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History should be told by historians and researchers for the main reasons of knowledge and not to find political reasoning to deceive a population. This is often done in Ethiopian politics.

For example, we are told time and time again that the battle of Dogali near Massawa on January 26, 1887 was led by Rasi Alula. But of course that is completely false. It was led and won by Dejezmach Mesfin Weldemichael. Son of Rasi Weldemichael Solomon. Unfortunately, he was martyred at the hands of the Italians after the war. And no one knows where his remains are buried but it is likely that he was taken to Italy and killed there.

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Ascari boy,

One of the symptoms of ascari syndrome is poaching some body's history.

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 09:33

The battle of Dogali was where the reputed Ethiopian General and the governor of the Tigray and Behar Negashi , Ras Alula Abanega defeated the invading Italian.

Axumezana wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 09:21

Ascari boy,

One of the symptoms of ascari syndrome is poaching some body's history.

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Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 09:33

The battle of Dogali was where the reputed Ethiopian General and the governor of the Tigray and Behar Negashi , Ras Alula Abanega defeated the invading Italian.

If you flip through the history books. I mean the real history books. You will also find what Emperior Menlik said about the role Bashai Awalom Haregot of Eritrea played at the war of Adwa.

But, when talking about history because you consider it a free ticket to be robbed by you. We choose to be silent and let you lie to heaven.

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Slave-trader Alula Aba Nega of Tigray was busy selling 5 million young Oromo boys and girls into a life of slavery to Arab countries when Eritrean warriors led by Martyr Mesfin Weldemichael were battling against the Italian colonial forces at Dogali.

There is no question that the so-called "History" of the fake country known as "Ethiopia", is based on wishful thinking and drooling over assets that never belonged to them. Do you ever hear an "Ethiopian" admitting that their survival is linked to kissing the Ferenjis' [deleted]? They love bragging about nothing. Forget about events that have happened before our time. They shamelessly deny the events that have happened in our living parents' time! As someone said above, it must be in their DNA as has been witnessed by their leaders including the current one with a kiddish mentality. Pathetic!

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 14:34

Did not governor and military general Alula Abanega established the city of Asmara?
A run away child can't steal run away with the integral history of its parents.በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ፈጣጣ አትሁኑ እንጅ። ታሪክ ይሰራል እንጅ አይሰረቅም።

Who on earth told you that?

In any case, the story of Asmera begins with 4 villages that were in conflict with each other. The women of the four villages, managed the villagers to come into agreement for a union. They called that union ኣርባዕተ ኣስመራ (Roughly translated as The union of the four). With the arrival of the Italians it became an established city and kept its name Asmera but without the four.

As far as Alula was concerned, firs of all, Alula was an intruder. His headquarters were in Adi-Teklay far away from Asmera. Not much is changed in Adi-Teklay other than it is bigger now than it was before.

Ascari eritrean ችጋር

You have been colonized for over 600 years by Turks, Egypt, Italy, UK, and Ethiopia.

Now, you have never won a single war in your entire history. Not even one.

600 አመት ስትነጭ ከርመህ ስለ ጦርነት ከኛጋ ማውራት አማረህ እንዴ

You are just angry at Ethiopia as usual because we remind you of how to be like FREE people

Jealousy is too bad

መጀመሪያ ቅማልህን አራግፍ፣ ሽርሙጥና እና ልምናህን አቁም እኛጋ እየመጣህ

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 16:11

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 14:34

Did not governor and military general Alula Abanega established the city of Asmara?
A run away child can't steal run away with the integral history of its parents.በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ፈጣጣ አትሁኑ እንጅ። ታሪክ ይሰራል እንጅ አይሰረቅም።

Who on earth told you that?

In any case, the story of Asmera begins with 4 villages that were in conflict with each other. The women of the four villages, managed the villagers to come into agreement for a union. They called that union ኣርባዕተ ኣስመራ (Roughly translated as The union of the four). With the arrival of the Italians it became an established city and kept its name Asmera but without the four.

As far as Alula was concerned, firs of all, Alula was an intruder. His headquarters were in Adi-Teklay far away from Asmera. Not much is changed in Adi-Teklay other than it is bigger now than it was before.

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 14:34

Did not governor and military general Alula Abanega established the city of Asmara?
A run away child can't steal run away with the integral history of its parents.በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ፈጣጣ አትሁኑ እንጅ። ታሪክ ይሰራል እንጅ አይሰረቅም።

This is a sheer lie.

Alula was a savage professional looter.

Who was alula?

According to a contemporary italian historian, alula was an ugly looking guy, 1.5 meter short with potbelly. He never smiles.

Was alula brave?

Of course not, in 1893 when he accompanied his lord ras megesha yohannes the illegitimate son of atse yohannes in their submission visit to Entoto, the seat of atse menilik, he and his lord mengesha put rock on their necks and knelt down begging menilik to pardon them. Menilik pardoned them then.

Now, convince me that the professional looter was a hero.

Now, you even made me laugh much. Women from 4 villages established Asmara city Well, villages were most common in history. Cities actually had been product of military head quarter or governor. In the past military head quarter or administrative center that gathered people for different function gave birth of towns. Thus, your story does not sound real. This days large army of activists scribble manufactured lies in Wikipedia to re-invent the wheel of history. Telling true history is neither a crime nor a loss. History is history, it is gone. Ras Alula Abanega is a one the most respected army general for Ethiopians, he defeated enemies in several battles. He was the governor of Bahri Negashi - today called Eritrea, after Italy. You may not like the story but you cannot change his history. We respect him and cherish his legacy, regardless of the ethnic turmoil going on in Ethiopia.

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 16:11

Who on earth told you that?

In any case, the story of Asmera begins with 4 villages that were in conflict with each other. The women of the four villages, managed the villagers to come into agreement for a union. They called that union ኣርባዕተ ኣስመራ (Roughly translated as The union of the four). With the arrival of the Italians it became an established city and kept its name Asmera but without the four.

As far as Alula was concerned, firs of all, Alula was an intruder. His headquarters were in Adi-Teklay far away from Asmera. Not much is changed in Adi-Teklay other than it is bigger now than it was before.

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:14

Now, you even made me laugh much. Women from 4 villages established Asmara city Well, villages were most common in history. Cities actually had been product of military head quarter or governor. In the past military head quarter or administrative center that gathered people for different function gave birth of towns. Thus, your story does not sound real. This days large army of activists scribble manufactured lies in Wikipedia to re-invent the wheel of history. Telling true history is neither a crime nor a loss. History is history, it is gone. Ras Alula Abanega is a one the most respected army general for Ethiopians, he defeated enemies in several battles. He was the governor of Bahri Negashi - today called Eritrea, after Italy. You may not like the story but you cannot change his history. We respect him and cherish his legacy, regardless of the ethnic turmoil going on in Ethiopia.

These are historical facts that I am trying to talk to you about.

If, you choose to have respect for a robber, that's up to you. It is not my business to get involved in.

Abere is correct here. Ascaris have no ability to build let alone a city even a home which is why you accepted to be slaves for 600 years. No other countries in the world accepted slavery for 600 years.

You can't talk about building or war. You have nothing to show of your own. All you have is some old as's ruined buildings built by your colonizers.

You can't talk about warriors, you don't know what it means. You don't have a single story of that

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:35

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:14

Now, you even made me laugh much. Women from 4 villages established Asmara city Well, villages were most common in history. Cities actually had been product of military head quarter or governor. In the past military head quarter or administrative center that gathered people for different function gave birth of towns. Thus, your story does not sound real. This days large army of activists scribble manufactured lies in Wikipedia to re-invent the wheel of history. Telling true history is neither a crime nor a loss. History is history, it is gone. Ras Alula Abanega is a one the most respected army general for Ethiopians, he defeated enemies in several battles. He was the governor of Bahri Negashi - today called Eritrea, after Italy. You may not like the story but you cannot change his history. We respect him and cherish his legacy, regardless of the ethnic turmoil going on in Ethiopia.

These are historical facts that I am trying to talk to you about.

If, you choose to have respect for a robber, that's up to you. It is not my business to get involved in.

union wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:38

Abere is correct here. Ascaris have no ability to build let alone a city even a home which is why you accepted to be slaves for 600 years. No other countries in the world accepted slavery for 600 years.

You can't talk about building or war. You have nothing to show of your own. All you have is some old as's ruined buildings built by your colonizers.

You can't talk about warriors, you don't know what it means. You don't have a single story of that

Is that right?
Well, at least it's not my people who have lived in handouts for their entire existence and still are doing it.

But if an imaginary belief makes your rotten soul to calm. So be it. No problem at all.

Yes, it's historical facts I stated.

Ascari ችጋር. Swallow the facts!! And move on እዚህ እየመጣህ በውሸትህ መአት አታደንቁረን

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 18:00

union wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:38

Abere is correct here. Ascaris have no ability to build let alone a city even a home which is why you accepted to be slaves for 600 years. No other countries in the world accepted slavery for 600 years.

You can't talk about building or war. You have nothing to show of your own. All you have is some old as's ruined buildings built by your colonizers.

You can't talk about warriors, you don't know what it means. You don't have a single story of that

Is that right?
Well, at least it's not my people who have lived in handouts for their entire existence and still are doing it.

But if an imaginary belief makes your rotten soul to calm. So be it. No problem at all.

kerenite wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:10

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 14:34

Did not governor and military general Alula Abanega established the city of Asmara?
A run away child can't steal run away with the integral history of its parents.በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ፈጣጣ አትሁኑ እንጅ። ታሪክ ይሰራል እንጅ አይሰረቅም።

This is a sheer lie.

Alula was a savage professional looter.

Who was alula?

According to a contemporary italian historian, alula was an ugly looking guy, 1.5 meter short with potbelly. He never smiles.

Was alula brave?

Of course not, in 1893 when he accompanied his lord ras megesha yohannes the illegitimate son of atse yohannes in their submission visit to Entoto, the seat of atse menilik, he and his lord mengesha put rock on their necks and knelt down begging menilik to pardon them. Menilik pardoned them then.

Now, convince me that the professional looter was a hero.

An addendum to what I wrote above,

The great grand daughter of Abdul hay is a member of our community club here and she is a good billiards player.

Who is she? One of her many jobs is that she is a translator for the asylum seekers, she masters a lot of languages.

Perhaps she inherited the translation job from her great grand father.

This is what she told us about him. She said her great grand father was living in his village which was located near adi teklay unhappily. Hence he went to massawa which was under the rule of the egyptians then and made it to Cairo, Egypt. Here he mastered the Arabic language and returned back to his village.

In his village the only means for him to feed his family was by teaching Arabic to the citizens of his village and to the citizens of nearby villages.

Now from the horse's mouth:

Alula was stationed or his main seat was at adi teklay not far from present day asmara.

The italians sent a message to alula telling him that their troops and their mules are suffering from the extreme heat and as such they are planning to move to the highlands.

Who is the translator here? Of course aboy abdelhay. His great grand daughter told us that a mule was sent to his village to bring him to adi teklay and he was always cursing the day he learned Arabic. Alula did have armenians with him who mastered Arabic but he was not trusting them.

Finally,

Ato abdel hay was brought with a mule and was translating the message of the italians in which they wish that they will move to the highlands.

Here alula gets mad and this is how he reacts according to the great grand daughter:

Alula waves his sword and jumps up and down in a sort of war dance and he says:

Ane alula wedi Qubi No way and was waving his sword looking at aboy adel hay who was just a mere translator.

Aboy abdel hay said:

Nsu zello gemgem Qelay nisikha zellekha Adi teklay (he is on the seashores and you are at adi teklay)

Iza seif niEu diya weyis niAy (is this sword aimed at him or at me)

Ane abdel hay intaybehalay (I am a harmless person)

Courtesy of his beautiful great-grand-daughter.

Please cut this revisionist bullsh!t & get over it. Despite Italy’s modern weaponry & assistance from Eritrean Ascaris, Alula battled the invaders & defeated them miserably. It’s mind boggling to hear that a dead Dejazmach fought & won the war.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wik ... _of_Dogali

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 08:15

History should be told by historians and researchers for the main reasons of knowledge and not to find political reasoning to deceive a population. This is often done in Ethiopian politics.

For example, we are told time and time again that the battle of Dogali near Massawa on January 26, 1887 was led by Rasi Alula. But of course that is completely false. It was led and won by Dejezmach Mesfin Weldemichael. Son of Rasi Weldemichael Solomon. Unfortunately, he was martyred at the hands of the Italians after the war. And no one knows where his remains are buried but it is likely that he was taken to Italy and killed there.

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Abere
Asmara was indeed founded prior to the arrival of Italians. Whether the so-called “union four clans” gave birth to a city or a town or a village, that I don’t know.

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:14

Now, you even made me laugh much. Women from 4 villages established Asmara city Well, villages were most common in history. Cities actually had been product of military head quarter or governor. In the past military head quarter or administrative center that gathered people for different function gave birth of towns. Thus, your story does not sound real. This days large army of activists scribble manufactured lies in Wikipedia to re-invent the wheel of history. Telling true history is neither a crime nor a loss. History is history, it is gone. Ras Alula Abanega is a one the most respected army general for Ethiopians, he defeated enemies in several battles. He was the governor of Bahri Negashi - today called Eritrea, after Italy. You may not like the story but you cannot change his history. We respect him and cherish his legacy, regardless of the ethnic turmoil going on in Ethiopia.

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 16:11

Who on earth told you that?

In any case, the story of Asmera begins with 4 villages that were in conflict with each other. The women of the four villages, managed the villagers to come into agreement for a union. They called that union ኣርባዕተ ኣስመራ (Roughly translated as The union of the four). With the arrival of the Italians it became an established city and kept its name Asmera but without the four.

As far as Alula was concerned, firs of all, Alula was an intruder. His headquarters were in Adi-Teklay far away from Asmera. Not much is changed in Adi-Teklay other than it is bigger now than it was before.

Abere wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 17:14

Now, you even made me laugh much. Women from 4 villages established Asmara city Well, villages were most common in history. Cities actually had been product of military head quarter or governor. In the past military head quarter or administrative center that gathered people for different function gave birth of towns. Thus, your story does not sound real. This days large army of activists scribble manufactured lies in Wikipedia to re-invent the wheel of history. Telling true history is neither a crime nor a loss. History is history, it is gone. Ras Alula Abanega is a one the most respected army general for Ethiopians, he defeated enemies in several battles. He was the governor of Bahri Negashi - today called Eritrea, after Italy. You may not like the story but you cannot change his history. We respect him and cherish his legacy, regardless of the ethnic turmoil going on in Ethiopia.

eritrea wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 16:11

Who on earth told you that?

In any case, the story of Asmera begins with 4 villages that were in conflict with each other. The women of the four villages, managed the villagers to come into agreement for a union. They called that union ኣርባዕተ ኣስመራ (Roughly translated as The union of the four). With the arrival of the Italians it became an established city and kept its name Asmera but without the four.

As far as Alula was concerned, firs of all, Alula was an intruder. His headquarters were in Adi-Teklay far away from Asmera. Not much is changed in Adi-Teklay other than it is bigger now than it was before.

you are being dishonest here why are u misquoting Eritrea in here.. Eritrea said that four woman of the four villages managed the villagers the people community to come to gether so in essence the woman initiated the frame work and the foundation the people could come together , When men fight or have dissagreement woman tend to be more compramising and it is a trait that can bring people together. All in all We know Eritrean woman are strong they have shown this in the independence war and were playing active role so what makes u think the generation in the 19 century could not organise their communities.


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