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ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 17:41
by DefendTheTruth
ዘረኝነት

Who are those narrow nationalists? What is the meaning of narrow nationalism or ዘረኝነት?

I heard today that Nebiyu (Prophet) Mohammed defined the word in very clear terms and condemned it, already before 1400 years, at least. He reportedly described the word by saying “if you judge based on your closeness or relativity” then you are a narrow nationalist, or a ዘረኛ.

This simply translates into if you are biased then you are also a ዘረኛ.

If there is an inherent bias in a given society, then that society is also destined to be a ዘረኛ.
Bias is when you consider yourself better qualified than the rest, you consider yourself to belong to a special or privileged class and the rest belongs to a degraded or less privileged class.

I also remember one of the guiding principles (central creed) of the Mecha Tulema Self-Help Association, perhaps the first modern pan-Oromo association, which clearly stated that “don’t commit something to others that you don’t want others to commit against you”, I think to have translated it as precisely as I can, it has been a while since I read the phrase.

Now the very important question is if Oromos are in fact more ዘረኛ than the Amharas? This is a very interesting question and the correct (objective) answer to this central question may dispel many of the current days and widespread propaganda foundation that is filling the airspaces of the nation and clear the atmosphere.

Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 03:44
by Tiago
What we have in Ethiopia is not ዘረኝነት it is ጎሰኛነት

የጥቁር ዘር በመሆኑ የሚጠላላ ወይም የሚገዳደል ኢትዮጵያዊ ያለ አመስለኝም

አማራ መሆን ያስገድላል ያሳስራል ያስታግታል OLF's version of Jim crow laws :lol: :lol:


The violent attacks,murder and displacement of the Amharas ( I doubt persons like you ever admit this truth) are as a result of victimhood rhetoric ጎሰኛ politicians spread among the largely poor and uneducated people .TPLF and OLF politics is based on demonizing the Amhara ጎሳ and made the uninformed,poor and gullible not to think if the people they call ነፍጠኛ ፅንፈኛ የድሮ ሥርአት ናፋቂ ቡዳ are the real cause of their poverty and suffering.
The result has been that the public square of ideas has been utterly poisoned and a comfortable lie became far more acceptable than decency.

Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 06:51
by DefendTheTruth
Why do you need to bit around the bush?

You can call it ዘረኝነት or ጎሰኛነት the inherent meaning is the same and it means bias.

The central question here is if the Amhara or the Oromo people are more bias in reality at the society (community) level?

Can you answer the simple question and corroborate your claim with simple but empirical evidences?

የድሮ ሥርአት ነፋቂነታቸዉን ትጠራጠራለህ እንዴ?

Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 13:54
by Tiago
“inherent” means characteristics that are natural, biological, or innate, as opposed to characteristics that are merely accidental, or based on external factors.

ዘረኝነት or ጎሰኛነት are learnt and based on unfounded fear of the 'other'.just like kkk and nazi politics ,TPLF and OLF poisoned the minds of oromos and tigrayes to the point amharas are seen as the Bogeymen.
prior to the introduction of ethnocentric politics of TPLF/OLF,all ethnic groups were coexisting in harmony
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Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 14:15
by Selam/
ካድሬው - ጥያቄህ ሲጀመር የተንሻፈፈ ነው። የኦሮሞ ህዝብ ወይንስ የአማራ ህዝብ ነው ዘረኛው ተብሎ አይጠየቅም። ዘረኛዎቹ የአንተ ብጤ ካድሬዎች፣ ፖለቲከኞች፣ ተማርን ባይ ከብቶች፣ ባለስልጣኖችና የዩቱብ ፍርፋሬ ለቃሚዎች እንጂ ህዝቡ በአምሳሉ የተፈጠረውን ወንድሙን አይጠላም። ስለዚህ ህዝብ ላይ ፊጥ ከማለትህ በፊት መጀመሪያ ጎጠኝነትን መስተዋትህ ውስጥ ፈልገው። ክፉ!
DefendTheTruth wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 17:41
ዘረኝነት

Who are those narrow nationalists? What is the meaning of narrow nationalism or ዘረኝነት?

I heard today that Nebiyu (Prophet) Mohammed defined the word in very clear terms and condemned it, already before 1400 years, at least. He reportedly described the word by saying “if you judge based on your closeness or relativity” then you are a narrow nationalist, or a ዘረኛ.

This simply translates into if you are biased then you are also a ዘረኛ.

If there is an inherent bias in a given society, then that society is also destined to be a ዘረኛ.
Bias is when you consider yourself better qualified than the rest, you consider yourself to belong to a special or privileged class and the rest belongs to a degraded or less privileged class.

I also remember one of the guiding principles (central creed) of the Mecha Tulema Self-Help Association, perhaps the first modern pan-Oromo association, which clearly stated that “don’t commit something to others that you don’t want others to commit against you”, I think to have translated it as precisely as I can, it has been a while since I read the phrase.

Now the very important question is if Oromos are in fact more ዘረኛ than the Amharas? This is a very interesting question and the correct (objective) answer to this central question may dispel many of the current days and widespread propaganda foundation that is filling the airspaces of the nation and clear the atmosphere.

Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 14:26
by DefendTheTruth
መልሱን መመለስ እንዲህ ከስፈራችዉ, which is a simple as A or B፣ መልሱ ግልፅ ነዉ ግን መናገር አትደፍሩም ማለት ነዉ።

መርጣችዉ ፈልጋችዉ ስለገባችዉበት፣ ይመቻችዉ!

Re: ዘረኝነት revisited

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 15:08
by Abere
First, in Ethiopia, there is only a single race - which is called Black. The concept of race and racial discrimination is in applicable in Ethiopia, because everyone belongs of the Black race. In fact, Sub-Saharan Africans are referred to as Black race.

However, in Ethiopia there are many tribes as there are many tribes in the rest of African countries such as Sudan. What is happening in Ethiopia is something imported from outside of the continent through the Trojan horse of OLF/TPLF. These are carriers who are paid by external agencies that gave them with the manual of destruction and disinformation. This is obvious how delusional Abiy Ahmed and those around him such as Lencho were.

What is prevalent in Ethiopia historically been harmful cultural practices in the midst of a lot of useful customs and tradition. Aong such harmful practices are female circumcision and head gear of pen.s which is posted on the forehead of Aba-geday. The latter specially, is genocidal custom practiced among the Aba-geda of some Oromo tribes. Such harmful practice involves deadly violence, destruction, mutilation, and death. Eradicating this kind of practice is helpful. In today’s Ethiopia those backward and savage forces wanted to spread across the country – this is what is causing havocs. The war between Amhara Fano and OLF-PP is a war waged between civilization and backwardness.