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If I was a leader of Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 14:40
by Dama
1. It's easy to learn
2. It's used by highly developed and international languages
3. Easier and cheaper to manufacture keyboards
4. Used by cushitic languages surrounding Gurage with which it share Grammer and lexicon
Re: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 15:17
by Horus
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 14:40
1. It's easy to learn
2. It's used by highly developed and international languages
3. Easier and cheaper to manufacture keyboards
4. Used by cushitic languages surrounding Gurage with which it share Grammer and lexicon
አንተ ዶማ፣
አሁን በትክክል ኦዴ የሚለውን እያመንኩኝ ነው ። አንተ የሆንክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ነህ! ይህን ቆሻሻ የደንቆሮ ዝተትክን ተሸክመህ ወደ ዘመዶችህ ውረድ አንት ማጅራት መቺ ጸረ ጉራጌ!
ጉራጌ እንቁ የሆኑ ጥንታዊ የሴም ቋንቋዎቹን ላቲንን ሺ ግዜ በሚበልጠው ኃያሉ ፊደል የራሱ ገበታ ቀርጾ እየጻፈና ሙሉ የስነ ጽሁፍ፣ ግጥም፣ ቅኔ፣ ሙዚቃ፣ ስዕል፣ ቅብና ሌሎችም የሥልጣኔ ትሩፋቶችን እያፈካ ፣እያለማ ፣እያበበ ነው ! አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ጉራጌ የግዕዝ ቋንቋ እየተናገረ እንዴት ጉራጌን ብትደፍር ነው ልሳኑን በግዕዝ ፊደል ሳይሆን ከግዕዝ በተኮረጀው ላቲን ይጻፍ እያልክ ዝምባም ክፍት አፍክት የምትከፍተው???? አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ልቃሚ ዘር የለሽ ልቅምቃሚ!!
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Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 15:29
by Horus
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 15:45
by Horus
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 15:54
by Horus
ዳማ የተባልክ ቅሻሻ ልቅምቃሚ ዶማ !! አንተ ብሎ ጉራጌን ደፋሪ ልቃሚ!!!
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 16:11
by Horus
Dama የምትባል ቅሻሻ ልቅምቃሚ ማጅራት መቺ ጉራጌን እንዴት ብትደርር ነው?!!
Re: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 16:13
by Odie
Horus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 15:17
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 14:40
1. It's easy to learn
2. It's used by highly developed and international languages
3. Easier and cheaper to manufacture keyboards
4. Used by cushitic languages surrounding Gurage with which it share Grammer and lexicon
አንተ ዶማ፣
አሁን በትክክል ኦዴ የሚለውን እያመንኩኝ ነው ። አንተ የሆንክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ነህ! ይህን ቆሻሻ የደንቆሮ ዝተትክን ተሸክመህ ወደ ዘመዶችህ ውረድ አንት ማጅራት መቺ ጸረ ጉራጌ!
ጉራጌ እንቁ የሆኑ ጥንታዊ የሴም ቋንቋዎቹን ላቲንን ሺ ግዜ በሚበልጠው ኃያሉ ፊደል የራሱ ገበታ ቀርጾ እየጻፈና ሙሉ የስነ ጽሁፍ፣ ግጥም፣ ቅኔ፣ ሙዚቃ፣ ስዕል፣ ቅብና ሌሎችም የሥልጣኔ ትሩፋቶችን እያፈካ ፣እያለማ ፣እያበበ ነው ! አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ጉራጌ የግዕዝ ቋንቋ እየተናገረ እንዴት ጉራጌን ብትደፍር ነው ልሳኑን በግዕዝ ፊደል ሳይሆን ከግዕዝ በተኮረጀው ላቲን ይጻፍ እያልክ ዝምባም ክፍት አፍክት የምትከፍተው???? አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ልቃሚ ዘር የለሽ ልቅምቃሚ!!
:lol:
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ይሄ ስውዬ ኦሮሙማ ሆኖ ወንድም ጀዋር ብለው ጀዋርን ሊያነግሱ ከሚፈልጉ ኦሮሙማ ደጋፊዎች አንዱ ነው ያልኩት ለዚህ ነው:: ወይ attention ፈልጎ ነው ወይ ደግሞ ለየለት!
ጉራጌ ላቲን ይጠቀም ማለቱ ትንሽ ቆይቶ ጉራጌ ኦሮሞ ነው ወይም ከሃዲያ ጋር አስን ኢንጀሞ ስላስተዳደረው እዚያ ይግባ ሊል ነው!
መለስ ዜናው መቃብር አይመችሁ:: ከፍተህ የለቀከው ጂኒ አገርና ትውልድን አበላሸቶ እስካሁን የሚያስረው አልተገኘም!!
የእኖር/ጌታ ቁጥር አጠራር
አት/እማት===1
ሁዌት/ውሬት==2
ሶስት/ሶኦስት===3
አርባት/አርቫት==4
አምስት/አምስት===5
ስድስት===6
ስቫት/ስአት==7
ስውት/ሱት==8
ዠጠ/ዢኧ==9
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 16:39
by Dama
Pagan Horus
You're such an emotional wreck. Worse off all, your are a racist in the order the most despicable group known as the KKK. Youre modern day reminder of the 19th century's embittered violent conquerer Menelick who insulted the Hadiya people as Gudella for resisting his war of annexation gallantly in a united front with Gurage. I know you're ashamed to say Gurage fought Menelick's cruel wars of 15 years to annex it. Stop creating hostilities between and among Ethiopian Groups.
My proposal to write Gurage in Latin scripts is based solely on the best interests of Gurage as I have listed the benefits of. It's not based on emotional attachment to history fake or not northern brothers(sic) who use it nor is it based on the fact that Gurage has more Geez root words than Amharic and Tigrinya.
This assertion, however, doesn't make Gurage the oldest of the Geez offsprings. It only implies that Gurage as a hybrid of Geez and indigenuous Cushitic/Omotic languages, Geez faced little resistance during its imposition on the indigenous languages, therefore retained dominance and much of itself. Geez faced tremendous resistance in birthing Amharic and Tigrinya by the politically powerful Agew groups who once ruled Abesha from their capitals Axum and Lalibela.
You can be sure that Gurage language is not older than 1300s. The Gurage language that we speak now did not exist in the north or Central Ethiopia prior to the 1300s.
All these is laboring on emotional stuff. The most beneficial things for Gurage are as I have listed.
More benefits of the Latin script may exist.Those who know are encouraged to list them.
Gurage, in further research, can justify its choice for Latin scripts, on the maliciousness of the abugida choice imposed on the ancient Axumites. They were coerced or the polite colonizer term is influenced by the Greeeks who had a de facto colonial power over them. It was to flatter the kingdom that it was unique, different from South Arabia and independent off even Greece itself, with its own writing system.
They modified the Sabean writing system which lacked vowels. They went to Southeast Asia. They borrowed the abugida vowel making attachments and applied them to the Sabean scripts, creating the Geez scripts.
They could have used the abjad vowel attachments, as Geez is the same semitic as Arabic, etc., not a Southeast Asian language.
The Arabs north of Yemen used abjad vowel making attachments in their scripts of alifbata.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2XW31VUnswgAs4c28
The struggle for Gurage continues!
Re: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 01 Aug 2024, 17:20
by Dama
Odie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:13
Horus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 15:17
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 14:40
1. It's easy to learn
2. It's used by highly developed and international languages
3. Easier and cheaper to manufacture keyboards
4. Used by cushitic languages surrounding Gurage with which it share Grammer and lexicon
አንተ ዶማ፣
አሁን በትክክል ኦዴ የሚለውን እያመንኩኝ ነው ። አንተ የሆንክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ነህ! ይህን ቆሻሻ የደንቆሮ ዝተትክን ተሸክመህ ወደ ዘመዶችህ ውረድ አንት ማጅራት መቺ ጸረ ጉራጌ!
ጉራጌ እንቁ የሆኑ ጥንታዊ የሴም ቋንቋዎቹን ላቲንን ሺ ግዜ በሚበልጠው ኃያሉ ፊደል የራሱ ገበታ ቀርጾ እየጻፈና ሙሉ የስነ ጽሁፍ፣ ግጥም፣ ቅኔ፣ ሙዚቃ፣ ስዕል፣ ቅብና ሌሎችም የሥልጣኔ ትሩፋቶችን እያፈካ ፣እያለማ ፣እያበበ ነው ! አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ጉራጌ የግዕዝ ቋንቋ እየተናገረ እንዴት ጉራጌን ብትደፍር ነው ልሳኑን በግዕዝ ፊደል ሳይሆን ከግዕዝ በተኮረጀው ላቲን ይጻፍ እያልክ ዝምባም ክፍት አፍክት የምትከፍተው???? አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ልቃሚ ዘር የለሽ ልቅምቃሚ!!
:lol:
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ይሄ ስውዬ ኦሮሙማ ሆኖ ወንድም ጀዋር ብለው ጀዋርን ሊያነግሱ ከሚፈልጉ ኦሮሙማ ደጋፊዎች አንዱ ነው ያልኩት ለዚህ ነው:: ወይ attention ፈልጎ ነው ወይ ደግሞ ለየለት!
ጉራጌ ላቲን ይጠቀም ማለቱ ትንሽ ቆይቶ ጉራጌ ኦሮሞ ነው ወይም ከሃዲያ ጋር አስን ኢንጀሞ ስላስተዳደረው እዚያ ይግባ ሊል ነው!
መለስ ዜናው መቃብር አይመችሁ:: ከፍተህ የለቀከው ጂኒ አገርና ትውልድን አበላሸቶ እስካሁን የሚያስረው አልተገኘም!!
የእኖር/ጌታ ቁጥር አጠራር
አት/እማት===1
ሁዌት/ውሬት==2
ሶስት/ሶኦስት===3
አርባት/አርቫት==4
አምስት/አምስት===5
ስድስት===6
ስቫት/ስአት==7
ስውት/ሱት==8
ዠጠ/ዢኧ==9
Odd,
I would like to share a view of a Gurage linguist who teaches semitic languages at Awasa University. His name Fekede Minuta. He is the author of the Gurage Fider. He is the latest creator of the attachments to write Gurage in Geez scripts. I hate him. I loathe him, because he rather creates dialect nationalism by refusing to work on common standardized Gurage.
However, there is a rare good view of his that also conflicts with his mission of creating attachments so that every dialect can write its own instead of a standard common Gurage.
He asks us to use only the word Gurage, but not specifying differences by saying Kistane Gurage, Sebatbet Gurage, Welene Gurage, etc.
He is saying this to further unity. Let's not dwell on regions and dialects. He says let's refer to us ourselves just as a Gurage.
I read his work today. Do the same. Try to know more about Gurage. You're losing your roots.
Re: If I was a leader of Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 00:09
by Horus
Odie,
ከአንድ እስከ አስር ቆጠራ በክስታኔ ጉራጌኛ፡
አት =1
ኪት =2
ሶስት = 3
አረት = 4
አምስት = 5
ስድስት =6
ሰባት = 7
ስምት =8
ዘጠኝ = 9
አስር = 10
ኩያ = 20
የሳምንት ቀናት፡
ኡጠት = ሰኞ
ኡጠት መናግ = ማክሰኞ
ኧሮብ = እሮብ፣ ረቡዕ
አሙስ = ሃሙስ
አዳረ = አርብ
ቅዳን ሰምበት (ቅዳም ሰንበት) = ቅዳሜ
ኡር ሰምበት (ኡር ሰንበት) = እሁድ
የቃል ትርጉም፡
ኡጠት = የጸሃይ መውጣ ፣ ዣኘት ንጋት እንደ ማለት ሆኖ የቀን መጀመሪያ እንደ ማለት ነው ።
ቅዳን ሰምበት = ቀዳሚ ሰንበት የድሮ የኦሪት ዘመን ሰባተኛ ቀን ፣ ሳባዝ የነበረ ነው ። አሁን አሁን ቀረ እንጂ አያቴ በሕይወት እያሉ ቅዳሜ ልክ እንደ እሁድ ነበር የሚከበረው
ኡር ሰምበት = ኡር ብርሃን ማለት ነው፣ ጸሃይ ማለት ነው ።
ሰምበት /ሰንበት = ሰባት ከሚለው 7ኛ ቀን የመጣ ነው ። እንደ ምታውቀው አንዳንድ ቃላት ለማንበብ ሲያስቸግሩ 'ነ' እንከትበታለን ። ለዚህ ነው 'ሰባት' በሚለው ውስጥ 'ነ' አስገብተን ሰንበት ያልነው ። ለምሳሌ እናንተ በሰባት ቤት 'ተንሳ' ለማለት እንደ ድሮው 'ተሳ' ነው የምትሉት ። እኛ ለማንበብ እንዲመች 'ነ' ከተንበት 'ተንሳ' እንላለን ። በቃ ይህ ነው የዲያሌክቶች ልዩነት ማለት ።
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 00:34
by Horus
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:39
Pagan Horus
You're such an emotional wreck. Worse off all, your are a racist in the order the most despicable group known as the KKK. Youre modern day reminder of the 19th century's embittered violent conquerer Menelick who insulted the Hadiya people as Gudella for resisting his war of annexation gallantly in a united front with Gurage. I know you're ashamed to say Gurage fought Menelick's cruel wars of 15 years to annex it. Stop creating hostilities between and among Ethiopian Groups.
My proposal to write Gurage in Latin scripts is based solely on the best interests of Gurage as I have listed the benefits of. It's not based on emotional attachment to history fake or not northern brothers(sic) who use it nor is it based on the fact that Gurage has more Geez root words than Amharic and Tigrinya.
This assertion, however, doesn't make Gurage the oldest of the Geez offsprings. It only implies that Gurage as a hybrid of Geez and indigenuous Cushitic/Omotic languages, it faced little resistance during its imposition on the indigenous languages, therefore retained dominance and much of itself. Geez faced tremendous resistance in birthing Amharic and Tigrinya by the politically powerful Agew groups who once ruled Abesha from their capitals Axum and Lalibela.
You can be sure that Gurage language is not older than 1300s. The Gurage language that we speak now did not exist in the north or Central Ethiopia prior to the 1300s.
All these is laboring on emotional stuff. The most benefitial things for Gurage are as I have listed.
More benefits of the Latin script may exist.Those who know are encouraged to list them.
Gurage, in further research, can justify its choice for Latin scripts, on the maliciousness of the abugida choice imposed on the ancient Axumites. They were coerced or the polite colonizer term is influenced by the Greeeks who had a de facto colonial power over them. It was to flatter the kingdom that it was unique, different from South Arabia and independent off even Greece itself, with its own writing system.
They modified the Sabean writing system which lacked vowels. They went to Southeast Asia. They borrowed the abugida vowel making ttachments and applied them to the Sabean scripts, creating the Geez scripts.
ዳማራ የተባልክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጥርቅሚ አንተ የጋልና ጉዴላ ዲቃላ ነህ ፣ያ መብትህ ነው። አሁን በርግጠኝነት በጉራጌ ታሪክ ፣ባህልና ሕይወት ውስጥ ቀይ መስመር እልፈህ ፋውል እየረገጥ ነው ። በ1300 አምደ ጽዮን ዳሞትን ሲወስድ ከጉራጌ ጋር በአማውቴ ስላደረገው ጦርነት እንዳንተ ያለ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ሊፍቀው አይችልም ። የጉራጌ ሴም ቋንቋ ጥንታዊነት ታላቁ ሊቅ Martin Bernal Black Athena (vol.3) አንብብ ። ጉራጌኛን አጠናን ያሉ ለብ ለቦች ከሲዳማ ምናምን ተቀላቀለ ያሉት ሁሉ ዉሸት ነው ።
አንተ ዉሸታም ወንድ ከሆንክ እዚህ ፎረም ላይ በጉራጌኛ ውስጥ ያሉ የሲዳማ ፣ ኦሮ ቅብጥርሴ 100 ቃላት ሊስት አድርግ! አትችልም ! ዉሸት ስለሆነ! የጉራጌን ዘር የዛሬ 500 አመት ማጥፋት አልቻልክም ፣ ዛሬ እንዳንተ ያለ ዝምብ ይህን ቢሞከር ጥንጀሮ ትስቃለች።
They could have used the abjad vowel attachments, as Geez is the same semitic, not Southeast Asian language.
The Arabs north of Yemen used abjad vowel making attachments in their scripts of alifbata.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2XW31VUnswgAs4c28
The struggle for Gurage continues!
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 01:06
by Dama
Horus wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 00:34
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:39
Pagan Horus
You're such an emotional wreck. Worse off all, your are a racist in the order the most despicable group known as the KKK. Youre modern day reminder of the 19th century's embittered violent conquerer Menelick who insulted the Hadiya people as Gudella for resisting his war of annexation gallantly in a united front with Gurage. I know you're ashamed to say Gurage fought Menelick's cruel wars of 15 years to annex it. Stop creating hostilities between and among Ethiopian Groups.
My proposal to write Gurage in Latin scripts is based solely on the best interests of Gurage as I have listed the benefits of. It's not based on emotional attachment to history fake or not northern brothers(sic) who use it nor is it based on the fact that Gurage has more Geez root words than Amharic and Tigrinya.
This assertion, however, doesn't make Gurage the oldest of the Geez offsprings. It only implies that Gurage as a hybrid of Geez and indigenuous Cushitic/Omotic languages, it faced little resistance during its imposition on the indigenous languages, therefore retained dominance and much of itself. Geez faced tremendous resistance in birthing Amharic and Tigrinya by the politically powerful Agew groups who once ruled Abesha from their capitals Axum and Lalibela.
You can be sure that Gurage language is not older than 1300s. The Gurage language that we speak now did not exist in the north or Central Ethiopia prior to the 1300s.
All these is laboring on emotional stuff. The most benefitial things for Gurage are as I have listed.
More benefits of the Latin script may exist.Those who know are encouraged to list them.
Gurage, in further research, can justify its choice for Latin scripts, on the maliciousness of the abugida choice imposed on the ancient Axumites. They were coerced or the polite colonizer term is influenced by the Greeeks who had a de facto colonial power over them. It was to flatter the kingdom that it was unique, different from South Arabia and independent off even Greece itself, with its own writing system.
They modified the Sabean writing system which lacked vowels. They went to Southeast Asia. They borrowed the abugida vowel making ttachments and applied them to the Sabean scripts, creating the Geez scripts.
ዳማራ የተባልክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጥርቅሚ አንተ የጋልና ጉዴላ ዲቃላ ነህ ፣ያ መብትህ ነው። አሁን በርግጠኝነት በጉራጌ ታሪክ ፣ባህልና ሕይወት ውስጥ ቀይ መስመር እልፈህ ፋውል እየረገጥ ነው ። በ1300 አምደ ጽዮን ዳሞትን ሲወስድ ከጉራጌ ጋር በአማውቴ ስላደረገው ጦርነት እንዳንተ ያለ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ሊፍቀው አይችልም ። የጉራጌ ሴም ቋንቋ ጥንታዊነት ታላቁ ሊቅ Martin Bernal Black Athena (vol.3) አንብብ ። ጉራጌኛን አጠናን ያሉ ለብ ለቦች ከሲዳማ ምናምን ተቀላቀለ ያሉት ሁሉ ዉሸት ነው ።
አንተ ዉሸታም ወንድ ከሆንክ እዚህ ፎረም ላይ በጉራጌኛ ውስጥ ያሉ የሲዳማ ፣ ኦሮ ቅብጥርሴ 100 ቃላት ሊስት አድርግ! አትችልም ! ዉሸት ስለሆነ! የጉራጌን ዘር የዛሬ 500 አመት ማጥፋት አልቻልክም ፣ ዛሬ እንዳንተ ያለ ዝምብ ይህን ቢሞከር ጥንጀሮ ትስቃለች።
They could have used the abjad vowel attachments, as Geez is the same semitic, not Southeast Asian language.
The Arabs north of Yemen used abjad vowel making attachments in their scripts of alifbata.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2XW31VUnswgAs4c28
The struggle for Gurage continues!
Dumb ahiya Porus
You [deleted] vitriols thru your mouth and arse. Hold it
I have read martin Bernal's Black Athena volumes. He did not prove you right. State the page in Vol.3. I could not miss anything on Gurage, you [deleted] of the Gallas! He agreed with other historical linguists who concluded that ancient Egyptians spoke a Cushitic language whose origin was southeast Ethiopia, pointing to an area near Dire dawa.
Gurage is not birthed by Sidam language and Geez. Sidama languages is no more used. It's old, rotten old like yourself.
Earlier linguists used the word Sidama to describe Highland East Cushitic languages such as Kembata and Hadiya, and their smaller dialects such as Mareqo and Kebena. Gurage has a shared grammar and vocabulary. It's born out of Geez and these Highland West Cushitic languages.
[deleted]!
Adeb bel!
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 02:00
by Horus
Dama wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 01:06
Horus wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 00:34
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:39
Pagan Horus
You're such an emotional wreck. Worse off all, your are a racist in the order the most despicable group known as the KKK. Youre modern day reminder of the 19th century's embittered violent conquerer Menelick who insulted the Hadiya people as Gudella for resisting his war of annexation gallantly in a united front with Gurage. I know you're ashamed to say Gurage fought Menelick's cruel wars of 15 years to annex it. Stop creating hostilities between and among Ethiopian Groups.
My proposal to write Gurage in Latin scripts is based solely on the best interests of Gurage as I have listed the benefits of. It's not based on emotional attachment to history fake or not northern brothers(sic) who use it nor is it based on the fact that Gurage has more Geez root words than Amharic and Tigrinya.
This assertion, however, doesn't make Gurage the oldest of the Geez offsprings. It only implies that Gurage as a hybrid of Geez and indigenuous Cushitic/Omotic languages, it faced little resistance during its imposition on the indigenous languages, therefore retained dominance and much of itself. Geez faced tremendous resistance in birthing Amharic and Tigrinya by the politically powerful Agew groups who once ruled Abesha from their capitals Axum and Lalibela.
You can be sure that Gurage language is not older than 1300s. The Gurage language that we speak now did not exist in the north or Central Ethiopia prior to the 1300s.
All these is laboring on emotional stuff. The most benefitial things for Gurage are as I have listed.
More benefits of the Latin script may exist.Those who know are encouraged to list them.
Gurage, in further research, can justify its choice for Latin scripts, on the maliciousness of the abugida choice imposed on the ancient Axumites. They were coerced or the polite colonizer term is influenced by the Greeeks who had a de facto colonial power over them. It was to flatter the kingdom that it was unique, different from South Arabia and independent off even Greece itself, with its own writing system.
They modified the Sabean writing system which lacked vowels. They went to Southeast Asia. They borrowed the abugida vowel making ttachments and applied them to the Sabean scripts, creating the Geez scripts.
ዳማራ የተባልክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጥርቅሚ አንተ የጋልና ጉዴላ ዲቃላ ነህ ፣ያ መብትህ ነው። አሁን በርግጠኝነት በጉራጌ ታሪክ ፣ባህልና ሕይወት ውስጥ ቀይ መስመር እልፈህ ፋውል እየረገጥ ነው ። በ1300 አምደ ጽዮን ዳሞትን ሲወስድ ከጉራጌ ጋር በአማውቴ ስላደረገው ጦርነት እንዳንተ ያለ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ሊፍቀው አይችልም ። የጉራጌ ሴም ቋንቋ ጥንታዊነት ታላቁ ሊቅ Martin Bernal Black Athena (vol.3) አንብብ ። ጉራጌኛን አጠናን ያሉ ለብ ለቦች ከሲዳማ ምናምን ተቀላቀለ ያሉት ሁሉ ዉሸት ነው ።
አንተ ዉሸታም ወንድ ከሆንክ እዚህ ፎረም ላይ በጉራጌኛ ውስጥ ያሉ የሲዳማ ፣ ኦሮ ቅብጥርሴ 100 ቃላት ሊስት አድርግ! አትችልም ! ዉሸት ስለሆነ! የጉራጌን ዘር የዛሬ 500 አመት ማጥፋት አልቻልክም ፣ ዛሬ እንዳንተ ያለ ዝምብ ይህን ቢሞከር ጥንጀሮ ትስቃለች።
They could have used the abjad vowel attachments, as Geez is the same semitic, not Southeast Asian language.
The Arabs north of Yemen used abjad vowel making attachments in their scripts of alifbata.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2XW31VUnswgAs4c28
The struggle for Gurage continues!
Dumb ahiya Porus
You [deleted] vitriols thru your mouth and arse. Hold it
I have read martin Bernal's Black Athena volumes. He did not prove you right. State the page in Vol.3. I could not miss anything on Gurage, you [deleted] of the Gallas! He agreed with other historical linguists who concluded that ancient Egyptians spoke a Cushitic language whose origin was southeast Ethiopia, pointing to an area near Dire dawa.
Gurage is not birthed by Sidam language and Geez. Sidama languages is no more used. It's old, rotten old like yourself.
Earlier linguists used the word Sidama to describe Highland West Cushitic languages such as Kembata and Hadiya, and their smaller dialects such as Mareqo and Kebena. Gurage has a shared grammar and vocabulary. It's born out of Geez and these Highland West Cushitic languages.
[deleted]!
Adeb bel!
አንተ [deleted] ጸረ ጉራጌ የጉራጌኛ ቋንቋ ከኦሞቲች ምናምን ተደባለቀ ብለህ የለ? አሁን ጠይቄሃለሁ ሊስት አድርግ ቢያንስ 100 ኦሞቲክ ቃላት ጉዴላ ማጂራት መቺ! እፍኝ የማትሞላ ቀቤና ማረቆ ምትባል ጉዴላ ለምን ከጉራጌ ተላቅቀህ ገደል አትገባል! ባለጌ ጸረ ጉራጌ!
Re: If I was a leader Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 02:31
by Dama
Dama wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 01:06
Horus wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 00:34
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:39
Pagan Horus
You're such an emotional wreck. Worse off all, your are a racist in the order the most despicable group known as the KKK. Youre modern day reminder of the 19th century's embittered violent conquerer Menelick who insulted the Hadiya people as Gudella for resisting his war of annexation gallantly in a united front with Gurage. I know you're ashamed to say Gurage fought Menelick's cruel wars of 15 years to annex it. Stop creating hostilities between and among Ethiopian Groups.
My proposal to write Gurage in Latin scripts is based solely on the best interests of Gurage as I have listed the benefits of. It's not based on emotional attachment to history fake or not northern brothers(sic) who use it nor is it based on the fact that Gurage has more Geez root words than Amharic and Tigrinya.
This assertion, however, doesn't make Gurage the oldest of the Geez offsprings. It only implies that Gurage as a hybrid of Geez and indigenuous Cushitic/Omotic languages, it faced little resistance during its imposition on the indigenous languages, therefore retained dominance and much of itself. Geez faced tremendous resistance in birthing Amharic and Tigrinya by the politically powerful Agew groups who once ruled Abesha from their capitals Axum and Lalibela.
You can be sure that Gurage language is not older than 1300s. The Gurage language that we speak now did not exist in the north or Central Ethiopia prior to the 1300s.
All these is laboring on emotional stuff. The most benefitial things for Gurage are as I have listed.
More benefits of the Latin script may exist.Those who know are encouraged to list them.
Gurage, in further research, can justify its choice for Latin scripts, on the maliciousness of the abugida choice imposed on the ancient Axumites. They were coerced or the polite colonizer term is influenced by the Greeeks who had a de facto colonial power over them. It was to flatter the kingdom that it was unique, different from South Arabia and independent off even Greece itself, with its own writing system.
They modified the Sabean writing system which lacked vowels. They went to Southeast Asia. They borrowed the abugida vowel making at3fdtachments and applied them to the Sabean scripts, creating the Geez scripts.
ዳማራ የተባልክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጥርቅሚ አንተ የጋልና ጉዴላ ዲቃላ ነህ ፣ያ መብትህ ነው። አሁን በርግጠኝነት በጉራጌ ታሪክ ፣ባህልና ሕይወት ውስጥ ቀይ መስመር እልፈህ ፋውል እየረገጥ ነው ። በ1300 አምደ ጽዮን ዳሞትን ሲወስድ ከጉራጌ ጋር በአማውቴ ስላደረገው ጦርነት እንዳንተ ያለ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ሊፍቀው አይችልም ። የጉራጌ ሴም ቋንቋ ጥንታዊነት ታላቁ ሊቅ Martin Bernal Black Athena (vol.3) አንብብ ። ጉራጌኛን አጠናን ያሉ ለብ ለቦች ከሲዳማ ምናምን ተቀላቀለ ያሉት ሁሉ ዉሸት ነው ።
አንተ ዉሸታም ወንድ ከሆንክ እዚህ ፎረም ላይ በጉራጌኛ ውስጥ ያሉ የሲዳማ ፣ ኦሮ ቅብጥርሴ 100 ቃላት ሊስት አድርግ! አትችልም ! ዉሸት ስለሆነ! የጉራጌን ዘር የዛሬ 500 አመት ማጥፋት አልቻልክም ፣ ዛሬ እንዳንተ ያለ ዝምብ ይህን ቢሞከር ጥንጀሮ ትስቃለች።
They could have used the abjad vowel attachments, as Geez is the same semitic, not Southeast Asian language.
The Arabs north of Yemen used abjad vowel making attachments in their scripts of alifbata.
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The struggle for Gurage continues!
Dumb ahiya Porus
You [deleted] vitriols thru your mouth and arse. Hold it
I have read martin Bernal's Black Athena volumes. He did not prove you right. State the page in Vol.3. I could not miss anything on Gurage, you [deleted] of the Gallas! He agreed with other historical linguists who concluded that ancient Egyptians spoke a Cushitic language whose origin was southeast Ethiopia, pointing to an area near Dire dawa.
Gurage is not birthed by Sidam language and Geez. Sidama languages is no more used. It's old, rotten old like yourself.
Earlier linguists used the word Sidama to describe Highland West Cushitic languages such as Kembata and Hadiya, and their smaller dialects such as Mareqo and Kebena. Gurage has a shared grammar and vocabulary. It's born out of Geez and these Highland West Cushitic languages.
[deleted]!
Adeb bel!
Ignorant ahiya!
A stupid gheto scoundrel
Re: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 07:31
by Odie
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 17:20
Odie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 16:13
Horus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 15:17
Dama wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 14:40
1. It's easy to learn
2. It's used by highly developed and international languages
3. Easier and cheaper to manufacture keyboards
4. Used by cushitic languages surrounding Gurage with which it share Grammer and lexicon
አንተ ዶማ፣
አሁን በትክክል ኦዴ የሚለውን እያመንኩኝ ነው ። አንተ የሆንክ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ ነህ! ይህን ቆሻሻ የደንቆሮ ዝተትክን ተሸክመህ ወደ ዘመዶችህ ውረድ አንት ማጅራት መቺ ጸረ ጉራጌ!
ጉራጌ እንቁ የሆኑ ጥንታዊ የሴም ቋንቋዎቹን ላቲንን ሺ ግዜ በሚበልጠው ኃያሉ ፊደል የራሱ ገበታ ቀርጾ እየጻፈና ሙሉ የስነ ጽሁፍ፣ ግጥም፣ ቅኔ፣ ሙዚቃ፣ ስዕል፣ ቅብና ሌሎችም የሥልጣኔ ትሩፋቶችን እያፈካ ፣እያለማ ፣እያበበ ነው ! አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ጉዴላ! ጉራጌ የግዕዝ ቋንቋ እየተናገረ እንዴት ጉራጌን ብትደፍር ነው ልሳኑን በግዕዝ ፊደል ሳይሆን ከግዕዝ በተኮረጀው ላቲን ይጻፍ እያልክ ዝምባም ክፍት አፍክት የምትከፍተው???? አንተ ጸረ ጉራጌ ልቃሚ ዘር የለሽ ልቅምቃሚ!!
:lol:
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ይሄ ስውዬ ኦሮሙማ ሆኖ ወንድም ጀዋር ብለው ጀዋርን ሊያነግሱ ከሚፈልጉ ኦሮሙማ ደጋፊዎች አንዱ ነው ያልኩት ለዚህ ነው:: ወይ attention ፈልጎ ነው ወይ ደግሞ ለየለት!
ጉራጌ ላቲን ይጠቀም ማለቱ ትንሽ ቆይቶ ጉራጌ ኦሮሞ ነው ወይም ከሃዲያ ጋር አስን ኢንጀሞ ስላስተዳደረው እዚያ ይግባ ሊል ነው!
መለስ ዜናው መቃብር አይመችሁ:: ከፍተህ የለቀከው ጂኒ አገርና ትውልድን አበላሸቶ እስካሁን የሚያስረው አልተገኘም!!
የእኖር/ጌታ ቁጥር አጠራር
አት/እማት===1
ሁዌት/ውሬት==2
ሶስት/ሶኦስት===3
አርባት/አርቫት==4
አምስት/አምስት===5
ስድስት===6
ስቫት/ስአት==7
ስውት/ሱት==8
ዠጠ/ዢኧ==9
Odd,
I would like to share a view of a Gurage linguist who teaches semitic languages at Awasa University. His name Fekede Minuta. He is the author of the Gurage Fider. He is the latest creator of the attachments to write Gurage in Geez scripts. I hate him. I loathe him, because he rather creates dialect nationalism by refusing to work on common standardized Gurage.
However, there is a rare good view of his that also conflicts with his mission of creating attachments so that every dialect can write its own instead of a standard common Gurage.
He asks us to use only the word Gurage, but not specifying differences by saying Kistane Gurage, Sebatbet Gurage, Welene Gurage, etc.
He is saying this to further unity. Let's not dwell on regions and dialects. He says let's refer to us ourselves just as a Gurage.
I read his work today. Do the same. Try to know more about Gurage. You're losing your roots.
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አንዳንዴ ጉራጌነትህን እቀበለዋለሁ ስለ ስባት ቤት ብዙ ስለምታውቅ:: ግን አስተሳሰብህ የአክራሪ እስላምና የወያኔ/OPDO አይነት ይሆንብኛል:: አሁንየጉራጌ ፊደል ላቲን ይሁን ስትል በጣም አስደነገጥከኝ:: ጉራጊኛ ቃላት ሳይቀር ከግእዝ ቋንቋዎች የሚወራረስ ነው:: ከእስልምናህ የተነሳ ለክርስቲያኑ North ቂም ያለህ ትመስላለህ:: I don’t like that. አሁን ገዢህ ኦሮሞ ሆኖ ወደነሱ መንከባለል የምትፈልግ ትመስላለህ እስላም ስለሚበዛቸው:: እስልምናህን ለግልህ አድርገህ ቢያንስ እንደ ጉራጌና ኢትዮዽያዊ አስብ::
Can you post Fekede Minuta’s book titles?
His name sounds Inor!
Re: If I was a leader of Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 10:01
by Dama
Odd,
I have accused you of trying to block and censor re-reportng and raising awareness of the danger of violence against Gurage Muslims by organized and well-funded secret Gurage Christian extremist cells. I have explained to you that my effort was in the furtherance of justice and unity of Gurage. I have explained to you that because a perception of exists in Gurage of Christian extremism, it has to be dealt with. Brought to open and public discussion using criminal violent occurrences. Gurage groups that are overwhelmingly Muslim are breaking away to avoid persecution and conflict. Silte broke away. kebenea is fighting a bloody war against Gurage.
I have explained that Gurage unity must be held above and beyond religious differences. And to do this, incidences of Christian violence on Gurage Muslims and their properties should be condemned by Gurage officials and media. ER here is media. I told you that what I was doing.
It looks no amount explanation would persuade you to flinch from protecting Christian extremist crimes on Gurage Muslims. Even though you know Christian extremist violence on Gurage Muslims and their properties is a crime and breaker of Gurage unity, you don't mind it all.
Honestly, you are a very bad person. You're no good for Gurage. For that matter for any society as you uphold crimes against innocent humanity because of their religions.You will end up committing crimes yourself against Gurage Muslims if you can believe you will get away free. Trust me you will pay for it as those who committed the above crimes are paying for it in prison and financial restitution to pay for the psychological damages they caused on the general Gurage public and the properties they destroyed.
I can't spoon-feed you. Go search Fekede!
You wash a donkey clean only to find it roll on dirt seconds later. That's what you're. A donkey!
Re: If I was a leader of Gurage, Tigrays will hate me: Latin alphabets for Gurage
Posted: 02 Aug 2024, 19:10
by Dama
It happens. It's a matter of choice. The question is whether changes we make for ourselves are beneficial economically, linguistically/culturally, politically and socially.
Also, there is nothing Gurage will lose. our history is carved on a marble Geez scripts. We have built not an empire that we taught in Geez scripts. We have not recorded our discoveries in science and technology in Geez. We have not made use of Geez to write Gurage and its dialects. It's a script we look while Amara and Tigray full use of. There is nothing Gurage will lose by adopting the latin scripts and dumping Geez that exists hanging useless, unused but loved, at the back head of few culturally dislocated idiots.
Adoption of Latin scripts, its benefits and its initial costs, of course, should be studied and debated, not emotionally but objectively, with the interest of the Gurage nation at heart, joining the wider world of Africa and beyond.
I will name nations that opted for new scripts and scrapping the old.