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What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Poll ended at 24 Nov 2023, 18:13

Abiy will run to his Dubai mansion
41
51%
Abiy will declare independence for oromia and move his oromo army (ENDF) to protect oromia from fano
3
4%
Abiy will surrender or capture dead or alive
26
32%
Tigreay and Somali killils will declare independence
9
11%
Other, explain on what you think will happen?
2
2%
 
Total votes: 81

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(Final VOTES are in, check out the results…Thanks for voting) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Jaegol » 21 Nov 2023, 18:13

Fano will reach Addis, the facts on the ground show it’s just a matter of time… drones don’t win wars in such terrain like the current war theater
Addis is the new contested city like Jerusalem
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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Misraq » 22 Nov 2023, 00:50

Abiy will be killed by Oromo when he tries to escape

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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Horus » 22 Nov 2023, 01:10

Very soon may be within 3 months, US, EU, UN & other will begin a multi-party negotiation - mainly Fano, OLF, TDF, & PP for some sort of interim arrangement. The existing total shut down on Abiy the West implies a possible pressure on Abiy &co.Abiy's carpet bombing of Amara is a hist of his expectation of that kind of pressure for a comprehensive settlement .


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by sarcasm » 22 Nov 2023, 09:55

I don't think Fano will ever controll Addis. At the moment, Fano has zero chance of entering Addis. Let's say, for argument sake, Fano increased its probability to over 50% in the next many months or years. What do you think the 250k strong TDF would do? Do you think TDF would say የሚፈልጉት ስርዓት በነሱ term እና በነሱ condition ይመስርቱ? Do you think OLF would allow them enter Oromia? Remember the Americans moved their army in Djibouti to threaten TDF when the reached Shoa. What would they think?


"እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!" የአማራ ሕዝባዊ ግንባር

ፋኖ ሊመሰርተው የሚፈልገው ስርዓት - 80 ብሔርና ብሔረሰቦች You Don't Matter እየተባላቹ ነው


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2023, 10:13

I think this pretty clear - it is a no brainer. Certainly, Fano will take over Addis Ababa. Here is what will happen next

#1. Without doubt Abiy Ahmed most likely will flee or captured alive. He is coward he will not face death, unlike Fano Eshete Moges of Shewa who gave his middle finger to death itself, after mowing down tens of rag tag Tigre woyanes

#2. Fano will suspend the TPLF/OLF constitution and dissolve rag tag PP-OLF parliament

#3. Fano will release all political prisoners; but arrest all those criminals involved genocide, displacement, public asset embezzlers.

#4. Fano will arrange national political forum to establish care taker transitional government. All ethnic based parties and all old parties will be banned or outlawed. The transitional leadership is based on pure Ethiopian citizenship, integrity, honesty, skill and public acceptance. Politics will never be an employment and income source for vagabonds

5#. Among others, Tigray and Oromo people will be cured from the fata virus of tribal region and the will return to normal just like the pre-TPLF era.

6#. Without doubt, it will be never again tribal federation, never again hate. This will be a new chapter where love, reconciliation, and patriotism sparks after over 40 years.

7#. That is Tigres or Oromos tricked by TPLF/OLF will never hiccups about this about that - they will go to their normal daily life of farming, trading, etc. However, thousands of TPLF and PP-OLF online trolls will be jobless. So, they have to learn new trades or skills so as to feed themselves.

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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by sarcasm » 22 Nov 2023, 10:30

Abere wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 10:13

#4. Fano will arrange national political forum to establish care taker transitional government. All ethnic based parties and all old parties will be banned or outlawed.
So, they will ban almost all political parties in Ethiopia as they are all ethnic based / regional?! The above Fano's plan shows they are intent on "እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!". To think the other 80+ nations and nationalities will just passively stand by is naive at best.
sarcasm wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 09:55

"እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!" የአማራ ሕዝባዊ ግንባር

ፋኖ ሊመሰርተው የሚፈልገው ስርዓት - 80 ብሔርና ብሔረሰቦች You Don't Matter እየተባላቹ ነው


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2023, 10:48


የጎሳ ወይም የዘር ፓርቲ ለመንግስታዊነት አደረጃጄት እና አስተዳደር ሳይሆን ምናልባት ለመረዳጃ ዕድር ወይም አካባቢ ልማት ሊውል ይችላል። ሙሉ በሙሉ መሰረዝ እና መታገድ አለበት። ለምሳሌ የዐድዋ ፓለቲካ ፓርቲ ወይም የኦሮሞ ነጻነት ፓርቲ ከማለት የአድዋ ወይም የኦሮሞ ልማት መረዳጃ ማህበር ማለት እጅግ ይጠቅማል። ዐድዋ ወይም ኦሮሞ ሀሳብ ወይም ርዕዮተ-አለም አይደለም።

ታዲያ ፋኖ የሚዋጋው ወያኔ እና ኦነግን መልሶ ስልጣን ላይ ሊያወጣ ይመስልሃል? ለምሳሌ ያህል በታሪክ የጉራጌ ልማት መረዳጃ ማህበር ከፍተኛ የመንገድ እና ሌሎች ልማት እንደፈጸመ ይታወቃል። ጉራጌዎች በጋራ ሃብት በጋራ ጉልበት እና ፍላጎት ድንቅ የልማት ጀብድ ፈጽመዋል። ይህን ሲያደርጉ በሌሎች ኢትዮጵያ ላይ ጎጅ ተጽኖ እንደ ትግሬ ወያኔ አልፈጸሙም - መንግስታዊ ልማት በእራሳቸው አገዙ እንጅ።
sarcasm wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 10:30


#4. Fano will arrange national political forum to establish care taker transitional government. All ethnic based parties and all old parties will be banned or outlawed.
So, they will ban almost all political parties in Ethiopia as they are all ethnic based / regional?! The above Fano's plan shows they are intent on "እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!". To think the other 80+ nations and nationalities will just passively stand by is naive at best.


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Fed_Up » 22 Nov 2023, 12:54

The agameW “Sarcasm” is nervous since his fear is coming to reality. You idiots are checkmated! 8) 8)

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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 22 Nov 2023, 16:02

What some people need to understand is that Ethiopia of today is not Ethiopia of 1950-60s, Oromos are never going to let Addis Ababa and Oromia fall into Amhara hands, Not in a million years, If for some reason chaos of war breaks out in Addis Ababa, Oromos will wipe Gurage people as whole and Amhara in Oromia off the face of the earth.


Somali State, which is the biggest state in war-torn Ethiopia, will immediately unilaterally declare its independence from Ethiopia and the United Nations and the Western world will recognize independent Somali state in a heartbeat, Tigray is too small and too poor to declare independence, Anyway, Eritreans should focus on their country hand to mouth economy instead of undermining Ethiopia's peace and stability.


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2023, 17:56

MekelleLady,

አሁን ምን እየሆነ ይመስልሻል? :lol: :lol: የጎሳ ክልል ወደ ቆሻሻ ገንዳ እየተጣለ እኮ ነው። :lol: :lol:

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 16:02
What some people need to understand is that Ethiopia of today is not Ethiopia of 1950-60s, Oromos are never going to let Addis Ababa and Oromia fall into Amhara hands, Not in a million years, If for some reason chaos of war breaks out in Addis Ababa, Oromos will wipe Gurage people as whole and Amhara in Oromia off the face of the earth.


Somali State, which is the biggest state in war-torn Ethiopia, will immediately unilaterally declare its independence from Ethiopia and the United Nations and the Western world will recognize independent Somali state in a heartbeat :lol: :lol: :lol:
But, They will recognize Somali land as new country. I can assure this will happen. :mrgreen:

, Tigray is too small and too poor to declare independence, Anyway, Eritreans should focus on their country hand to mouth economy instead of undermining Ethiopia's peace and stability.


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Educator » 22 Nov 2023, 23:25

sarcasm,
Fano can enter and control Addis in due time. It has to work on its internal chemistry first. Once they are politically organized, then the people of Addis Ababa do all the heavy lifting of restoring peace in the city. TPLF is not going to do anything to sabotage or stop the marching Fano.

What TPLF is doing right now is pressure Mamo Killo to start the invasion of Eritrea as fast as possible. Because they believe once the war against Eritrea started, they know they are capable of toppling Shabia and run over anything and anyone Eritrean and avenge for the suffering of Tigray in the hands of Isu. They probably believe they will own the whole Eritrea which I think is a possible outcome of the next war against Shabia.
Oh, the other thing is that Tigray has become a sovereign state within a state. Unless it is for the budget they receive from the Federal government, there is absolutely nothing linking Tigray with the rest of the country. The constitution or rule of law or any policy of the Federal government is not acknowledged or implemented in Tigray. Woyane does whatever it wants without any oversight from anybody. That is the textbook definition of a sovereign country.
sarcasm wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 09:55
I don't think Fano will ever controll Addis. At the moment, Fano has zero chance of entering Addis. Let's say, for argument sake, Fano increased its probability to over 50% in the next many months or years. What do you think the 250k strong TDF would do? Do you think TDF would say የሚፈልጉት ስርዓት በነሱ term እና በነሱ condition ይመስርቱ? Do you think OLF would allow them enter Oromia? Remember the Americans moved their army in Djibouti to threaten TDF when the reached Shoa. What would they think?


"እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!" የአማራ ሕዝባዊ ግንባር

ፋኖ ሊመሰርተው የሚፈልገው ስርዓት - 80 ብሔርና ብሔረሰቦች You Don't Matter እየተባላቹ ነው


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 23 Nov 2023, 00:33

Capturing finfinne/Addis is one thing, but capturing oromia and the rest of Ethiopia is an entirely different thing. Fano, like other armies and movements, has its strengths and weaknesses.
Their strengths in their popular support among Amaras, and bravery, numerical strength, etc, .. but their weakness is lack of support and alliances throughout the country. They're an Amara based movement. Not a Pan Ethiopian one, regardless of what their supporters say online. Until it reaches out to, and forms alliances with Oromos, and other Ethiopians, it will remain an Amara only movement.


For one, Oromia would never be governed by them. The same way Amara kill is ungovernable for "Oromumma Opdo" (which is fair) is the same way that Oromia would be ungovernable for "Amaraumma Fano, (which is also fair)."
Disagreements isn't just between the political parties, the common folk disagree too. As in, we believe in federalism, with the rights to administer themselves given to the various states, while the other side apparently wants to do away with that and bring back a system that primarily benefits Amaras, regardless of what other nations in Ethiopia desire.


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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Nov 2023, 13:10

Educator wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 23:25
sarcasm,
Fano can enter and control Addis in due time. It has to work on its internal chemistry first. Once they are politically organized, then the people of Addis Ababa do all the heavy lifting of restoring peace in the city. TPLF is not going to do anything to sabotage or stop the marching Fano.

What TPLF is doing right now is pressure Mamo Killo to start the invasion of Eritrea as fast as possible. Because they believe once the war against Eritrea started, they know they are capable of toppling Shabia and run over anything and anyone Eritrean and avenge for the suffering of Tigray in the hands of Isu. They probably believe they will own the whole Eritrea which I think is a possible outcome of the next war against Shabia.
Oh, the other thing is that Tigray has become a sovereign state within a state. Unless it is for the budget they receive from the Federal government, there is absolutely nothing linking Tigray with the rest of the country. The constitution or rule of law or any policy of the Federal government is not acknowledged or implemented in Tigray. Woyane does whatever it wants without any oversight from anybody. That is the textbook definition of a sovereign country.
sarcasm wrote:
22 Nov 2023, 09:55
I don't think Fano will ever controll Addis. At the moment, Fano has zero chance of entering Addis. Let's say, for argument sake, Fano increased its probability to over 50% in the next many months or years. What do you think the 250k strong TDF would do? Do you think TDF would say የሚፈልጉት ስርዓት በነሱ term እና በነሱ condition ይመስርቱ? Do you think OLF would allow them enter Oromia? Remember the Americans moved their army in Djibouti to threaten TDF when the reached Shoa. What would they think?


"እኛ የምንፈልገው ስርዓት በኛ term በኛ condition እንመሰርታለን!" የአማራ ሕዝባዊ ግንባር

ፋኖ ሊመሰርተው የሚፈልገው ስርዓት - 80 ብሔርና ብሔረሰቦች You Don't Matter እየተባላቹ ነው


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That is not a far-fetched, Educator, your approach is eliminating the root cause to eradicate the rest of the problems.

Isayas is the root cause and removing him will going to solve many problems we currently have in Ethiopia, automatically.

If TPLF really thinks this way, then I have to admit that they are more smart than I previously thought. If that happens I will never call the entity Dedebits (sort of stuck to their time in the bushes) anymore.

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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 23 Nov 2023, 13:34

You have some serious issues with Somalis, Amharas are being slaughtered in Oromiya, yet you are so fixated on Somalis, Somalis are not taking land from Amharas, they are taking their God given land, Let me repeat what I said earlier, Somali State, which is the biggest, the blessed and the beautiful state in war-torn Ethiopia, will without a doubt unilaterally declare its independence from miserable Ethiopia.


Extremists like you are making Amharas an enemy of Somalis.

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Re: (VOTE) What will happen when Addis falls to Fanos?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Nov 2023, 15:01

Sadacha Macca wrote:
23 Nov 2023, 00:33
Capturing finfinne/Addis is one thing, but capturing oromia and the rest of Ethiopia is an entirely different thing. Fano, like other armies and movements, has its strengths and weaknesses.
Their strengths in their popular support among Amaras, and bravery, numerical strength, etc, .. but their weakness is lack of support and alliances throughout the country. They're an Amara based movement. Not a Pan Ethiopian one, regardless of what their supporters say online. Until it reaches out to, and forms alliances with Oromos, and other Ethiopians, it will remain an Amara only movement.


For one, Oromia would never be governed by them. The same way Amara kill is ungovernable for "Oromumma Opdo" (which is fair) is the same way that Oromia would be ungovernable for "Amaraumma Fano, (which is also fair)."
Disagreements isn't just between the political parties, the common folk disagree too. As in, we believe in federalism, with the rights to administer themselves given to the various states, while the other side apparently wants to do away with that and bring back a system that primarily benefits Amaras, regardless of what other nations in Ethiopia desire.
ለዚህ ልጅ የሜድካል ምርመራ አድርጌለት፣ ኢሳያስ ፈሱን እንደለቀቀበት ለማጣራት ችያለዉ፣ ይሄም የሆነዉ ከአመታት በፊት ቢሆንም ልክፍቱ አሁንም አልለቀቀዉም፣ ለዚህ ነዉ ኢሱ ፈስ ብቻ ሳይሆን መርዝ ነዉ ያለዉ የምንለዉ። የቫይረሱ ስም ኢትዮጵያን ማፍረስ ይባላል።

ይህን ቫይረስ ኢሳያስ ከዬት እንደመጠዉ በዉል ባይታወቅም፣ ሰሞኑን እንደሰማነዉ ጭጭምታ ከሆነ ከወደ አረብ አገሮች ሳይሆን አይቀረም ብለን እናስባለን።

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