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How did Tigray went to irrelevancy? wasn't it because the arrogance, nepotism, ember-tegadalay, theft, day light robbery....etc? i a couple of years, Oromo will be history too.

The picture below is a satire in the mind of Ethiopian Somalis

Inflated ego of irrelevant tigreas has burst.
it’s good for the region

Tigray was made irrelevant by Abiye Ahmed Ali and the dictator of Asmara and the Amhara Fano army

Dr Zackovich

Zack wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 18:10

Tigray was made irrelevant by Abiye Ahmed Ali and the dictator of Asmara and the Amhara Fano army

Dr Zackovich

I am not sure who is next. I thought Oromos are next but Somalis arrogance and insult on Ethiopians in social medias, i fear somalis will be next. But the kushetic alliance need to negotiate on who will be next

Tigrayan sister miss rock, comparing tigray to Oromia is a joke. It shows that you're either blinded by hatred, ignorant or just deliberately posting nonsense as a pastime.
Oromia will always be relevant, just look at a map and see for yourself. The best lands of Ethiopia, the most watered arable Lands are within Oromia. Oromia is the backbone of Ethiopia.
Menelik himself was saved by oromo after he left magdala, before he was powerful and had an army, and oromo generals led his army. I can go on and on. Tigray can secede today and Ethiopia would survive. If oromia goes, Ethiopia goes bye bye too.
Governments will come and go, but the backbone of Ethiopia will be there. But I can agree, partially, that abiys mistakes may result in ignorant people targeting oromo civilians who have nothing to do with opdo, but that's no surprise when it comes to africans or even humans in general. Humans can be savages when blinded by hatred and anger. Regardless of their ethnicity.

Misraq wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 18:28

Zack wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 18:10

Tigray was made irrelevant by Abiye Ahmed Ali and the dictator of Asmara and the Amhara Fano army

Dr Zackovich

I am not sure who is next. I thought Oromos are next but Somalis arrogance and insult on Ethiopians in social medias, i fear somalis will be next. But the kushetic alliance need to negotiate on who will be next

U only defeated the tigrayans because it was a joint alliance of gallas amaharas and the Eritreans.. Dont forget the Tigrayans have a fighting spirit and are the Asxaabul Fiil mentioned in the Quran who invaded Arabia.

The Somali fight with Ethiopia will be different. First the Eritreans will be on our side

The gallas , those that opppose Abiye are all on our side

That leaves Amhara , will amhara fight Somalis or the Galla led Ethiopia government



Tough choice




Dr Zackovich

Zack wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 18:37

U only defeated the tigrayans because it was a joint alliance of gallas amaharas and the Eritreans.. Dont forget the Tigrayans have a fighting spirit and are the Asxaabul Fiil mentioned in the Quran who invaded Arabia.

They accumulated weapons of all sort in Tigray for 28 years in a pretext of stopping Eritrea. They had missiles that can struck both Asmara and Bahir Dar. They made sure they educate their Generals. They had money and the muscle of diplomacy and intelligence all built by Ethiopian raw material. If you fail to count all that, yes you may come and say to us what you have said.

thats all good and well but you outnumbered them thats is also very important one minus point for the tigrayans is they got lazy because they never thought the gallas would rise up. Mis calculation they made there They got lazy they were caught off guard and once u do that , Its very dangerous. Imagine The Eritreans gallas and amhara combined forces.

Had a very dififcult task to defeat the Tigrayans , and the end the Tigrayasn negotiated a deal with The gallas ,to stop the war. U still hold some of their land the Eritreans also , hold some of their land. But overall they almost lost the war , but won the political war. That to is shrewdnes its like a football match u down 2 against nill and u come back 2 2 . But i believe numbers are everything had the Tigrayans been the size of Amhara or the Gallas. They could have never been defeated or marganalised and put in the predicement they are in now. They can still revcover. But now the challenge is for Amhara and Fano.

Dr Zackovich

Tigrayan brother Zack, I know you have to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. You're very loyal to your tigrayan nation, which is expected. One who loves his nation would defend them.
However, the truth is, when it comes to the recent tigrayan war, they went from conventional warfare to guerrilla warfare and that's when tigray experienced some success. Knowledge of the terrain, support from the masses, etc, are essential and thats what helped them, numbers don't matter as much then (to guerrillas).

Tigray however, could not sustain that for long, as hunger, famine, and other issues came into play. Being a tiny poor region within an poor country is a dilemma.
Ethiopia being poor, wouldn't have been able to sustain it either, although, it has a huge advantage over tiny tigray in the funds $$ department.

Tigrayan are warlike people that is true , they far more like warlike people then the gallas and the clever by half Amharas.
They worked hard and made a comeback really despite the odds being against. them if the tigrayans had the numbers of the gallas they would have owned u for atleast a century or two. Thats why the Axumiite Kingdom existed for centuries indeed


Dr Zackovich

Tigrayan brother Zack, I know you love your beloved Tigrayan people. You must defend them and even exaggerate about them. I get it. You could even say, they went to the moon, planted their flag there and did their famous circle dance.
If they were more warlike, they'd occupy more land. Warlike and being inferior in land mass and manpower, doesn't go together. It doesn't add up my friend.


Good try though.

Not necessarily people have their ups and downs and decline , tigrayans had their height during the Axumite Kingdom. and ofcourse during Yohannes they were very relevent also in Africa. So there could be some decline. the Tigriyans have also a country called Eritrea to their name.. They also had been divided by the European colonialists and ofcourse the various Amhara leadership the treaty Whuchaale was dissastrous for the Tigray Tigriinya people . If they were united some how they would be a power to be reckoned with Indeed How ever this didnt happen and they both became relevant in Ethiopia and Eritrea respecfully. I give credit where its due.. the Amhara are good administrators good politicians good leadership thinkers innovators builders. Really the Galla are good followers good foot soldiers good in begging good assimilating the various other ethnic groups, good in stealing Lands. I give credit where its due.

Dr Zackovich

Yes necessarily. If they were superior and more warlike, they'd have more land and more soldiers/manpower. No amount of scribbling and ranting about the past and "if they ____," can change that. Tigrayan brother Zack, do the kebessa of Eritrea identify as tigrayans? Interesting. You should make a post with a poll to see what they think.
If I were you, a bitter tplf cyber troll, I'd hate the group, the "gallas" that pushed my tplf uncles out of power too. I get it dude. Maybe it's part of your healing process, due to the traumatic events that have occurred in your beloved tigray.

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 20:05

Yes necessarily. If they were superior and more warlike, they'd have more land and more soldiers/manpower. No amount of scribbling and ranting about the past and "if they ____," can change that. Tigrayan brother Zack, do the kebessa of Eritrea identify as tigrayans? Interesting. You should make a post with a poll to see what they think.
If I were you, a bitter tplf cyber troll, I'd hate the group, the "gallas" that pushed my tplf uncles out of power too. I get it dude. Maybe it's part of your healing process, due to the traumatic events that have occurred in your beloved tigray.

where do u get the sense that i hate Gallas. i dont hate the gallas but the gallas cause problem for Somalis in the Somali region , and in trying to steal our sea outlet. thats all i dont have other problems with opdo abiye and the gallas. and that they are now in the menelik palace really. And now act more Amhara then Amhara and abuse. The Gallas problem with the TPLF wasnt their policy or anything , it was just that why are we not sitting where the TPLF sits, but there is no difference between Abiye party and the TPLF really. There is actually more war misery during the short reign of Abiye then in the 28 year of Tigrayan rule.


As for the kebessa and the tigrayans are the same poeple , i have met so many Eritreans that consider the Kebessa and Tigrayans the same people of the same stock Kebessa means high land in Tigrinya, and Tigrayans are named after their province derived from The Wordt Tigrinya. in reality the ethnic group is called Tigrinyans thats what the Tigraayanas and Tigrinayans are called. Named after their language. The Tigrigna speakers are one people divided by politcs and nationalistic bounderies these are identities are also real for what ever reaosn they exist But the ethnic identity is also Real. Ask Deqi arewit he called the tigrayans his very own cousins, the tigrayans and EPLF and TPLF had a joint alliance the bond of brothers
they crushed the amhara mengistu the gallas every one . Its like me considering my self less of a Somali just because i am From Djibouti I am a Somali First and an Issa second a Djiboutian third I would never say such an absurd thing that an Afar is closer to me then a Somali from the main land of Somalia. though affars are our country men , but Somalis are our people first i am also a Somali citizen and have a stake in Somali affairs , if the Issa and the affars fight. Who do u think has my back the Somali people 20 million Somalis will have my back from Zeila to Garisa deep into Kenyas north eastern Province.



Dr Zackovich

Tigrayan brother zack, it's okay. You can hate us..not everyone is meant to get along in this world. That should go without saying.
I'd hate us too, if I were a Tplf cyber troll, whose looting uncles got pushed out of power. That must be traumatic, especially the events that occurred afterwards. It changed things forever, I get it. I for one hope Tigray defeats famine and poverty, I have nothing against them personally, they are back to their 8% share of Ethiopias power or relevancy. That's good and deserved.


Oh really. Okay well, poll the Eritreans here who are probably all kebessa and see if they agree with you. It'd be interesting to see their comments, for sure. Let's see how they vote, since you seem to be so confident about it. I remember reading about the libi tigray roads in Eritrea and how that name came about. I also remember reading about how Eritrean elders warned Shabia about trusting tigrayans too. But hey, maybe all of that is wrong and you're right. Let's see.
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First of all hate and stuff is bad i dont hate any one not even the jews or the Amhara or any one. I may dislike some one policy but i dont hate entire communities. Having said that Ethiopia is always our enemie whether mengistu is in power meles Haile sellasie or Menelik or Yohannes or Tedros. or Yekuno Amlak or Amde tssion , They are always our enemies. We dont make a difference between Galla Abiye and Tigrayan Meles. They have the same policy there is absolutly no difference. Tigrayan being out of power changes little for us , Ethiopia still uses our ports the war doesnt cause us. the only war that had some affect on us was the war with the Affars and the Wars between the Gallas and the Somalis dear lad thats all


As for the Tigrinya and Tigray ask ur self a people who speak the same language who live so close to each other adhere the same faith Tewehedo church have the same customs and traditions are the same people. They can scream their lungs out that they do not have any sort of relations or origins. They will come with ridiculous myth that the tigrayans are of agew stock and that they are of beje stock belew kelew. Though Senior debator Deqi arewit rejects this notion , and says we the tigrinya of eritrea are not Beja sperm . Do your own research how come a Tigrayan from Tigray can settle in Asmara and can become an Eritrean citizen and no other Ethiopian ethnic group can have that. I understand there is a difference also theyre might be some differences they might even have different national identities. But they are still of the same dna. its like an albanian from kosovo and an Albanian from the main land of Albania still still ethnic albanians. but different countries.


Dr Zackovich

Tigrayan sister abyssinian lady aka Zack hagos wedi adwa,

It's okay. I understand and get it. If I were a tplf cyber troll, whose looters uncles got chased to oblivion and my region got swarmed on all sides by armed groups seeking revenge, and then my region got sent back to the 1950s with a famine looming... I'd be mad, bitter and hate us Oromos too. But remember, a large part of the blame goes to your tplf leaders who set the stage for that all to occur.

That's good. You should make a poll, see how the Kebessa here feel about that bro. I did hear the so called tigrayans in the North, Eritrea, may allow wheat and energy biscuits to be imported there to tigray, that's something we can all celebrate regardless of ethnicity.
Maybe that'll cheer you and your other accounts here, up and make you less bitter towards oromos and whomever else you blame for tigray being sent to the 1950s.

Agame tplf Zack is very angry about the lose and tplf-chigray being irrelevant.

Ascari euroland aka sadacha is busy pretending oromo again

I think tigrays are tough peaple , they just don't have strategic land. Every time they fight they are at risk of starvation. It's not easy when you are surrounded by enemies. Tigray should Normalize their relationship with Eritrea. It's in their best interest.

You forgot about 1.5 million tplfs agames were killed in action. They got the point. They will never attempt such a crazy idea again.

You also said agames' main problem which is lack of food but your solution is for them to join shi't hole eritrea where there is only qulqwal

You a genius ascari

Jikaar wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 09:40

I think tigrays are tough peaple , they just don't have strategic land. Every time they fight they are at risk of starvation. It's not easy when you are surrounded by enemies. Tigray should Normalize their relationship with Eritrea. It's in their best interest.