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So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Horus » 09 Jan 2024, 14:19


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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Fiyameta » 09 Jan 2024, 14:27

WE ARE SAYING....


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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by euroland » 09 Jan 2024, 14:31

Eritrea made it clear without mentioning the two countries involved by name that, Eritrea urges the respect of territorial sovereignty of the UN member state. This statement is the same as the US, EEU, Arab League, China, Turkey, AU, other individual African and none African nations. Eritrea ALWAYS, how powerful the violator may be (such as US invasion of Somalia in 1994) stands on the right side. Only Eritrea also opposed US invasion of Somalia then, not one single country in the world oppressed the US, they were all timid. It was since then the US hold grudges against Eritrea.

I am sure if Somalia had invaded Ogaden today, Eritrea would have opposed Somalia for violation of Ethiopia’s sovereignty.

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09 Jan 2024, 14:19

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Misraq » 09 Jan 2024, 14:35

Don't be afraid to speak your mind. Let me tackle this from the psychology and business point of view. Ethiopia was mainly using one port i.e. Djibouti. If it adds one from Somaliland (remember the word if), it will render Eritrea further into irrelevancy. Now, would Eritrea like that? the answer lies in the social media. go and check in titoki, YouTube and Facebook and witness Eritrean activists proudly wearing Somalia flag, beating the drum and hyping Somalis. But their leader is tightlipped as usual customary to the way he handles business. but we are not born yesterday. Port issue is something 125 million Ethiopians collectively will have to think for the rest of their existence in this planet. If Eritrea doesn't want Ethiopia to have access, it shouldn't obstruct Ethiopians effort somewhere else. Of course, the cone artist Abiy is envisioning his Oromia and we will be sitting and enjoying his humiliation. Let the somalis $hag him because he is evil and he has evil plan i.e Oromo first and everything only for Oromo. But for us it is a good awakening to see Eritreans evil intention in regards to the 125 million Ethiopians access to the sea.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Horus » 09 Jan 2024, 14:37

Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Zack » 09 Jan 2024, 15:12

euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:31
Eritrea made it clear without mentioning the two countries involved by name that, Eritrea urges the respect of territorial sovereignty of the UN member state. This statement is the same as the US, EEU, Arab League, China, Turkey, AU, other individual African and none African nations. Eritrea ALWAYS, how powerful the violator may be (such as US invasion of Somalia in 1994) stands on the right side. Only Eritrea also opposed US invasion of Somalia then, not one single country in the world oppressed the US, they were all timid. It was since then the US hold grudges against Eritrea.

I am sure if Somalia had invaded Ogaden today, Eritrea would have opposed Somalia for violation of Ethiopia’s sovereignty.

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09 Jan 2024, 14:19


First of Soomalis would not invade the ogaden region how ever we would promote Somalis in that region rise up and secede from Ethiopia under the disguise of self determination , we wouldnt invade that land as we did before to incooperate it with Somalia but we wish them to fight along side the other ethiopian people and free them selves from ethiopia and after that declare independence or join Somalia or Djibouti where ever they want. But we would not want to invade that land other wise the world will turn against us

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by euroland » 09 Jan 2024, 15:30

Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute. Despite repeated warnings from Shaebia leaders, Egypt continued to do so. It also trained and financed a few Muslim extremest in the border with Eritrea/Sudan, inside Sudan after independence. Shaebia was forced to cross to Sudan territory and decimated their camps and captured important documents that led to Egypt’s involvement. PIA is a person who never forgives or let the time heal the misdeed people do to him. It shows til today that Eritrea never trust Egypt and also keep a very close eye on Egypt’s embassy employees in Asmara. It also limits how many members Egypt has to have and so. Despite some desperate Ethiopians try to accuse Eritrea for having relationship, Ethiopian authorities know well Egypt and Eritrea never been in good term since the 1960th. In short, Ethiopia has better relationships with Egypt than Eritrea has with Egypt.

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Zack » 09 Jan 2024, 15:36

So what was eritrea statement on the entire issue didnt eritrea issued a statement to be with somalia


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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Somaliman » 09 Jan 2024, 15:42

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:19


Eritrea is arming Somalia's military.
Utterly false.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Horus » 09 Jan 2024, 15:44

euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:30
Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute. Despite repeated warnings from Shaebia leaders, Egypt continued to do so. It also trained and financed a few Muslim extremest in the border with Eritrea/Sudan, inside Sudan after independence. Shaebia was forced to cross to Sudan territory and decimated their camps and captured important documents that led to Egypt’s involvement. PIA is a person who never forgives or let the time heal the misdeed people do to him. It shows til today that Eritrea never trust Egypt and also keep a very close eye on Egypt’s embassy employees in Asmara. It also limits how many members Egypt has to have and so. Despite some desperate Ethiopians try to accuse Eritrea for having relationship, Ethiopian authorities know well Egypt and Eritrea never been in good term since the 1960th. In short, Ethiopia has better relationships with Egypt than Eritrea has with Egypt.

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
With time everything changes; so I don't know about the current state of Egypto-Eritrean relations. All I am saying is that Egypt has historical and permanent hostility toward Ethiopia and that is what driving its involvements in HoA. On the other hand Eritrea is forever tied to Ethiopia by history and geography. So it is not wise to get entangled with Egyptian motives. I would say the same about Somalia. Somalia and Ethiopia are also forever tied together by geography and history. So, I don't think it is in the national interest Eritrea to take sides on Ethio-Somalia conflicts since Eritrea has no clear national interest there.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Jan 2024, 15:45

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
That is not smart, at least there is no evidence to qualify that way. Did you read the said statement from Shabia? If you did, why didn't you share it instead of this gibberish comment by someone like you?

If you reached on that conclusion before you have even seen the message, then it is not the "statement" that is smart but it is you that is dull, like I have told you many times before.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Abere » 09 Jan 2024, 15:46

I did not watch this video, but Eritrea is not going to be dragged into this Somalia mud. Why would it do so, what to earn? I do not think Eritrea will take a risk to save Somalia's arse - done 33 years ago.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Fiyameta » 09 Jan 2024, 15:48

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
History Lesson One:
My country Eritrea had the courage to change its fate by defeating not one, but two word super powers and their aid-fed minions, to forever severe its link to the Neo-colony next door.

Geography Lesson One:
My country Eritrea does not share a border with Egypt. If Egypt is to pay a visit to Ethiopia it will be through Sudan, a country that shares a border with both Egypt and the great state of Benishangul-Gumuz. :P

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Somaliman » 09 Jan 2024, 15:58

It has nothing to do with dominance but respect.

However, from experience perspective, there's no match for Afwerki in East Africa and even beyond, whether we like it or not. To me, Museveni is not worth counting.

Due to the nature of the current comedy, it's clear that neither of them are expected to discuss in detail what they've talked about, and anyone who purports anything in this regard is a pure speculation and extrapolation.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Horus » 09 Jan 2024, 16:00

Abere,
It is funny that everybody declares support for sovereignty of Somalia!This empty claim. Somaliland stated yesterday that Somalia was violating their national sovereignty. So the issue can only be solved in two ways - either the 2 countries agree to peacefully divorce or militarily secure their separation.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Jan 2024, 16:06

Abere wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:46
I did not watch this video, but Eritrea is not going to be dragged into this Somalia mud. Why would it do so, what to earn? I do not think Eritrea will take a risk to save Somalia's arse - done 33 years ago.
You can't come to that conclusion, if you did use a normal and rational mind: you both (Abere and Horus), with many other like minded creatures among us, selectively listening to something that appeal to your ears. By doing so you stopped to think rationally.

Ethiopia has got many more intelligent minds, who could even help others, in addition to Ethiopia. What a normal mind would spend one's time with such a rubbish "analysis" from a very distant corner of the world, while we Ethiopians have our own very intelligent minds among ourselves?

The guy must have been paid to smear the name of Ethiopia, for what ever reason and by who ever.

"ወደብ የምል ቃል በተነሳ ቁጥር፣ ታንክ ወደ መወልወል የምሄዱት ፍጥሩች", said the guy (engineer Tesfaye) in the following video.

They should change that sort of attitude, if they ever dream to get any closer to the Ethiopian people. Period!


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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Jan 2024, 16:06

Abere wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:46
I did not watch this video, but Eritrea is not going to be dragged into this Somalia mud. Why would it do so, what to earn? I do not think Eritrea will take a risk to save Somalia's arse - done 33 years ago.
You can't come to that conclusion, if you did use a normal and rational mind: you both (Abere and Horus), with many other like minded creatures among us, selectively listening to something that appeal to your ears. By doing so you stopped to think rationally.

Ethiopia has got many more intelligent minds, who could even help others, in addition to Ethiopia. What a normal mind would spend one's time with such a rubbish "analysis" from a very distant corner of the world, while we Ethiopians have our own very intelligent minds among ourselves?

The guy must have been paid to smear the name of Ethiopia, for what ever reason and by who ever.

"ወደብ የምል ቃል በተነሳ ቁጥር፣ ታንክ ወደ መወልወል የምሄዱት ፍጥሩች", said the guy (engineer Tesfaye) in the following video.

They should change that sort of attitude, if they ever dream to get any closer to the Ethiopian people. Period!


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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Jan 2024, 16:09

ኤሪትሪያ የኢትዮጵያን አቅም ተረድታ ነዉ አደብ የገዛችዉ፣ ሶማሊያም እንደዘዉ ስትረዳ እሷም እንደዚያዉ አደብ ትገዛላች። አለቀ ደቀቀ!

ሀይል ስኖርህ ብቻ ነዉ የምትከበረዉ።

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Cigar » 09 Jan 2024, 16:11

Horos the dumb a’ss Ethiopian, there are no multiple Somalia sovereign states which are recognized by the UN.
Somaliland just like your agame land can believe it is a sovereign nation, but it is not.
Just like the federal govt is fu’cking your agame behind Somalia also has all international supported legal means to fu’ck Somaliland too.
You filthy agames don’t like the PP but you will not dare to bring Shaebia, the Sudan or the USA into Tigray (Ethiopia territory) for any reason except by the good will of the federal Ethiopian govt to feed your starved funfunat aliet agames and thus a ‘trying run away’ somaliLand region also has no legal right to invite any other foreign state in the greater Somalia territories with out the blessing of the great sovereign Somali state.
Are you all that stupid or just blabbering out of desperation or unattainable dreams?

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Somaliman » 09 Jan 2024, 16:17

Mohamud told Eritrean state TV after his meeting with Afwerki, adding that Asmara supports “the sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity of Somalia.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/somalia ... .%E2%80%9D

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