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Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 12:17
by Dama
The degree of hatred by Ethiopia toward Gurages warrants exit from it. Why is it that this option is never considered?
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 12:49
by Wordpad
Gurage have lost all their land to Oromo so how can they exit Ethiopia?
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 12:59
by Right
That option has never been explored because it means extinction.
With all the bluster, the smaller ethnic groups be it Tigray, Sidama, Gurage etc are nothing but dust without Ethiopia.
Only in the context of Ethiopia that the smaller ethnic groups thrive.
Only the Amaharas and the Oromos to a degree can go it alone and succeed.
The Guraghies should be grateful that they have a wiser and gentler ethnic group (the Amharas) in Ethiopia are on the union side.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 13:24
by Dama
Dama wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 12:17
The degree of hatred by Ethiopia toward Gurages warrants exit from it. Why is it that this option is never considered?
The vehicle, the mechanism of land lose from Gurage is part of Ethiopia's persecution of Gurage that it should fight Ethiopia against it.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 13:32
by Dama
Right wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 12:59
That option has never been explored because it means extinction.
With all the bluster, the smaller ethnic groups be it Tigray, Sidama, Gurage etc are nothing but dust without Ethiopia.
Only in the context of Ethiopia that the smaller ethnic groups thrive.
Only the Amaharas and the Oromos to a degree can go it alone and succeed.
The Guraghies should be grateful that they have a wiser and gentler ethnic group (the Amharas) in Ethiopia are on the union side.
Gurage will not fight Amara, Oromo or any other tribe. Gurage's persecutor is the Ethiopian gov that Gurage should fight against its oppression.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 14:40
by Horus
ከባለቤቱ ያወቀ ቡዳ አሉ! እስቲ ይመቻችሁ!! ጉራጌ የራሱን ሃሳብ የሚያስብበት የራሱ አንጎል አለው! በከንቱ አትልፉ!
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 15:43
by Right
Dama a.k.a. Horus,
The degree of hatred by Ethiopia toward Gurages warrants exit from it. Why is it that this option is never considered?
You are the one who asked a question about exit and we answered your question.
Otherwise nobody cares for a tiny tribe who is parasitically riding on the Ethiopian horse.
Everybody knows who fought and protected the country for others to live in peace. And we know who dodged the fight for Ethiopia’ s territorial integrity and we know who dodged paying taxes.
Please exit if that is your wish. Believe me Ethiopians will not fight you. Anyways the current government you guys are supporting may have a plan for you.
All we say is adios and good luck.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 15:56
by Odie
Right wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 15:43
Dama a.k.a. Horus,
The degree of hatred by Ethiopia toward Gurages warrants exit from it. Why is it that this option is never considered?
You are the one who asked a question about exit and we answered your question.
Otherwise nobody cares for a tiny tribe who is parasitically riding on the Ethiopian horse.
Everybody knows who fought and protected the country for others to live in peace. And we know who dodged the fight for Ethiopia’ s territorial integrity and we know who dodged paying taxes.
Please exit if that is your wish. Believe me Ethiopians will not fight you. Anyways the current government you guys are supporting may have a plan for you.
All we say is adios and good luck.
Although I beg to differ in opinion with Dama, your chauvinistic and condescending attitude serves no body.
You think Gurage should be your slave and would not exist without piggybacking you? You guys know how to multiply enemies real time!
Ridiculous!
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 16:36
by Dama
Right wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 15:43
Dama a.k.a. Horus,
The degree of hatred by Ethiopia toward Gurages warrants exit from it. Why is it that this option is never considered?
You are the one who asked a question about exit and we answered your question.
Otherwise nobody cares for a tiny tribe who is parasitically riding on the Ethiopian horse.
Everybody knows who fought and protected the country for others to live in peace. And we know who dodged the fight for Ethiopia’ s territorial integrity and we know who dodged paying taxes.
Please exit if that is your wish. Believe me Ethiopians will not fight you. Anyways the current government you guys are supporting may have a plan for you.
All we say is adios and good luck.
Such depth of hate for Gurage, you're just the tip of the iceberg. This phenomenon is exactly what Gurage should use as catalyst for independence.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 16:46
by Right
Gurage has never been a slave to anyone in Ethiopia. You are not only ungrateful but you are opportunistic to try to knife the Amharas when they are vulnerable.
Slave? How ungrateful you are for those Ethiopians who sacrificed their life for peace and stability in Ethiopia so that people like can do whatever they want before the Weyannies and PP came in.
Exit if that is your prerogative. Support PP all you want. Ethiopians will be able to defend themselves and FANO will fight for the rights of all Ethiopians including the Guraghies who want to remain in the union.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 17:32
by Dama
Right wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 16:46
Gurage has never been a slave to anyone in Ethiopia. You are not only ungrateful but you are opportunistic to try to knife the Amharas when they are vulnerable.
Slave? How ungrateful you are for those Ethiopians who sacrificed their life for peace and stability in Ethiopia so that people like can do whatever they want before the Weyannies and PP came in.
Exit if that is your prerogative. Support PP all you want. Ethiopians will be able to defend themselves and FANO will fight for the rights of all Ethiopians including the Guraghies who want to remain in the union.
Cry Amara. Racist
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 18:57
by Odie
Right wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 16:46
Gurage has never been a slave to anyone in Ethiopia. You are not only ungrateful but you are opportunistic to try to knife the Amharas when they are vulnerable.
Slave? How ungrateful you are for those Ethiopians who sacrificed their life for peace and stability in Ethiopia so that people like can do whatever they want before the Weyannies and PP came in.
Exit if that is your prerogative. Support PP all you want. Ethiopians will be able to defend themselves and FANO will fight for the rights of all Ethiopians including the Guraghies who want to remain in the union.
Listen!
Dama is a single person with a motive. You may direct your anger to him if he offended you with his post. He may belong to a splinter group with agenda or just trying to push an agenda he thinks is a gurage issue. The way he approaches it I don’t personally agree. However calling the whole gurage names bs of individual opinion where that person may not have a decision making capacity is overgeneralization & like throwing out the baby with the bath water. Some of the gurages have been fighting alongside the Amara cause tooth and nail whichever way they can. You are a single person and no body should generalize what you say to any group of ethnic Amhara or Fano. You should be responsible to defend your idea. That is a more civilized way of discussion. Calling a whole ethnic gurage a parasite is an insult to everybody and that also easily exposes the depth the maturity of your talk. This is a sensitive time all of us who want to save the country need to be careful. Those with breakaway plan of course can walk the same road TPLF/OLF walked bashing everybody on their way and with a feeling of supermacy.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 20:04
by Dama
Horus wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 14:40
ከባለቤቱ ያወቀ ቡዳ አሉ! እስቲ ይመቻችሁ!! ጉራጌ የራሱን ሃሳብ የሚያስብበት የራሱ አንጎል አለው! በከንቱ አትልፉ!
Gurage suffered a lot; silence and indifference only add to more Gurage suffering.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 21:09
by Dama
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 10:08
by Dama
Odie and Horus, my Gurage brothers
Let us acknowledge each other.
Horus is from Aymellel, speaks and writes now known as the Sodo dialect of Gurage; Odie is from Innor which the neftenyas called Ennemor, and am from Chaha Gurage. Lets stop denying citizenship or membership of Gurage. It's not the right thing to do legally or morally.
Quotes of the day
"የኢትዮዽያዊያን ምንጭ ለጉራጌ ካልቸር ያለህ ፍቅር እኔ ለሌሎች ኢትዮዽያውያን የምታስተዋውቀው ነገር አድናቂህ ነኝ!!", Odie to Horus
"እምነት ካልቸር ነው! የካልቸር ምስጢር የተያዘው በቋንቋ ውስጥ ነው ።", Horus to Odie
Gurage needs us to work together. We have abandoned Gurage for the last 135 years, since Gurage was forcibly annexed to Ethiopia thru the kingdom of the criminal Shoa by the barrel of the gun. We lost our independence to decide what's good for us. We are being ethnically cleansed from all south Ethiopia cities, from Awasa, Shashemene, Addis Abeba, Jima, Dire , Harar, Jijiga. Shockingly and brazenly from our own cities of Weliso and Welkite. Our enemy has come to the door of our house to evict us. Ethiopia that we trusted partly by choice and partly to minimize further loss, for protection and prosperity believing the larger community the better, is working against us. We are losing lands, lives and properties. We can stop it if we believe Ethiopia is no more our country because it has treated as an enemy population.
Lets fight to restore our citizenship rights in Ethiopia, if not out right declaration of independence. Our rights have been molested enough Ethiopia cannot go back on its resolve to restore them. Ethiopia is and will remain a sworn enemy of Gurage.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 10:15
by Right
All these nicknames Horus, Dama, Oldie etc are Guraghies. Horus is the one who endlessly talked about ethnic identity under all this nick names.
Why in the world a Gurage says “we will not fight Amhara”?. What brought the idea of fighting Amharas who is not invading or even living in Gurage land. It is the Guraghies from the day they were born migrates with all their siblings to wherever the Amharas are living. Very ungrateful and stupid.
This ethnic nationalism that has been eating all these people from smaller ethnic groups will kill them slowly.
Unless the union is strong, the smaller groups will be irrelevant.
Every living organism has a lifespan. Humans are not different. The most important thing is that to make sure the right and dignity of everyone in the union is protected within the lifespan. Period. The rest is an egotistic useless competition given as a homework by Ethiopia’s enemies for stupids.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 10:34
by Dama
Still Amara bla bla bla!
You got to be the dumbest racist to the core and you never learned to look Ethiopia in any other way. I will soon be tired baby-sitting you.
Spell Gurage as I spell it. Don't add 'hi.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 11:14
by Right
Walk the talk and exit.
A racist is the one who wants to build his house on the expense of others.
The Oromuma is f..cling your behind while you blabber Amhara. They know how to handle you because they have done it before.
You can’t shine shoes in unstable and destroyed house.
You, ungrateful animal.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 15:05
by Dama
Is Gurage alone to fight the oppression of Ethiopia? No. There is no fear of being alone or not winning the war. Every Ethiopian is armed and fighting Ethiopia's oppressions in one way another.
Eritrea exited Ethiopia and declared independence since Ethiopia's toward Eritreans was a safety risk just the same as toward Gurages. Eritreans were individually and collectively assaulted physically, killed, their properties looted or burned.
Tigrey, Oromo, Somali and Afar all fought Ethiopian injustices. Most obtained semi-autonomous status. Abiy Ahmed's centralist dictatorship policy to remove the semi-independence status of Tigrey almost toppled his government. Oromo is likewise resisting Abiy Ahmed's authoritarian regime. Ogadenia or Ethiopian Somalia are also fighting Abiy Ahmed's centralist government. Afar is on guard. Amara's Fano are not happy how Ethiopia deconstructed the privileges of Amara obtained by usurping the resources and powers of other ethnic groups since Menelick2nd of Shoa, a Hebrew word which means a place of hell or holocaust, the southern frontier of Abyssinia where criminals and undesirables of the north were deported to. Gurage's dealing with Fano will be coordinated with rest of comrades-in arms for a newer Ethiopia for a New Deal or else exit and usher sovereign nations.
Gurage will be able to organize and unite groups surrounding its geography as our ancestor did. We all have a common enemy and solution. It's just natural that we will coordinate our collective efforts toward the same goal of liberation from Ethiopia's oppressions. We are united by almost the same cultures and by shared languages. These groups are Kebena, Mareqo, Kambata, Halaba and Tambaro, Silte, Azernat and Zway, and Hadiya.
Re: Gurage on Crucible of Ethiopia
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 15:22
by Right
Gurage will be able to organize and unite groups surrounding its geography as our ancestor did
Go for it and good luck. If you can, leave the Amharas alone. They haven’t done anything to harm the Guraghies. It is the opposite.