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Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 15:16
by Abere
a) Because Ethiopians are immediate neighbors of recipient of the heavy lifting in many ways, but not Eritreans.
b) Because of suspicion Ethiopia's having naval base regarded as a threat to Eritrea, but in principle support Somaliland's independence
c) Because Somalia did great favor to Eritrea during the gruella warfare such as giving Somalian passport and citizenship.
d) Because both have greater influence from Arab league, although in principle Somaliland's independencies acceptable
e) Other (Specify):_________________________________


Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 15:24
by euroland
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.

Abere wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:16
a) Because Ethiopians are immediate neighbors of recipient of the heavy lifting in many ways, but not Eritreans.
b) Because of suspicion Ethiopia's having naval base regarded as a threat to Eritrea, but in principle support Somaliland's independence
c) Because Somalia did great favor to Eritrea during the gruella warfare such as giving Somalian passport and citizenship.
d) Because both have greater influence from Arab league, although in principle Somaliland's independencies acceptable
e) Other (Specify):_________________________________


Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 15:38
by TesfaNews
Gurage listro abere aka Horus

Somaliland independence benefits oromunna not your tribe. There is no Ethiopia you are talking about the same PP that is droning your region wants prosperity in Oromia

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 16:37
by DefendTheTruth
euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:24
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.
By the same token, Eritrean mafias "opposition" against Somaliland's independence has nothing with a principled stand of upright walking humans, it is purely out of jealousy those mafias espouse for Ethiopia, all their life long.

Like the saying goes "the fish rots down from the head" that attitude towards Ethiopia emanates from the Despot himself at the top.

When the despot will be sent to his ultimate place in the Hell, the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea will going to build their homes for harmony and shared destiny together.

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 16:49
by Cigar
Like Euroland said the Eritrean govt didn’t say either way, but I believe it has my perspective.
Why the fu’ck do you think we expell you from Badime and now again chased away from Assab.
It is because we believe in the territorial integrity of all nations. Ethiopia didn’t use our ports for decades. So we don’t lose what we never have and keep on using other ports for all we care.
But godemet, by principle yes, Ethiopia should not set its feet let alone in the gulf of Aden, Red Sea but in any inch of land mass of any other country,
If you TOTA dumb a’ss PM was honest, he should have approached the federal Somali govt and iron things first.
But Ethiopia’s and Ethiopians behavior is backstabbing.
The fact that you didn’t list the option I just mentioned is a fact that you are a thief

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 16:49
by Cigar
Like Euroland said the Eritrean govt didn’t say either way, but I believe it has my perspective.
Why the fu’ck do you think we expell you from Badime and now again chased away from Assab.
It is because we believe in the territorial integrity of all nations. Ethiopia didn’t use our ports for decades. So we don’t lose what we never have and keep on using other ports for all we care.
But godemet, by principle yes, Ethiopia should not set its feet let alone in the gulf of Aden, Red Sea but in any inch of land mass of any other country,
If you TOTA dumb a’ss PM was honest, he should have approached the federal Somali govt and iron things first.
But Ethiopia’s and Ethiopians behavior is backstabbing.
The fact that you didn’t list the option I just mentioned is a fact that you are a thief

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 16:55
by euroland
DDT, the PeePee cadre

Your low IQ leader has no sound policy on either domestic or foreign; look where the country is today; war in all four corners of the country, foreign enemies in all directions as well. The country you PeePee are learning today is on fire. Now, who in the right head would be jealous of this country, a hell on earth?

Eritrea’s principal is always based on fairness to others. Like your daddy Weyane, Eritrea refused to be used as tool for your western powers when it was asked to help invading Somalia in 1994. You goons were more than happy to b used as a slave for their mission, a mission that blown up on the face of Ethiopia. You earned hate by Somalis, a hate that well deserved. Your low IQ leader who grew up drinking Weyane’s breastmilk is repeating what his Weyane daddy had done. Our leadership isn’t like your who would bend over for a few tones of USAIDE, the reason why Eritrea stayed neutral on Somalia’s affair is it is because it believes the issue is all Somalians matter that’s need to be resolved without any foreign country’s involvement.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:37
euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:24
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.
By the same token, Eritrean mafias "opposition" against Somaliland's independence has nothing with a principled stand of upright walking humans, it is purely out of jealousy those mafias espouse for Ethiopia, all their life long.

Like the saying goes "the fish rots down from the head" that attitude towards Ethiopia emanates from the Despot himself at the top.

When the despot will be sent to his ultimate place in the Hell, the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea will going to build their homes for harmony and shared destiny together.

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 17:13
by DefendTheTruth
In that all full of blabbering what you don't even differentiate between is going after one's business and interference in the internal affairs of others.

Ethiopia is doing her business, your despot is burning outside in from the envy deep in himself.

Did we see him recently literally begging the President of Russia to come and save his vegetating behind from the ultimate demise? Which neighboring country didn't have a quarrel with your banana republic?

It was only after Ethiopia whipped him from behind around the turn of the century that he finally started to behalf humanly and leave his neighbors in peace.

He never quarrels with anybody around for the last over 23 years or so. If he forgets all that and start to behave differently again, then the whip is still around.

Ethiopia can be in a bad shape, but to be reminded about that by an Eritrean is out of this universe.

euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:55
DDT, the PeePee cadre

Your low IQ leader has no sound policy on either domestic or foreign; look where the country is today; war in all four corners of the country, foreign enemies in all directions as well. The country you PeePee are learning today is on fire. Now, who in the right head would be jealous of this country, a hell on earth?

Eritrea’s principal is always based on fairness to others. Like your daddy Weyane, Eritrea refused to be used as tool for your western powers when it was asked to help invading Somalia in 1994. You goons were more than happy to b used as a slave for their mission, a mission that blown up on the face of Ethiopia. You earned hate by Somalis, a hate that well deserved. Your low IQ leader who grew up drinking Weyane’s breastmilk is repeating what his Weyane daddy had done. Our leadership isn’t like your who would bend over for a few tones of USAIDE, the reason why Eritrea stayed neutral on Somalia’s affair is it is because it believes the issue is all Somalians matter that’s need to be resolved without any foreign country’s involvement.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:37
euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:24
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.
By the same token, Eritrean mafias "opposition" against Somaliland's independence has nothing with a principled stand of upright walking humans, it is purely out of jealousy those mafias espouse for Ethiopia, all their life long.

Like the saying goes "the fish rots down from the head" that attitude towards Ethiopia emanates from the Despot himself at the top.

When the despot will be sent to his ultimate place in the Hell, the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea will going to build their homes for harmony and shared destiny together.

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 17:20
by Fed_Up
The fundamental principle of standing for what is right for all and preventing future conflicts is of utmost importance. This principle should be applied to Ethiopia, just as it was in Tigray during the Woyanus quest for independence, Eritreans stand for one Ethiopia and will stand along Ethiopia if the Ogaden region do the same as SL. Ethiopians have a tendency to prioritize immediate goals, short-term benefits, and security, which can result in significant long-term shortcomings. As my brothers, the Eritrean government has refrained from commenting on the issue, and not all Eritreans are opposed to it. It is essential to keep these factors in mind while formulating any policies towards Ethiopia. Ethiopians need to understand we are not against Ethiopia's benefits if there is one and we are the only good friends to Ethiopia in the region during bad and good time. We keep all Ethiopia’s enemies at bay even they offer huge amounts of benefits to Eritrea. You can name one neighboring country that is not host Ethiopia enemies? Even you continue harming us, we are the only one stand by your side. This might change if you don’t correct the policy and tendencies towards us, the Eritreans.

I am just saying

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 17:27
by Fed_Up
You are sob cadre who serve your former masters, the Woyanus, and now Peepee. You are one worthless and hodam pig. Accusing Eritrea without proof.. fvcking paranoid!

DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 17:13
In that all full of blabbering what you don't even differentiate between is going after one's business and interference in the internal affairs of others.

Ethiopia is doing her business, your despot is burning outside in from the envy deep in himself.

Did we see him recently literally begging the President of Russia to come and save his vegetating behind from the ultimate demise? Which neighboring country didn't have a quarrel with your banana republic?

It was only after Ethiopia whipped him from behind around the turn of the century that he finally started to behalf humanly and leave his neighbors in peace.

He never quarrels with anybody around for the last over 23 years or so. If he forgets all that and start to behave differently again, then the whip is still around.

Ethiopia can be in a bad shape, but to be reminded about that by an Eritrean is out of this universe.

euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:55
DDT, the PeePee cadre

Your low IQ leader has no sound policy on either domestic or foreign; look where the country is today; war in all four corners of the country, foreign enemies in all directions as well. The country you PeePee are learning today is on fire. Now, who in the right head would be jealous of this country, a hell on earth?

Eritrea’s principal is always based on fairness to others. Like your daddy Weyane, Eritrea refused to be used as tool for your western powers when it was asked to help invading Somalia in 1994. You goons were more than happy to b used as a slave for their mission, a mission that blown up on the face of Ethiopia. You earned hate by Somalis, a hate that well deserved. Your low IQ leader who grew up drinking Weyane’s breastmilk is repeating what his Weyane daddy had done. Our leadership isn’t like your who would bend over for a few tones of USAIDE, the reason why Eritrea stayed neutral on Somalia’s affair is it is because it believes the issue is all Somalians matter that’s need to be resolved without any foreign country’s involvement.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:37
euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:24
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.
By the same token, Eritrean mafias "opposition" against Somaliland's independence has nothing with a principled stand of upright walking humans, it is purely out of jealousy those mafias espouse for Ethiopia, all their life long.

Like the saying goes "the fish rots down from the head" that attitude towards Ethiopia emanates from the Despot himself at the top.

When the despot will be sent to his ultimate place in the Hell, the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea will going to build their homes for harmony and shared destiny together.

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 17:37
by euroland
The PeePee baboon
For one who is reading your nonsense about your PeePee led Ethiopia , they would have thought you were talking about Singapore or Switzerland. You are burning your little head in the sand, ignoring the fact in the ground. Your PeePee was on its last leg in 2018, 2020 and 2022, but Eritrea saved your coward behind three times; as your daddy Weyane, you are thankless scubbag what Shaebia did for you. No surprise there, knowing you were raised by TPLF.

The PeePee gone, tell me what war have you won against Eritrea? Despite your entire Western masters’ technological, spy and military advices back in 1998 war, the only achievement you made was gaining a few ground that was left by Shaebia for a second line defense. You were desperate for “victory” your daddy Weyane able to have your low IQ dance on the steeet claiming victory over the Shaebia :lol:

Now, what neighbour country have your ጨቅላው hasn’t provoked in the last only 5 years of existence? How many internal war is also fighting within the country? Never in the country’s has seen such distinction, famine and misery. But goons like you are of course here telling the world, “everything is going well” 😂


euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:55
DDT, the PeePee cadre

Your low IQ leader has no sound policy on either domestic or foreign; look where the country is today; war in all four corners of the country, foreign enemies in all directions as well. The country you PeePee are learning today is on fire. Now, who in the right head would be jealous of this country, a hell on earth?

Eritrea’s principal is always based on fairness to others. Like your daddy Weyane, Eritrea refused to be used as tool for your western powers when it was asked to help invading Somalia in 1994. You goons were more than happy to b used as a slave for their mission, a mission that blown up on the face of Ethiopia. You earned hate by Somalis, a hate that well deserved. Your low IQ leader who grew up drinking Weyane’s breastmilk is repeating what his Weyane daddy had done. Our leadership isn’t like your who would bend over for a few tones of USAIDE, the reason why Eritrea stayed neutral on Somalia’s affair is it is because it believes the issue is all Somalians matter that’s need to be resolved without any foreign country’s involvement.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 16:37
euroland wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:24
First, a few Eritreans here don’t represent the policy of the government. No one knows what the Eritrean policy is on this issue. Furthermore, we know some Ethiopians support for Somaliland independence is not because Ethiopians believe the Somalilanders’ cause for independence , rather, Ethiopians support for their independence has to do a wicked plan, that is, to see a divided and weaken Somalia that is not going to be threat to Ethiopia. We know, there is a huge explosion issue still buried on Ogaden issue that is yet to explode.
By the same token, Eritrean mafias "opposition" against Somaliland's independence has nothing with a principled stand of upright walking humans, it is purely out of jealousy those mafias espouse for Ethiopia, all their life long.

Like the saying goes "the fish rots down from the head" that attitude towards Ethiopia emanates from the Despot himself at the top.

When the despot will be sent to his ultimate place in the Hell, the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea will going to build their homes for harmony and shared destiny together.

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 20:32
by Abere
ተስፋቢስ idiot just watch who it polls on the dashboard.

Somaliland issue has been around long before the current Orommuma chaos. It is there to stay as a country and will have to deal with it at some point. When you try to do activism, at the same time do not lie today for you will be embarrassed in the future by your own words. Abiy Ahmed and Orommuma will go away, but we do not have to short sell the future of Ethiopia. Ethiopia will exist independent of what is going on in the HoA. Ethiopia is a heavy weight country regardless of of the situation in Ethiopia. It is an objective reality that exists independent of Orommuma's wishful dream.
It is true Abiy Ahmed is trying this as an escaping valve but let us not forget also it is the reality that Ethiopia will have to deal with at some point in time. Asking why this is happening is legitimate, but ignoring the total existence of it is opportunism. I cannot support Egypt and let her spoil Muslim brotherhood self in my country. The most disgusting thing that a political prostitute do is selling his country to a historical a adversary.
By the way, respect Guraghes. If you cannot respect Guraghe, how good a citizen you could be. If you cannot live on your sweat, that means you are appreciating violence and hooliganism. These undesirable behaviors are taboo in Guraghe culture. I do not know what tribe you belong to in your thinking - but you could be a product of at least ten tribes in reality.



TesfaNews wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 15:38
Gurage listro abere aka Horus

Somaliland independence benefits oromunna not your tribe. There is no Ethiopia you are talking about the same PP that is droning your region wants prosperity in Oromia

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 07 Jan 2024, 22:28
by Fiyameta
Ethiopia's support to Somaliland's quest for independence does not give the breakaway Somali Kilil its independence. To think otherwise is, self-delusion, which is never in short supply among Ethiopian elite known for their "ሊበሏት ያሰቧትን አሞራ ጅግራ ናት ይሏታል" mindset. :P

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 08 Jan 2024, 08:13
by DefendTheTruth
Fiyameta wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 22:28
Ethiopia's support to Somaliland's quest for independence does not give the breakaway Somali Kilil its independence. To think otherwise is, self-delusion, which is never in short supply among Ethiopian elite known for their "ሊበሏት ያሰቧትን አሞራ ጅግራ ናት ይሏታል" mindset. :P
Well,
may we ask how Kosovo could be considered independent and yet Somaliland shouldn't be, in your not "self-delusion"?

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 08 Jan 2024, 10:13
by Fiyameta
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Jan 2024, 08:13
Fiyameta wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 22:28
Ethiopia's support to Somaliland's quest for independence does not give the breakaway Somali Kilil its independence. To think otherwise is, self-delusion, which is never in short supply among Ethiopian elite known for their "ሊበሏት ያሰቧትን አሞራ ጅግራ ናት ይሏታል" mindset. :P
Well,
may we ask how Kosovo could be considered independent and yet Somaliland shouldn't be, in your not "self-delusion"?
Your European donors made the decision to dissolve Yugoslavia using its readily-available ethnic federalism system as a noose to strangle the country to death. And as a result of the Balkanization, Kosovo became a landlocked orphan and the Europeans placed her under UN stewardship for lack of other options. If I remember correctly, both Ethiopia and Tigray refused to recognize Kosovo when the country declared its independence in 2008. You better recognize! :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 08 Jan 2024, 20:13
by sarcasm
I voted e) Other (Specify): Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence because they are human rights activists and they believe in respecting the right of people to self-determination, including the right to succession. (Remember Article 39? :lol:)

Eritreans opposed it because their default position is opposing Ethiopia - whenever, wherever and whatever

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 08 Jan 2024, 20:22
by Zack
Ethiopia doesnt support the independnece of Somaliland because of good will or because they love the aspirations of Somaliland and the Somalilanders. but because it wants to dismember Somalia and it wants to weaken the Somalis. Because Somali republic is the only nation to really confront Ethiopia for the leader in the Horn of Africa this is what they hate. Now that Sudan is on the brink of Civil war they want to Bury Somalia but they cant. Somalia has become much and much stronger the past few years indeed. And Ethiopia cant dismember Somalia. the Pillar of Somali unity is stronger then ever.apart from a few Somaliland hardliners the rest of the Somali people support to keep Ethiopia out of Somalia. Even influantal Somaliland leaders and politicians are against this




Dr Zackovich

Re: Why do on this forum Ethiopians support Somaliland's dream of Independence, but not some Eritreans?

Posted: 09 Jan 2024, 10:53
by Abere
So far, the survey result appears c, b, and e as the plausible reasons. However, wondering what that unspecified reason ( under choice "e") could be. It would be helpful if those of you chose "e" to specify that.


b) Because of suspicion Ethiopia's having naval base regarded as a threat to Eritrea, but in principle support Somaliland's independence ( 27%)
c) Because Somalia did great favor to Eritrea during the gruella warfare such as giving Somalian passport and citizenship. (32%)

e) Other (Specify):____________ (23%)