossiping like your women relatives over tea or coffee.
Oromia primarily belongs to the majority, the Oromo. Majority rules, minority rights. Just like Amara and Tigray primarily belong to them respectively. You want special rights in the lands of others while you yell "tigray for tegaru" and "amara for Amaras" and while your respective states would be up in arms, if say, some Muslim oromo, muslim somali, etc, moved to and opened up mosques, schools, businesses, in your region.
We all remember when ato Daniel kibret said about Muslims in gojjam. Imagine If a Muslim Ethiopian said that about Christians in Muslim majority jimma, or harar or jigjiga?!

Friendly reminder: ALL states are man-made. It's a man-made concept. They are not magically already in existence. They are created, usually through military campaigns. Or expansion and conquests. Ethiopia itself was created mostly through wars, arms supplied to its emperors by the west, in exchange for them being loyal puppets of the west, from yohannes to menelik to all of the leaders after them.
…………
Oromo-silte hybrid is not expected to be a fruitful citizen.
Check history.NO OROMO but……no OROMIA in history.It is a fabrication.A generation is rising! Either you go back to where you immigrated or civilize!

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Aug 2024, 23:25

Odie wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 22:59
Sadacha Macca wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 22:08
Tigrayan brother dama and others,

All I see are internet warriors talking tough online but won't do anything in real-life. You want others to fight and die for your so called cause. Bunch of dudes gossiping like your women relatives over tea or coffee.
Oromia primarily belongs to the majority, the Oromo. Majority rules, minority rights. Just like Amara and Tigray primarily belong to them respectively. You want special rights in the lands of others while you yell "tigray for tegaru" and "amara for Amaras" and while your respective states would be up in arms, if say, some Muslim oromo, muslim somali, etc, moved to and opened up mosques, schools, businesses, in your region.
We all remember when ato Daniel kibret said about Muslims in gojjam. Imagine If a Muslim Ethiopian said that about Christians in Muslim majority jimma, or harar or jigjiga?!

Friendly reminder: ALL states are man-made. It's a man-made concept. They are not magically already in existence. They are created, usually through military campaigns. Or expansion and conquests. Ethiopia itself was created mostly through wars, arms supplied to its emperors by the west, in exchange for them being loyal puppets of the west, from yohannes to menelik to all of the leaders after them.
…………
Oromo-silte hybrid is not expected to be a fruitful citizen.
Check history.NO OROMO but……no OROMIA in history.It is a fabrication.A generation is rising! Either you go back to where you immigrated or civilize!
Ah yes. You discriminate against Oromos and Siltes yet cry that others do the same to your ethnicity. Hypocrisy at its finest indeed.
If one does not agree with your emotion based, nonsensical beliefs; they're not "fruitful citizens."
There was no ethiopia at one point too. No amara. No tigray. No oromo, etc. States are man-made concepts. Ethiopia as a state is a man-made concept, built through war and firearms given to them from Europe.
Some of those concepts are older than others, sure, if you would've said that, you'd be correct.
Yeah, you're just gonna talk tough online. You ain't gonna do nothing to the Oromos and neither are any of you cowards online.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Odie » 07 Aug 2024, 23:26

Orma/Oromo people as the german colonialists called them once are opportunists who invaded deep into Ethiopia following the atrocities of Gragn Ahmad. The same now, they took over 4 killo by accident or as opportunist during TpLF/ብአዴን infighting. What they do now is in killing and in robbing/detaining spree! These are people who traded in barter system who never knew banking, law, policing or regulations. They were herders who married their wives thro ellopment/ጠለፋ!
That is why the country became lawless.Ellopment of university young girls ever since they came into power, detention, robbing money…..from airport to banks…each of them in office acts as mafia boss or a gang and his turf.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Dama » 07 Aug 2024, 23:42

Sadacha Macca wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 22:08
Tigrayan brother dama and others,

All I see are internet warriors talking tough online but won't do anything in real-life. You want others to fight and die for your so called cause. Bunch of dudes gossiping like your women relatives over tea or coffee.
Oromia primarily belongs to the majority, the Oromo. Majority rules, minority rights. Just like Amara and Tigray primarily belong to them respectively. You want special rights in the lands of others while you yell "tigray for tegaru" and "amara for Amaras" and while your respective states would be up in arms, if say, some Muslim oromo, muslim somali, etc, moved to and opened up mosques, schools, businesses, in your region.
We all remember when ato Daniel kibret said about Muslims in gojjam. Imagine If a Muslim Ethiopian said that about Christians in Muslim majority jimma, or harar or jigjiga?!

Friendly reminder: ALL states are man-made. It's a man-made concept. They are not magically already in existence. They are created, usually through military campaigns. Or expansion and conquests. Ethiopia itself was created mostly through wars, arms supplied to its emperors by the west, in exchange for them being loyal puppets of the west, from yohannes to menelik to all of the leaders after them.
Sadach, you should read and understand what's written. Go back and re-read what I wrote. Did i anywhere deny that Oromo is not a majority in Oromia? I did not.
I thought it would appeal to your common sense unless you don't have, when I said racist majority oppression is abhorrent and usually has short life. Mentioned apartheid SA as an example.

In stark contrast to race or tribe-based oppression are examples of Amara and Gurage societies where everybody has the chance to flourish economically and politically based on merit. Repeat: A Gurage Amara ruled SNNPR. A 1% Kebana minority individual ruled Gurage. Now a Gurage oromo rules Gurage. Why? Gurage gives credit where it is due. Gurage is fair and just. You flourish based on your efforts. Merit, that is what I am talking about. Be open to goodness, brother.

I mentioned Oromos in Amara, now I remember even in Tigray, based on their merits, Oromo individuals held highest public offices. Their Amara and Tigray peers were not cruel racists. How could they? Their good deeds are there in front of them. Only racist oromo can trash merits. Not Gurage. Not Amara. Not even Tigray which has become to talk good about because of TPLF's infamous history.
I am not sure in Tigray, I am certain in Amara, Oromos in Amara region educate their children in Oromo language from Grades 1-4 by the Amara region expenses, as children of tax payers of Amara.

There is no reason other than racist oppression why Oromo cannot do same. It has to. Failure to be fair and just has a bloody cost.
Oromo doesn't want the combined grievances of Amara and Gurage. It will be ugly. Already is. You have a choice to minimize your losses.

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Re: Abolish Oromia because it's a racist region

Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Aug 2024, 23:52

Dama wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 23:42
Sadacha Macca wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 22:08
Tigrayan brother dama and others,

All I see are internet warriors talking tough online but won't do anything in real-life. You want others to fight and die for your so called cause. Bunch of dudes gossiping like your women relatives over tea or coffee.
Oromia primarily belongs to the majority, the Oromo. Majority rules, minority rights. Just like Amara and Tigray primarily belong to them respectively. You want special rights in the lands of others while you yell "tigray for tegaru" and "amara for Amaras" and while your respective states would be up in arms, if say, some Muslim oromo, muslim somali, etc, moved to and opened up mosques, schools, businesses, in your region.
We all remember when ato Daniel kibret said about Muslims in gojjam. Imagine If a Muslim Ethiopian said that about Christians in Muslim majority jimma, or harar or jigjiga?!

Friendly reminder: ALL states are man-made. It's a man-made concept. They are not magically already in existence. They are created, usually through military campaigns. Or expansion and conquests. Ethiopia itself was created mostly through wars, arms supplied to its emperors by the west, in exchange for them being loyal puppets of the west, from yohannes to menelik to all of the leaders after them.
Sadach, you should read and understand what's written. Go back and re-read what I wrote. Did i anywhere deny that Oromo is not a majority in Oromia? I did not.
I thought it would appeal to your common sense unless you don't have, when I said racist majority oppression is abhorrent and usually has short life. Mentioned apartheid SA as an example.

In stark contrast to race or tribe-based oppression are examples of Amara and Gurage societies where everybody has the chance to flourish economically and politically based on merit. Repeat: A Gurage Amara ruled SNNPR. A 1% Kebana minority individual ruled Gurage. Now a Gurage oromo rules Gurage. Why? Gurage gives credit where it is due. Gurage is fair and just. You flourish based on your efforts. Merit, that is what I am talking about. Be open to goodness, brother.

I mentioned Oromos in Amara, now I remember even in Tigray, based on their merits, Oromo individuals held highest public offices. Their Amara and Tigray peers were not cruel racists. How could they? Their good deeds are there in front of them. Only racist oromo can trash merits. Not Gurage. Not Amara. Not even Tigray which has become to talk good about because of TPLF's infamous history.
I am not sure in Tigray, I am certain in Amara, Oromos in Amara region educate their children in Oromo language from Grades 1-4 by the Amara region expenses, as children of tax payers of Amara.

There is no reason other than racist oppression why Oromo cannot do same. It has to. Failure to be fair and just has a bloody cost.
Oromo doesn't want the combined grievances of Amara and Gurage. It will be ugly. Already is. You have a choice to minimize your losses.
I understood you very well tigrayan sister eden aka dama.
This is your new agenda: provoke gurages to fight Oromos, which would result in a huge loss for gurages (not saying oromos wouldn't lose anything), hoping that gurages distract oromos enough to sneak your tplf uncles back into meneliks palace as they do the never ending circle gobez tigrayan dancing.
Yeah we saw how kind the majority in the North were to the tigrayans who were ethnically cleansed in welkait, and to the Agew burnt in their villages and the constant attacks on the oromia zone in amara state, the attack on Muslims in gojjam and gondar, the attack on Muslims in axum and much more.
Oh yeah yeah those are sure signs of tolerance and benevolence.

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