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We Need Revolution by All Citzens and Nations in 2024 to get Rid of the Fascists as we Did Against the Feudals in 1974!

Post by OPFist » 25 Nov 2023, 15:51

We Need Revolution by All Citzens and Nations in 2024 to get Rid of the Fascists as we Did Against the Feudals in 1974!

We got rid of successive feudal regimes through all inclusive revolution by all citizens and nations in the year 1974. Since then, we entertained three fascist regimes, who tried to trade by favouring one nation at the cost of the others. Derg favoured Amara elites, Woyane previlaged Tegaru elites and Biltsigina is promoting Oromo elites, but neither of them benefited the respective nations, behind whom they tried to hide. Interestingly, Amara elites didn’t feel the pain of Tegarus and Oromos during Derg rule, Tegaru elites were blind regarding Amara and Oromo suffering under Woyane and of course some Oromo elites don’t care about the misery of Amara and Tegaru caused by Biltsigina. It is now enough, all nations in Ethiopia need to learn from this devide and destroy mechanism of the three fascist regimes. We should revolte against the fascists in unison. The opposition bloc of Amara has to be free from Derg mentality, that of Tegaru from Woyane mindset and the camp of Oromo from Biltsigina way of thinking. We need to have common denominator of fighting for freedom and democracy in order to foster common home, in which we will live with liberty, equality and fraternity..
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Post by OPFist » 25 Nov 2023, 16:39

Specially, Amara and Oromo elites repeatedly fall in the trap of the dictatorial regimes in Ethiopia. All the hitherto regimes survived and thrived by dividing and polarizing these two blocs of elites. Currently, Amara elites did three major mistakes to fall into the trap: they framed their struggle as anti-Oromumma (literally against Oromo identity), called the Oromo with the derogatory G-word and used their obsolete narration of being civilizer of other nations including the Oromo. Now, Biltsigina party of Dr. Abiy is using this opportunity for the same mechanism of devide and rule. Why is it as such easy for Biltsiginna to rule over Ethiopians?

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Post by OPFist » 25 Nov 2023, 16:59

It is just because of these misguided elites of the two big nations – Amara and Oromo. They are still fighting over past history, present ideology and potential destiny. Biltsiginna managed to corner these elites and persuaded them to struggle for unconditional domination of Amaranet vs leadership of Oromumma respectively. With this move, Biltsiginna could reserve the middle ground, i.e union of autonomous nations (colourful rainbow country) as its own position, so that it can accuse Amhara elites as chauvinits and Oromo elites as narrowists and manipulate them to fight each other. I did appreciate a position of the visionary leaders from both big nations, who signed the formation of an alliance called AFD in 2006 and took a necessary step to tacle Woyane’s tactic of devide and rule at that time, which gradually led to formation of Oromara movement to bring regime change in 2018. Can we now forge AFD-2 in order to deal with Biltsiginna’s divide and destroy machination.

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Post by Union » 25 Nov 2023, 17:04

You need Revolution by all Ethiopians now? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Because Fano is coming right? :lol: but Ethiopians are in LOVE with Fano already! :lol:



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Post by OPFist » 25 Nov 2023, 18:07

It was quotted by somebody that Meles Zenawi had said: “Amara – Oromo conflict, (historical face-off between them) is a unique historical advantage for TPLF to perpetuate its rule”. He also said regarding the dialogue between Amara forces and Oromo fronts within AFD, “that it is a marriage between fire and straw (isat ina chid)”. It is really pity that these two big nations live in a conflict against each other, which was caused by the hitherto ruling class & their sponsors – European colonizers. The effect is that the fate of both nations seemed to be a subjugation by successiv ruling classes of monarchs and dictators.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 01:53

Disregarding the hitherto Habesha ruling class, actually both Amara and Oromo peoples were victims of European colonizers. The main conflict and imbalance of power between Amara and Oromo started at the end of 19th century at which time Europeans had their programm of scramble for Africa. It is said that French colonizers used to move horizontally between Dakar and Djibouti, whereas British colonizers’ move was vertical between Cape town and Cairo. These two forces were about to confront each other in the Horn of Africa. To avoid the confrontation, British colonizers had to do their usual manipulation in Africa: choosing one ethnic group as “superior”, and using it to suppress others which they consider as “inferiors”. They told Amara rulers that they are “superior semitics” and christians who had to “civilize” “inferior animist” Oromo and others in the south. They gave them weapons and helped them by giving military advice. So they controlled indirectly the area without confronting French army. With such manipulation, both Amara and Oromo became victims, since then both were not free. Amara rulers being ex-servants of the British (as suppressors of the Oromo), both Amhara as a people and Oromo as the suppressed subjects were lacking freedom.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 02:46

Then, Tigrean ruling class played similar role as servant of American imperialists again to suppress the Oromo and of course the Amara were also oppressed. Theoretically, there is nothing which can hinder alliance of Amhara pro-democracy forces and Oromo pro-freedom fronts to come together and fight for their freedom and democracy as they attempted in AFD, but still there are practical problems. Both need yet to stop their striving for mere “unconditional integration” and mere “unconditional independence” respectively. Amara forces pushing for unconditional integration makes Oromo freedom fighters only to be sceptical for they know what the unity forces want to achieve with this pretext. At the same time an attempt of some Oromo freedom fighters to forge independence without giving any possibility for a union and without giving value for the benefit of union between neighbouring nations push Amara forces to panic because they think that they will be driven out of Oromia. Such move of certain part of Oromo fronts seems to be as counter-productive as the vehement wish of Amara forces for unconditional integration.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 04:55

Beside that, TPLF manipulated this “difference” between the two big nations to creat more discord and make them fight each other. Now, Biltsiginna is doing the same. In order to neutralize such action of TPLF, very important for the two nations was to concentrate on common agenda: freedom and democracy. Both of them came to their sense and rallied behind these two ideals, so that the other two virtues they wanted to realize, i.e free Oromia within Ethiopian union can now be fullfilled indirectly. Is this impossible? It is possible if all nations in the empire will be free from tyranny, killing, and looting like what was happening under TPLF. So our main problem was the lording, killing and looting that all the nations in the empire did suffer under the Woyane. Victims from the two big nations needed to wake up and say together: NO to the fascist Woyane! It is now necessary to take similar step against the currently ruling dictatorial Biltsiginna.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 05:11

To achieve durable alliance of the two forces against Biltsiginna, the two big nations need to forge one common ground as a common goal. I recommend as a common goal: union of free peoples, i.e free Oromia and free Amaraland within Ethiopian union as a result of self-determination of each nation. Till now, it was very difficult to get a common purpose on which Oromo pro-freedom fronts and Amara forces could agree. Oromo fighters argued that the Oromo must be free from colonization by any meanse and then build union based on free will. Very few smart part of Amara forces argued that Habesha are the Abyssinized Oromo and Agaw, who are speaking Amarinya and Tigrinya, so the Oromo don’t have to separate from their own people, but they should bring the Habeshanized Cushites back to their lost origin and the Oromo should have an appropriate leading role in politics of the country.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 05:43

Further more, most of Amara pro-democracy forces do fear disintegration of the empire they think to build. So they seem to do every thing possible so that Oromo freedom fighters never have an upper hand in the empire’s politics for they fear that these fronts may opt for independence of Oromia. On the contrary, Oromo freedom fighters do all things possible to hinder the come back of Amara forces to power, for they know what these forces are going to do – Amarinization of whole nations in the empire. The two big nations simply sabotage each other’s succeess. As an example we can look at the political moves during and after election 2005. As CUD which was dominated by Amara forces was almost on the verge of coming to power, all Oromo freedom fighters didn’t give support. As OLF was in its highest point of influence and forged AFD to be an alternative for power in Finfinne, Amara forces were those, who vehemently opposed the alliance.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 05:57

This mistrust between Amara forces and Oromo fronts is a God-given opportunity which Biltsiginna uses to rule over the country. Till these two groups come to terms and cooperated against Biltsiginna, all nations in the empire have to settle for rule of the dictators not only for few years, but for many decades. I think union of free peoples based on the right of nations to self-determination is a middle ground and can be used as a common purpose on which the two giant nations of the region can further agree. Union of free Amara, Tigrai, Afar, Oromo, Ogaden, Sidama, Gurage…..etc as a result of their respective self-determination and even the union including Eritrea, Djibouti, Somaliland, Puntland and Somalia (if they agree) is a noble cause for which all can fight together. Not accepting this model means unconditional separation of these independent nations as an alternative.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 06:21

The question yet to be asked is: do Amara forces choose to settle for this last alternative or should they be compelled to accept such fact? I knew the TPLFites accept such alternative of separation as soon as they sensed that they lose power in Finfinne palace. To compell Amara forces accept such union based on national self-determination, we just have to demote Amarinya to be used in only Amara region and promote Afaan Oromo to federal working language. Then, Amara elites will see that Ethiopianness will not be equivalent to Amaranet (as it is now), but Ethiopiawinet will be the same to Oromummaa. In such a scenario of Oromummaa being equivalent to Ethiopianness, Oromo freedom fighters will definetly start to be pro Ethiopianity against “ethnicity” and Amara forces will begin to defend their identity by opting for self-determination of Amara people, so they will start to support “ethnicity” and reject Ethiopianity = Oromummaa. This way, they can comprehend what it means to struggle for national independence with or without regional union.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 06:59

Till now, certain steps have been taken by the OLF to forge common ground with Amara forces and to kill TPLF in Ethiopian political history. The short sighted TPLF, who was good at winning battles, but could never win the war, thought that it was possible to destroy the OLF by persecuting and massacring its supporters. But these actions of TPLF gave the OLF even more Oromo support, which it actually didn’t have till 1991. Further more, interesting is that the OLF killed not supporters of TPLF, but it took away the existence of TPLF in Ethiopia in a long run. OLF did this by taking two very important steps. In 1992, OLF denied TPLF the legitimacy it needed in Oromia. With that, TPLF became eternal enemy of the Oromo. TPLF could have made the OLF its partner and would have enjoyed support of all Oromo, but it formed OPDO and made itself alien to the Oromo people. In 2006, the OLF formed AFD together with Amara parties like CUD and with that it took away the very important instrument TPLF used to rule over Ethiopians: designating Amara forces as centeralists and Oromo freedom fighters as separatists; so these two groups fight each other instead of struggling together against TPLF. Slowly, this instrument died and TPLF was under attack from both the Amara and Oromo. The same thing must happen now against Biltsiginna. Surely, take it only 1 year or as long as 10 years, Biltsiginna will die away like Isepa of Derg and EPRDF of Woyane. After losing power, Biltsiginna will be remembered in Ethiopia as bad a regime as Naizi is now remembered in Germany. The coming generation will distance itself from Biltsiginna and will be ashamed of its history just like the new generation of Germany is doing now regarding their forefather’s deed.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 07:17

Actually, I do appreciate the effort of Amara forces, who are trying to foster democratic unity of the country. It is not bad to advocate such unity. As I understood from their hitherto writings, they do use both religious and political methods to promote and keep the unity. This is actually very dangerous combination, specially when used by one and the same individual. I advise them as individuals to leave one method and persue the other. The problem is that as a politician, one can persue interest of the group he/she does support, e.g interest of Amara forces to keep the empire intact against interest of Oromo freedom fighters to dismantle the empire and build union. As a religous person, one is morally obliged to think inclusive, trying to satisfy both Amara forces and Oromo fronts, which will bring him/her in to difficult position. Otherwise in order to know what type of unity the Amara do advocate, they need to see difference between an empire and a union. Amara forces use the euphemy, unity, to mean keeping the empire intact. Just to put the difference in short, empire is “unity per force” and union is “unity based on free will”. If Amara forces are believers of this second premise, then they also do risk that “free will” of peoples to be expressed in referendum can lead to independence of nations without union instead of only to the unconditional unity which they want to achieve.

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Post by Union » 26 Nov 2023, 07:24

You Arab idiot

I did not read your usual nonsense crap. And never did :lol:

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 07:26

Other wise, it is good to see that there is also difference between unity and union. The first is pre-modern, whereas the second is post-modern. In summary here is the difference between pre-modern unity and post-modern union. I don’t remember his name, but certain English scholar classified countries in the world in to three: 1- pre-modern chaotic states like artificial constructs/countries in Africa, such as Abyssinian empire, which Amara forces seem to love, 2- modern nation-states like some mono-national-states in Asia and Latine America and 3- post-modern union of free nations like those in European union. So, Amhara forces should see that African nations, including those in Ethiopia, are kept as pre-modern due to the arrangement made by European colonizers and this is still being perpetuated further by AU dictators, who are dedicated not to change it. But Africans need to leave artificial nations like Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Nigeria, Djibouti, Somaliland, Somalia and Kenya behind and forge productive natural nation-states like Tigrai, Amara, Afar, Oromia, Hausa, Yoruba, Somalia…etc in order to be transformed from our present position (pre-modern), passing through the stage of modern status like an independent Oromia without union further to post-modern situation like free Oromia within union of free peoples, the most beneficial status which Europeans them selves are enjoying now.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 08:14

I hope Amara forces do not misunderstand my position here. I am not representative of the OLF as some accuse me often, but I am simple private person who tries to think independently. There can be certain views of mine which may be the same to that of OLF, but not always. Supporting OLF unconditionally and helping it to be on power is not my goal. My goal is self-determination of the Oromo which can lead to an independent Oromia within union of free peoples or to an independence of all nations without union. I know few Amhara forces do accept the first option, but many of them do reject the second goal. They do want larger unitary Ethiopia than the “inferior mini states” such as Amara state and Oromia state. I am also for the larger union based on free will of the Oromo, which can be result of referendum. But I don’t agree with idea of some Amara forces, who do advocate for unconditional unity, which is dictatorial. To forge the common goal, i.e democratic union based on self-determination, we need alliance of all Amara forces and Oromo fronts against Biltsiginna. I hope this is also the status, which some Amhara forces want to achieve. This form of alliance between Amara forces and Oromo fronts is a means to get rid of the dictator and the alliance can struggle for union of free peoples in the region as an END.

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 08:20

Some Amara forces even, at least theoretically, do believe that destiny of Oromo people should be decided by only Oromo people who live in Oromia and “who are also Ethiopians”. If they really believe in what they some times write, that means they are ready to leave the decision on Oromo destiny for the Oromo. Then the question to be asked is: what will happen if the very Oromo they do mention as part of Ethiopians do decide against unity which they want, but opt to build an independent Oromia without union? Do Amara forces accept it and move on or do they fight against it? Further more, they should be clear on the type of unity they want to forge. Union based on free will or unity by force? Those who do advocate unity by force have their own arguements. Specially it is interesting to read that some of them are trying to instrumentalize the present American politics in order to push for success of their own type of unity, which is again an euphemy for keeping the empire. They do say just as American union was saved by force, we will struggle to save Ethiopian union. Can’t their “intellectual” mind grasp the difference between the two “unions”? America is the land of immigrants being melted together to take American identity speaking only English. Do they want all the native “Ethiopian” nationalities be melted to take such uniformity and speak only Amarinya?

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 09:39

As far as I know, even the most liberal movements like Ezema advocates unconditional integration, which is not goal of Oromo fronts and not the wish of other oppressed people, who do fight for self-determination. I am not against union based on free will of all nations, but I am against forced unity of any kind, which disregards free will of nations like the Oromo. If Ezema wants alliance of purpose with Oromo fronts like the OLF, I just suggest that it accepts union based on self-determination of nations as common denominator, instead of talking about unconditional unity. I also read that Ezema was calling for an alliance of all Amara forces and Oromo fronts as means to get rid of Biltsiginna. I do accept this attempt, but my concern and the question I would like to ask is: alliance of whom against Biltsiginna?

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Post by OPFist » 26 Nov 2023, 09:57

As I understood till now, Ethiopian politics is kept in balance due to fighting between the following three blocs: 1- bloc of the Biltsiginna domination force; 2- bloc of the so called “unity forces”, who do fight to keep the empire intact; this bloc does use different tactics in the name of democracy, but its message is simple and clear: save the empire from disintegration; 3- bloc of freedom fighters of all oppressed nations in the empire, who do first want to be liberated from the system of domination before trying to talk about unity. For this group, union must be only the result of self-determination of all nations in the empire. When Amhara forces do talk about alliance against Biltsiginna, do they mean alliance of only political and civic organizations in the second bloc? Or do they also want to include those in the third block? As I understood from the rhetoric of AG7 leaders till now, they already put precondition for alliance to be forged against the first bloc: i.e accepting Ethiopian unity unconditionally! With this precondition, they seem to exclude those in the third bloc such as the OLF, ONLF, SLF…etc, who want to achieve self-determination for their respective nations. In order to include the third bloc in to alliance they want to forge against Biltsiginna, the Ezema people need to change this precondition and should try to find common denominator with the third bloc.

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